LFS Beginners Cup

[J@tko]

Some of you may remember (or not!) that I said in a couple of threads (whilst I was a wee demoer - those were the days....) that I might consider setting up an LFS Beginner's Cup when I got S2 - and a few people were intersted even at the mention of it. Well, now I have S2 (thanks Mum! :thumb:) here I am telling you about my plans:

All of the suggestions below are just suggestions, I would appreciate advice and hints about it, if you have any, but, most of all, if you have an interest in entering, then please say so in this thread. It certainly won't be starting (if at all :tilt:) before February at the earliest, as I have mocks all through January

First, I need to clarify 'a beginner'. I, obviously am a beginner coz I got S2 yesterday! However, I think that having S2 for less than about 4 months would be a good starting point. Also, I think I might need a mileage restriction. I've no idea what restriction I'll need to put on this; so some advice would be welcome.

Secondly; the actual series. The way I was going to run it was just to have 6-8 combos that are quite popular online, and run those for the series. However, as I want this series to be an introduction to League Racing, I thought that it would be nice if we nicked ideas from other Leagues into each round of the series. For Example, R1 could be (with Dru's permission!) a Baby-UFR round, with a combo and the rules from that series. R2 could be a RSWC (with Danowat's permission!) round, again with a combo and rules from that series. That way, participants would get a flavour of what sort of Leagues are out there. I'm pretty sure the heads of most Leagues don't care how fast entrants are; just that they're clean and have fun doing it - and might learn a few things from the seasoned pros.

Lastly, I'll need a server (obviously) and I might also request a little help from some people who already run leagues for advice on general running of the League, and what to do on the actual Race Day.

Thanks for reading; Please feel free to post you opinions/advice/interest below.

EDIT: Dekojester (http://www.lfsforum.net/member.php?u=122006) has kindly offered to do either a broadcast of the series (maybe not so likely) or like a summary of each round as a video (if he gets S2!). I was then hoping to send these to the SRT team and get them broadcast on 'This week in Sim Racing'

[Silky]

I had LFS for over a year but only just played it seriously recently, so does that make me a beginner??

I would love to get involved in some cups or proper races for points but I'm having trouble finding um. Maybe I need to look harder?

I think a mileage restriction would be the way to go instead of a monthly limit.

Count me in if I can.

[J@tko]

Ah, thanks Silky for reminding me - I'll also put in an exception to the rules on entry if you consider yourself a beginner, but aren't under the regs. For example, you havn't played in over a year and have just come back to it, or you've spent all of the 3 years that you've had LFS drifting, and now want to be a racer.

And, yes, you can be in (if you can prove you've only been playing seriously recently :))

The regs are there to stop experienced people from coming in and beating everyone up!

[jaythespacehound]

Sounds like something I'd be up for! :)

[J@tko]

Sounds like something I'd be up for! :)

Good to hear. The small problem might be the time difference. I was planning to run this on a weekday evening (in the UK). If I have enough support for it down under then I'll run it later on a Saturday evening, so you lot can join in too!

[pigi]

im not so begginer but i would like to be there. (if this posible)

[JasonL220]

I'd be up for it, only had the game about 1 month

[jaythespacehound]

True true, but depending on what time and when I might be in hols...

[gamersknowall]

If people having S2 for just slightly over 4 months are eligible, sign me up! :D

[J@tko]

Ok - I think that the rule will be that if you consider yourself to be a beginner (and a quick look at LFSW confirms that you're not world-class!) than you're welcome to enter. I hope that you're conscience will tell you that pretending to be a beginner and thrashing everyone during the series is not a good thing to do.

Thanks for showing your interest!

[JasonL220]

i think it would be a good idea if people posted what lap times they can archive, so people can get an idea of the type of pass people will be running, so if you know your alot quicker than most entrants, then you should not enter.

so mine is, XFG @ Blackwood:

Fastest 1.34.66
Average mid 1.35 and low 1.36

[J@tko]

i think it would be a good idea if people posted what lap times they can archive, so people can get an idea of the type of pass people will be running, so if you know your alot quicker than most entrants, then you should not enter.

so mine is, XFG @ Blackwood:

Fastest 1.34.66
Average mid 1.35 and low 1.36

I could look on LFSW to see what laptimes people are capable of I suppose. You can't delete your online PB's BTW can you. That might be a good way of weeding out cheats!!! Also, I'll see what milage people have done too - but I'll only kick you out if you've been to the moon and back on LFS!


P.S Updated 1st post with some exciting news!

[IlGuercio]

Count me in Jatko :thumb:

[hyntty]

Also, I'll see what milage people have done too - but I'll only kick you out if you've been to the moon and back on LFS!


Uhm, how far away is the moon? I think I can be considered a beginner so count me in.

[zeugnimod]

You can't delete your online PB's BTW can you.

Yes, you can.

They actually just all got deleted 1 or 2 days ago by Victor because the changes to cars/tracks made them worthless.

[niall09]

Can I join in? :shy: I'd love to be part of a league where I think I win a race :shy:


:p

E: If it happens, i wish you the best of luck with it :thumb:

[TAYLOR-MANIA]

:wave: Hey J@tko,

Please save a slot me for this! I've been interested in this idea since you first mentioned it a while ago.
I know it's still in the early days of planning 'n all, but I'd like to take part should it take place. ;)
I got S2 early last month, driven under 4k so far and I just got the G25 (& really struggling with it!) so that makes me a beginner, right?!

...The way I was going to run it was just to have 6-8 combos that are quite popular online, and run those for the series.

Okay, so 6-8 combos...does that mean 6-8 rounds/races?? (yup, i am a beginner!) :shrug:
Any idea of what they'll be yet? Or the number of laps/race duration? One of them has gotta be the FOX@AS Club! The GTRs@Kyoto is also a popular combination too.

Also, have you any idea in what order the races/rounds shall be run? I think to run them in order of car classes might be a good idea...so start with the low powered cars & finish with the high powered ones (accounting for engine position+drive wheels too)??
Just a thought, because the true beginners will be learning throughout the Cup...

...For Example, R1 could be (with Dru's permission!) a Baby-UFR round, with a combo and the rules from that series. R2 could be a RSWC (with Danowat's permission!) round, again with a combo and rules from that series...

Hmm, I'm not too sure how the rules differ from league to league, but I think it would be wise to stick to one set of rules for the whole series. Apart from compulsory pitstops & penalties, I'm willing to bet that all respectable league events use the same general basic racing rules.

...Lastly, I'll need a server (obviously) and I might also request a little help from some people who already run leagues for advice on general running of the League, and what to do on the actual Race Day.

No server = no series.
If I could help you out with a server then I would. I mean I can run a dedicated server on my PC no problem, but to run an event such as this..well, I really wouldn't feel confident doing so (also, I use WiFi)!

Anyway, keep us posted on what's going on yeah?
Cheers. :)

[niall09]

About the server, I'm sure you could use one of the DR servers :)

[J@tko]

I got S2 early last month, driven under 4k so far and I just got the G25 (& really struggling with it!) so that makes me a beginner, right?!

Yeah - sure. I remember when you were a demo racer, so you can definatly compete! Don't worry about struggling with your G25 - I bet you're still faster then me on my kb!



Okay, so 6-8 combos...does that mean 6-8 rounds/races?? (yup, i am a beginner!) :shrug:
Any idea of what they'll be yet? Or the number of laps/race duration? One of them has gotta be the FOX@AS Club! The GTRs@Kyoto is also a popular combination too.

Also, have you any idea in what order the races/rounds shall be run? I think to run them in order of car classes might be a good idea...so start with the low powered cars & finish with the high powered ones (accounting for engine position+drive wheels too)??
Just a thought, because the true beginners will be learning throughout the Cup...

However, as I want this series to be an introduction to League Racing, I thought that it would be nice if we nicked ideas from other Leagues into each round of the series. For Example, R1 could be (with Dru's permission!) a Baby-UFR round, with a combo and the rules from that series. R2 could be a RSWC (with Danowat's permission!) round, again with a combo and rules from that series. That way, participants would get a flavour of what sort of Leagues are out there.



Hmm, I'm not too sure how the rules differ from league to league, but I think it would be wise to stick to one set of rules for the whole series. Apart from compulsory pitstops & penalties, I'm willing to bet that all respectable league events use the same general basic racing rules.

Actually, what I meant by rules was like the number of laps/pitstops e.t.c, but I used bad wording - sorry! Agreed on the second point; racing rules will be as Clean Racers Club Rules, with some other series specific rules that I have.

I formulated a list of combos that we could use back when I was a demo racer, but that was before Patch Y, and before I tested the combos. With a few changes, here is the calendar, alpha version 0.1. (P.S I like the idea of getting to more powerful [but I've used how hard the are to drive] cars at the end!)

R1: BL GP - either XFG/XRG or FBM
R2: FE RX - RB4
R3: SO SPR 2 R - UF-BR :) (trust me - fantastic combo!)
R4: WE INT - FXO/RB4/XRT
R5: an AX layout - MRT
R5: KY NA R - FOX
R6: AS NA - XRR/FXR/FZR
R7: ? (suggestions please!) - RAC/LX6/FZ6

The races will probably last about 15-20 mins, with one of the rounds (either 4 or 6) being a (sort of!) endurance round, lasting 30 mins with a compulsary pit stop. Obviously this is up for consultation and I'd like to hear your opinions on this.


Anyway, keep us posted on what's going on yeah?
Cheers. :)

Will do! :thumb: It'll either be in this thread or there'll be one in the League Forums (if it gets going!) soon.

About the server, I'm sure you could use one of the DR servers :)

That would be great! Thank you very much. Please tell me if you get confirmation of this.

[JasonL220]

The combo's sound good, i'll give some of the one's i dont know a try and give feed back.

[niall09]

That would be great! Thank you very much. Please tell me if you get confirmation of this.

Yup, we can give you a server :)

If you need help adminning or anything, give me a shout :)

[evilpimp]

:O Can I join plz O_O I can prove to you that im a beginer :P

I've never been in any league or event and I think this will be a great start. Though I might be going to the Guess Drift Event sunday.

My LFSW stats have a lot of km driven but their not mine its cuz i was given the account. Look at the PBs tho and u'll see that im not a champ.

Looking forward to competing in this league XD

[FinnWest]

Just bought S2 License two days ago so I am really intrested in joining Beginners Cup.

[JO53PHS]

What is the mileage limit??

I've travelled 5,628 Miles - can I still join?

But I've only been playing LFS Since october

[pigi]

so when we will start? And will u send pass for server and time to E-mail please ?

[Dalek0220]

I'd like to join, only combo I'm good at is AS2 with FBM.

[jimaxx]

I woudnt mind joining if possible (T'wud depend on times etc due to family >:|) To proove im a noob: Just switched to wheel my fastest FBM BL1 lap with kb was 1.16 now its 1.18 with wheel so im not exacly fast <3

[cougar7005]

id be interested, ive only had s2 since christmas eve.

[J@tko]

id be interested, ive only had s2 since christmas eve.

Good for you - I got it one day before! :razz:

UPDATE: We have a new website: http://new-dimension-racing.bravehost.com/index.html. My little 'company' is New Dimension Racing, and it's the lot who are organising this, the LFS Beginner's Cup and the soon-to-arrive LFS Multi-Make Challenge - coming Summer 2008!

[J@tko]

Calendar V0.2!

R1: BL GP - either XFG/XRG
R2: FE RX - RB4
R3: SO SPR 2 R - UF-BR :) (trust me - fantastic combo!)
R4: WE INT - FXO/RB4/XRT (poss enduro)
R5: an AX layout - MRT
R5: KY NA R - FBM
R6: AS NA - XRR/FXR/FZR (poss enduro)
R7: FE BL? - RAC/LX6/FZ6

Suggestions Please

For V0.3, will update with number of laps.

[GTR_Yuni]

R4: WE INT - FXO/RB4/XRT (poss enduro)
Please, not WE1 with TBOs. I think with GT3-restricted GTRs would work much better here.

[zeugnimod]

I would suggest AS North with the TBOs (I love AS North :shy:) and maybe SO Long as the endurance round with the big GTRs. :)

It's the 7th round so the participants should be able to drive with walls surrounding them. :D

[evilpimp]

:D:D:DThis is gunna be cool:D:D:D

I have no problem with any combos really ill just try to adapt to the different style of driving :P

[mccoll99]

Hey,

I bought S2 yesterday and would love to be involved in the beginers cup!

[Matt0snap]

:thumb: This sounds like really good idea to help beginners learn about different leauges :)

I know I have been around for a year and a bit, but I just got a G25 and still am about 5 - 8 seconds off my normal pace. (which is about 10th place in a 20 car field)

It would be really hard for me to get the time off to race but if I can I would be interested.

P.S. I just got my G25 when the PB's were reset.. so I think most of mine should be with the G25 instead of my old wheel.

[cbr929]

I am interested too. Bought S2 license 1 month ago.

[J@tko]

Please, not WE1 with TBOs. I think with GT3-restricted GTRs would work much better here.

I can't stand Westhill at all! See post underneath next quote.

I would suggest AS North with the TBOs (I love AS North :shy:) and maybe SO Long as the endurance round with the big GTRs. :)

It's the 7th round so the participants should be able to drive with walls surrounding them. :D

What I wanted was one version of each track and as many classes of car as possible. So it would be easy to swap over the TBO to AS NO and GTRs to SO LO. With the thing about GT3 cars, how restricted are they. I might slot them in. I'm off to do a little testing now and will report back.

[LFSn00b]

May i join in and steal the cup? ;d

[JohnUK89]

Online Statistics for lfsn00b
Travelled Distance: 41622 Ml

I would assume that means no? ;)

[dekojester]

Hey, maybe we should allow a couple "Pros" in just to be Coaches to critique driving of the less experienced drivers.

One certainly doesn't want something like the NASCAR Busch Series, what with all the "Buschwhackers".

I'm formulating a plan for coverage of this league. I'm trying to think what's worth it at the start..just video recaps (precanned) or F1-style "world feed" that would be distributed for use.

d

[Technique]

I'm interested. I used to play a ton pre-s1 with the mouse on blackwood (XR mainly). I did play S1 for a bit (even joined a team) but I mainly stuck to blackwood/XR/demo.

I don't remember the last time I played - maybe a year or more (?) but I'm pretty awful now. I just purchased S2 last week. Nearly all the cars/tracks are new to me.

[dougie-lampkin]

Can I join? Almost all of my mileage is from cruise servers :tilt:
Got a G25 about 3 weeks ago, so I'm fairly slow :nod:


Travelled Distance - 7700 Miles
Laps - 1250
Races Won - 16
Drags / Wins - 64 / 23

[J@tko]

We have our own forum!!

Feel free to continue posting in here, I'll still keep reading it. I'm just starting up the forum now - It's here: http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=178

[Hurley24]

hey man this sounds really cool i would love to sign up(if not full already)
oh and i just got my S2 on boxing day

[J@tko]

hey man this sounds really cool i would love to sign up(if not full already)
oh and i just got my S2 on boxing day

No its not full (:) - no where near!)

For all: Sign up thread is here: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=36304
Please read all the other threads in the LFS Beginner's League Forum too.

[mfekjaer]

R1: BL GP - XFG/XRG - 10 laps
R2: FE RX - ALL Road Cars - 14 laps
R3: SO CH R - UF-BR/XF-JR - 25 laps
R4: AS NO - FXO/RB4/XRT - 7 laps
R5: an AX layout - MRT - ?
R6: KY NA R/chicane - FBM - 9 laps
R7: SO LO - XRR/FXR/FZR (enduro) - 20 laps w/pit stop
R8: FE BL - RAC/LX4/FZ6 - 5 laps :scratchch


are you shure about the number of laps??
the enduro shuld be longer than R3: SO CH R - UF-BR/XF-JR - 25 laps :scratchch

enduro might be: 60 laps or so... something around two hours of intense racing :nod:

we might fix some layouts too, so nobody goes over the grass and cause accsidents with other cars that dont drive on grass... :shrug:

but anyway I am looking forward to this event :D:tilt::nod::thumb:

[J@tko]

are you shure about the number of laps??
the enduro shuld be longer than R3: SO CH R - UF-BR/XF-JR - 25 laps :scratchch

enduro might be: 60 laps or so... something around two hours of intense racing :nod:

we might fix some layouts too, so nobody goes over the grass and cause accsidents with other cars that dont drive on grass... :shrug:

but anyway I am looking forward to this event :D:tilt::nod::thumb:

Neither me nor the race admin have the time to do a 2h enduro. That's why it's only about 30 mins (p.s - the combo is quite hard for 30 mins - let alone 2hs!). All the other races are about 20 mins.

If you want to change the layouts CTRA style to stop people cutting then you can. P.S, can you choose a car for round 1 in the Round 1 Entry list and information thread in the New Dimension Racing Events Forum in the Leagues and events section.

[zeugnimod]

Neither me nor the race admin have the time to do a 2h enduro. That's why it's only about 30 mins (p.s - the combo is quite hard for 30 mins - let alone 2hs!). All the other races are about 20 mins.

You shouldn't call it "enduro" then, tbh.

A 30 minute race is closer to a sprint race than an endurance race. ;)

[Mike Bingo]

Is it too late for me to join, I've had LFS for nearly a year now but I've nevr been able to properly race online because my PC was pap until I built a new custom one (it's in the repair shop at the minute, probably down to shoddy workmanship:guilty:).

[J@tko]

You shouldn't call it "enduro" then, tbh.

A 30 minute race is closer to a sprint race than an endurance race. ;)

True :scratchch. I'll call it a short enduro!

Is it too late for me to join, I've had LFS for nearly a year now but I've nevr been able to properly race online because my PC was pap until I built a new custom one (it's in the repair shop at the minute, probably down to shoddy workmanship:guilty:).

Nope - sign up in the 'New Dimension Racing Team Events' section of the Leagues and Events sub-section.

[evilpimp]

Why not just make it an enduro then :P 50 lap race maybe like 4 mandatory pit stops :D

[J@tko]

Neither me nor the race admin have the time to do a 1 or 2h enduro. That's why it's only about 30 mins (p.s - the combo is quite hard for 30 mins - let alone 2hs!). All the other races are about 20 mins.

:thumbsup:

[evilpimp]

Right. lol.

/me is bored and dont want to start studyin for his grammar test...

[Fredthebest]

Aww thought it was maybe demo =[ Dont have s2. Have fun guys.

[dekojester]

You shouldn't call it "enduro" then, tbh.

A 30 minute race is closer to a sprint race than an endurance race. ;)

It's an enduro in relative terms. How's that ?

[peejayh]

Does a person qualify as a beginner if they have only a default setup??

[J@tko]

Does a person qualify as a beginner if they have only a default setup??

No. Anyway you've done 15,000 miles and I'm afraid that's too many. sorry


Other news - we are full up. Reserve signup has started (see sig!), but if we get 36 racers then we'll have 2 races.

[moskvich3v1]

Can i race too :shrug::shrug:

[J@tko]

Yes - you can sign up for Rounds 1,2,5 and 7 w/S1. Sign up via link in my sig.

[moskvich3v1]

Yes - you can sign up for Rounds 1,2,5 and 7 w/S1. Sign up via link in my sig.

Yea cool :smileypul but can you tell me how please :)
Greetz

[J@tko]

Yea cool :smileypul but can you tell me how please :)
Greetz

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=36949

[moskvich3v1]

Thank you very much! :thumb:

moskvich3v1-.Vankata-1,2,5 and 7 w/S1

Btw:when the race start :)

[J@tko]

Btw:when the race start :)

3rd Feb @ 7.30pm. GMT

[Waz]

I would want to join because I don't play online often and this would be good chance. I had S2 about 3 months, but I don't play often and I'm still not used to my G25 (Xmas present), so I would fit in greatly.
I'm not sure if I can race all races. Can I join?

[J@tko]

I would want to join because I don't play online often and this would be good chance. I had S2 about 3 months, but I don't play often and I'm still not used to my G25 (Xmas present), so I would fit in greatly.
I'm not sure if I can race all races. Can I join?

Yep - use link above. We're on reserves ATM but will run 2 races if we reach 36 participants.

[ATC Quicksilver]

If you need some skins again let me know and I will knock something up for you.

[J@tko]

If you need some skins again let me know and I will knock something up for you.

We're good for skins thanks. Each person provides their own, and the SC skin has been done by JO53PHS.

But thanks anyway.

[ATC Quicksilver]

Ah cool, much easier that way, I saw your SC skin...it was upside down on its roof. :thumb:

[J@tko]

Ah cool, much easier that way, I saw your SC skin...it was upside down on its roof. :thumb:

The SC skin is the only one our Safety Car driver has ATM, and so he does all his practicing in it. I smashed into him earlier (by accident!) at South City.

It's a simple skin - but remarkably effective.

[ATC Quicksilver]

The SC skin is the only one our Safety Car driver has ATM, and so he does all his practicing in it. I smashed into him earlier (by accident!) at South City.

It's a simple skin - but remarkably effective.

I rekon you should put the name on the skin upside down just for a laugh, that should spook the guys following it during the race. One tip for you, if you need a replacement SC driver don't ask Franky500, I remember an event where he was the SC and managed to crash into me on the slow down lap. :D

[moskvich3v1]

:schwitz:I am enter fon the race write?

[J@tko]

I rekon you should put the name on the skin upside down just for a laugh, that should spook the guys following it during the race.

:D:D:D:D



One tip for you, if you need a replacement SC driver don't ask Franky500, I remember an event where he was the SC and managed to crash into me on the slow down lap. :D

Thanks for that. Don't worry - we've got either Dekojester (good choice) or if he's busy, LFSN00b to do it :(! (Bad choice!)

[ATC Quicksilver]

If I had to give you a second bit of advice, it would be to keep Niko as far away from a safety car as possible. I heard that if the word safe is ever associated with him the world will end...at least that is what I heard. :D

[Dalek0220]

If I'm late for the start, can I be SC?

[dekojester]

I rekon you should put the name on the skin upside down just for a laugh, that should spook the guys following it during the race.

Nah, I'll just get a set of wheels on the roof incase I bin it again. :bananadea

[dougie-lampkin]

Erm...would it be possible to divide the field into 2 anyway? Because I (and a few other people I'd say) have not-so-quick PCs and Internet Speed, and a full field would cause my PC to implode...well...I'd be under 10fps anyways...On CTRA full field starts, by the time my PC gets a green light, the other cars are at T1 :D

[J@tko]

Erm...would it be possible to divide the field into 2 anyway? Because I (and a few other people I'd say) have not-so-quick PCs and Internet Speed, and a full field would cause my PC to implode...well...I'd be under 10fps anyways...On CTRA full field starts, by the time my PC gets a green light, the other cars are at T1 :D

Yep - by Round 1we'll have too many anyway I think.

Here's how I think it should basically work.
We have 20 min qualifying, and I group people into 2 groups. Group A have until 11mins, then they must instantly pit. Then Group B have their turn. Race 1 is the odd numbered people after quali (1,3,5,7,9 e.t.c), and Race 2 is the even (2,4,6,8 e.t.c). Equal points for the 2 races.

I'm not sure what to do for the endurance round. Ideas?

[LFSn00b]

If I had to give you a second bit of advice, it would be to keep Niko as far away from a safety car as possible. I heard that if the word safe is ever associated with him the world will end...at least that is what I heard. :DWhat do you mean? I can drive the SC well... (http://www.lfsforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=46748&stc=1&d=1199738134)

[Fredthebest]

I would be able to participate if i could get the question write in DK's quiz im left with.. its the really hard one.. What connects the following: .. Question 8.. /sigh too hard!

[moskvich3v1]

Why don't make the competition soon :shrug: 3 February lol 1 month:schwitz::schwitz:

[dougie-lampkin]

Fredthebest (http://www.lfsforum.net/member.php?u=186137)
S2 licensed

Nice :thumb:

So it's definatly two groups? WOW, much better! :)

[Fredthebest]

I guess I can be in the cup now :D

Thanks to DK for putting the quiz up :D
(Yeah your gonna see that in every post i make for a while :S )

[JO53PHS]

I have three signatures... HA HA
__________________

Here's my first signature
__________________

And my second,
And below is my third :D

[moskvich3v1]

Ok Ja@tko why don't you make a test drive on Beginer cup:tilt:

[Dalek0220]

Ok Ja@tko why don't you make a test drive on Beginer cup:tilt:
Well there is [DR] Server 1 where you can test... but it is an S2 comp.

[moskvich3v1]

Well there is [DR] Server 1 where you can test... but it is an S2 comp.

Is the competition will be a drift :tilt: I like drifting ,J@tko says that i can be a part of the racers 1,2,5 and 7 with S1 :thumb:

[J@tko]

Is the competition will be a drift :tilt: I like drifting ,J@tko says that i can be a part of the racers 1,2,5 and 7 with S1 :thumb:

Yeah - sorry I can't get the server 2 b S1 ATM. But it will be for Rounds 1,2 5 & 7 i promise!

EDIT: Ah. No it can't because we have an XFR safety Car. Sorry mate, it's a no go for you. Really sorry!

[Dalek0220]

Is the competition will be a drift :tilt: I like drifting ,J@tko says that i can be a part of the racers 1,2,5 and 7 with S1 :thumb:
No. It is racing. Drifting is for people who are dumbass's.

[JO53PHS]

No. It is racing. Drifting is for people who are dumbass's.

+1

[Dalek0220]

+1
Yay I got sig quoted!

[JO53PHS]

Yay I got sig quoted!

:D

[J@tko]

Please stop the Drift vs. Racing arguement now.

LFS is like a plane. Messers Wilbert and Wright invented the plane. The armies of the world realised that they could use this plane to drop things on people's heads. Other people realised that planes could be used to transport people across the world.

LFS was invented by some people called the devs. Some people realised that they could use LFS for drifting. Some realised it could be used for cruising.

Some people don't think that planes should be used for dropping things on people's heads. Some people think LFS should not be used for drifting. That's their opinion and if people want to use LFS for drifting then that's fine by me. Just like I accept that people use planes to drop things on peoples heads.

EOD.

[JO53PHS]

Please stop the Drift vs. Racing arguement now.

LFS is like a plane. Messers Wilbert and Wright invented the plane. The armies of the world realised that they could use this plane to drop things on people's heads. Other people realised that planes could be used to transport people across the world.

LFS was invented by some people called the devs. Some people realised that they could use LFS for drifting. Some realised it could be used for cruising.

Some people don't think that planes should be used for dropping things on people's heads. Some people think LFS should not be used for drifting. That's their opinion and if people want to use LFS for drifting then that's fine by me. Just like I accept that people use planes to drop things on peoples heads.

EOD.

End Of Discussion?

Just to let you know there was never a discussion

There never will be one :D:D:)

[blackbird04217]

No. It is racing. Drifting is for people who are dumbass's.

Why do you say drifting is for dumb***'s? Just because its a different form of motorsport? I mean come on, I'm a racer and now and then I like to hop in the car and slide around the corners in a smooth linked fashion. It can help learn controlling the car during a slide so in a race you can be more prepared if it was to happen. Now, I don't care whether you agree with what I said or not, because I drift now and then for the fun of it. As far as saying its for dumb***'s then explain why you say something rude rather then nothing at all? (Oh and Dalek you never responded to my PM about the Head-to-Head incidents...)

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Sorry for the rest of the readers that I didn't add anything informative to this post, and JO53PHS - please get that quote from Dalek out of your signature, I can't get why people get frowned upon because they drift/race/ovalrace/dragrace or anything else, be it in the game or in real life - its pointless. Why can't you all get along since we all have the same hobby for enjoyment: Driving.

[moskvich3v1]

So i can't play :x:x:schwitz::schwitz::schwitz::chairfall write?

[Dalek0220]

So i can't play :x:x:schwitz::schwitz::schwitz::chairfall write?
Face facts, it is for S2 licensed drivers only. Unless you can suddenly get to play S2 by a "miracle".*cough*DK*cough*

[Dalek0220]

(Oh and Dalek you never responded to my PM about the Head-to-Head incidents...)
You didn't say anything about a reply. PM sent anyway.

About drifting, everyone has different opinions. I think that LFS is just supposed to be for racing, yet some people think it is great for drifting.
I don't like drifting due to the fact I can't do it, yet I can perfectly keep control on some cars(FBM, RB4, FOX ect).

[J@tko]

I don't like drifting due to the fact I can't do it

So you're jealous then. I can't drift yet I don't mind drifters.

Please end it here.

[tvpro]

Is it still full?

[Snake2]

l would be very intrested, I will give all the support I can. :)

[KrazyMitch]

I am a beginner and i am possibly getting S2 this week!:thumb: If so i will join you guys then.:eclipsee_

[oophus]

Would I be qualified to join?

I've raced pretty much before, but in April last year I totally crushed my knee, so I can't use a wheel anymore, (or atleast for some time) so I have to learn using the mouse to play.

[CR1972]

I've had S2 for a good while, but have really only started using it properly in the last week, since I got a new wheel over christmas. I'd be interested in a beginners cup, if it isnt too late?

[J@tko]

l would be very intrested, I will give all the support I can. :)

I am a beginner and i am possibly getting S2 this week!:thumb: If so i will join you guys then.:eclipsee_

Would I be qualified to join?

I've raced pretty much before, but in April last year I totally crushed my knee, so I can't use a wheel anymore, (or atleast for some time) so I have to learn using the mouse to play.

I've had S2 for a good while, but have really only started using it properly in the last week, since I got a new wheel over christmas. I'd be interested in a beginners cup, if it isnt too late?

Thanks all for your interest.

Follow the link in my sig.

We have a couple of full time spots left, a couple of single round entries and then we're on reserves.

[KrazyMitch]

I Probably wont be able to get S2 for a good month or so.:( So I wont be able to join you guys any time soon.:ashamed:

[TomMK]

I Probably wont be able to get S2 for a good month or so.:( So I wont be able to join you guys any time soon.:ashamed:

J@kto's Beginner Cup idea has really taken off, so I'm certain it will be run again after the "inaugural" cup in February and March this year. Hang around in the beginner cup forum, keep up to date with how it's going, and make sure you get S2 in time for the next one :thumb:

[J@tko]

J@kto's Beginner Cup idea has really taken off, so I'm certain it will be run again after the "inaugural" cup in February and March this year. Hang around in the beginner cup forum, keep up to date with how it's going, and make sure you get S2 in time for the next one :thumb:

I know - hasn't it. When I first thought of the idea in November time, I thought we'd get around 10-15 sign ups. I made up a set of rules and jokingly put in something about having two races if we had too many sign up. How wrong I was!!!

We're nearing 40 sign-ups already and it's another fortnight before the series starts.

It'll be an annual event, held each Feb/March time. There'll be another New Dimension Racing Event at the end of the summer, watch out for that.

[NtrlBrnRacer]

I know - hasn't it. When I first thought of the idea in November time, I thought we'd get around 10-15 sign ups. I made up a set of rules and jokingly put in something about having two races if we had too many sign up. How wrong I was!!!

We're nearing 40 sign-ups already and it's another fortnight before the series starts.

It'll be an annual event, held each Feb/March time. There'll be another New Dimension Racing Event at the end of the summer, watch out for that.
40 signups? :) theres only allowed 32 racers

[J@tko]

40 signups? :) theres only allowed 32 racers

We're having two races :tilt:.

[NtrlBrnRacer]

ah ok i gotcha :D you need any servers?

[J@tko]

ah ok i gotcha :D you need any servers?

Nope - got one from Dynamic Racing thanks :thumb:.

[evilpimp]

O man.. 20 people on the grid O_O

Thats gunna be horible FPS at start :S.

Unless Im at my dads but last I checked during Round 1 ill be at my moms......

Meh hopefully ill catch up for the spots lost in the rest of the race..

[TomMK]

It'll be an annual event, held each Feb/March time. There'll be another New Dimension Racing Event at the end of the summer, watch out for that.

WHAT! ANNUAL! I can't wait that long!

In all seriousness, given the interest you've had, this thing should be regular, and running most of the time. What do you think? :nod:

[Gnomie]

O man.. 20 people on the grid O_O

Thats gunna be horible FPS at start :S.

Unless Im at my dads but last I checked during Round 1 ill be at my moms......

Meh hopefully ill catch up for the spots lost in the rest of the race..

Only one way to fix that: be sure to get pole position. :thumb:

[J@tko]

Only one way to fix that: be sure to get pole position. :thumb:
Or do what I do - and turn everything down! :)

WHAT! ANNUAL! I can't wait that long!

In all seriousness, given the interest you've had, this thing should be regular, and running most of the time. What do you think? :nod:


Well, that is a good idea. I can't do it in april-july as that's when I'll have exams for the next 3 years. Maybe late autumn?

Depends when the UF-BR fall out cup is. If that finishes in October, then the series will be run again just before christmas.

[TomMK]

:scratchch hmmm

Well, you've done the hard work already for the first series by sorting the calendar, server, applications process and rules. The subsequent series could almost run themselves, no? Dekojester would still act as race control I hope, but aside from that, whatever decisions you make for this series would just carry over. Thoughts?

[dougie-lampkin]

I just realised I'll have to run LFS with no skins, graphics basically OFF, I'll pretty much be driving by sound :D

Oh, and I'll use snow mod, it has more fps than grass apparently...

[J@tko]

:scratchch hmmm

Well, you've done the hard work already for the first series by sorting the calendar, server, applications process and rules. The subsequent series could almost run themselves, no? Dekojester would still act as race control I hope, but aside from that, whatever decisions you make for this series would just carry over. Thoughts?

That is true. Subsequent series will have less organising for me to do. How about we have it twice a year, once now and another in the start of the autumn?

I just realised I'll have to run LFS with no skins, graphics basically OFF, I'll pretty much be driving by sound :D

Oh, and I'll use snow mod, it has more fps than grass apparently...

I play with graphics basically off too.

(nice tip about the snow mod :D)

[TomMK]

That is true. Subsequent series will have less organising for me to do. How about we have it twice a year, once now and another in the start of the autumn?

You can run it as often as you like!! :thumb:

I guess it depends how the first one goes really, doesn't it.

[evilpimp]

lol J@tko I tried putting everything down and thats when I get 5 fps with everyone on the track... lol

I think ill try the first advice about takin pole position :P that should work.

[J@tko]

lol J@tko I tried putting everything down and thats when I get 5 fps with everyone on the track... lol

I think ill try the first advice about takin pole position :P that should work.

Well, you won't be at the back, that's for certs.

I'm slow, Dougie-lampkin says he's really slow and JO53PHS is slow cos he's just got a wheel. So that's 17th! :D

[evilpimp]

Aha but itll be worst if im in the middle lol everyone at the back will keep bumping into me . Meh... Ill try to get in the top 3 in quali... Just need to practice a bit harder after exams.

[dougie-lampkin]

If I had a decent PC, i would probably decimate everyone! But going into corners with 5 - 10fps ain't good...

[JO53PHS]

If I had a decent PC, i would probably decimate everyone! But going into corners with 5 - 10fps ain't good...

HAHA @ all of you.

Im getting between 100 and 300 FPS with all settings on full :)

A full grid at CTRA doesn't bring my FPS down much lower than 80.

So I'll be able to overtake you all as you laggg :tilt:

[dougie-lampkin]

I have it! I'm gonna disable every single setting in LFS, so that it's basically a blank screen. I can then use race spectator to drive! Flawless plan!

[tvpro]

Instead of having first come first serve, why not let in ten more people or so into the series and have a pool that will be outside the race if they dont qualify? That way there is a incentive to perform good laptimes.

[Gnomie]

HAHA @ all of you.

Im getting between 100 and 300 FPS with all settings on full :)

A full grid at CTRA doesn't bring my FPS down much lower than 80.

So I'll be able to overtake you all as you laggg :tilt:

A bit off topic, but I wonder if it would be possible to implement a feature that automatically changes graphics settings in the game to keep frame rates above a user defined minimum as the race progresses. So that in the beginning when the whole grid is in frame AA and AF and stuff would be turned down, but then as the race progresses these things would be turned on again to make the graphics better? Would that be at all possible?

[TAYLOR-MANIA]

Instead of having first come first serve, why not let in ten more people or so into the series and have a pool that will be outside the race if they dont qualify? That way there is a incentive to perform good laptimes.

Well you would say that as you're not on the Entry List! :tilt:
It's a Beginners Cup. Qualy times shouldn't be that important.

Whilst I'm here I may aswell add this -
Am I the only one who is a little skeptical about having two races?
I mean one championship & two races, we're gonna be against players who aren't even in the same race! And what about teams too, they're all gonna be in the same race right?

[TomMK]

I don't think teams are happening. It would probably over-complicate things, and it's not really within the scope of the Beginner's Cup to introduce people to team racing.

I see your point about splitting the grid into 2 races, in that you may lose control over your position in the championship (e.g. drivers A and B, last race, A is one point ahead, A qualifies P1 and B in P2, they get put into seperate races, B can do nothing about A winning his race and therefore the cup because he isn't given the opportunity to beat A on track. With 37 registered applicants, I'd say it was unlikely more than 32 will ever turn up in one go, but if they do, what else can we do?

[TomMK]

A bit off topic, but I wonder if it would be possible to implement a feature that automatically changes graphics settings in the game to keep frame rates above a user defined minimum as the race progresses. So that in the beginning when the whole grid is in frame AA and AF and stuff would be turned down, but then as the race progresses these things would be turned on again to make the graphics better? Would that be at all possible?

Nothing's impossible :scratchch

Ask Scawen?

[J@tko]

Whilst I'm here I may aswell add this -
Am I the only one who is a little skeptical about having two races?
I mean one championship & two races, we're gonna be against players who aren't even in the same race! And what about teams too, they're all gonna be in the same race right?

I don't think teams are happening. It would probably over-complicate things, and it's not really within the scope of the Beginner's Cup to introduce people to team racing.

I see your point about splitting the grid into 2 races, in that you may lose control over your position in the championship (e.g. drivers A and B, last race, A is one point ahead, A qualifies P1 and B in P2, they get put into seperate races, B can do nothing about A winning his race and therefore the cup because he isn't given the opportunity to beat A on track. With 37 registered applicants, I'd say it was unlikely more than 32 will ever turn up in one go, but if they do, what else can we do?

Agreed about not competing with a championship rival.

However, faced with the fact that we have more than the maximum 32 allowed in a race, we have to have more than one race. It was either having top half in one race and the bottom half in the other (this would be unfair as the winner of the second race would only get a maximum of half points), or the one that we've adopted.

Even if only 31 people turn up (max is 31 due to SC), then we'll still have 2 races as 31 beginners + T1 = mass disaster.

If anyone has any better ideas then contact me.

[TAYLOR-MANIA]

I got an idea, but it's too late now. You should've closed the Entry List when it reached 31 applicants... :nod:
Would've been alot less work for you & dekojester too. But nevermind.

[TomMK]

I got an idea, but it's too late now. You should've closed the Entry List when it reached 31 applicants... :nod:
Would've been alot less work for you & dekojester too. But nevermind.

Excluding people from a tournament designed to welcome them to the community wouldn't make sense :razz:. The number of applicants has levelled off now, after the initial flurry of interest. I'd be very suprised if 31 turned up to any event, but J@kto's point remains, he has the quality of the racing to consider as well as hard limits.

@ J@tko: you mentioned splitting the top and bottom halves of the grid. If a similar number apply next time, how about two "divisions", with the better racers in division 1 and the proper beginners in division 2?

The top 3 in division 2 would be "promoted" to division 1 at the end of the series, and the top 3 of division 1 would "graduate" the LFSBC and have something to take to the major teams and say "check out my qualification from the school of LFSBC :thumb:"

[JO53PHS]

I don't think teams are happening. It would probably over-complicate things, and it's not really within the scope of the Beginner's Cup to introduce people to team racing.

Jack, we're going to win the teams competition because we're the only team there is :D

[J@tko]

@ J@tko: you mentioned splitting the top and bottom halves of the grid. If a similar number apply next time, how about two "divisions", with the better racers in division 1 and the proper beginners in division 2?

The top 3 in division 2 would be "promoted" to division 1 at the end of the series, and the top 3 of division 1 would "graduate" the LFSBC and have something to take to the major teams and say "check out my qualification from the school of LFSBC :thumb:"

You're full of great ideas aren't you! :D

It's a tip-top concept, not sure how well it will work in reality, but i'll certainly bear it in mind and try and implement it for Season 2.

Jack, we're going to win the teams competition because we're the only team there is :D

Well, there isn't an official teams championship, but I'll rig the unofficial one so we'll win anyway :D

[JO53PHS]

but I'll rig the unofficial one so we'll win anyway :D

Thats what I like to hear :D

[hyntty]

Well, there isn't an official teams championship, but I'll rig the unofficial one so we'll win anyway :D

Thats what I like to hear :D

Not so fast... We'll enter the unofficial teams championship, it'll be.. "Team some-random-car-show-name-here-And-yes,-we-couln't-think-of-a-better-name"

Ha Ha!

[JO53PHS]

We'll still win the unnoficial team championship anyway because the series will be over by the time you've figured out how to fit your team tag in your name

[SRCSNHAYWCTOABN]

some-random-car-show-name-here-And-yes,-we-couln't-think-of-a-better-name

He he :D

[hyntty]

the series will be over by the time you've figured out how to fit your team tag in your name

[SRCSNHAYWCTOABN]

some-random-car-show-name-here-And-yes,-we-couln't-think-of-a-better-name

He he :D

That's where i'm smarter than you, it does fit - just.

[dougie-lampkin]

lmao will teh promotech win this?

[TomMK]

I think dekojester will win :nod:

[dougie-lampkin]

haha lol he did break the XFG wr in his XFR :D

[J@tko]

I think dekojester will win :nod:

haha lol he did break the XFG wr in his XFR :D

And he's crashed the safety car, rolled it twice and crashed into cars that were racing, twice. :D

[dougie-lampkin]

haha I didn't see that part :scratchch

So, do slower cars get a headstart in the race? I was thinking like the way it's done in some banger racing series, where the qualifying times are reversed, so that the fastest drivers start at the rear. It gives them an extra challenge, and gives slow drivers a chance to drive competitively...

[J@tko]

So, do slower cars get a headstart in the race? I was thinking like the way it's done in some banger racing series, where the qualifying times are reversed, so that the fastest drivers start at the rear. It gives them an extra challenge, and gives slow drivers a chance to drive competitively...


No.


(Just coz u want pole :D)

[JO53PHS]

And he's crashed the safety car, rolled it twice and crashed into cars that were racing, twice. :D

I grant you permission to ban me from SCing all NDR Events if I manage to roll the XRR at the Oval :D

[J@tko]

I grant you permission to ban me from SCing all NDR Events if I manage to roll the XRR at the Oval :D

Good luck with that :D


The XRR is possibly the least rollable car there is
There aren't any kerbs at the Oval:razz:

[JO53PHS]

Good luck with that :D


The XRR is possibly the least rollable car there is
There aren't any kerbs at the Oval:razz:

Please don't ban me from SCing! :)

[dougie-lampkin]

(Just coz u want pole :D)


FOILED AGAIN! I nearly had it lol

[dougie-lampkin]

OK, I've just realised I have a serious problem...

After spending a week playing both CLC and CTRA, I find that I lose connection a LOT. I mean every lap. But I have no lag, and I can see everyone right up until I lose connection. It only seems to happen in relatively full servers, which is annoying...

[Stefani24]

Id join

[TomMK]

OK, I've just realised I have a serious problem...

After spending a week playing both CLC and CTRA, I find that I lose connection a LOT. I mean every lap. But I have no lag, and I can see everyone right up until I lose connection. It only seems to happen in relatively full servers, which is annoying...

Does it happen on every server or just those two?

[TomMK]

Id join

Stefani - join the Reserves list in the LFS Beginner Cup forum, you may be allowed to join if people don't turn up. I think reserves are also welcome to join all practice events (I go to them and I'm a "last resort" reserve!)

Showing your interest now should also guaruntee you a place in the next cup.

[dougie-lampkin]

Well they're really the only two servers I go on :tilt:

Plus they're always fairly full. I can join other servers and never lose connection, but they generally aren't as full...

[moskvich3v1]

Now ,can i join:scratchch Please tell me again what server ,what date ,what hour and with what car :smileypul

[TomMK]

Now ,can i join:scratchch Please tell me again what server ,what date ,what hour and with what car :smileypul

Hi moskvich - the Beginner Cup Forum is here: http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=178

Read through the stickies, then you need to join the reserves list, as all the competition places are full now. However, I think it is still likely you will get a race or 2, if you can come to the events. The first event is this weekend. Races are every Sunday.

[J@tko]

We are on the LFS Remote :thumb:

LFS BC racing every sunday from 7pm GMT on [DR] Server 1. Come and watch :nod:

Free practice is tonight @ 7pm.

[Math1js]

Id like to join as reserve or in the next cup, just bought S2 yesterday (*huuray* :D)
so i think im enough beginner, I thought id learn some racing skills participating in the BC :)

[J@tko]

Id like to join as reserve or in the next cup, just bought S2 yesterday (*huuray* :D)
so i think im enough beginner, I thought id learn some racing skills participating in the BC :)

Sure - join up into the reserve list via the link in my sig :thumbsup:

If you turn up - you'll get a race - only 17/38 turned up on Sunday.

Hope you can join us - you'd be very welcome.

Congrats on S2! :thumb:

[tvpro]

Sure - join up into the reserve list via the link in my sig :thumbsup:

If you turn up - you'll get a race - only 17/38 turned up on Sunday.

Hope you can join us - you'd be very welcome.

Congrats on S2! :thumb:

Are you going to weed out no-shows eventually? I know i'd like a permanent spot :shy:

[J@tko]

Are you going to weed out no-shows eventually? I know i'd like a permanent spot :shy:
http://www.lfsforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=48540&d=1201960317

May I draw your attention to entry number 40? :shy:

[TomMK]

The championship is progressing nicely now, with the publishing of an official rulebook yesterday.

Just a reminder to all beginners to get themselves registered on the Beginner Cup for a great introduction to competition racing :thumb:.

[J@tko]

The championship is progressing nicely now, with the publishing of an official rulebook yesterday.

Just a reminder to all beginners to get themselves registered on the Beginner Cup for a great introduction to competition racing :thumb:.

Thanks Tom :thumb:

*hint* Lots of people who have entered havn't turned up to either round so far, we're only having one 20-grid race. *hint* (there's 20 spots left then!)

[dougie-lampkin]

Thanks Tom :thumb:

*hint* Lots of people who have entered havn't turned up to either round so far, we're only having one 20-grid race. *hint* (there's 20 spots left then!)
Don't say that, I've 6 fps on the grid as it is!

[TomMK]

dougie - whats the weakest part of your pc - I'm thinking about taking mine apart and selling the bits on ebay to finance a new guitar, I'd happily sell them to a fellow LFSBCer at a (only slightly ;)) reduced price :nod:

[dougie-lampkin]

The graphics card, I have none :D

I hope to get one soon, but I had to get a laptop recently which took a chunk out of my fund...

[TomMK]

The graphics card, I have none :D

I hope to get one soon, but I had to get a laptop recently which took a chunk out of my fund...

I have an ATi 9600 which you are welcome to, would you like it?

[dougie-lampkin]

Are graphics cards tied to any particular motherboard, or are they universal? If it would fit my PC, I would love it! I have a Dell Dimension 5100 if that helps...

[J@tko]

Er, guys, would you mind keeping this on-topic please and keep this e-bay conversation to PM's please?

Cheers :D
(No need to say sorry - just more spam)

[TomMK]

Are graphics cards tied to any particular motherboard, or are they universal? If it would fit my PC, I would love it! I have a Dell Dimension 5100 if that helps...

There are 2 different types of slot that you plug a graphics card into, one is called AGP and the other is called PCI-Express (or PCI-E for short).

The card I have spare is an AGP type. From looking round on the net I believe the Dimension 5100 requires a PCI-E card :(, so its no good.

Sorry (applies to J@tko too, consider my wrist slapped)

[dougie-lampkin]

Ah ok, not to worry, thanks anyway :shrug:

[wee-m8]

Can i please register?

[J@tko]

Can i please register?

Yes, here (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=36949).

[croftyboy2008]

hey there guys,

I never heard of LFS until a month ago when my mate got it.

I am aserious motorsports fan.

I actually have done a bit of vulunteer work at Croftt Circuit in the uk as a marshal, so I have a little hands on experience with regands to flags and racing lines etc.

will be going back to that soon hopefully.

I am interested in taking part in a championship or whatever it is you are running as I am a bit of a beginner when it comes to actual racing and all that.

crofty

[JO53PHS]

hey there guys,

I never heard of LFS until a month ago when my mate got it.

I am aserious motorsports fan.

I actually have done a bit of vulunteer work at Croftt Circuit in the uk as a marshal, so I have a little hands on experience with regands to flags and racing lines etc.

will be going back to that soon hopefully.

I am interested in taking part in a championship or whatever it is you are running as I am a bit of a beginner when it comes to actual racing and all that.

crofty

As mentioned above, you can still join up as a reserve, but be aware that we are half way through the season already.

[dougie-lampkin]

wow, looks like next year we'll have enough for 2 divisions maybe?

[J@tko]

wow, looks like next year we'll have enough for 2 divisions maybe?

:schwitz:

One is bad enough!

We'd use two servers, and combine the results.

But bear in mind 50 people have signed up this year, and the highest grid attendance has been 19.

EDIT: Ah, I see what you're saying! +1

[JO53PHS]

:schwitz:

One is bad enough!

We'd use two servers, and combine the results.

But bear in mind 50 people have signed up this year, and the highest grid attendance has been 19.

EDIT: Ah, I see what you're saying! +1

If we would need two servers, then I assume that the races would be on at the same time...

*cough* admin pass *cough*

[J@tko]

The first season of the LFSBC is now over.The winner, TAYLOR-MANIA, now has a trial with Adaptive Racing. Congrats :thumb:

You can see some videos of the action here (http://www.youtube.com/user/HynDesto)- made by Hyntty.

We had loads of fun, with lots of close action and door-to-door racing. And the competitors learnt alot about League Racing. One of the participants, evilpimp (RP MistaTea) is now competing in the prestigious IGTC. Comgrats and Good Luck to him.

The next LFSBC season will be October time. Hope to see you there :thumbsup:

[J@tko]

Various information and prizewinners:

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=768278#post768278

[J@tko]

Sign-ups for Season 2 are now open:

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=828225#post828225

If you're still not sure whether to enter or not, here's some words from people who competed last season:

‘The LFSBC teaches you that, no matter how slow you think you are, there are always people of your ability to battle against. Racing against, and sometimes beating people who you thought were so much faster than you really feels good.’

‘LFSBC was the first league I'd entered, even though I'd been on S2 for over a year. I didn't really have enough confidence in my own abilities to enter one of the major leagues. So, I signed up, hoping to at least keep up with the backmarkers. After a couple of races though, I found that I could compete on the same level as lots of the other racers. After the series I'd found that there are other racers at the same level as me. Being able to beat others who I thought would be far better than me, was amazing. It's a real confidence booster, and is a great intro to LFS League Racing - I'll certainly be competing again.’

'LFSBC is pretty much the perfect introduction to league racing. The organisers saw something missing in the league scene - something that caters for the new players in LFS. If you're new to LFS and/or new to league racing, then the LFSBC will serve you well for you're first league experience.'

'I think that what I learned the most in LFSBC is the basic rules of racing and sim racing mostly. I liked the great racing it provided with people of my level. It's a great way to get into the LFS league racing world and will teach you how to avoid crashes and how not to make some useless mistakes so that once you get into higher level leagues you don't completly make a fool of yourself. It's really a great introduction to the LFS league racing world and was very helpfull for me. It's also a very friendly league were you make lots of friends and people help eachother a lot to get faster. Now, off course, in the end it's all about the fastest and it's very competitive at times. If you're not fast enough to get first, then aim for a level which you think is good. And that's why I think LFSBC is a great league. You get a level of racing which is almost the same as yours and instead of focusing on being the fastest you focus on giving a good race and not letting other win easily if you can't.'

If you have any questions, PM me or post in the thread linked up there :thumbsup:

To see what fun we had in Season 1, Click here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3300560574515371179&hl=en)or here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1923804621898808767&hl=en)!

[J@tko]

Added another 2 testimonials above.

2 sign-ups so far - keep 'em coming :)

[Mbah]

Are signups still open and can i join if so?

[Rdcranno]

Are signups still open and can i join if so?

Yes, heres the link to the sign up thread http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=829751#post829751

[Mbah]

Thank you rdcranno.

[J@tko]

Yes, thanks.

6 spots taken now - come and join us for some fun :thumbsup:

[AstroBoy]

I is noobz lol just kidding mate good luck with the new season.

[J@tko]

I is noobz lol just kidding mate good luck with the new season.
Thanks.

10 sign-ups so far - just over a month till season start :thumbsup:

[Psmith]

I'm such a beginner I don't even understand the requirements to enter. And that most likely means I don't qualify as a beginner.

I think I'll go play golf... ;)

[J@tko]

I'm such a beginner I don't even understand the requirements to enter. And that most likely means I don't qualify as a beginner.

I think I'll go play golf... ;)

Um, which ones don't you understand?

For the CTRA ones, you need to visit a CTRA Server (either Race 1, Single Seater 1, Bump & Jump or UF-BR) and type in $password to set up an account and start earning points. For the distance one you just need to drive around online alot. For the hotlap one you need to sign in to www.lfsworld.net (http://www.lfsworld.net) and upload a hotlap, within 103% of the WR.

Attain two of those and then you can enter :thumbsup:

But I'm not going to stop you playing golf though :tilt:

10 sign-ups so far - keep 'em coming in - just over a month till season start.

[JO53PHS]

Could you get em to say something on SRT, because 10 sign ups with a month to go is pretty poor, considering that only about 7.5 competitors will turn up :D

Is the LFSBC too much of a n00b event for SRT? :D

[hyntty]

Darn, Joe. I thought of that months ago but forgot to speak up...

Considering they've done other stuff aimed for n00bz, why not take this then?

[J@tko]

Well I think I'm a bit too busy this week, and I go on holiday on Sunday for a fortnight, so I won't be able to do anything I'm afraid.

As long as Joe doesn't do it, I don't mind :)

[dekojester]

Here's a reminder: Just a couple weeks from the first round of the Second Season of the LFS Beginner's Cup.

Signups still open, we've got about 20, still room for more.

Sign up here: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=44319

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[dekojester]

And once again, a reminder, for you newcomers to LFS !

The Season 2 of the Live for Speed Beginner's Cup starts ONE WEEK from Saturday with round one ! THIS Saturday is the Pre-Season Get-Together, where we'll visit the combos of the season. This will also double as Free Practice 1 for Round 1.

You can still sign up ! Entries are open !

Check http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=44319 for the vitals on Entry !

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[J@tko]

We've just had Round 1 of Season 2 of the LFSBC.

Some fantastic racing was enjoyed by all around Blackwood GP in the XFG (well, no-one picked the XRG hehe :razz:)

Next round is Fern Bay Club, in the UF1 - come and join us!

Linkage: http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=178

[IlGuercio]

Nice effort Jatko.
I'd like to join but im crap at driving normal cars,and im too scared to make a mess out of every race.What's more the first race was last sunday...so im not sure,is there any space left?

[J@tko]

Nice effort Jatko.
I'd like to join but im crap at driving normal cars,and im too scared to make a mess out of every race.What's more the first race was last sunday...so im not sure,is there any space left?
Yep - theres still space - sign up via the link up there, click on 'sign ups' :)

[J@tko]

Round 4 of the Live for Speed Beginner's Cup is live on NDR TV.

We might have a commentator too, otherwise you'll just have to make do with Dekojester yelling at Joseph for driving the safety car into darryn (oh wait my plan is foiled!!) ;)

The combo is FOX/Aston National, 20 mins of quali in 10 mins time then 2x 7 lap races.

Linkage: http://newdimensionracing.synthasite.com/ndr-tv.php

[Old Timer]

Hi All
Im a LFS driver in training both in driving and LFS itself,I'd like to have a go at it,I'm replacing my Wingman formula FF with a Momo,I hope it doesn't set me back too much.
Ron (Old Timer)

[J@tko]

Hello Sir.

Check out the big link in my sig, and the associated forums (and our website) for more information :thumb:

[Dizzydarryn]

...
We might have a commentator too, otherwise you'll just have to make do with Dekojester yelling at Joseph for driving the safety car into darryn (oh wait my plan is foiled!!) ;)



bwahahaha... With Josephs antics, i would rather have had him drive into me AGAIN, cause at least that would've meant that he would actually have been there to do his job...

hmmm

[hyntty]

oh yeah... The broadcast file needs to be uploaded in some tube. I wouldn't want to though :schwitz::smileypul

[J@tko]

The final round of the second season of the Live for Speed Beginner's Cup is this coming Saturday, at 8pm GMT.

It's the endurance round, at Aston Historic, using GT2 cars (CTRA restrictions), for 1 hour.

We haven't really had very large grids for some of the rounds so far this season, so we want as many people as possible to come to this round, as otherwise it might become a bit of hot-lapping!

Thus, we are welcoming any Season 1 participants who want to turn up and drive to come along and join us, also any other beginners who wish to join us, so that we have a nice grid. It should be a very good race - the track is not too challenging, and you should have someone to race with. If you wish to participate, click the link in my sig (the sign-ups one (http://tinyurl.com/5p5nwr)), and sign up there. If you are a season 1 participant and want to come, then PM me :)

To find out more information about the series in general, or more about the upcoming Mini-FBM series (http://tinyurl.com/6r6u3d), visit our subforums here on the lfsforum (http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=177) or visit our website (http://tinyurl.com/6ckfjd) :)

Furthermore, if you have any questions, post in this thread, in the LFSBC Q&A thread (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=36305) in the NDR section of the forum, or PM me or Dekojester (http://www.lfsforum.net/private.php?do=newpm&u=122006):)

We hope to see as many of you on Saturday as possible. :thumbsup:

[J@tko]

Season 2 of the Live for Speed Beginner's Cup is now complete.

Congratulations to our series winner Yann Laprevotte (GreyBull [CHA]).

Final standings e.t.c will be posted here soon.

Season 3 will take place in Spring 2009 - hope to see lots of new faces then :)

[Faitness]

I should have S2 by then, looking forward for season 3. :)

[J@tko]

Season 3 Calendar [first draft] released: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1097257#post1097257 :thumb:

[J@tko]

The LFSBC has now been merged with the "New Dimension Racing Challenge"; a new series based upon the successful LFSBC platform, but with two seperate classes for "Beginners" and "Non-Beginners".

Everyone races at the same time, sometimes all the cars are the same and other times the two classes use different cars.

More details to come :thumb:

[bunder9999]

could have seen that coming... :razz:

[jdgracing]

Hey, I'd like to race in a beginner league. I just got S2 about one month ago, and while I'm pretty slow on anything other than Blackwood, I am a very clean racer. Any info on where/how to join up would be cool. :thumb:

[J@tko]

Hey, I'd like to race in a beginner league. I just got S2 about one month ago, and while I'm pretty slow on anything other than Blackwood, I am a very clean racer. Any info on where/how to join up would be cool. :thumb:
Hello.

We'll open sign-ups soon ish, I'll post in here when we do :)

[MAD3.0LT]

yer what is the k's/ miles limit i have only done

Travelled distance:32826
KmFuel burnt:12127
LtrLaps:7504
Hosts joined:747
Races won:192
Second:136Third:114
Finished:687
Qualifications:43
Pole Positions:14
Drags / Wins:239 / 93
am i classed as a beginner?

ps only wanna race FOX no other car they all boring

[JO53PHS]

yer what is the k's/ miles limit i have only done

Travelled distance:32826
KmFuel burnt:12127
LtrLaps:7504
Hosts joined:747
Races won:192
Second:136Third:114
Finished:687
Qualifications:43
Pole Positions:14
Drags / Wins:239 / 93
am i classed as a beginner?

We haven't decided on a mileage limit yet, but you would probably not be classed as a beginner, but you would be welcome to race in the experienced class.




ps only wanna race FOX no other car they all boring

You would probably be best off participating in the IMA Open Wheel Trophy then, because they are desperate for drivers.

http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=248

[jdgracing]

yer what is the k's/ miles limit i have only done

Travelled distance:32826
KmFuel burnt:12127
LtrLaps:7504
Hosts joined:747
Races won:192
Second:136Third:114
Finished:687
Qualifications:43
Pole Positions:14
Drags / Wins:239 / 93
am i classed as a beginner?

ps only wanna race FOX no other car they all boring

haha yeah I don't know how beginner that is compared to my stats:

Travelled distance:3062 Ml
Fuel burnt:1022 Ltr
Laps:1130
Hosts joined:179
Races won:20
Second:22
Third:19
Finished:149
Qualifications:4
Pole Positions:0
Drags / Wins:23 / 5

[pacesetter]

We haven't decided on a mileage limit yet, but you would probably not be classed as a beginner, but you would be welcome to race in the experienced class.




You would probably be best off participating in the IMA Open Wheel Trophy then, because they are desperate for drivers.

http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=248

thanks for the advertisement, :D

[CobhamCC]

Where do i sign up for season 3 Not to quick (cant get set ups right) but i am a clean racer and a noob

[pacesetter]

Where do i sign up for season 3 Not to quick (cant get set ups right) but i am a clean racer and a noob


Hello, I'm involved in a project called the Pole Position Driver Rookie Team, it is for developing drivers, and we're currently recruiting people who need help to progress, if you would like to get involved, pm me, and I'll show you where to apply.

[Heimdaldk]

Hello.

We'll open sign-ups soon ish, I'll post in here when we do :)

I'm really looking forward to this.

I'm pretty new to this, and would love a series where it is possible to have some good race.

I'm driving fair but not so fast yet:)

[J@tko]

Entries for the NDR Live for Speed Beginner's Cup Season 3 are now open. To sign up, visit http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1102847#post1102847, and follow the instructions :thumbsup:

[CasseBent]

would sucking fairly hard, be enough to class me as a beginner?

I see now that it wouldn't, nvm

[JO53PHS]

The first round of LFSBC/NDRC kicks off on Saturday at Blackwood GP. If you want to sign up, it's still not too late to do so.

[BaryCZ]

Hi, I am interested in your begginer competition, but I do not understad what does it mean "An uploaded hotlap within 103% on any combo in the LFSBC calendar". Could you explain it to me, pls? THX

[hyntty]

Hi, I am interested in your begginer competition, but I do not understad what does it mean "An uploaded hotlap within 103% on any combo in the LFSBC calendar". Could you explain it to me, pls? THX

The calendar you find here http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=673989#post673989

Now, to do a hotlap you go to the hotlap mode in lfs (it's the one below singleplayer and multiplayer). Then you do a valid lap (=not hitting any walls etc), save the replay, go to http://www.lfsworld.net and upload your hotlap replay in the "s2 hotlaps" section.

The 103% means your hotlap must be within 103 % of the current world record. For example the wr for XFG/BL1 is a 1:33.00 by 2old4this5hit, so if you decide to do your hotlap with the XFG @ Blackwood GP you need to reach the target time of 1:35.79

[BaryCZ]

thank you and one more question, where can I find a car classes? STD, TBO, TB and so on? I found only FR, TBO, LRF, FWD-GTR and RWD-GTR :(

[J@tko]

thank you and one more question, where can I find a car classes? STD, TBO, TB and so on? I found only FR, TBO, LRF, FWD-GTR and RWD-GTR :(
STD = XFG+XRG
TBO = RB4+FXO+XRT
LRF = FZ5+RAC+LX6
GTR = FXR+FZR+XRR
:thumb:

[piasekwp]

I want join this cup. Can I join?

[GreyBull [CHA]]

I want join this cup. Can I join?

No you can't. You need to buy S2 first.:thumbsup:

[piasekwp]

;1138236']No you can't. You need to buy S2 first.:thumbsup:

I have S2.

[hyntty]

Then you need to post with your s2 account here, because it's against the forum rules to have multiple accounts.

[piasekwp]

I understand. Thanks

[BenjiMC]

Then you need to post with your s2 account here, because it's against the forum rules to have multiple accounts.
since when?

[hyntty]

since when?

I have got no idea why/when. You should ask the moderators/developers who delete these accounts.

[Uke]

I've being looking for a good thingy for my first league and this could be it...

Is this still running/can i still join it? Oh, and what time are the races? (GMT+3:00]?

[J@tko]

Indeed, we had Round 2 a few weeks ago, still 6 more to go :)

Here is our sub-forum section: http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=178

You need to be on server at about 6.15 GMT, so that's 9.15 your time. The races will be done by about 10.45 :thumb:

[Uke]

am or pm?

[J@tko]

Sorry - PM :thumb:

[Uke]

And one more question. do I have to be very good or something?

Becouse im not so good.

[GreyBull [CHA]]

And one more question. do I have to be very good or something?

Becouse im not so good.

No you don't have to. You can be as slow as you want, as long as you are clean and friendly.:smileypul

[jelston]

Can I join in the middle of the beginners cup?

(If so I'll get S2 for this account)

[JO53PHS]

Yes :nod:

[Uke]

Err... Where can i signup?

[GreyBull [CHA]]

Err... Where can i signup?

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=55195

[neil_1980]

I've had S2 for a couple of years but hardly ever played it and have very limited online racing with it (1758 miles over a few years lol)

Will there be a similar beginners league like this again after this one has finished?

[hyntty]

Will there be a similar beginners league like this again after this one has finished?

Most probably in the autumn. What exactly is wrong with this one? You _can_ sign up during the season as well.

[neil_1980]

I assumed you'd have to wait till a new one started rather than joining mid way... if that's the case I'd better start getting some laps in :)