TEST Patch X30 (to X38)

[Scawen]

WARNING : THIS IS A TEST

Hello Racers.

Here is a new incompatible test patch X30 (to X38).

It contains the Formula BMW, track updates, improved AI and physics. All changes are listed below.

Changes in TEST PATCH X38 :

FIXES :

InSim bind error on restart after auto update
Host reverted to 5 laps regardless of initialisation
AI could not park after race at Westhill or AS Cadet

Changes in TEST PATCH X37 :

AI :

AI drive more slowly to deal with damaged car
Improved decisions to make pit stop for damage repair
Improved AI speed and fuel estimates on rallycross tracks
Mid race join AI consider lead car laps for must pit rule
Improved pit stop box decisions to reduce pit lane mayhem
FIX : AI driving too fast into Oval / Westhill pit lanes
FIX : AI crashed entering Blackwood rallycross pit lane
FIX : AI could keep driving in pit stop state if knocked

Language :

Latvian translation completed and included
FIX : Codepage of rename and delete buttons in save dialog

Fern Bay :

Tyre stacks added to stop cutting Rallycross Green Turn 1

South City :

Graphical updates and fixes

Changes in TEST PATCH X36 :

Clutch :

Clutch heating restored to X33 level
Stronger clutches in some cars based on engine inertia
Changed cars : UF1 / XFG / XRG / LX4 / LX6 / FZ5

AI :

FIX : KYoto National pit path was reversed

Changes in TEST PATCH X34 / X35 :

AI :

FIX : Updated Kyoto Oval and National pit lane paths
FIX : AI reported obsolete help flags GC_CUT and GC_BLIP

Auto update system :

Patch files are not deleted until user answers "Restart?"

Interface :

LFS icon now appears at top left of an LFS window
Speedo (both types) improved text size and aspect ratio
Loading a grid no longer loads qualify time / laps / wind
FIX : Load grid / drag strip could result in too many laps

Graphics :

FIX : XRG / XRT / XRR showed sky at bottom of side mirrors

Physics :

Reduced clutch heating by 25%
Tyres / clutch cool down even if the car is out of physics

Language :

Latvian language included (nearly finished - please test)

Changes in TEST PATCH X33 :

Views :

One button look is now adjustable from 30 to 90 degrees
FIX : Bug in mouse look system (was based on old range)

Interface :

Auto updater checks to see if patch is already downloaded
LFS switches to window on entry if it does not have focus
Increased size of text on speedo when km/h option selected
Updated icon with 16x16, 32x32, 48x48 and 64x64 resolution
FIX : Axis display shrinks to stay on screen for many axes
FIX : Translatable damage text was shown in Latin codepage

Training :

All texts resaved so there should be no missing text now
Included Brazilian Portuguese training translations

AI :

AI never refuelled during a practice session
AI stay more within their limits when driving in pit lanes
FIX : AI in BF1 would fail to slow down for KY1 pit lane

Changes in TEST PATCH X32 :

Physics :

FIX : Puncture remained even if tyres were replaced
FIX : Moved objects could reappear inside stationary cars

Interface :

Updated LFS icon in LFS.exe - thanks to ORION
FIX : Hotlap replay started timer at start of replay
FIX : MPR with licensed track causeD LFS demo to crash
FIX : Horn / flash did not work after engine switched off
FIX : Car with engine off got stuck after /pitlane command

AI :

AI should stay within limits on rumble and bad surfaces
AI paths regenerated taking account of bad surfaces
FIX : AI would get speed penalty in various pit lanes
FIX : AI would not pit to repair worn or punctured tyre
FIX : AI would never pit during practice or a timed race
FIX : AI would drive backwards at the drag strip

Training :

FIX : Some more lesson text files updated
FIX : Driving out of bounds could result in being stuck

South City :

Texture updates
Graphical updates
Fixes for reported bugs

Changes in TEST PATCH X31 :

Various fixes, mainly in the interface and lessons.
A lot of known issues have been noted and not yet fixed.

Controllers :

Moved recalibrate axes and added new lock / unlock buttons
FIX : Mouse axes could not be used without game controller
FIX : Multiple controllers did not work in several cases
FIX : Recalibrate axes button set all axes to "X axis"

Interface :

Added translation slots for "UPR" "LWR" "TOE" and "CT"
FIX : Wrong fuel estimate for XF GTR at SO City Long REV
FIX : Error message when spawning AI with no car selected
FIX : File association .set copied setup to wrong folder
FIX : Comments for /autokick in dedicated host setup.cfg
FIX : Start new host screen did not allow BF1 selection
FIX : Crash entering Driver screen with no car selected
FIX : Included script file for Formula BMW (FBM.lfs)

Training :

Reset old lesson results for new set of training lessons
FIX : RaceAbout could not be loaded in a training lesson
FIX : Various small text errors in training lessons

Graphics :

FIX : Path rubber could be updated far out of bounds
FIX : Path rubber could sometimes go too far in to apex

Changes from X10 to X30 :

Content :

New demo car : Formula BMW FB02
Removed XR GT Turbo car from demo
Chicane route added to South City

AI :

AI can now drive faster and can deal with changing car
AI can drive out of pit garage for qualify or practice
Can now make pit stops for fuel / damage / must pit rule
No longer stop and reset to repair their car (pit instead)
Save and load functions for start grid in single player

Physics :

Engine moment of inertia increased in all cars
Handbrake is now applied at the start in hotlap mode
Gear change auto throttle cut and blip options removed
Manual clutch is now fully manual and engines can stall
Improved simulation of sequential and h-pattern gearboxes
Live anti roll and brake balance only allowed on race cars
Redline rpm and rev limiter rpm point reduced in all cars
RB4 - reduced mass by 18 kg / FXO - reduced tyre width
FXO GTR - reduced mass by 20 kg to improve GTR balance
GTR class also balanced by engine / gearboxes changes
Racing tyres generate more heat and wear more quickly
Clutch overheating system and display in F9 / F10
FIX : Error in position of wind resistance centre

South City :

Many graphical updates and new configuration added
Kerb construction modified making wall collisions safer
JPG textures now used for adverts (data\pic\SO_ADSx.jpg)

Blackwood :

Slightly narrower track and various graphical updates
Modified chicane and section after main straight
JPG textures now used for adverts (data\pic\BL_ADSx.jpg)

Fern Bay :

Fixes / pit lane cameras / removed large bridge adverts
JPG textures now used for adverts (data\pic\FE_ADSx.jpg)

Views :

Adjustable cockpit view position for each car
Left / right one button look functions now 45 degrees
Left + right two button look functions now 90 degrees
Look behind button in road cars - look back from centre
Look behind button in racing cars - show virtual mirror
FIX : Forced cockpit view now only affects your own car
FIX : Skid marks and rubber are now visible through screen

Multiplayer :

Maximum size of config file (setup.cfg) doubled to 4 KB
Command /spec X can be used by guests to remove AI drivers
Time between reset and race start increased by six seconds
Added "cruise" option and filter (allows wrong way driving)
FIX : Remote clutch was pressed while shift paddle was held
FIX : Lap timers did not work after /pitlane X or /pit_all
FIX : Vulnerabilities that allowed a server to be crashed

Interface :

Damage repair is now a selectable option
Pit stop damage repair takes twice as long
Engines are no longer repaired in pit stops
Pit stop still continues after car is nudged
Added some missing commands to the /help text
Can now drive up to 1 km/h over the speed limit
Redline display on tacho now has maximum accuracy
Press 4 key to see a racing line for any viewed car
Show racing line is disallowed in hotlapping and FCV
Can Reset and Must Pit added as single player options
New command /entry - makes LFS return to entry screen
Fuel per lap estimate now shown in pits - info section
Added Bridgestone and Avon tyre manufacturers in setups
Dashboard fuel displays now shown as % instead of litres
Setup and colour config files now use three letter prefix
Autocross layouts can now be selected in the track screen
Removed digital speedo option - now depends on type of car
Pit Stop fuel is now the fuel amount to be added at pit stop
Best lap time is now shown at top right during a normal race
Downforce distribution now shown in pits - downforce section
Tips page updated to include a new tip and remove an old one
FIX : Virtual dash appeared when viewing a remote undrawn car
FIX : All pressed keys are now released when LFS loses focus
FIX : CTRL + SHIFT tried to show user names in single player
FIX : Sound and controller issues when changing screen mode
FIX : Comma could not be used to enter interface scale

Sound :

Included new default sounds for BF1 / FZ5 / FZR / FOX
Sound is now switched off while changing screen resolution

Training :

Included new full pack of training lessons
Can now hit objects after completing the lesson
Racing line is drawn on ground in test drive lessons
Pressing ESC in test drive lessons results in a pass
Message is shown on screen if you hit a car overtaking
No penalty for hitting objects in Test Drive lessons
Enter key can now be used to press any green button
Removed countdown and info text at start of lesson

InSim :

FIX : Zero degrees FOV in CPP could cause LFS to crash
FIX : InSim - CCI_FIRST / CCI_LAST not set if player in pits

Changes from X to X10 :

Interface :

Available start grid size now shown in game setup screen
Results table now shows user names if you press CTRL+SHIFT
Improved positioning of 3d menu objects (drivers and cars)
Display positioning support in Options->Display->Interface
Added buttons to reset position and size of moved interface
Analogue steer smooth max raised to 0.95 (to help gamepads)
Faster downloading system for auto update and offline skins
FIX : Autocross timing info turned orange after any results
FIX : ALT+F4 and /exit command now exit from meeting room

Graphics :

Minor optimisation in 2d display system
Optimised wide screen effect by using a viewport
Optimised mirror draw by using a narrow viewport
Removed missing lines of 2d elements at screen edges
Graphics option : 32 bit sky (32 bit is now default)
Improved texture purging code (avoiding possible crash)
FIX : Shift light was invisible in single player replays
FIX : GetPlateHandle message could come up on a busy host

Multiplayer :

Added new multiplayer option : force cockpit view
Removed full hosts filter from List of Games screen
Moved cones and physics objects are restored more quickly
Added handicaps / start position / user name to MPR header
Show time and date of MPR by holding CTRL+SHIFT during replay
FIX : It was possible for any guest to cause a host to crash
FIX : A player is connecting stayed on after MPR finished
FIX : Command /end did not work if no players in race
FIX : Wrong way autokick did not work

InSim / Programmers :

Username is now saved in SP Replays
Driver model byte added to IS_NPL packet
Minimum MCI / NLP time interval reduced to 50 ms
New packet IS_AXO sent when an autocross object is hit
New packets IS_AXI and IS_AXC report layout information
FIX : Guests could not see ALWAYS_ON buttons in all screens
FIX : Guests sent corrupted data in a long IS_BTT packet
FIX : Dedicated host could not fill in split nodes info
FIX : Dedicated host did not report race positions

DOWNLOAD :

PATCH X30 (Version X must already be installed) :
www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_PATCH_X_TO_X30.exe (64 MB)

AFTER X30 IS INSTALLED, update to X38 with the auto updater - just click Multiplayer... List of Hosts

DEDICATED HOST (for hosting only) :
www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_S2_DEDI_X38.zip

[mcintyrej]

Gotcha first post!

THANKS SCAWEN! *e-hug*

[GruntOfAction]

Removed XR GT Turbo car from demo


FTW!!

2nd post ftw! :D

[jegorchangai]

Freaking Nice

[chanoman315]

3rd post! thanks scawen!

[Mc21]

Sweet :D

[ReppohC]

wooo

[EmilO]

Great! :)

Edit: LOL quadruple post @17:46

[DC2]

Thanks :D

[Matt0snap]

Yayy!!

BTW: Third post... Finally managed to find a test patch thread in the same day it was released :razz:

EDIT: ur Kidding 6 posts in a minute... :)

[Mr.Muh]

Amazing changes, more than i ever dreamed of, great :thumb:

[GruntOfAction]

3rd post! thanks scawen!

4th for you actually..

[ATHome]

Hooray :D

[Nadeo4441]

:leb:

New demo car : Formula BMW FB02
Removed XR GT Turbo car from demo

well... demo drifting is over :scratchch

[james12s]

amazing, scawen we love you,lol

[Nakkitartsani]

Finally! :)

[MyBoss]

Sweeeeeeet.

Maybe I'l start playing again now :D

[unseen]

Thank you, Mr. Roberts. Much appreciated. :thumb:

[Drift King CZ]

That means, end of demo drifters? Will be the XRT removed from demo forever?

[tonyonparas]

Thanks man!
This is a good x-mas present from the devs:thumb:

[mcintyrej]

I can't unlock S2? :schwitz::x

Cannot Connect To Master Server.

[sinbad]

Some good pit and pitstop changes in there. Thankyou :)

[GruntOfAction]

That means, end of demo drifters? Will be the XRT removed from demo forever?

Encourages demo'ers to buy S2..

[Thunderhead]

That means, end of demo drifters? Will be the XRT removed from demo forever?

I certainly hope so.

Though, I'm not happy for the fact that demoers get the new beemer.

Probably the licence agreement....but hey, nothing can be perfect.:tilt:

[chanoman315]

lets start to make sets! inferno :(

[diablo21]

Thank You.

[EmilO]

I can't unlock S2? :schwitz::x

Cannot Connect To Master Server.
Same here :(

[LFSn00b]

YESH! Downloading... cantwaitcantwait :D

Thanks for taking the XRT off from demo too, but the drifers would take XRG :/



100kb/s... Slooooooooow :(

[ajp71]

I think removing the XRT from the demo was a great idea, means there's more reason to buy S2 for those who want a powerful RWD road car (which is most of the drifters) and will hopefully reduce the amount of noobish demo users improving the quality of racing. I also think adding a wings + slicks car is a good idea because it gives experienced sim racers a good benchmark to compare to ;)

[DevilDare]

nice woooooho!

[Drift King CZ]

Encourages demo'ers to buy S2..I know, but will be 80% less drifters.

[St4Lk3R]

New demo car : Formula BMW FB02
Removed XR GT Turbo car from demo
w00t! Thats the last thing I ever thought you'd do. You keep surprising us. :D:D

[james12s]

Same here :(
probably overload

[tristancliffe]

I think I love every single change (apart from the driving line, which I'll reserve judgement on). Digital speedo, pitlane speeding, gearboxes, clutch, views... all good. Shame that damage is now non-fixable as there doesn't appear to be any incentive to not tap people out of the race (unless damage has more effect on the car)...

But all good. Love it. Love LFS!

[Nathan_French_14]

Hoorayyyyyyy!!!!!!!! Woooooooo

[jegorchangai]

I know, but will be 80% less drifters.

Since when is that a bad thing :D

[sinbad]

My download has stalled big time.

[R34GTR]

Fantastic Scawen, going to try now :)

[EmilO]

300kb/s down :D

[NotAnIllusion]

Removed XR GT Turbo car from demo
Time to prevent legacy hosts from working online? :p

[tristancliffe]

Bloody big patch (in terms of LFS patches!)

800kb/s though :)

[Tribe]

dwnloading now gunna try it on LTC RACE

[F3ckB9LL]

Thank you :) :thumb:

[Dawn of the Death]

Nice, and very big thx!
Im Downloading it, can't wait :)

[sinbad]

Restarted it and getting good speed.

[LFSn00b]

I cant take this :| steady 75 kb/s and 5 mins left... AARGH!!!

[K.David]

I will only install patch Y but man there are a lot of changes! One of my favourites is being able to turn off damage repair, that is an extremely important addition. I have mixed feelings for replacing the XRT with the BMW but I guess that's what the contract says :)

This Christmas is gonna be a memorable one. THANK YOU DEVS!

[shiny_red_cobra]

What's the point of removing the XRT from the demo? Now all the demoers will simply play the old version where the XRT was available...:shrug:

[RacerAsh3]

<3 to scawen!

[BlakjeKaas]

What's the point of removing the XRT from the demo? Now all the demoers will simply play the old version where the XRT was available...:shrug:

What about making a Force-autoupdate for patch X to Y... =P

[jegorchangai]

For the people who cant download from the LFS mirror:

http://rapidshare.com/files/75638031/LFS_PATCH_X_TO_X30.exe

[chanoman315]

demoers will get the fbmw???????? it says new demo car: formula bmw :shrug: someone confirm this plss

[johnfromsunnymull]

Yes cant wait omg loads of changes!

[StewartFisher]

Shame that damage is now non-fixable as there doesn't appear to be any incentive to not tap people out of the race (unless damage has more effect on the car)...

Really?

Interface :

Damage repair is now a selectable option
Pit stop damage repair takes twice as long
Engines are no longer repaired in pit stops

[AndroidXP]

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

[Mikkel Petersen]

I think it's great that they've exchanged the FBM with the XRT. Less drifters, and it will attract more "real" racers. And now I don't want to hear no more talk about that LFS dosen't have real cars. :really:

[EmilO]

This Patch is GREAT!

[LFSn00b]

DOWNLOADED! I really like the new course... :-)

[mathew4445]

Yea me too lol!

Why is it so damn big??!?
5.7mb of 64.0mb. (Just noticed the number, Exactly 64? 64bit? lol)
7.02kb/sec 2hrs 21mins remain.. DAMIT!

[tikshow]

demoers will get the fbmw???????? it says new demo car: formula bmw :shrug: someone confirm this plss
i think this is only for testing

[Motörhead V8]

nice :nod:

downloading

[chanoman315]

i think this is only for testing
:schwitz::schwitz:
the fbmw for demo races is a lot... really a lot... :(:(

[Mikkel Petersen]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand 696 online users at the forum. I think we will beat the existing record. :smileypul

[tristancliffe]

Really?

Exactly.

Hit people in race (causing you damage, but not suspension damage, so your speed is 100% unaffected). Turn off repair. Pit (quickly). Continue.

To me, it means that Scawen will need to improve how damage slows cars down in the next patch to avoid people doing this (which I bet some will - the nice ones won't of course).

[NotAnIllusion]

:schwitz::schwitz:
the fbmw for demo races is a lot... really a lot... :(:(
Well, perhaps. However it would balance out the type of demo content a bit, considering there are 2 quite similar cars and no race cars at all.

[Hollywood]

I love the change so that we don't have to fix damage. However, it would be nice to have a version of the "reset" command that would solely put the car back on it's 4 wheels and give it a slight push. This would be like track workers pushing a car, or rolling it back over (at least for tin tops).

[zeugnimod]

It won't let me unlock.

No connection to the master server. :weeping:

Forget it. Worked now. :D

[Dajmin]

Ouch! No XRT for demo users! That's gonna hurt the cheapo drifters a LOT :)

And seperate JPGs for adverts? Is that the start of a new scheme to stream updated sponsors regularly? Not a bad idea if it is.

A damage repair toggle!

This is just like a list of things people have been asking about for ages finally enabled. Can't wait to see what this does to the world :)

[Danielw597]

WooT! :)

[GruntOfAction]

Ouch! No XRT for demo users! That's gonna hurt the cheapo drifters a LOT :)

And seperate JPGs for adverts? Is that the start of a new scheme to stream updated sponsors regularly? Not a bad idea if it is.

A damage repair toggle!

This is just like a list of things people have been asking about for ages finally enabled. Can't wait to see what this does to the world :)

It means people can make their own adverts..lol..

Im gonna make a few later today :D

[AndroidXP]

I think replacing the XRT with the FB02 for demo is quite good overall. It balances the demo content, so finally demo users can also experience slicks and downforce, albeit only in its slowest form. Of course the "bad" side is that the new content probably adds another few years of free enjoyment, but on the grand scale the high popularity of the demo servers probably pays off more than "losing" customers due to giving too good demo content. :thumbsup:

[supra_946]

When i go to open up x30 it says Could not open file : data\skins\HEL_DEFAULT.jpg :shrug:

Add me on msn - rocketmandan_946@hotmail.com or post here ;P

[tristancliffe]

If you stall in the pits, can they restart you? Just tried it in the BF1, and it says (despite being in my garage) No starter motor... Surely the crew would start the car (with a delay)?

Edit: And after a race, the AI drive back to their garage - how splendid!!!!

[spankmeyer]

If you stall in the pits, can they restart you? Just tried it in the BF1, and it says (despite being in my garage) No starter motor... Surely the crew would start the car (with a delay)?

Or in case you stall your car in pit box, a primitive dog sprite raises from the bottom of the screen to laugh at you?

[Renku]

Racing in hidden server, just got 'FATAL NET ERROR : NETCON'.
And /w PB, /w HL etc doesn't work.

[EmilO]

Did everything go down or is it me?

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

Stupid job.... 7 more hours.... blah

hmm, maybe I don't feel well...

Can someone post a screenshot of the F9/F10 screens?

Thank you Scawen!

[Kostek]

XRT out of demo - yeah!
FBM in demo - nay! Why give demo users SUCH a present?

[LFSn00b]

Could someone try to kick me from lfs.se X30 server? i've shut down my LFS, but it says im on the server now, wont let me connect to master server

[EmilO]

Could someone try to kick me from lfs.se X30 server? i've shut down my LFS, but it says im on the server now, wont let me connect to master server
same here!

[joeynuggetz]

Can I not use my H-Shifter with the new BMW? I've tried everything.

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

@ Andreas Not necessarily, and sounds great for balancing turbo lag with none ;)
Some GTR Cars have H's and some of sequentials IRL. Excellent way to balance IMO.

edit: @ above: the new car does not have a H box, so you can't use your H.

[LiMiTED]

Master Server down?

[Mp3 Astra]

I don't know what to do without auto clutch and throttle blip! I use a mouse (until Christmas) and I'm not sure what to do, as my engine keeps going potty when I change gear too much.

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

EHEHE, Lift when shift :D

[uttoro]

Thanx Scavier!!!

[PLAYLIFE]

Or in case you stall your car in pit box, a primitive dog sprite raises from the bottom of the screen to laugh at you?

+1

[Scawen]

I moved three bug reports into the correct thread.

Please remember to make bug reports in the special bug report threads or your reports will end up lost among a thousand posts.

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[nesrulz]

Thx for X30!:hyper:

[johnfromsunnymull]

I dont have any track changes?

[EmilO]

All my setups are gone?

[Mp3 Astra]

All my setups are gone?

Apparently we have to change the car name in setups to the 3 letter version of the car name :shrug:
And in the "setups" folder?

[tristancliffe]

I dont have any track changes?

Yes you do.

All my setups are gone?

Are they still in the settings folder?

[johnfromsunnymull]

Erm...But ithought there were more Combos on SO and changed to the chicane on BL1?

[Scawen]

Old setups work, you do need to rename them and move them from the "settings" folder to the new "setups" folder.

Colours and setups now have their own folders.

The three letter name will help with downloading systems which had problems with car names containing a space.

[tristancliffe]

There are. And they work here. If they don't for you you have installed it wrong.

[EmilO]

Ive put them in the Setups folder but they don't show up''

Edit: rename to? :tilt:

[tristancliffe]

Ive put them in the Setups folder but they don't show up

Rename them so they are BF1_blah.set

[Mp3 Astra]

Ive put them in the Setups folder but they don't show up

3 letter car prefix required. EG BF1 instead of BMW Sauber

[johnfromsunnymull]

Ok....sorry i do have them :D.!

[Dark Elite]

Excellent, I've been waiting and waiting - well, haven't we all?

This list of updates looks simply fantastic, a lot of little things that have been annoying me have been fixed - even though I'd never have thought of ways around them. Great work, guys. Downloading now :D

Sam

[Mr.Muh]

A lot of work :really:

And do we have clutchless shift now? Strange..

[Bladerunner]

:wmann3:MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!:wmann3:
:bowdown:Santa Scawen delivers again!!!:drink:

[EmilO]

Rename them so they are BF1_blah.set
ooo Great ive got 1073 setups to rename then.. :D

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

@ Mr Huh: It's not strange for that type of trans, remember what's being simulated.

[Gil07]

DL taking ages :D

[joeynuggetz]

@ Andreas Not necessarily, and sounds great for balancing turbo lag with none ;)
Some GTR Cars have H's and some of sequentials IRL. Excellent way to balance IMO.

edit: @ above: the new car does not have a H box, so you can't use your H.

Thats what I thought but I didn't notice any pedals modeled in the cockpit. Good to know tho.

[pine-fin]

Haha.. sequential with manual clutch, xfg ran 3 laps and clutch died. Obviously I'm doing it wrong :scratchch

[Koopa]

Dawm this is the first time im gonna say that i dont like the improvements with this patch, its the clutch and the shifting....

This way of shifting doesnt feel LFSischhh... Maybe more real life, but somehow i cant say i like this way of shifting... I can see Logitech has a share in LFS now... This is gonna cost us alot of pedal boxes... :scratchch:D

Anyways i dont like this way of shifting....

Rest of the patch is ok sofar....

[Mp3 Astra]

I just bought a DFP... It has no clutch... Good timing :(

Apart from that, great patch

[Niggo]

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWW WWWWWWWW (*dixie horn*) :D:schwitz::D:schwitz::D:smileypul:smileypul:smile ypul:smileypul:scratchch:scratchch:thumbsup::thumb sup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::):)

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

@ Koopa Give it more than 10 minutes :razz:

If people don't like it; I am bound to love it :D

Change is good, and I suspect in this case great!

[Gil07]

I just bought a DFP... It has no clutch... Good timing :(

Apart from that, great patch

You could get another cheapo £5 wheel and use one of its pedals as clutch...

[SpikeyMarcoD]

Is the main server down. Have the firewall exceptions installed. Trying to unlock. First mistyped pw and it told me so. Now it wont connect.

EDIT: now it works...maybe a bug i had to get out of the unlock menu and back in after my faulty login attempt.

[Mp3 Astra]

You could get another cheapo £5 wheel and use one of its pedals as clutch...

Brilliant idea!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
I might ask you how to do that when it comes to the time.
Also, found a batch file renamer for anyone who is struggling with renaming 8000000 setups:

http://www.filerenamer.net/batch-file-renamer.htm?gclid=CIiggN-hnpACFQp7PAodRmzw8g

Although after a few files you'll have to register it. Stupid thing.

[xandul]

Thank you VERY much, for this Christmaspresent, Scawen!!!!!!

[Gil07]

Brilliant idea!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
I might ask you how to do that when it comes to the time.
Also, found a batch file renamer for anyone who is struggling with renaming 8000000 setups:

http://www.filerenamer.net/batch-file-renamer.htm?gclid=CIiggN-hnpACFQp7PAodRmzw8g

I haven't tried it, but it shouldn't be too hard. Thanks for that renamer :D

[atledreier]

YAya!


Downloading!

[joen]

Goody goody goody ! :D :thumbsup:

Thanks a lot devs, seems like a great step forward! Great job by Eric on Blackwood and South City. It feels and looks so much more polished now. SO feels more spacious because of the improved scenery. Good updates to the external camera positions too, no more cars hidden behind walls anymore and it looks much more dynamic. Texturing is much much better also. The FB02 looks great, loving the cockpit. What can I say, lots of new stuff to experience, thanks a lot for your hard work and dedication. Cheers! :thumbsup:

[ste_]

Old setups work, you do need to rename them and move them from the "settings" folder to the new "setups" folder.

Colours and setups now have their own folders.

The three letter name will help with downloading systems which had problems with car names containing a space.
Is there a list of what we should use in place of the old way? Couldn't this be automated to save all us end-users some legwork?

[Mc21]

3 letter car prefix required. EG BF1 instead of BMW Sauber


thats gonna take bloody ages lol

[tristancliffe]

Is there a list of what we should use in place of the old way? Couldn't this be automated to save all us end-users some legwork?

The car codes - XRG_, BF1_, RAC_ etc.

Automated would be nice I admit, but I needed to update my setups anyway. Hopefully the Inferno setup field will do it automatically soon, and I can download the latest setups en masse with the right codes...

[Rdcranno]

Is the main server down. Have the firewall exceptions installed. Trying to unlock. First mistyped pw and it told me so. Now it wont connect.

EDIT: now it works...maybe a bug i had to get out of the unlock menu and back in after my faulty login attempt.

It wont let me login aswell, i typed what i thought was my password but it says its not correct. :( Ive tried to change my pass on my settings but it wont work either. Is this happening to anyone else... :scratchch

[edit] had a run around on the demo in the fbmw... its great Good Job the Devs.

[Cue-Ball]

I'm at work and haven't had the chance to try the new patch yet. Can anyone give impressions of the new tire physics? Does longitudinal grip seem improved?

[AndroidXP]

Is it just me or does the FFB feel a lot more alive now? Especially on the now much bumpier South City. Anyway, from my first impressions this patch is AWESOME and a huge step into the right direction. Oh god the joy! :D :D :D

[mrodgers]

Stupid job.... 7 more hours.... blah
Yup <cough cough>

Unfortunately, I have 1 sick day and 2 vacation days left that I'm saving up for the final week of work before Christmas. Oh, and I have 3 weeks paid off for Christmas. Gonna be many nights up until 5 am playing with the patch me thinks.

December 19 through January 10th, LFS patch Y fever for me :D.

EDIT: I'm reading comments about not being able to race without a clutch. Is the autoclutch completely gone now? You have to have a clutch pedal or use a button? Am I reading that right? Or do you only need a button clutch for the starts/spins?

[Electrik Kar]

I don't know what to do without auto clutch and throttle blip! I use a mouse (until Christmas) and I'm not sure what to do, as my engine keeps going potty when I change gear too much.

I like this. It's making me use the clutch now, was a bit too lazy to do it beforehand.

Thanks Scawen for the new patch. A lot of great changes in here. :thumbsup:

[LiMiTED]

i prefer the tool "Total Commander" for renaming all the names ;)

google it ;)

[JO53PHS]

In a word. Great!!!!!

I have a few questions though

1)When you say about digital speedo depending on type of car, will i still be able to select a analogue version for any car or will the speedo option be fixed depending on the car. Because im not a big fan of digital speedos.

2)Is this the official 'The patch will be released before xmas' release or is this just a test version? (i know it says it is a test in scawens post but im not clear about it). Is this the finished patch or will there be a final release of the finished patch soon.

Yay - you can stall the car now
Boo - i need to cut/blip on up/down shift - ill get the hang of it soon:)

[Mr.Muh]

@ Mr Huh: It's not strange for that type of trans, remember what's being simulated.


Oh right, i get it :)
I just burnt my automatic clutch after 8 laps of South City and it feels great :thumb:

[SpikeyMarcoD]

AI drivers cant drive in windy conditions yet :D

[aroX123]

I cant start my LFS!

Only a BLACk SCREEN coming:really:
What to do?!

[wien]

Wow. The new South City looks absolutely gorgeous. So much subtle detail. Love the shadows too even though they are rather simplistic technically. They add so much depth to the scene now that the poly-count has gone up. A little bit disappointed Chicane Route didn't have a new section in it, but that is easily forgiven. :) Looked like there were the beginnings of a new track section off the side of the highway so maybe for S2 final? :tilt:

I also enjoy the changes to Blackwood. Since it's narrower it has a more club-racingy feel to it now and that really fits the surrounding scenery.

Big thumbs up all around. :)

[Gil07]

i prefer the tool "Total Commander" for renaming all the names ;)

google it ;)

Thanks, cause the other had a limit of 250 files :(

[paddy_racer]

I can't unlock S2? :schwitz::x

Cannot Connect To Master Server.

same here

[josemspain]

if you try to change gear on BMW, you must to stop trottling to do it, if you keep full trottle, you cant change gear..

[EmilO]

Bloody hell i will sit up all night changing setup names.. :schwitz:

[Dajmin]

"Driver model byte added to IS_NPL packet"

Does that mean we're going to get the ability to force a racing suit model on for servers that don't want to see the hacked model?

[deggis]

I'm at work and haven't had the chance to try the new patch yet. Can anyone give impressions of the new tire physics? Does longitudinal grip seem improved?
is it improved? Only thing in the feature list is: "Racing tyres generate more heat and wear more quickly"

Don't know because still downloading.

[johnfromsunnymull]

Hey guys try connecting NOW :D. Also how can i get my old setups back?

John

PS its ok :D

[Mp3 Astra]

i prefer the tool "Total Commander" for renaming all the names ;)

google it ;)

Much better. :thumbsup:

[needforspeeyy]

Same here :(
same here os -_-

[EESA]

Thx is good ;)

[EmilO]

Much better. :thumbsup:
How does that work?

[joen]

wow, I just watched the AI take it to the streets and they certainly have improved BIG TIME, you can tell right from the start.

[Mp3 Astra]

How does that work?

Download, install, find the folder, select all files you want to rename, go to "Files">"Multi-Rename Tool" and it should be simple from there. Just find and replace.

[Cue-Ball]

is it improved? Only thing in the feature list is: "Racing tyres generate more heat and wear more quickly"

Don't know because still downloading.I'm not sure. I thought that the tires were going to get some changes for this patch, but with the addition of the BMW I'm not sure if that happened or not.

[StableX]

why have the skin names been changed in this beta from FormulaXR_ to FOX?

All the dloaded skins and my skins now don't work. Seems like that is creating a huge amount of work for everyone to change that....

[LFSn00b]

Hm, i saw 3 new layouts in my lyt folder, the LX Month lyts. I didnt download them anywhere... they just... came somewhere :P

[unseen]

Saaaweeet. This feels like a new game. My head is spinning trying to take it all in :D

Just had some quick runs round BL and SO and am posting some initial impressions.

FFB definitely feels much better. Kerbs/rumbles actually do vibrate massively now, and collisions feel a lot more solid than before.

Now there`s a 45 degree side view, I`ve finally been able to move my cockpit FOV down to a more realistic looking angle, rather than the distant arcadey view I had before (so i could see my mirrors in all cars). As a result, the speeds feel totally different, and the track graphics now appear big and daunting. :thumb:

I`ve not managed a single lap so far without burning out my clutch, so that`s going to take some getting used to. The stalling is fun, but needing to hit the ignition button twice (off then on) is a bit annoying, maybe a bug, maybe it just simulates resetting the switches and restarting the engine?

The new SO looks really nice, although still uses low res textures as do the new BL graphics (although Mr Kar and myself will no doubt be updating them pretty damn soon)

Before I dive back in, I`m not too sure about the new FBMW. It seems just like a restricted FOX. I`ll need to try it more but it actually "feels" slower than the MRT....

..Oh yeah. The AI still love ignoring you and battering you off the track at full speed. I was kinda hoping that had gone :S

Still. I`m loving the new experience so far.

[EmilO]

Download, install, find the folder, select all files you want to rename, go to "Files">"Multi-Rename Tool" and it should be simple from there. Just find and replace.
w00t? that werent easy. ive made it to Files > Multi-Rename tool, then? :tilt:

Wait i THINK i got it :P

[xtremeracer[nl]]

hahah gret man :D

nice patch :D

[Anathema]

:thumb: Scawen. Great work. Downloading ... faster...faster

[livefornow]

great my patch and liveforspeed is working what so ever it says "could not find xfg_defualt.eng" ????
:( now i cant play:(

[teedot]

anyone else not able to play online with this test patch? Can't find the Master Server LFS says.

[xenoa]

WOhaa....dling it with ~800kbs

[anik360]

i cant unlock says game pass don't match even though i checked and doubled checked what i typed; is anyone facing this?

[808Drift]

i got that message once then closed lfs tried it agian and i been playing now for about an hour :D

[kurent]

Removed digital speedo option - now depends on type of car

I can't clearly see the speed on the analogue speedo. Anyone else thinks the same? :(

[livefornow]

this patch is a bad idea there is so many problems half of liveforspeed cant load the game im sat here trying to sort patch but my game does work:( actaully joke! im not happy :gnasher

[BlakjeKaas]

Removed digital speedo option - now depends on type of car

I can't clearly see the speed on the analogue speedo. Anyone else thinks the same? :(
nope...

except for the RAC and maybe UFR.

[geeman1]

this patch is a bad idea there is so many problems half of liveforspeed cant load the game im sat here trying to sort patch but my game does work:( actaully joke! im not happy :gnasherwat

[Thunderhead]

Removed digital speedo option - now depends on type of car

I can't clearly see the speed on the analogue speedo. Anyone else thinks the same? :(

I agree.


And in before Tristan & Hardcore co. going " BUT I DONT LOOK AT THE SPEEED IT NOT REALISTIC ECT ECT YADA YADA YADE BLAH BLAH BLAH SNOB SNOB SNOB SNIP SNIP SNIP...." ect. :tilt:

[detail]

Great news. New feature: download now can stall too! :D I'm impatient! 0:45 o'clock here, 25 minutes estimated to finish download. ...looks like I'll have to take it to my workplace tomorrow :D The new patch reminded me of those good days when I was a student and the discipline was loose. :)

I think analog speedo is ok. With digital one I was watching the digits too much instead of looking at the road.

[Mikkel Petersen]

this patch is a bad idea there is so many problems half of liveforspeed cant load the game im sat here trying to sort patch but my game does work:( actaully joke! im not happy :gnasher
Why do you think it's called a test patch, huh? :tombstone

[anik360]

ok now it gave up on connecting to the master server first time i have ever got pissed off at a lfs test patch

[Gil07]

this patch is a bad idea there is so many problems half of liveforspeed cant load the game im sat here trying to sort patch but my game does work:( actaully joke! im not happy :gnasher

It's a TEST patch. :really:

[joen]

this patch is a bad idea there is so many problems half of liveforspeed cant load the game im sat here trying to sort patch but my game does work:( actaully joke! im not happy :gnasher

Yeah, some things are going wrong, let's not make patches anymore...
Do you notice the words TEST in the topic title?

[livefornow]

can somoen tell me how i can fix this please i want to see the new car and the new features...........
ADMINS OR CREATER HELP US GUYS

[MaxHeadroom]

i think this is only for testing

I'd say they now have the new car for demoers for that UK tv thingie to find the appropiate drivers...

[marzman]

Hope he didn't forget to backup his X version ;) I'm copying mine now, i think i'll keep my x version even when Y is final.

[SpikeyMarcoD]

For patch Y lets include a tool to scan for a settings folder and do the renaming and copying. Am now indeed toying with total commander and i am not that handy. :D

[Mp3 Astra]

Removed digital speedo option - now depends on type of car

I can't clearly see the speed on the analogue speedo. Anyone else thinks the same? :(


Indeed; a lot of people install digital speedos to their road cars, so I imagine racers would do the same as well. It's a little irritating to have digital readouts removed completely.

[joen]

can somoen tell me how i can fix this please i want to see the new car and the new features...........
ADMINS OR CREATER HELP US GUYS

Well, you could start by saying WHAT goes wrong instead of whining. You can't expect people to smell it!

[joen]

For patch Y lets include a tool to scan for a settings folder and do the renaming and copying. Am now indeed toying with total commander and i am not that handy. :D

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=34759

[imthebestracerthereis]

omg this sucks! im still at school :D

[Dillyracer]

The FXR has a sequential gear box now ?

Apart from that, I love it

[troy]

can somoen tell me how i can fix this please i want to see the new car and the new features...........
ADMINS OR CREATER HELP US GUYS

oh common if your not able to read the first post you cant blame the patch.

first of all did you copy your existing lfs directory? thats how you should do it if something doesn't work you've got a backup so you can go back again without losing anything, second did you extract the patch into an empty folder, if yes thats wrong you need to extract it into an existing lfs directory (ideally in the copied one) and last but no least read the first post most of it is explained there

[deggis]

Indeed; a lot of people install digital speedos to their road cars, so I imagine racers would do the same as well. It's a little irritating to have digital readouts removed completely.
Remember, the cockpits are going to get changed "as soon as possible" (patch Z?) anyways.

[livefornow]

i keep gettinga problem when i double click on liveforspeed game it says "could not find xfg_defualt.eng" and it jsut stops working but i downloaded the patch into my liveforspeed folder and now liveforspeed doesnt work

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

Removed digital speedo option - now depends on type of car

I can't clearly see the speed on the analogue speedo. Anyone else thinks the same? :(

BUT I DONT LOOK AT THE SPEEED IT NOT REALISTIC ECT ECT YADA YADA YADE BLAH BLAH BLAH SNOB SNOB SNOB SNIP SNIP SNIP....

[FBUT Bishop]

Master server is down? I can't reconnect :scratchch:schwitz:

[Gil07]

Can't unlock atm... Any solution to the "Can't find master server" problem?

[ACCAkut]

just tried a bit on diffent servers, interesting. Will have to remodel all my sets gear ratios:really: And with the clutch simulation - now people with a G25 take a advantage.

[Thunderhead]

BUT I DONT LOOK AT THE SPEEED IT NOT REALISTIC ECT ECT YADA YADA YADE BLAH BLAH BLAH SNOB SNOB SNOB SNIP SNIP SNIP....

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

:thumbsup:

[geeman1]

just tried a bit on diffent servers, interesting. Will have to remodel all my sets gear ratios:really: And with the clutch simulation - now people with a G25 take a advantage.Or not. Autoclutching is still easier.

[Dillyracer]

Woah, I just got surprised at blackwood, the line in the turn after the long straight has been changed :p

[Dalek0220]

Well I managed to unlock quite fine and dandy...
'Cept for the fact I still can't go on a server...

P.S. Hai guys! I stopped playing the Sega MegaDrive!

[Lateralus]

Woah, I just got surprised at blackwood, the line in the turn after the long straight has been changed :p

Could you post a screenshot of that? And any other changes to the BL layout.

Also if someone could please post a shot of the map of South City Chicane Route, that would be great.

[joen]

i keep gettinga problem when i double click on liveforspeed game it says "could not find xfg_defualt.eng" and it jsut stops working but i downloaded the patch into my liveforspeed folder and now liveforspeed doesnt work

Somehow you lost the default engine sound for the XFG. Copy the included file into the data/engine folder.
Maybe you got a corrupted download or something.

[ajp71]

Indeed; a lot of people install digital speedos to their road cars, so I imagine racers would do the same as well. It's a little irritating to have digital readouts removed completely.

Most racing cars do not have a speedo because it's of no use on a racing track. Many racers choose not to have a speed read out, the single seaters and GT cars I've worked on with digital dashes have not had a speed read out by choice when the car had the relevant sensors installed (for data analysis). As soon as LFS has some what varying track conditions (or if you run with wind atm) you'll find that anyone whose using the speedo to navigate there way round the track will be slower and probably fall off.

[d3m0n]

Nice work @ Devs...

More bang for your bucks folks! ;)

Btw.: Master Server seems to be a bit stressed...

[Mp3 Astra]

Most racing cars do not have a speedo because it's of no use on a racing track. Many racers choose not to have a speed read out, the single seaters and GT cars I've worked on with digital dashes have not had a speed read out by choice when the car had the relevant sensors installed (for data analysis).

Hmm okay, maybe it's just wishful thinking from me. Thanks for the information!

[psychojuggalo17]

Oh come on! Damn you Scawen! the day I go home you release this! Looks like I will have to take another trip to my Grandparents real soon.

[Loko VEN]

The link is down?? I can´t download the patch.

[[GR]Evolution]

The link is down?? I can´t download the patch.

Me too

[ChiliFan]

This really is excellent, thanks Scavier. South City looks wonderful, the Formula BMW is great fun and the AI are much faster. They're actually competitive now. :D

[Rtsbasic]

Anyone fancy getting a mirror up? Links not working here either.

[ajp71]

Any news on the master server?

[Alles]

same here, aint working

[CTito]

"Gear change auto throttle cut and blip options removed"

I didn't like this point. I think it would continue to be opcional, because a LOT of people (like me) use MOMO and everyone knows that the pedal will not resist a lot of time, so I'm a bit unsatisfied.

BTW, nice mods =)

[Loko VEN]

Come on!! I wanna download the patch!! :D

Other link???

[SpikeyMarcoD]

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=34759


Too late. Well better build something standard in it seems to me.

[andy29]

Can't unlock atm... Any solution to the "Can't find master server" problem?
Downloaded it... extracted it... ran it... can't unlock. So close yet so far :chairfall

[PLAYLIFE]

Could someone be so nice and make a torrent for the patch? The link does not work (server issue)

[Breizh]

Playlife, there's a rapidshare mirror somewhere in this thread.
Here it is: http://rapidshare.com/files/75638031/LFS_PATCH_X_TO_X30.exe

[arco]

And then the record for most users online was broken... can we get to 1000? (waiting for the Australians to wake up...) :D

[Gnomie]

Downloaded it... extracted it... ran it... can't unlock. So close yet so far :chairfall

Same problem here.. :(

[imthebestracerthereis]

anyone seen the new SO track yet?

[livefornow]

i now get a problem saying "could not load font" ??? do anyone know what that is as i sorted the other problem out i had to copy all the eng noises over into that folder. but now another problem:shrug:

[BlueFlame]

I think the website is down :<

[imthebestracerthereis]

yes it is

OMG I WANNA DOWNLOAD THIS PATCH NOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW!!!!! :D

[AndroidXP]

A few Blackwood screens for those who can't try X30 yet ;)

[teedot]

Removed digital speedo option - now depends on type of car

I can't clearly see the speed on the analogue speedo. Anyone else thinks the same? :(

+1:thumb:

The digital speedo was a HUGE part of my racing.... you know... it is A LOT easier to glance down at a digital speedo when coming up to a turn rather then trying to decipher wtf the analog speedo says.... I really hope they change that back.:(

[drew555]

Seems to work OK but.....

Master server can't connect :(

Oh, and LFS site seems to have died...

[JasonJ]

And then the record for most users online was broken... can we get to 1000? (waiting for the Australians to wake up...) :D
I'm here, been up since 4am. Nice patch - FWIW - worked for me.

Can't seem to burn out my clutch though :( I'm really trying.:schwitz:

[chanoman315]

the new sets are incompatible with the ones in the patch X ??? cuz i cant see the settings ... :(

[marzman]

Can't unlock it but blackwood in the new formula car looks great. The car is a little slower and easier then the fox i think. I have to get used to the new gear changing thing. No more flatout through the gears :)

but with autoclutch (don't have a third pedal) you can't damage the clutch that much (well, i did, but that was with constantly driving forward and backwards for a few times) so i don't think G25 users will have an advantage. When clutch is totaly damaged i think you're race is over (i could not drive the car anymore).

And repairs is an option now in pitstops :)
I'm here, been up since 4am. Nice patch - FWIW - worked for me.

Can't seem to burn out my clutch though I'm really trying.

Try pulling away in first gear and revers a few times :)

[PLAYAPIMP]

DAMNNNNNN i wanna try that new BMW!!!! come lfs come oN!!!!:)

[Koopa]

Why on earth has the virtual counters (rev, speedo) been removed on some cars, i cant understand why the Fbmw DOES has Virtual counters and a XFG dont... Remove it completly or dont touch it. This change is stupid and unnessesary... :banghead:

There have been things changed which were good and there are changes which didnt need tobe changed, i simply cant understand some changes... If its good dont touch it...

Im not entirely negative, there are loads of good things, and offcourse its a test patch to fix things... But some changes i simply cant understand, anyways, im gonna make a list of things which imo are strange and unnessasary...

Also the cooling down of the clutch is ridicules slow... It burns up really fast... Too fast imo... The cooling down is ridicules slow. This needs tobe optimized and redone imo..., also when burning up the clutch, were is the smoke???

First time i got irritated with LFS in a long time... With some things that is...

The Fbmw is just good fun, tracks have been updated, imo SC is a bit too clean, a citytrack needs curbstones etc. Ive noticed better textures etc... Thats all good... But these small things are irritating.

Like the russians always say, if it works DONT CHANGE IT...

[JasonJ]

i now get a problem saying "could not load font" ??? do anyone know what that is as i sorted the other problem out i had to copy all the eng noises over into that folder. but now another problem:shrug:
YES, your running the 65MB patch without the rest of liveforspeed.

Copy your liveforspeed folder. call it LiveForSpeedTestPatch or something useful. Then put the patch you just downloaded into that new copy of LiveForSpeed.

You should always COPY your working copy of live for speed for test patches. Theres a chance something will go wrong. If you dont want to do all that, wait for the official release of patch Y which holds your hand through into Neverland.

[J@tko]

So, I've downloaded it. Do I copy my X version, and then add the new patch to it, or what next? :shrug:

Thanks in advance for your help


EDIT: I'll read the post above mine!

[geeman1]

the new sets are incompatible with the ones in the patch X ??? cuz i cant see the settings ... :(No, they are in a different folder now and you have to change the prefixes also.

[JasonJ]

the new sets are incompatible with the ones in the patch X ??? cuz i cant see the settings ... :(
Go back and read the whole thread. There are new folders for setting and car liveries which need to be populated with your old ones from SETTINGS folder. You have to rename them to the three letter names.

There should be a TEST before you can get to the TEST patch.:razz:

:edit: I'll read the post above mine ^_^

[Gil07]

Loving every single change so far :shy:

Such a shame I can't unlock and try the new South City track :(

[Shotglass]

Any news on the master server?

last ive heard of it:
[20:07:57] <vicc> i hate server reboots!
[20:08:10] <vicc> the stress :P



lovely update i really like the car and all but tbh im a bit gutted:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=468716#post468716

In short, don't worry, in the next bunch of physics changes I will be looking at improvements to the collision system.

[Audrius]

I like this patch, greater physics. Now when i use handbrake on XRG...... damn what can i say, LFS come more and more realistic, BEST simulator :)

If u set fully manual clutch you can easily burn it :) change gear pressed fully accelerator (dont release) and change gear, after few times u make like this and clutch gonna die :) then only RPM goes fast but not speed :)

[detail]

Can't understand how do I drive with mouse in order not to burn the clutch?

[Rtsbasic]

So the digital counters cannot be selected on some cars now?

Sounds a bit unrealistic, the Citroen C4 I occationally drive (small hatchback, not unlike the XFG) has completely digital counters, inc speed, rev counter etc.

[Motörhead V8]

Why on earth has the virtual counters (rev, speedo) been removed on some cars, i cant understand why the Fbmw DOES has Virtual counters and a XFG dont... Remove it completly or dont touch it. This change is stupid and unnessesary... :banghead:


because mostly formulas does have a virtual speedo
and mostly road cars have a analog speedo

this is fine for me, i almost never look at speedo or rev couter when i'm racing

[Amynue]

Playlife, there's a rapidshare mirror somewhere in this thread.
Here it is: http://rapidshare.com/files/75638031/LFS_PATCH_X_TO_X30.exeI need to wait 57 minutes, please upload it somewhere else!!

[Stigpt]

Apparently the new BMW is very close to the fox- cant wait to try both cars in the same track to get a feeling for it. But I can already envision Foxes vs Beemers..... :D instead of Foxes vs F*cking Oversteering 8's....

[PLAYLIFE]

No, they are in a different folder now and you have to change the prefixes also.

hushhh, don't give it all away.


They are in a new folder. It should be called "setups" dunno about prefixes. Havent even been able to start downloading yet... Someone posted a rapidshare link, which is generous. However, rapidshare sucks major azz. "Get your own Premium-account now! Instant download-access! (Or wait 47 minutes)" :bananadea

[Reese]

Hmm nice changes :)
Thank You Devs^^
I always drove with the digital speedo but I think its better (more real) to have it just at a few cars instead of at all,
its more challenging ;)

MfG Reese

[Rooble]

Link doesn't work for me, :(

[sweetreid]

can't connect to liveforspeed.net :(

[magorik]

hello i have problem with second controller

in vista 64 x10 patch i have conected x360 controller and g25 wheel and everything works fine 2 controllers detected and 2 controllers works

in vista 64 x30 there is a message 2 controller detected i can see axes but they dont react and g25 is dead, if i unplug x360 controller restart lfs g25 is recognised and responding

there is probably some bug because in x30 i cant have x360 pluged because g25 stops work

i try this in x30 over clean install x10 and same problem , i cant have pluged x360 controller

everything else is superb :) i like manual clutch :), it make driving very interesting, because every change of gear is uniqe, i can make errors :)

[jmari]

:shrug:

What is the problem ? due to the new patch ??

Master server down
Lfsworld down
Liveforspeed.net down

Please HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPp :x

Note : I don't download or install this new patch ....

[XCNuse]

I hate to ask this because I'm sure it has come up somewhere, has anyone else noticed the "CT" in the F9 and F10 displays?

Anyone know what it stands for?
it's at the bottom left, and is a grey bar and orange started to appear, I just noticed it and have no idea what it means.

[FireFox86]

I hate to ask this because I'm sure it has come up somewhere, has anyone else noticed the "CT" in the F9 and F10 displays?

Clutch Trouble? :razz:
or Clutch Temperature.
The clutch is cooled down after 10/12ish minutes.

[joen]

:shrug:

What is the problem ? due to the new patch ??

Master server down
Lfsworld down
Liveforspeed.net down

Please HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPp :x

Note : I don't dorwnload or install this new patch ....

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=34763

[Gil07]

Clutch Temperature I guess :D

Edit: to XCNuse

[AndroidXP]

*cough* We already beat the forum user online record by more than 150 and are quickly approaching the 1000 :thumb:

[Whiskey]

hello i have problem with second controller

in vista 64 x10 patch i have conected x360 controller and g25 wheel and everything works fine 2 controllers detected and 2 controllers works

in vista 64 x30 there is a message 2 controller detected i can see axes but they dont react and g25 is dead, if i unplug x360 controller restart lfs g25 is recognised and responding

there is probably some bug because in x30 i cant have x360 pluged because g25 stops work

i try this in x30 over clean install x10 and same problem , i cant have pluged x360 controller

everything else is superb i like manual clutch , it make driving very interesting, because every change of gear is uniqe, i can make errors
I have a similar problem, but worst. I had a Logitech Gamepad, and a Logitech MOMO. My MOMO is usually unpluged, and i only plug it when i'm going to play.
Well, since I tried this new patch my MOMO isn't reconoigsed by my Windows Vista 64

I suffers this problema another times, and the wheel started to work some hours later. But is extrange that this problem came at the same time that the patch no?

[XCNuse]

Ahh, makes sense, thanks guys lol.. not exactly in the thinking mood anymore with exams over and winter break started!

[JasonJ]

S2 ALPHA : AI drivers can't yet drive in windy conditions

That made my day...:smileypul
What's-a-matter Mr AI ? Toooooo scared ? Coolness. :)

[BlueFlame]

Nice to see you around tho XCNuse. :)

I think the clutch thing sucks, it doesn't give you much of a chance to be able to use manual clutch before you burn your clutch out but I have to use clutch on a button for the wheel, i don't have 3 pedals, and what is with the fact you can't change gear unless you have less than 50% throttle?:really:

[zak_mull]

We can't find http://www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php...
Help?

[chanoman315]

Go back and read the whole thread. There are new folders for setting and car liveries which need to be populated with your old ones from SETTINGS folder. You have to rename them to the three letter names.

There should be a TEST before you can get to the TEST patch.:razz:

:edit: I'll read the post above mine ^_^
wth my 1825 sets.... long work :x