LFS popularity in each country

[Nitemare]

i made a graph that represents how many people from each country have licensed LFS, relatively to each country's population...
http://nitemare.misto.cz/lfs_countries.gif
numbers mean percentage of licensed racers (http://www.lfsworld.net/desktop_images/licensepiedraw.php) divided by percentage of world's population (http://www.photius.com/rankings/population/population_2004_1.html)...
sadly there are no exact numbers on lfsworld as how many licensed races there are, so no more meaningful numbers are available... but i think it still gives quite a good idea about popularity of lfs in the world... looks like LFS is big in scandinavia... :scratchch

[vari]

Yep, we're bunch of rally/motorsport freaks :)

btw, If you do the same with rally/f1 championships the number will be equally ridiculous if not worse :D

[sinbad]

It's a Scandinavian white-wash :)

[Bob Smith]

Well the exact population figures are available for the world, as we have a rough idea of how many licenses have been sold (to within ~20%)

Edit: See spreadsheet
That means 1 in every ~5000 people in Finland have bought LFS. Quite an achievement!
Or 1 in every ~255,000 people worldwide :-)

[farcar]

Any graph that shows Australia ahead of the UK is a good graph :D !

[danowat]

What I find really interesting is that there are no Korean LFS drivers, Korean is probably the biggest PC games market in the world, and they LOVE online games, infact an online mario kart game is very widely played over there, maybe LFS is too hardcore for them.
Just imagine the potential sales from LFS in Korean, the mind boggles at that one......

Dan.

[ColeusRattus]

What I find really interesting is that there are no Korean LFS drivers, Korean is probably the biggest PC games market in the world, and they LOVE online games, infact an online mario kart game is very widely played over there, maybe LFS is too hardcore for them.
Just imagine the potential sales from LFS in Korean, the mind boggles at that one......

Dan.

Perhaps this would come with a korean tranbslation

[inCogNito]

Then LFS had to be released by Blizzard ;)

[AndroidXP]

Yeah, and you'd need an item/upgrade/level system.

"Just this one more level-up."

"Ohhh, shiny item in the far.... it's... it's a magic tyreset with speed +1"

"Only.... fifteen... more... minutes........AAAAAAaaaaaarrrghhhhh" :tired:

[XRRoy]

arg, again we are beaten by zeh germans:banghead: :really:

[GP4Flo]

So what do these numbers represent? 47,71 % of the finnish population playing LFS? :scratchch

[Qurpiz]

Lol... We Finns are nerds....

(Is it nerd to play LFS?)

[Hyperactive]

Where's Estonia?

[Renku]

Where's Estonia?
amongst 0,05

[Hyperactive]

amongst 0,05

I thought all you estonian people were LFS freaks :D

[Batterypark]

I thought there would be more than 975 licensees in Finland, actually.

I stopped "selling" licenses a year go, and I got up to £1404, which makes 117 x £12, so probably around a hundred separate people considering there weren't that many S2 licensees back then.

So I'm sorry if there are too many finns, you can blame me for around 10% of them :)

[Lautsprecher[NOR]]

Norwegian guleböj
WTF's Gulebøy? do you know something about my country that i don't?
*Runs away in shame*

[X-Ter]

']WTF's Gulebøy? do you know something about my country that i don't?
*Runs away in shame*
Vissa Svenskar tror på fullt allvar att banan heter guleböj på Norska. Andra vet hur det ligger till och använder ordet bara för att jäklas :D

Nothing so see here... Move along :Looking_a

[Neokiller]

5.47 for Portugal? lol thats weird :pillepall

[deggis]

Finnish LFS world domination. :D

[Fetzo]

well i think you aren't enough for that :).

but lfs dominating finland is ok for me too :).

[tehSnaile]

Very nice and interessting work. Keep that chart updated. I'd love to see it every quarter. :nod:

[Hallen]

Hmmm, something funky here.
There are about 300,000,000 people in the US. If you multiply that by ~3%, you get about 9,000,000 licenced LFS users. I think that is a tad off. I think your are trying to divide apples by oranges.
I look at it this way
(x/l)/(c/w)= (x/c)
where x is the number of licenced racers from a country
l is the total number of lfs licenses
c is the number of people in a country
w is the world population

x and l are unknown.
I think if you do the algebra, it comes out with something other than what you wanted.

I think you must have the total number of licenses to make this work.
How about using that number of 30,000 that showed up in one of the posts about the English LFS meeting?
Or, maybe I am just not understanding your method.

[96 GTS]

Something's screwy with that chart. I don't really think that almost have of the Finnish population has LFS either. I don't really get what that chart is trying to say.

[Vykos69]

numbers mean percentage of licensed racers (http://www.lfsworld.net/desktop_images/licensepiedraw.php) divided by percentage of world's population (http://www.photius.com/rankings/population/population_2004_1.html)And here is your problem: You dont have licensed LFS racers in every country of the world. So the license pie is not comparable to the civilisation pie of the world. You would need to only count the populations of the countries involved for the worlds-pie, so you have the same amount of "pie-pieces" in the LFS-pie and the worlds pie with the same countries on it. But e.g. China: Is there any licensed LFS racer in china? So does it count into the LFS license pie? If not, your whole world pie would change by a huuuuge amount. got the point?

[aimbottle]

Yeah Vykos is right there...

[smartassmode on]

If you want to calculate the percentage of people owning a lfs license in dependance of the countries population you just have to multiply the percentage of licensed racer per country with the total number of purchased lfs licenses and divide the result by the total number of people living in this country (number of population ;) )
For Germany it would be: 0.25 (percentage) x X(total number of purchased lfs licenses which I don't know) / 82,424,609 (total number of people living in Germany) and the result is the percentage of the german population which bought a lfs license :thumb:

[\smartassmode off]

I hope you'll consider this helpful information for finishing your task to rule the world. :pillepall

have a nice day!

aimbottle

Edit: in the first place i was strongly confused about nearly every second finnish citizen owning a lfs license :D.

[Bob Smith]

Nitemare's graph is exactly correct shape, just the numbers are meaningless.

Did nobody look at the attachment I posted? That shows estimated percentages. For those too lazy to click it:

[96 GTS]

Niki's graph is exactly correct shape, just the numbers are meaningless.

Did nobody look at the attachment I posted? That shows estimated percentages. For those too lazy to click it:
/smartass mode on
It's Nitemare, not Nikimere ;)
/smartass mode off

[Vykos69]

Niki's graph is exactly correct shape, just the numbers are meaningless.

Did nobody look at the attachment I posted? That shows estimated percentages. For those too lazy to click it:
No, it is not right, read my post again, and learn some maths ;) :p

[Nitemare]

those numbers i posted of course ARE NOT in PERCENT... as i said it's just a ratio of the two percentages... that does't make it a percentage too.. the number itself means nothing, but the relative margin between values is the same, as if you counted with exact numbers of licences, like bob smith did... (i didn't know an estimated number of licences sold, that's why i didn't count the percentages)

And here is your problem: You dont have licensed LFS racers in every country of the world. So the license pie is not comparable to the civilisation pie of the world. You would need to only count the populations of the countries involved for the worlds-pie, so you have the same amount of "pie-pieces" in the LFS-pie and the worlds pie with the same countries on it. But e.g. China: Is there any licensed LFS racer in china? So does it count into the LFS license pie? If not, your whole world pie would change by a huuuuge amount. got the point?
i got the % of licenses sold in the rest of the world... that's 4% in the license pie... to get the population which corresponds with this number you just have to simply make a sum of population of countries in graph and substract it from world's population... so i just count the rest of the world as the one big country for the purpose of this graph...

...i'm pretty sure my math is right ;)

edit: here's the xls for the graph...
edit2: i updated the graph with an estimation of 30 000 licences sold, so now the values are in % of population

[Vykos69]

thanks for clearing this up nitemare, and you are right: Yes, you should be right with your calculation then.

[Tweaker]

This seems a whole lot more accurate for the US, good idea.

[BuddhaBing]

Interesting stats, thanks Nitemare. Makes me wonder why there is such a big disparity between Scandinavia and the rest of the world though. And it also makes me feel a bit sad to know that only about 1000 people in my own country play LFS. Maybe I'll try to boost those numbers a little through word of mouth.

[nikimere]

Niki's graph is exactly correct shape, just the numbers are meaningless.

Who said what now...!? :Looking_a :shrug:

[96 GTS]

/smartass mode on
It's Nitemare, not Nikimere ;)
/smartass mode off
You said nothing Niki ;) I'll admit, I've mixed you guys up plenty of times, at a quick glance, your tags look exactly the same hehe.

[Hallen]

Cool, I understand a bit better now.
Thanks for pulling out the data, very interesting. About 4100 LFS licensed users in the US. Pretty lame. Gonna have to work on that some. I need more racers in my time zone :D

[huxorator]

arg, again we are beaten by zeh germans:banghead: :really:

Some things will NEVER change! :smileypul:D

[Tweaker]

Excellent analysis schofei. This proves why US, Japan and other countries would be jackpots for the devs ;)

[cynic64]

Any graph that shows Australia ahead of the UK is a good graph :D !

And for New Zealand to be ahead of USA & Canada is equally impressive.

Go the Antipodes !! :D

[TaiFong]

The most impressive thing to me is how rich the devs are. Splitting profit only 3 ways must be divine. :D

[tristancliffe]

Yeah, but you have to remember that they didn't charge for LFS for about 2 years (18 months iirc), so the money they earnt since S1 has to pay of their loans :p

Unless Mrs. Devs earnt enough to cover their ways...