Kegetys' Ghost Car v1.0 for S2

[(SaM)]

Another wonderful application made by Kegetys, download here (http://www.kegetys.net/lfs/). It displays a ghostcar with a path that shows acceleration of the ghostcar. See attached previews.

[naskavu]

Cool Very nice downloading :thumbsup:

[Cue-Ball]

Can't wait to try this! This is something that people have been asking about for ages now. I can't believe some of the things Kegetys can do with LFS. :Looking_a

[Vendetta]

Downloading now. Looks VERY promising! Great job Kegetys!!!!

[Breizh]

That's great, thanks Kegetys.

[Vendetta]

Ok, i did what i was told in the readme. I start up lfs, and it crashes. It crashes when loading textures. Ill try redownloading another time, but for now i got to sleep :D.

[naskavu]

i load lfs.exe and then load LFSGrun and type in /ghost on ... but when i race couple of laps no ghost ? :scratchch

[5T3PH]

Looks like u gave the LFS devs less work to do for S3 :D

[Jonesy_]

i load lfs.exe and then load LFSGrun and type in /ghost on ... but when i race couple of laps no ghost ? :scratchch

rtfm! :razz:

/ghost on - Enable ghostcar recording & playback
/ghost drawcar - Toggle ghost car drawing
/ghost drawpath - Toggle ghostcar path drawing

straight from the readme, nice and clearly :)

-J
E: and you don´t need to run lfs.exe, place the lfsgrun.exe in to your lfs main folder and start lfs by using it.

[Breizh]

It freezes my vid card on both LFS 0.5P and Q, right at the start of lap 2, when the ghost car should first appear.

A64 3500
X800P
256MB of 3200 DDR
Audigy 2
WinXP SP2
Xbox controller with XBCD drivers
The error message is STOP 0x000000EA THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER (Q293078)

[detail]

It's incredible! Works for me very well.

For those who have problems: you need to type
/ghost on
/ghost drawcar
/ghost drawpath (if you need)

Maybe Kegetys would also make a night mod with pure programming (not textures editing)?

[TaiFong]

Amazing! This nice piece of work already helped me improved some of my lines and braking/acceleration points. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[AndroidXP]

Hehehe, this is awsome. Everything that the devs don't have time to or refuse to implement simply gets hacked into the game :D

[aLexusPro]

Amazing!!! Really Amaizing! :thumbsup:

One problem: when i start it, my ghost car was very-very bad.. hmm texturized? Textures from my game window. GhostWay wasn't :(
But after Shift+F4 & Shift+F4 all OK. Beauty GhostCar & wonderfull GhostWay! THANKS!!! :thumb:

One ask: it can be great to load as a GhostCar WR replay! :scratchch

[Hankstar]

I like the look of those screenies :nod: I'll give this a shot for sure ...

[inCogNito]

It freezes my vid card on both LFS 0.5P and Q, right at the start of lap 2, when the ghost car should first appear.

A64 3500
X800P
256MB of 3200 DDR
Audigy 2
WinXP SP2
Xbox controller with XBCD drivers
The error message is STOP 0x000000EA THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER (Q293078)

Yes, same thing happened to me and another guy. We both had nvidia cards, but since you have an ATI we can rule that out as the problem.

Please check if it only happens the first time! I gave it a second shot and it didn't crash anymore.
I don't know the error message on the blue screen, because it rebooted immidiately.

Maybe everyone who gets crashes/bluescreens/reboots can post his system specs, so we find the problem.

Mine are:

XP64 3500+
GF 7800GT
1GB DDR400 Ram
nForce4 Ultra chipset
Audigy soundcard
DFP wheel

[al heeley]

Is this the problem?
"A video card with Pixel Shader 1.0 support is required"
Runs fine on my machine, ATi card here.
This is great work, really enhances the fastlapping experience, and a great aid to improving laptimes, and making it more enjoyable.
I would suggest that the 'ON' options are the default position though when you run LFSG.exe, so pepole don't have to type
/ghost on
/ghost drawcar
/ghost drawpath
:up: Good work:up:

[inCogNito]

Well, the card supports Pixel Shader 3.0, so i guess it supports 1.0 as well ;)

[Bob Smith]

Wow, looks very sweet!

Does he never post his own apps here? It always seems to be someone else making the threads for him...

[CrazyICE]

well, tested it some time ago...
really nice!

and it's enough to type
/ghost drawcar
/ghost drawpath
when starting LFS via LFSGrun.exe.

big hand to Kegetys...
you are dev-like ;)

[GP4Flo]

Wow, how does this app work??

[KiDCoDEa]

whatta mother FFFFFFFFFF !"#$#$&"!!! fukin YEAH!

now were talkin'
suberb job kegetys.
you just saved scawen another headache topic!
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[CrazyICE]

Wow, how does this app work??
with outsim and a DirectX "gateway" (proxy-dll for dx)
==> http://www.proxy.mikoweb.de/index.php

[Barroso]

hes gonna get hired soon going like this!

[KiDCoDEa]

this is hotlap heaven.

just lapped 5 laps and everything worked flawlessly. even got split differences to ghost car displayed!!! thank you so much.

besides the known near distance trembling bug, this is perfect. even got the long requested near distance fadeouts! (customizable via cfg)

WOW

***** stars KEGETYS!

[kamo2000]

Well i got this:
InSim : Admin password does not match
InSim : packet received before ISI packet

This is appearing continuously...and it's not working at all for me..

[CrazyICE]

Well i got this:
InSim : Admin password does not match
InSim : packet received before ISI packet

This is appearing continuously...and it's not working at all for me..
seems you have defined a admin pw in LFS!
try to delete the admin PW:
- go to "multiplayer"
- go to "start new game"
- delete the admin pw ("Admin password")!

or you can define the admin pw in the config file (config.cfg, in the ghostcar-folder):

[insim]
; destPort: InSim destination port to connect to
; srcPort: Source port used to receive data
; adminPass: InSim admin password
destPort=28888
srcPort=31000
adminPass=

use notepad or any other text editor to manipulate this config file!

[KiDCoDEa]

ISI packet

...and it's not working at all for me..

that makes sense.
ISI usually doesnt work...:D

[AndroidXP]

LoL, KiD's right :D

[Kegetys]

I would suggest that the 'ON' options are the default position though when you run LFSG.exe

Actually they were supposed to, but now that I looked at it, it seems those settings are incorrectly read from the config file. If you want them to be enabled by default, set the debugOutput setting to 1 from the config file :x :smash:

[kamo2000]

well i;m noob in this :D

thx for advice now it's working :thumb:

[(SaM)]

I get InSim::Initialise : bind failed when I type /insim 28888, does anyone know how to solve this?

[Noccy]

if Keg doesnt have a job yet, LFS should definatly hire him
Its simply amazing what addons and mods he has released.

I know of him since for operation flashpoint where he made THE best features ..dxdll,spectatorscript,all his work for FDF-mod..all top quality, almost genious, work.

Now he does the same for LFS : pitspotter,slickmod,ghostcar (mmm starting to drool thinking what else he might be working on )

All for free ,just because he likes the game :)
he has no dev tools ,isnt working on a game fulltime like the devs..and still he manages to release top quality stuff (often even better then what the devs come up with)

I love u kegetys =) keep it up and u will be the most famous/loved modmaker in history :lovies3d:

[(SaM)]

..(often even better then what the devs come up with)..

I'm sorry. :tilt: But what the devs came up with is still alot better than all of what Kegetys ever made, the devs made LFS.
Kegetys just makes amazing addons for LFS.

No-one knows what causes the UPD port bind to fail? What could be blocking it?

[eindewege]

Me is likeing this program very mucho...

Maybe a suggestion, It would be nice if you could get a ghost car of a replay. Like download the WR, and make a ghost car for that run, so you could compare that run with your own.

[sinbad]

Incredibly impressive.
I have to wonder what else you could come up with, and what private add-ons/mods you have made for yourself :)

[inCogNito]

Now he does the same for LFS : pitspotter,slickmod,ghostcar (mmm starting to drool thinking what else he might be working on )


did someone said LFSTV? :scratchch :tilt:

[Noccy]

@(SAM)

note the word "often" in my above post
Im guessing u never played ofp or u would definatly agree with me that his work is a standard higher then anything else (imho even higher then what BIS themselves added in patches and resistance addon)

and for LFS..well we havent seen the last of kegetys i bet.. I agree LFS is a top game. But i am without doubt if keg worked on this fulltime we would all worship him as much as we do now with the scavier team.

[McAzerty]

Nice, finally something usefull on this forum :-p LOL

[wheeler]

thanks to Kegetys for this nice addon! Maybe you should attach your application to this forum so we get the latest version? Your website might get alot of datatraffic as well.

[Vendetta]

Nice, finally something usefull on this forum :-p LOL

So your saying that:
This isnt useful: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=3241
This isnt useful: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=3295
This isnt useful: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=3019
This isnt useful: http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=26
This isnt useful: http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=29
This isnt useful: http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=27
This isnt useful: http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=39

I could go on forever if i wanted. When you said you were leaving LFS, i was hoping you were for sure ;)

[Kegetys]

Version 1.01 is available (http://koti.mbnet.fi/kegetys/lfs/) now, it fixes a few bugs like the car & path draw config settings.

[troy]

great one was waiting for that since i have lfs
finally fun in singleplayer also :thumb:

only problem i noticed is that the ghostcar path wasnt there
but then i did what aLexusPro did with the shift + F4 2 times
and taaadaaa all works fine

really like that one thx mate

[bLaCk VaMpIrE]

very nice tool, really, but it would be even nicer if i worked in replay mode.

[dylan]

i'd love to have ghost of wr. This should be easy to achieve using .raf files!
dylan
p.s. some people can never get enough

[Lautsprecher[NOR]]

Version 1.01 is available (http://koti.mbnet.fi/kegetys/lfs/) now, it fixes a few bugs like the car & path draw config settings.
How about fixing the D3D8.dll crap? all this file does for me is stop LFS from running.

[D34N0]

Thanks KeyGetys Great tool... :thumb: :thumb:

Works a treat... Hopefully can get some more consistant laps with this :smileypul

[Gopher04]

Haven't tried yet, but will, looking forward to this, looks great m8, thx's KeyGetys :thumb:

[KiDCoDEa]

']How about fixing the D3D8.dll crap? all this file does for me is stop LFS from running.

even i find that rude. thats saying something i guess :)

[tristancliffe]

yeah - not exactly gonna get Kegety bowing to your needs is it. I say make the dll file not work ONLY for him (somehow).

[Breizh]

It works now after reinstalling LFS.

[BBO@BSR]

Just something to think about

I don't want to cut down Kegetys work on that but tbh i don't understand the hype about this application. :scratchch

Everyone is talking about that LFS is the one and only, the first real realistic sim etc. and now it looks like you guys are "freaking out" about something that is part of most of the typical arcade games. A ghost car is imo more then unrealistic and should not be part of a sim .

I don't say don't use it (everyone can do what he wants) but I never used it and I'll never use it.

[Gavin UK]

very forza :) loosk ace

[wheeler]

Just something to think about
..
I don't say don't use it (everyone can do what he wants) but I never used it and I'll never use it.

for me it's an aid to learn from my own racing. true it's not "real" but hey, it's a computergame! I like this tool, it works very well and I think without the ghostcar you have a nice application with just the path and times.

[inCogNito]

Just something to think about

I don't want to cut down Kegetys work on that but tbh i don't understand the hype about this application. :scratchch

Everyone is talking about that LFS is the one and only, the first real realistic sim etc. and now it looks like you guys are "freaking out" about something that is part of most of the typical arcade games. A ghost car is imo more then unrealistic and should not be part of a sim .

I don't say don't use it (everyone can do what he wants) but I never used it and I'll never use it.

lol, sorry, but if someone really claims that LFS is the first real realistic sim, he has some serious mental problems!
A hud with a minimap, a between tire view, starts only after green light, a reset key, analogue displays on a digital readout etc.
There are many more things in LFS that are far away from realism. Some are
still in development and maybe will be fixed in a patch/S3, some are gameplay decision that there are for a reason (shift+s e.g.)

The ghostcar is a practice instrument for singleplayer and it's as unrealistic as the current hotlap mode where you can start your hotlap over and over again,even after a fatal crash!

[BLooDMaN]

Don't listen to him, this app is VERY useful and it'll help people to race better.

I've been using PitSpotter for some time and now everyone tells me I'm the most clean racer in the community so Thank You for all this programs that make LFS MUCH more enjoyable.

Keep it up :thumb:


(sorry for my bad english)

[sil3ntwar]

IMO everyone should learn the hard way.

[Breizh]

Yeah, following the car ahead of you online, like a rabbid dog after a fleeing rabbit makes it hard to find the right lines huh :)

[Veiti]

Hi Kegetys,

thx a lot for this cool add-on. It works great. :-)
BTW, is it possible to save replay laps as ghost laps?

Ciao
Veit

[Fordman]

Looks Nice and intreged. IS this the same hotlap over and over again, or is it like the AI, and learns on each run?

Just asking

[CrazyICE]

ghost files are stored!
and of course this is always the same lap...
why should a ghost learn?

[Mekaza Bitrusty]

Am I missing the point here? what help is it to see a ghost car doing the same crap driving I do? I need the ghost car to do the hot laps I download from good drivers so I can see where they brake, turn etc.:schwitz:

[Fordman]

In a more friendly manner :D If you are quicker than the ghost car, whats the point of looking at it in your rear view mirror.

Although I agree, an excellent tool, for the new people to LFS, but maybe not for us that have been here for sometime?

Although I still agree, there is a hole here. Although you can analyze your replay's with Replay Analyzer, looking at it with a Ghost Car would be a better option, so there, being able to use Hotlaps would be absolutly great, if possible:shrug:

[al heeley]

Within a very short period I found the ghost car really useful to show up your own errors each lap, improving on the line you take and braking poihts, allowing you to shave a couple of tenths off each lap till you get up to a good speed. It is instantly apparent where you can improve on a line, cut a corner a bit deeper or brake earlier/later.

As a separate issue, the ability to d/load a really quick alien hotlap from someone else and have the ghost car follow that would also be a good learning tool.

[inCogNito]

In a more friendly manner :D If you are quicker than the ghost car, whats the point of looking at it in your rear view mirror.


i think you are still missing the point! ;)

if you are quicker than the ghost car, that quicker lap will become the new ghost. As long as you are seeing it in the rear view mirror, you are driving a new PB.

[zurdospeed]

Impressive tool for me! Thankyou very much :)

[Fordman]

i think you are still missing the point! ;)

if you are quicker than the ghost car, that quicker lap will become the new ghost. As long as you are seeing it in the rear view mirror, you are driving a new PB.

HA HA :) So it does what it says on the tin ( English Joke )

Thanks Incognito :D

[ferox.CHIEF TAOA]

Thanks for that work :)

[Serpentine]

Just something to think about

I don't want to cut down Kegetys work on that but tbh i don't understand the hype about this application. :scratchch

Everyone is talking about that LFS is the one and only, the first real realistic sim etc. and now it looks like you guys are "freaking out" about something that is part of most of the typical arcade games. A ghost car is imo more then unrealistic and should not be part of a sim .

I don't say don't use it (everyone can do what he wants) but I never used it and I'll never use it.

When you end up in a gravel trap you must spend an awful lot of time waiting for the tow-truck! :D

Kegetys - nice work. Thanks. :thumb:

[detail]

I always wonder at some GPL nerds blaming LFS in "arcadishness".

If there were no ghost car, anyone would need to spend more time guessing which path is better, especially at rallyX tracks, where you can go in a plenty of paths. I would need to ask somebody fast to drive ahead of me to show me the path, watch hotlaps replays (can you watch a replay the same way IRL?!! Then GPL/whateverothersim is arcade too!). This tool just saves my and someone's else time. It is absolutely not about the arcadish "press the key exactly at this point for the best result" driving style. You still need to learn to drive in a normal 'simulatory' way just with a tip (send the car 400 ms ahead and it will be almost like your friend driving ahead of you).

It is like the Orthodox Church: all that is invented by the devil is the evil and must be fought, and those, who like it or admit it, are not true believers.

[Vendetta]

BTW, is it possible to save replay laps as ghost laps?

Read the rest of the thread, you cant atm :(

[felplacerad]

Wow, awesome work!

FYI: seems to work just fine on win xp x64

here's a little "bug", though i guess it comes from within LFS itself.

[Veiti]

Read the rest of the thread, you cant atm :(


I have read the thread, but I was hoping someone could have found a workaround.

[Mekaza Bitrusty]

OK, I have this program working now. After driving a lap in single player mode I get the messages "Failed to create ghost file" and "failed to load ghost car file".

Any ideas? :scratchch

[PLAYLIFE]

Cool addon, fantastic - I immediately started improving my lap records :D

[kel64]

Wow, awesome work!

FYI: seems to work just fine on win xp x64

here's a little "bug", though i guess it comes from within LFS itself.

Noticed that too. Only very minor though.

[B2B@300]

Wow just found this, where have i been :shy: im at work but cant wait to get home to try it, looks awsome :D

[windmouse]

brilliant work! the acceleration coloured line helped me pretty much with my consistency...

[CrazyICE]

brilliant work! the acceleration coloured line helped me pretty much with my consistency...
yeah, and it shows you where the ghost was changing gear too ;)

[xaotik]

Seamlessly integrates with LFS, smooth as can be and haven't noticed any glitches so far. Brilliant work! :)

[theblackrabbi]

Any suggestions? I have been trying to get live for speed to work with the plugin but it will not startup. Only after I take the direct3d dll file out does the game work again, but then I cant get the ghostcar to work.

[JJ72]

I think it's great that you can't load WR replays with this programe, because as aforth mentioned that'll make it way too easy. Limited it to your own driving makes perfect sense in LFS cos it still requires someone to explore his own limitation. It's just the same as the replay analyser with the only difference that it's displayed live, you still have to use your brain in figuring out which line is better,

top notch work.

[inCogNito]

yeah, and it shows you where the ghost was changing gear too ;)

how? :scratchch

[CrazyICE]

how? :scratchch
you see it, for example, on the straight, where you accelerate (green path) and when the ghost shifts the color of the path changes... (to orange or so)
have a look on it!

"it's easy to see" ;)

[seggons]

Finally, someone who is competitive with my slowness ..... ME :D Brill add-on/mod. I was shocked to see how much I wondered from one side to the other along the backstright of BL :O

[felplacerad]

I was shocked to see how much I wondered from one side to the other along the backstright of BL :O

lol, me too :)

[inCogNito]

you see it, for example, on the straight, where you accelerate (green path) and when the ghost shifts the color of the path changes... (to orange or so)
have a look on it!

"it's easy to see" ;)

i think that's a coincident. The color changes to orange or even red if you stop to accelerate. With the FO8 in AS national it gets red in the very fast corners, but not if you shift.
I wondered about the red line on the straight, but i couldn't figure out what's the reason. And it isn't the shifting. I tried it.

I will try it again tonight and make some screenshots.

[theblackrabbi]

what version of live for speed do you guys have? what version of the ghostcar mod do you have?? I have been trying to get this to work, and it seems so easy, but I still can't get it to even start with that dll file.

[CrazyICE]

i think that's a coincident. The color changes to orange or even red if you stop to accelerate. With the FO8 in AS national it gets red in the very fast corners, but not if you shift.
I wondered about the red line on the straight, but i couldn't figure out what's the reason. And it isn't the shifting. I tried it.

I will try it again tonight and make some screenshots.
i noticed it in the XFG on BL RallyCross...
maybe in the fast cars there is not much difference in the acceleration when shifting... :shrug:

[inCogNito]

probably. in the FO8 the line gets red in corners or uphill, even if you don't lose speed, just stopping gaining more (according to the speedometer, maybe the real speed gets slower by less than 1kph).
And maybe the same effect happens when you shift with a slower car.

maybe kegetys can tell us how the colors work :)

[Shotglass]

i think that's a coincident. The color changes to orange or even red if you stop to accelerate. With the FO8 in AS national it gets red in the very fast corners, but not if you shift.
I wondered about the red line on the straight, but i couldn't figure out what's the reason. And it isn't the shifting. I tried it.

I will try it again tonight and make some screenshots.

i think its a combination of losing acel while shifting (or actually slowing down a bit) and the fact that currently the cars velocity is just x+y so if you drive through an elevation change (like the up and down after the esses on blackwood) at a constant speed (try using the pit limiter) the line colour should change from orange when the road is still flat to red while the slope gradually increases and back to orange when youre on the linear part of the slope

so at any point where the curvature of the height of the track is not euql to 0 the line should change to red

[Pablo.CZ]

I don't know how to get it working. LFS Q, GhostCar 1.01
I run LFSGrun.exe, but nothing happen after I wrote "/ghost on" and other commands, even /ghost help.
I have debugOutput=1 and my adminpass is the same as gamepass and this password I wrote to ghostcar config.
XP SP1, DX9.0c, R9500

[al heeley]

Are you running single player + no AI, or hotlapping mode?

[Pablo.CZ]

Are you running single player + no AI, or hotlapping mode?
yes, as readme said
why "/ghost help" does nothing? some communicating problem between lfs and this mod? how this mod working? (coz I can't see any process in my task manager for it)

[theblackrabbi]

I'm also stuck on getting the damn ghostcar mod to work too. It has something to do with direct3d I think. I updated to 9.0c and everything seems to work fine, but the game can't start as long as the dll file that came with 1.01 or whatever.

[Pablo.CZ]

Solved! I was right, there was communicating problem between insim and mod because of my firewall :shy:
Anyway brilliant mod, thank you Kegetys :thumbsup:

[theblackrabbi]

Still not getting the game to launch. I did everything it said to do. I have tried both versions of ghostcar on both LFS versions, and still no luck. I love this idea for the ghostcar, but it's driving me crazy trying to get the mod to work....

[theblackrabbi]

I'm not trying to diss what the keys has done, but why the heck wount this dang thing work? I know keys isn't a tech support kinda hommie, cause I'm sure he has enough sL_)(T to do, but why cant this work???????????????????????/ I triend both versions with an ati x800 and the game doesn't want to start. I got it to boot once, but then the ghostmod wouldn't even work after it loaded. Any help would mean so much. Because as of now my life isn't compleat without it!!!!!

[theblackrabbi]

I'm going nuts here. I know computers very well, and I do everything the instructions say, but still no luck :(

[Hyperactive]

Damn. Even my ghost is faster than me :D

No blue screens or anything else here. Just started that lfsgrun and wrote /ghost on. Perrrrfekt!


Now I just need to get faster


EDIT: forgot to mention that your firewall may block it. When you start lfs and when you're on the track with the car, press shift+F4 and check if your firewall is trying to tell you something. Also you may have firewall set to block all connections from or to LFS. Incoming to port 28888 or something like that it was...

[theblackrabbi]

If you ever get the ghost car mod to work tell me the trick to get it working.

[Hyperactive]

If you ever get the ghost car mod to work tell me the trick to get it working.

This doesn't work?:

Unzip the files to your LFS folder. Make sure the file structure is like it's supposed to be.

Run lfsgrun.exe. It starts the LFS for you.

Pick track&car and go hotlapping.

When your car appears on track, press "t" and type: /ghost on

Press shift+F4 and check if you firewall is denying the connection between LFS and lfsgrun (port:28888).

It should say ghost enabled or something like that. Also note that you need to drive one full lap before you see the actual ghost. :ghostie:

[theblackrabbi]

Well this worked for me after a week of going crazy thinking it was the d3d8.dll. It had to do with some drivers I installed for my ati x800 card. I guess when I exited the program ATITools then everything worked perfect. So I guess that's one thing to think about just incase you run into the same problem as me.

[zurdospeed]

Thankgod theblackrabbi ;)

[nikimere]

I'm sure this is a great app and some excellent programming from Kegetys, but i wont be using it :x Takes away from realism.
What about someone making a proper telemetry system instead of a ghost car? I know we have replay analyzer but something more in-depth

[theblackrabbi]

We should have a best lap kinda ghost replay file post. So other people could download other peoples best times, so maybe they could inprove by racing the ghost of somebody elses best time????!!!!

[NotAnIllusion]

Can't this be done by replacing the /ghostcar/ghost/trk.car.ghost file with someone else's (ask them nicely :p)?

[theblackrabbi]

I would think so. I mean of course the best way to do better is race yourself, but if you want to try and beat somebody best time it would be a cool way of doing it. Then everyone could post there time if they beat the best ghost time. Maybe it would be a hot-lap ghost chart. If anyone puts it up it's my idea ;). But it would always have the best time of that track/car on it. Maybe one day it would be a contest. See who can hold the best time and for how long. One day it could be 1:06.870 (http://www.lfsworld.net/get_spr.php?file=16743) on South city FZR, but somebody would download that ghost file, and if anyone could beat it then they would have the new record for everyone else to beat.

I'm going to make a site, and try and have this idea going, I think it would be very cool for the people that think they are the :)

SO classic / FZR
Pos Racer ST BH TH CB CC Laptime
1 biggie C w • 0:41.150
2 Sracer C w • 0:41.320
3 siurek C w 0:41.370


Then people could try and beat those if they wanted the top. Sure it's like what they already have, but it would be the ghost mod version.

[Stuff]

First off.. very nice mod Kegetys!! 4 and heif stars out of 5 :thumb:

I'd give you all 5 but I'm getting an error when I cross the finish line that won't allow me to use it. It says:

ERROR: gcPath CreateVertexBuffer failed!

Did just as it said. Copied the files to the root of my LFS folder and executed LFSGrun.exe. It connected to both InSim and OutSim and said it was ready. The split differences show up, the /ghost switches are all enabled, using 1.01, etc. What should I try next? :shrug:

[Kegetys]

Does it happen every time, for all tracks? If so, then my best guess would be running out of video memory... Sometimes it is also possible that the ghostcar gets recorded blank if you never cross the finish line during the lap to properly start the recording, which can happen by starting the race from the pits for example (I think :x). The CreateVertexBuffer will then fail because the size is 0 bytes. Re-driving a faster lap should fix it though.

For more information on what goes wrong you can look at the debug output, set the debugoutput setting to 1 in the config file and capture the output with DebugView (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html) (Set the include filter to *s2ghost* to avoid junk from other apps).

[theblackrabbi]

Are there any drivers that might be conflicting with the ghostcar d3d8.dll? I had a simular problem and it had to do with softwar I installed to make my ati card go faster.

[elecc]

Great work!

I had some troubles using Teamspeak Overlay (http://www.teamspeakoverlay.com/) after installing the Ghost Mod, because there is a collision between the d3d8.dll used by Ghost and the dxinjection method used by TSO.
The problem is, LFS uses the d3d8.dll always, so TSO will never run.

A simple fix is to copy the attached ghost.cmd to LFS root folder and use it to start LFS in Ghost Mode. The ghost.cmd is simply renaming the d3d8.dll.bak to d3d8.dll, running LFS with /insim 28888, and after closing LFS it renames the d3d8.dll to d3d8.dll.bak.
So the d3d8.dll will never affect LFS, except you will run the Ghost Mod.
TSO, Fraps etc will work fine now.

regards, elecc

[Stuff]

Well.. umm.. it works! :yipee:

At first it did the same thing when I just tried the same thing I did yesterday. But I downloaded DebugView, turned on the debugging from the config file, deleted the ghost car files so I could get a faster time :shy: and sped around. The line popped up and my ghost started following me! I have never been happier to see a ghost. :)

Now you have the other heif star you deserve!

[mkinnov8]

I'm sure this is a great app and some excellent programming from Kegetys, but i wont be using it :x Takes away from realism.
What about someone making a proper telemetry system instead of a ghost car? I know we have replay analyzer but something more in-depth

Ive used it maybe once or twice and its fun to see where I am going wrong, perhaps get me a better time. I only use it in single player mode and I think its an excellent application and really shows just what can be done with insim and outsim thingies...

I feel that a proper telementry system as you requested wont be done till S2 full or even S3 is out.

How about not turning away from something till youve tried it? I find it an excellent tool for training, particularly for new drivers, it takes nothing away from realism, many driving schools now use a system where drivers are trained with the use of a safety or pace car..

What I would like to know is, would it be possible to make this "ghost" car, physical, with collision detection, and IS it possible to swap ghost files?

Cheers, and great work... made me think is this the way to real intellegent AI.

[xaotik]

What I would like to know is, would it be possible to make this "ghost" car, physical, with collision detection, and IS it possible to swap ghost files?

The former isn't possible using insim/outsim (and even if it was then it would negate the whole purpose of having a ghostcar :) )

As for the latter, sure you can - just look in the "ghostcar\ghost" directory and you'll find the files necessary, their filenames explain which car/track combo they are relative to.

I've been eagerly waiting for the first ones to be uploaded from any fast drivers using ghostcar...

[Warryhs]

Well.. umm.. it works! :yipee:

At first it did the same thing when I just tried the same thing I did yesterday. But I downloaded DebugView, turned on the debugging from the config file, deleted the ghost car files so I could get a faster time :shy: and sped around. The line popped up and my ghost started following me! I have never been happier to see a ghost. :)

Now you have the other heif star you deserve!

I've same problem ERROR: gcPath CreateVertexBuffer failed!
and i don't understand that you maked to resolve it, my pc is amd 3800 dual core 2048 mg ram ax700 video card, and i tryed whit a 6600 gt and also don't work, in other pc works very well and in that pc i used two cards same that previos one, can you tell me about you make for solve it?
Thx

[Stuff]

Well, I'm not really about the real solution, but here's what I changed:

- I deleted all the .ghost files from ghostcar\ghost folder
x in cfg.txt I turned off OutSim. I turned it on earlier from testing a different mod :)
x in the ghostcar\config.cfg file I turned on debugging

Other than that, I dunno what else to say? :shrug:

Edit: Hmm.. I turned OutSim back on and debugging off and it still worked for me. My only advice now would be to delete the .ghost files. Maybe they are corrupt sometimes?

[Warryhs]

Thanks Stuff i try it later, really i don't understand because i've two portable pc and both are same, in one go and in other no.
i explain if can make go on.

[Warryhs]

Ok, only deleting .ghost files work perfectly, thanks Stuff.

But the version that i,ve registered don't work, i've maked a new folder and put ghost in. Only waiting a new license for next month and go fully .

[Shotglass]

But the version that i,ve registered don't work, i've maked a new folder and put ghost in. Only waiting a new license for next month and go fully .

afaik your license information is stored somewhere in the data/misc folder if you copy the files to your unlicensed lfs folder you should be able to unlock it

[mkinnov8]

The former isn't possible using insim/outsim (and even if it was then it would negate the whole purpose of having a ghostcar :) )

As for the latter, sure you can - just look in the "ghostcar\ghost" directory and you'll find the files necessary, their filenames explain which car/track combo they are relative to.

I've been eagerly waiting for the first ones to be uploaded from any fast drivers using ghostcar...

Cheers for the reply, the former question was really to see if it was possible to create an actual virtual (solid) copy of my own car, that I could race and try to beat, a step beyond the uses of ghost car, if you will.

Cheers anyway

[TagForce]

Nice tool...
Now somebody write me a raf2ghost converter so I can ghost the worldrecords :)

I might do it myself, but I'd hate fishing for the ghost format :)

[tristancliffe]

Cheers for the reply, the former question was really to see if it was possible to create an actual virtual (solid) copy of my own car, that I could race and try to beat, a step beyond the uses of ghost car, if you will.

Cheers anyway
What would happen when you touched? Obviously the ghost car cannot deviate from it's recorded path. It just couldn't work, even if you wanted it to. Shows what state the CRC is in if you're having to race yourself nowadays ;) :p

[Kegetys]

I might do it myself, but I'd hate fishing for the ghost format :)

The ghost files use the following format:

First there's a header with the following structure:

struct {
char hdr[4]; // "GHST"
float laptime; // Laptime in seconds
float sp1, sp2, sp3; // split times in seconds
int numPck; // Number of packets
int carID; // Car ID
int trackID; // Not used
} GCHEADER;


then there are numPck amount of the following structures:


struct {
float tbase; // Time in milliseonds
float x, y, z; // Position (from OutSim, in meters)
float rx, ry, rz; // Orientation (heading, pitch, roll, directly from OutSim)
float speed; // Outsim x + y velocity
} GCPACKET;


The file size must be exactly the size of GCHEADER + numPck*size of GCPACKET or the ghostcar will not be loaded.
All the motion is interpolated between the packets, so they can be saved at any rate. The mod itself currently writes them at 20FPS.
The header carID is one of the following:


0, "UNKNOWN"
1, "XF GTI"
2, "XR GT"
3, "XR GT TURBO"
4, "RB4 GT"
5, "FXO TURBO"
6, "LX4"
7, "LX6"
8, "MRT5"
9, "UF 1000"
10, "RA"
11, "FZ50"
12, "FORMULA XR"
13, "XF GTR"
14, "UF GTR"
15, "FORMULA V8"
16, "FXO GTR"
17, "XR GTR"
18, "FZ50 GTR"

[BurnOut69]

Awesome work Kegetys, keep it on! :thumb:

[TagForce]

Alright... Time to get the old Delphi out of the closet... That is of course unless anybody has any real objections about being able to race wr replays in your car?

BTW... Are you using the filename for trackID?

[Shotglass]

tag i wanted to do a converter myself but i just couldnt gather the info needed to understand how raf and outsim outputs are conected :(

[TagForce]

tag i wanted to do a converter myself but i just couldnt gather the info needed to understand how raf and outsim outputs are conected :(

When at first you don't succeed... Try, and try again... (and remember skydiving is not for you).

My guess is that they're not different, but then... I haven't even begun to check anything in game.

Ah... I see your problem... Yeah, that's going to be a tough one... But the info should be there, and it should be deductable. Even if the result is a bit funky in car behaviour.
Maybe Scawen can shed some light on this subject. Or a good search of the forums may help.

Just remember that this is the first thing I'm trying to do with games since good old SCGT... So I'm relearning Delphi as I go along.

[Shotglass]

i started a pretty unsuccessful thread to find out how those values are connected which is in the programmers section now

[Slopi]

Looked like this would be cool, from the screenshots, but as soon as I completed the first lap while running the ghost car addon, my entire comp crashed. Blue screen, minus the usual white text, with stuttering sound. So, after a cold reboot I was back up and running, but not willing to try this again.

Any advice for avoiding this issue? I'm running S2 Alpha P.

Basic Comp Stats.
Athlon 2200+
Radeon x850 XT
Creative 5.1 Gamer sound card
1gig ram

[inCogNito]

just try it again, usually it only happens the first time.

[kwijibo]

I wish I could get this working. The DLL that is supplied seems to prevent LFS from even loading for me though. It just crashes after about 3 seconds :(

[rediske]

What an amazing addon!!! Thank you Mr. Kegetys !! :thumbsup:

[Seahorse]

A stunningly userful mod. I can't tell you how much fun I have had racing myself!

Don't forget to allow it through your firewall.

I also use Pit spotter, anyone know how to run both at the same time ? Though it would be fun to race with the ghost and some AI - not tried it yet, too busy hottlaping against me:)

[PLAYLIFE]

How ot use the ghost car together with pit spotter?

[Kegetys]

You cant, its an LFS limitation (Only one InSim app works at a time for some reason). However you can switch between then in-game with the insim command, though its propably best to do it while in the menus so pitspotter/ghostcar will properly 'see' the race start and all cars joining.

[PLAYLIFE]

:(

[avih]

why would u wanna use ghostcar with pitspotter? ghostcar only works in single car mode anyway...

[Seahorse]

The documents said that it works in multiplayer...:x

[hectic]

great mod keygetys :thumb:, knew it would be a great mod from your work in lfs and richard burns rally:smileypul.

[Frags]

I get InSim::Initialise : bind failed when I type /insim 28888, does anyone know how to solve this?

I get this to... Anyone can help ??? :scratchch

[PLAYLIFE]

why would u wanna use ghostcar with pitspotter? ghostcar only works in single car mode anyway...

SO I don't have to restart the game every time I want to switch from hotlaping to multiplayer racing. Or is this unimaginable for u?

[seggons]

The documents said that it works in multiplayer...:x
I think it all comes down to how you interpretate it. I think he means that it works online as in, you can run the mod and then go online with it without turning it off. :thumb:

[avih]

@PLAYLIFE: no need for sarcasm to make a valid point.

[vrt3]

I can't get Ghostcar to work with LFS (not even /ghost help), so I set debugOutput=1 and used DebugView from Sysinternals to view the debug output. This is what it says:
[1040] S2Ghost: Load DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d8.dll
[1040] S2Ghost: --------------------------------------
[1040] S2Ghost: S2 Ghost v1.1 by Kegetys
[1040] S2Ghost: --------------------------------------
[1040]
[1040] S2Ghost: INSIM: Loading config D:\LFS_S2_ALPHA_U\ghostcar\config.cfg...
[1040]
[1040] S2Ghost: Direct3DCreate8 (ver 220)
[1040] S2Ghost: D3D Handle is 1352128
[1040] S2Ghost: CreateDevice 1352128
[1040] S2Ghost: 1 backbuffer(s): 1152x928
[1040] S2Ghost: Storing function pointers...
[1040] S2Ghost: Replacing function pointers...
[1040] S2Ghost: GetBackBuffer..
[1040] S2Ghost: GetDepthStencilSurface..
[1040] S2Ghost: InitStuff done
[1040] S2Ghost: INSIM: Connecting to 127.0.0.1:28888...
[1040] S2Ghost: INSIM: Invalid packet received.
[1040] S2Ghost: INSIM: Invalid packet received.
[1040] S2Ghost: INSIM: Timeout, retrying...
[1040] S2Ghost: INSIM: Connecting to 127.0.0.1:28888...
[1040] S2Ghost: INSIM: Invalid packet received.
[1040] S2Ghost: INSIM: Invalid packet received.
[1040] S2Ghost: INSIM: Invalid packet received.
[1040] S2Ghost: INSIM: Timeout, retrying...


I'm running LFS S2 0.5U; is Ghostcar incompatible with that version? Or could anything else be wrong?

[Rolle]

anyone knows where this can be downloaded?

his site in the first post seem to be gone ?

Thanks
Rolle

[Kegetys]

www.kegetys.net

[crabjim]

Hi Kegetys, Thanks for this great ghost mod, I really like it. Too bad I'm running Patch U30 now and I can't get this mod running :(

[MaximUK]

Works fine for me with U30

Maxim

[Eggi]

wtf! You are everywhere Kegetys oO

DXDLL was a great Job by the way ;)

greetz

one of the AEF Team (OFP) :)

[crabjim]

Works fine for me with U30

Maxim

I think I might need to reconfigure....Thx anyway

[kwijibo]

I wish I could get this working. The DLL that is supplied seems to prevent LFS from even loading for me though. It just crashes after about 3 seconds :(

Almost a year later, I figured out what was wrong :D Having just got a new pc, I figured surely it will work now. It didnt.

Turns out running xfire conflicts with that DLL, so just turned off xfire whilst I ran ghostcar solved the prob!

Might be a few others out there who could give it a try

[MaximUK]

Almost a year later, I figured out what was wrong :D Having just got a new pc, I figured surely it will work now. It didnt.

Turns out running xfire conflicts with that DLL, so just turned off xfire whilst I ran ghostcar solved the prob!

Might be a few others out there who could give it a try

It was ATI Tools that initially stopped it working for me.

Maxim

[VoiD]

Same here, but I use AtiTrayTools.
Imo the d3d8.dll fails to work with the mentioned programs. Ghostcar seems to be incompatible now...

[webwing]

I never thought a ghost car add on would help me so much in improving my lap times. Fantastic!
Great work Kegety!!! Thanks a lot!

[m4vrick]

THis is a great little mod. Helped me a lot.
However, im running it in Vista and every time i set a lap record LFS crashes. Any ideas?

THanks

[Peptis]

THis is a great little mod. Helped me a lot.
However, im running it in Vista and every time i set a lap record LFS crashes. Any ideas?

THanks

Drive slower :razz: :)

[(SaM)]

Drive slower :razz: :)

Are you running the latest patch? U33

[m4vrick]

i was running u34, ill try it with u35 now. For some reason i really think it has something to do with Vista. It seems that every time i set a PB, it writes something to the drive, and thats whats causing the error. I did try to run the program with Administrative privledges but I got same crash when setting PB.

[m4vrick]

yep, just tried with u35 and even turned firewall off. Same crash. Soon ill beat WR and won't be able to see the problem again. I guess thats a solution. :)

[Peptis]

Is the ghost directory set to read only? I've seen programs crash when they attempt to write to a file that they can't.

[m4vrick]

Ill check when I get home, but even though it crashes it still stores the PB.
So its writing to it, just crashes at same time too.

[Hamed Sam]

link in post 1 has a problem !! another link please.

[(SaM)]

Fixed.

[SSSGOKU]

wish u just have made this alot sooner lol

[--==Gogo==--]

Since the HiRes Mirrors in Patch V2 the ghostcar is not displayed in the mirrors anymore.

Would be great if this could be fixed.

[daniav09]

when the game menu start up the game was stop to respond

[Pablo.CZ]

In V5 patch ghost files are stored like BL1..ghost, not BL1.XRR.ghost (separatelly for each car) - probably LFS doesnt report currently used car just like before.

[Hankwall]

Since the HiRes Mirrors in Patch V2 the ghostcar is not displayed in the mirrors anymore.

Would be great if this could be fixed.

I can not see it in the mirrors but I see it in the middle of the cockpickt.

It looks it does not know where is the mirror.

I hope it will be fixed. It is a very usefull tool.

[jscorrea]

Please,

This mod not work with patch W?

Not for me.

JS

[jscorrea]

Please,

Anybody uses this mod with patch W?

Regards,

JS

[birder]

I just tried it and it does not work in W for me either

Any ideas?

[dmarko]

I have tried with patch W..
It works,but line does not display ok on the track,test with XRR and ghost car is XFG?Time works,but it display "New ghost car record".And i see green and red stripes in the car,on the instrument table (behind)..
Any chance for this great add-on to work with new patch?

[gohfeld23]

Any news on this one?
Kegetys still working on this or is it a dead project?

[jscorrea]

Kegetys please, the Ghost Addon is a great idea to training offline!

Please Help us!

JS

[dmarko]

Made some progress with Patch W.
Make raf file,then use raf-ghost converter found on the forum,rename new ghost file (e.g. AS1.XFR.ghost to AS1..ghost),and after that it works...but only one car per track...

[Peptis]

Yes, I have noticed the same thing. I think it's because LFS changed how it reported the names of the cars via InSim in the latest official patch. Ghost doesn't understand the new names, so it defaults to a blank string.

[Trail]

Ghost car is a poor name.It´s more a "Real time 3D Holographic Telemetry set".
Great tool.:thumb:
We already have aceleration,deceleration,position in the track and path of the car in the lap.Can we have too,maybe in a corner of the screen,gear,RPM and speed?
You give the finger,the guys wants the hand,You give the hand the guys wants the arms...:D

[NorbertS45]

Unfortunately Ghostcar doesn't run with Patch X anymore.

:sadbanana

If Kegetys reads this ... PLEASE MAKE ME HAPPY and update your wonderful LFS-Mod. I'm a beginner and it's a great help for me to improve my driving skills by driving with the Ghostcar.

Best regards,
Norbert

[jscorrea]

Kegetys :shrug:

[PLAYLIFE]

Kegetys, I love your ghost car and pit spotter mods. Please make them work again :)

[RedQuad]

:shy: Kegetys..........

[eL_KeCks]

Kegetys last update is 1/2 year ago, maybe he left lfs :(
So it's up to the devs to fill up this hole :scratchch

[rediske]

please would you update the ghostcar mod mr. kegetys :bowdown: please please please?

[Pumuky]

Will be any update for LFSGhostcar under X versión ???

thanks.

[siamtiger]

To be honest, the ghost car would be a absolutely great feature for the hotlapping mode that should be included as an official feature.

[(SaM)]

Could an someone close this thread please, there will be no update of Ghost Car until further notice and this thread is only filling with requests for that update.

[Blue-Ray]

To be honest, the ghost car would be a absolutely great feature for the hotlapping mode that should be included as an official feature.

Perhaps related to why it isn't included: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/1489/hard_drivin_hard_bargainin_.php

[delray25]

Perhaps related to why it isn't included: link

Oh no, what a bummer. It really is a great feature.

Anyway, good research work Blue-Ray :thumb: Interesting read.

[qoncept]

I'm interested in trying to maintain this, anyone know how to get ahold of kegetys?

[RedQuad]

I'm interested in trying to maintain this, anyone know how to get ahold of kegetys?

http://phobos.no-ip.com:10080/~Kegetys/personal.php?p=gbook:shrug:

Sorry for the shameless bump, but I think it was a great addition to LFS.

[qoncept]

Doesn't look like he's responded in quite a while. I actually emailed him a few weeks ago and never got a reply. :\

[Ulisse]

See here :nod:

http://www.kegetys.net/forum/index.php?board=1.0

[daigoro007]

help guys, i tried running this and keep getting a messege 'first byte in pocket does not match size'

[(SaM)]

help guys, i tried running this and keep getting a messege 'first byte in pocket does not match size'

Read the thread. It's not compatible with the current version of LFS anymore.

Admins/Mods, please close this thread.