Yes i know another poll, controller?

[Theafro]

it's been asked before (RSC) but i'm gonna ask again out of my own curiosity.

[Boris Lozac]

Wheel, the only real way to play this "game" .. ;)

[Unclefloug]

im currently savig for logitech wheel, but right now im using a ps2 gamepad, it's not to bad but it doesn't centre well so driving down a long stright is a nightmare!

[speedykev]

wheel and Keyboard :shhh:

[strato12345]

wow im the only1 with KB!! well today or tomorrow im gonna order wheel and pedals and new processor :P

[snewham]

wheel, but I used to play with the keyboard and thoroughly hated driving the LX4, LX6, FO8, FOX because of it. The only way to really enjoy this game is to use a wheel.

[Qurpiz]

Driving Force Pro.
The way it's meant to be :)

[Bob Smith]

I think the poll results say alot about the community. We're all mad :D

[XCNuse]

im still stunned that with the current 71 votes on this poll.. that there still hasnt been a single non FF wheel yet!

[Asmo]

Wheel (spring) http://www.lfsforum.net/images/polls/bar6-l.gifhttp://www.lfsforum.net/images/polls/bar6.gifhttp://www.lfsforum.net/images/polls/bar6-r.gif 11.35%


am i alone ? :D

[tristancliffe]

so far, yes

:chair:

[dontsimon]

I use the force.

[sil3ntwar]

pedals + mouse

[Infiniti]

Momo racing ffb 200% no spring back force in games, with gas and brake pedals, wheel paddles for shifting, sequence shifter back (towards me) is handbrake and forwards is clutch, i use auto clutch though until i get clutch pedal. And s2 full for the matter too lol. S2 first of course.

[_--NZ--_[HUN]]

Here is my mouse config (until I get a decent FFB wheel):

[Theafro]

20% of LFS users don't own a FFB wheel, hmm
i've seen loads more keyboard players online than the 2% we got in the poll
KB users are less likeley to participate in community goings on i suppose.

mouse + pedals sound interesting!

How many peeps have a clutch + shifter tho' ( ishould have added that one in the poll) for MAXIMUM realism.

[Bob Smith]

Maximum realism would include a motion simulator. ;)

[BWX232]

Dfp!!

[pb32000]

Maximum realism would include a motion simulator. ;)

To be completely realistic you would need something to create g-forces for everything, acceleration, braking, crashing etc. Not even the force-dynamics (I think that's what it's called) system creates a true realistic simulation. Problem is by the time you start spending big amounts of money you could almost go out and race for real when yuo wanted.

[SarcasmO]

I use a momo force (red one).
Really like it, especially the leather 8)
I also have a dfp but can't seem to get it to work like it should, i also like the pedals of the momo more.
And soon ofcourse a logitech force 3d for shifting :D

[isamu]

Hello. I just started playing this game today. I don't have an FF wheel yet, so I gotta use an analog gamepad called the NeGcon from Namco. http://www.thocp.net/software/games/consoles/sony/pictures/playstation_negcon_controller_large.jpg


My question is, is it worth playing LFS with a gamepad? I'm just not enjoying it so far and the cars are suffering from severe understeer.

How do I give the cars a bit more grip and less understeer?

I'll be getting the Speed 7 FF wheel from BRD in November BTW :)

[WGooden]

The servere understeer is typical for people who first play the game. You probably steer the car full lock when you're going into a corner thinking its the best way to get around. It just takes some practice and you'll realize that you only need to steer slightly, the smoother you drive the faster you'll get. You can try turning your steering sensitivity down a bit also.

[Doorman]

pedals + mouse

Now that's novel. :)

[B2B@300]

Isamu ive been playing lfs with an xbox controller for over a year now.. had similar bad experiences at first until i realised that u only need a very small amount of steering input to actually get around the track (ie on BLGP with GTi I ended up only using "Max Steering Lock" of 9 deg) nowdays I've managed to get a better driver that allows me to lessen the steering input sensetivity on the controller. With max steering lock set to 9 deg you will find you have much more control at the central position for straight line driving and more prescion in the corners, the only downside is if you spin you dont have much steering lock to turn around again LOL so my solution is DONT SPIN :P

[Neokiller]

wheel but i used KB in the old demo version.

[rich uk]

ffb wheel and pedals for clutch. and non ff pedals for accel/brake

[tpa]

iirc the quickest guys in gpl were using pedals + joystick. Would be kinda cool in LFS, with a nice FF Joystick :trampolin

[DjeMz]

Probably been covered before, but i havnt seen anything yet, what do you use to play lfs, Keyboard, mouse, joystick, steering wheel/pedal, game controler or other?

I was looking into getting a wheel/cutch pedals but im unsure which are compadible with LFS.

Cheers

[Jakg]

Well most wheels are compatible, although i would recomend the G25, Momo or DFP from Logitech, Momo and DFP are about £50 and work great, while the G25 is much better and comes with 3 pedals, its £150

I did write a guide here (http://www.overclock.net/faqs/126852-opinion-racing-wheel-should-i-get.html#post1369869)

[S14 DRIFT]

I voted what I used to use ... and what I intend to when I make my racing return ... :D

[spankmeyer]

I vote 'other' as in 'this poll is useless and it surely has been covered before so why did you think you're above the Law, above the God, above the Using-The-Frigging-Search-Button-And-Save-Some-Bandwith-Please so get some common sense before Santa's little elves peek through your bedroom window and photograph you naked in front of your Backstreet Boys poster collection'.

[DjeMz]

I vote 'other' as in 'this poll is useless and it surely has been covered before so why did you think you're above the Law, above the God, above the Using-The-Frigging-Search-Button-And-Save-Some-Bandwith-Please so get some common sense before Santa's little elves peek through your bedroom window and photograph you naked in front of your Backstreet Boys poster collection'.

Im sure thats what you all do back in your country mate, READ the first post, Im pretty SURE its a repost, but carefactor = 0.

[Blackout]

Im sure thats what you all do back in your country mate

Be careful or you'll have 3,7% of LFSers on your troath...

And about the topic, it's eaten to bone years ago! When you come in late it doesn't mean the party just started for you.

[Bob Smith]

Im pretty SURE its a repost, but carefactor = 0.

Ah but now I do, this is why I've just merged this thread with the earlier poll. :)

[sgt.flippy]

DFP!!!

But I want a G25 (yea, who doesn't?)!

[spacedeck]

Wel I use the mouse + keyboard atm! I can't afford to buy a good wheel:( Would love to be able to afford the G25 but not everyone is made of money

[GianniC]

Back to keyboard.. :schwitz:

[Stew2000]

My sig says it all.
I so want the G25 :D

[The General Lee]

Keyboard and mouse :schwitz:

but, getting a wheel soon. :smileypul

[faster111]

Keyboard and mouse :schwitz:

but, getting a wheel soon. :smileypul
same as my settings i have a keyboard and mouse

[Captain Slow]

i have a relativly cheap FFb wheel. its quite good and i have no major problems with it. although sometimes it sounds as if im snapping the pedals. its a logitech.

[BWX232]

I was looking into getting a wheel/cutch pedals but im unsure which are compadible with LFS.

Cheers


Get a G25!!

[TyresHot]

wheels makes me tired so i use mouse usually :)

[JasonJ]

I used to be quite good on the old Ks. But 8 weeks of LFS soon wrecked me tendons in my wrists. :hihi: So I went for my Sony PS2 Pad / USB connector. Got it to actually go straight to.:smileypul Pretty awesome to drive now.

I got a spring wheel/peddels. I just choose not to use it. I find it a bit cumbersome. Also, I use the 3rd Person / Chase View to drive, so wheel control sorta feels bizaar.

[BWX232]

Yeah in my left hand sometimes tendons near my wrist hurt if I race to long- in any game, be it LFS, RBR, rF, or GTR2.. Gotta watch that.. or turn the forces down if it gets too bad.

[robt]

my wrist always hurts using keys after an hour, my hand is usually turned up at a 70 degree angle, or as far as itll go, it really can be a pain, but hey, whatever makes me faster has to be done :shrug::pillepall i dont have room or money for a wheel, ill be around on keys for a while, ill end up the last keys player with an S2 license!

[MR_B]

my wrist always hurts using keys after an hour, my hand is usually turned up at a 70 degree angle, or as far as itll go, it really can be a pain, but hey, whatever makes me faster has to be done :shrug::pillepall i dont have room or money for a wheel, ill be around on keys for a while, ill end up the last keys player with an S2 license!

LOL rob, at this moment there's the same number of people that use a JOYSTICK! as a keyboard...

Why not play by using voice recognition (if possible) ..... anymore un-realistic driving controllers?...joystick..... :biggrinfl

[robt]

lol brad, voice recognition? would it turn more depending on how panicky your voice sounded? :scratchch
I seem to enjoy keyboard, its more fulfilling when you thrash a bunch of wheel users.

[MR_B]

I'd Love to try that!! Do a charity event by someone kindly developing the system then people donate so much cash depending on how many laps you manage to complete over 24hours (making sure you keep withing 107% of your best laps though)

*copyrighted* :P

[BWX232]

Why not play by using voice recognition (if possible) .....




Flight Assistant 2.2
Flight Assistant is a program that provides
a virtual co-pilot for flight simulation
enthusiasts. You can give commands using a
microphone which the co-pilot executes then.
The program works in combination with
every flight simulation. Requires MS Speech
SDK 5.1 (SAPI). By Timm Linder.


http://www.linder-network.de/thelindercompany/html/english/flightassistant.html



Oh- it is free...

[OneCrazyDiamond]

Wheel with force feedback is the only way to really enjoy this game to its full extent. :)

[JasonJ]

LOL - I picked Joystick - I should have picked Gamepad - So:
GamePad +1
Joy -1 :shrug:

You guys complaining of pain in you hands etc. That's your body saying - "Ahem dude, stop - this is damaging you internal nerves/tendons/muscles"

Dont say - anything to go faster... Omg! Trust me > change you technique, take a break, adopt a new controller, something, anything!!!
I ignored my pain, now i cant even hold a mouse for 1 minute without it biting me. This pain has continued for like 12 months 24/7 . It's seriously not worth it.

[DFS_MadFred]

Well atm I am using my old and badly worn Logitech Formula Force GP
But the G-25 is ordered, payed for and on it's way... can't wait to get my greasy paws on it :thumb:

[BWX232]

Well atm I am using my old and badly worn Logitech Formula Force GP
But the G-25 is ordered, payed for and on it's way... can't wait to get my greasy paws on it :thumb:

Holy crap- I have a Formula Force GP (Driving force original), a Black Momo Racing, and a DFP.. You are taking a gargantuan step up going from your wheel to the G25.. You are going to be blown away. :thumb:

[Zero7]

I generally play with a keyboard and mouse, but I've got a Logitech Formula FFB wheel, but this only comes out once in a while. Also thinking of getting a gamepad for rF as k/b is dire for that game.

[DjeMz]

are the PS2 stlye controlers any good? like can u control throttle with the X button or only the 'joystick'?

[Stew2000]

are the PS2 stlye controlers any good? like can u control throttle with the X button or only the 'joystick'?
You can control with any of the 12 buttons or sticks.
I use the sticks, left stick for steer and right stick for gas & brake :D
The downside is no vibration.
But it works well.

[DjeMz]

is there no vibration because LFS is not compadible?

[DjeMz]

oh and would any cheap ps2 style off ebay do the trick?

say like this

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/10-KEY-USB-PC-DUAL-SHOCK-GAME-CONTROLLER-JOYPAD-GAMEPAD_W0QQitemZ260051423298QQihZ016QQcategoryZ74 943QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or would the logitech be a better option

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Logitech-Dual-Action-Digital-and-Analog-USB-PC-Gamepad_W0QQitemZ280047987591QQihZ018QQcategoryZ74 943QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Stew2000]

oh and would any cheap ps2 style off ebay do the trick?

say like this

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/10-KEY-USB-PC-DUAL-SHOCK-GAME-CONTROLLER-JOYPAD-GAMEPAD_W0QQitemZ260051423298QQihZ016QQcategoryZ74 943QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or would the logitech be a better option

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Logitech-Dual-Action-Digital-and-Analog-USB-PC-Gamepad_W0QQitemZ280047987591QQihZ018QQcategoryZ74 943QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I use a PS2/N64 joypad Converter (this: XK-PC2004 (http://www.xinga.com/shop/show.php?product=PC2004))

I have no vibration because I can't find any drivers for it, But XP recognises it as a normal game device.

[DjeMz]

yeh i have seen them ps2 to pc converters lying around but they seem to be the same price as buying a new controler

[Zero7]

oh and would any cheap ps2 style off ebay do the trick?

say like this

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/10-KEY-USB-PC-DUAL-SHOCK-GAME-CONTROLLER-JOYPAD-GAMEPAD_W0QQitemZ260051423298QQihZ016QQcategoryZ74 943QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or would the logitech be a better option

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Logitech-Dual-Action-Digital-and-Analog-USB-PC-Gamepad_W0QQitemZ280047987591QQihZ018QQcategoryZ74 943QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I've been looking at the Logitech Dual Action Gamepad as these have two analog sticks and loads of buttons. Cheap as chips as well :)

[JasonJ]

are the PS2 stlye controlers any good? like can u control throttle with the X button or only the 'joystick'?
ANYTHANG YA WANT. ANY STYLE YA WANT. Gas=[x] or Gas=Sticks

Yeh- its awesome. I managed to make my PS2 PAD with standard XP drivers make my car even PIT / LEAVE PITS / CHANGE VIEW / CHANGE CAR FOCUS / F1 - F4 keys /
ALL if which (BTW) un-changable in LFS.

ie: View = "V" key (cant modify this in LFS)

But I managed to Assign View(V) it to the TRIANGLE button. I used a fantastic free program called JOYTOKEY (on google)
Edit:
http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key/JoyToKey%20English%20Version.htm
http://www.oneswitch.org.uk/2/I/JoyToKey/JoyToKey.htm
You can assign any joystick press to any keyboard/mouse function. It would probably also work with steering wheels and Joysticks. You might get a program such as this when you purcahse a USB PS2 style joypad. If you dont - use it - its free.

[Hyperactive]

Wheel (spring) here.

I have a dfp but atm. it feels just too odd for me to use it. And after 7 years of driving with my MS wheel it means that any change won't be an easy one. But I'll try harder when I have modded the dfp ;)

[DjeMz]

is force feedback a must? or will traditional spring do the job?

ps i cant get a wheel/pedal just let; nursing broken leg!

[Joris]

I've got a Thrustmaster dual trigger. A ps2-like controler with xbox-like triggers. Excelent brake and throttle control with the split axis.

Highly recommended for anyone who doesn't have the money, space nor relationship to have a wheel. (al apply on me).

[mrodgers]

is force feedback a must? or will traditional spring do the job?

ps i cant get a wheel/pedal just let; nursing broken leg!
If you've never used a wheel for a racing sim, then you would be amazed at an old center sprung style wheel. You will be flippin out at how awesome it is. You will be having a blast thinking it is sooooo cool that it is like driving.

Move on to a force feedback wheel after playing with that center sprung wheel and it's those thoughts all over again x100. Now you start to feel the car. You don't go by visual cues that the back end is swinging out. You go by what the wheel is doing. You feel understeer and over steer. You feel the brakes locking up. You get so much more feedback using an FF wheel over a center sprung wheel it is ridiculous.

If you don't yet have a wheel, don't even think about a non-force feedback wheel. If you would ever upgrade in the future, you will be kicking yourself for not getting force feedback to begin with.

[pearcy_2k7]

I thought it would be interesting to see what people use for LFS, for example i use a keyboard :dunce:.....

[Indiana Jim]

I use a joystick but the option isn't available. So, I marked "other".

Someday when I get rich enough I'll buy a wheel. :nod:

[GeForz]

Ans there are some Mouse-driver, too

[Smurfen]

g25 ftw!!

[GP4Flo]

I'm usually driving with my G25. Except when I'm on travel, keyboard is more practicable then, but also some secs slower. ;)

[Jakg]

was using a G25, but since it died i'm back on my Momo :(

[LFSn00b]

g25 ftw!!MS FF FTW! :ices_rofl

[The Moose]

MS FF FTW!

+1 :)

[Albieg]

I thought this poll was about the best or most used tools/mods for LFS. It's not, so I'm unable to pay my tribute to Kegetys (and others). I'll pay my tribute to some hardware manufacturers, then:
- Logitech for G25
- Enermax for the wonderfully stylish and precise Aurora keyboard
More could be named, but it's not related to controllers.

[pearcy_2k7]

Sorry guys i am a newbie and am unaware of the steering options people use:D
I am now saving up for a steering wheel... but ive not decided which one to go for :scratchch

[keithano]

Sorry guys i am a newbie and am unaware of the steering options people use:D
I am now saving up for a steering wheel... but ive not decided which one to go for :scratchch

Im using DFP.
Have a look on Jakg's guide
http://www.overclock.net/1369869-post1.html
pretty good

[Jakg]

If you want to know which wheel to buy, have a look at the link in my sig

[keithano]

If you want to know which wheel to buy, have a look at the link in my sig

lol..faster than ya :D

[Bob Smith]

I thought it would be interesting to see what people use for LFS, for example i use a keyboard :dunce:.....

We already have a thread on this, threads merged. :)

[Crashgate3]

im currently savig for logitech wheel, but right now im using a ps2 gamepad, it's not to bad but it doesn't centre well so driving down a long stright is a nightmare!

Superglue a small stick (about an inch long) to the thumbpad and it gives you much better coordination.

[The General Lee]

Keyboard and mouse :schwitz:

but, getting a wheel soon. :smileypul

Got a wheel about a month ago...and a big slap on the forehead for whoever resurrected this thread :really:

**EDIT**
My apologise. Bob...You da man! :P

[kenyks324]

Wheel (spring) http://www.lfsforum.net/images/polls/bar6-l.gifhttp://www.lfsforum.net/images/polls/bar6.gifhttp://www.lfsforum.net/images/polls/bar6-r.gif 11.35%


am i alone ? :D
ur not alone :P i have the spring wheel which is not good but what the hey atleast i got one :P (NASCAR wheel)

[ATC Quicksilver]

I use a ps2 pad simply because I don't have space for a wheel and won't waste that much money on something I won't use. Although being able to feel when the car is about to slide rather than guessing would be useful.

[Gil07]

Logitech Rumblepad 2 here... It's quite good when I'm not pressing the wrong button again :shy:

[Venus]

I don't know why ppl use mouse over joystick. Simply cause in joystick you have analogue control of throttle n brake. I spose its possible to do that with a mouse ; but jeez it'd be a pain. I wanna wheel... desperately.

V