View Full Version : MecaniK S2 - v0.5P
Fonnybone
22nd November 2005, 02:30
Disclaimer: MecaniK is a work in progress so it might not work well for everyone. It can be used online, as long as all clients
have the exact same mods as the server. More importantly, using MecaniK online, WILL change your personal
online stats (LFSWorld). Also, although HotLap can be uploaded, it is illegal to do so. If you've accidently uploaded an
illegal hotlap, remove as quickly as possible. Users intentionally uploading an illegal hotlap risk being BANNED !!!
Please be responsible ...
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Ok, i've decided that i'm releasing this 'early' version to iron out the final bugs. All seems to work ok at this point and i mostly
need you guys to try it out and see what problems or bugs come up so i can move to other things.So now, the reason why
you are here, this IS MecaniK S2.. It's based on LFS 0.5P, so it WON'T
work correctly on any test patches. If you DO use a test patch, you'll NEED to have a copy of the v0.5P LFS.exe in the LFS
folder and the ABC.abc file. MecaniK doesn't need to be in the same folder as LFS. Oh ya, i almost forgot, it also works
with the demo cars :nod:
RELEASE - v.P02 ---------------------------
- Fixed MRT5 load/save/editing
- Fixed Loading of presets
- Changes to the LFS/CAR checks to help it detect a car
- Various little bug fixes and changes
TROUBLESHOOTING ---------------------------------------------------------
General -----------> http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=43208#post43208
-------------------> http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=43348#post43348
comdlg32.ocx -----> http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=42722#post42722
msstdfmt.dll -------> http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=53649#post53649
-------------------> http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=43381#post43381
LFS/CAR is red -----> http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=62740#post62740
-------------------> http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=48029#post48029
LFS.exe & ABC.abc --> http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=49866#post49866
naskavu
22nd November 2005, 03:41
I choose my car in lfs, but it doesnt show in MecaniK any help ?
seggons
22nd November 2005, 03:52
LFS 0.5P patch if anyone needs it :):
http://liveforspeed.net/download/LFS_S2_ALPHA_PATCH_P5.zip
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 04:12
erm...just a question...what does this program do??
and how to use it? :)
huh, i tried to start it but it says:
run time error 339
component comdlg32.ocx or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid
....so? whats up with that?
seggons
22nd November 2005, 04:27
I choose my car in lfs, but it doesnt show in MecaniK any help ?
I got the same :scratchch
seggons
22nd November 2005, 04:30
Boosted']erm...just a question...what does this program do??
and how to use it? :)
huh, i tried to start it but it says:
run time error 339
component comdlg32.ocx or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid
....so? whats up with that?
The program modifies diffrent values of the car you select. SO you could put something like a V10 lump in it :p
download this:
http://www.ascentive.com/support/new/images/lib/COMDLG32.OCX
and put that and macanik in your LFS folder :)
Edit: works with the LFS 0.5P Demo
Does not work with 0.5P2, 0.5P3 or 0.5P5
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 04:35
thanks i found it already :p i downloaded the missing file :shy:
but it says for me too not car selected
when i start mecanik without lfs it says start lfs 0.3P?!
Fonnybone
22nd November 2005, 04:43
Ok, i'll check it out, maybe i send a bad version :(
You can always try changing cars to see if it finds it
else try opening LFS first, then MecaniK, then try the opposite.
I think it's just a problem with the carcheck timer not even turning on..
As for the files, i guess i'll start now, thanks for posting them btw,
i'll add them to my download and add my old ReadMe too. I never
learn, hehe
Edit: It works for me, but i noticed some issues, the first time it doesn't
seem to register the car, but if i change car once, then it's fine. Tell me if any
of this helps or not. If you're having problems, please post this info also :
1- LFS.exe version (yes im serious, you wouldn't believe how often it can happen)
2- Demo or Full ?
3- Is there a car name displayed in that top window/testbox
I just want to reduce the number of fixed i release, so if you have different problems, i want to know.
Thanks in advance ;)
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 04:48
hmm i tried to start the prog first and to start lfs first, but it didnt make any difference.
it always says no car selected.
tried with almost every car.
and why it says LFS 0.3P? shouldnt it be 0.5P?
TaiFong
22nd November 2005, 04:56
Uhhh, why is no one going nuts over this!? Amazing! Thank you. :)
Fonnybone
22nd November 2005, 04:59
Boosted']when i start mecanik without lfs it says start lfs 0.3P?!
Ya that's a typo, i just saw it, it should read 0.5P.
Taifong, it works well for you ?
I'd appreciate if everyone who's tried it could tell me if it's working or not.
I need to know some of you have no problems too, i was starting to think the
download was just bad, but it seems to work ok for me.
TaiFong
22nd November 2005, 05:12
Ya that's a typo, i just saw it, it should read 0.5P.
Taifong, it works well for you ?
I'd appreciate if everyone who's tried it could tell me if it's working or not.
I need to know some of you have no problems too, i was starting to think the
download was just bad, but it seems to work ok for me.
Yes it works fine for me. The only problem I see so far is the decimal thing. I'm testing as we speak.
Are you planning on including the features present in your older versions? Namely tire/wheel adjustment, Cx adjustment, Turbo, etc?
Fonnybone
22nd November 2005, 05:20
This is MecaniK, not LFSTweak. MecaniK only edits cartype data and
the usefull stuff is pretty much there. I'll dig for the ReadMe...
Oh well, at least it worked for one person, two if i include myself :I
TaiFong
22nd November 2005, 05:22
This is MecaniK, not LFSTweak. MecaniK only edits cartype data and
the usefull stuff is pretty much there. I'll dig for the ReadMe...
Oh well, at least it works one person, two if i include myself :I
Oh I understand now. Well it's working flawlessly for me at the moment. Thanks again! I'll let you know if I run into anything.
By the way, you can override the decimal bug by simply copying/pasting the desired decimal value from another source. (The comments box works great for this) :)
Fonnybone
22nd November 2005, 05:30
Ok, i might have something, you guys having problems, you using a language other than english ? I'm reading the 3letter ID of the cars
to identify them. If you use different caracters, it wouldn't work..
i didn't think of this before.
TaiFong
22nd November 2005, 05:35
Alright, so MecaniK does not properly modify the MRT5. None of the values had any effect in-game.
sil3ntwar
22nd November 2005, 05:54
awesome tool but im out of unlocks because someone deleted my 0.5P install :(
I wanted to edit the FO8
detail
22nd November 2005, 05:54
Can't load a preset. Editing is weird, I put cursor in the middle, press a number key, the number appears in the line, but the cursor jumps to the line home! Absolutely weird editing! Sorry, but it is definitely unusable.
I made an effort and typed the WRC presets. It is strange, the redline is too short, just 2500 rpm on any car. For what car is it?
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 06:09
i wish i would know how to get it working... have patch 0.5P but yeah...im always lucky with mods they wont ever work for me :(
Fonnybone
22nd November 2005, 06:16
Can't load a preset. Editing is weird, I put cursor in the middle, press a number key, the number appears in the line, but the cursor jumps to the line home! Absolutely weird editing! Sorry, but it is definitely unusable.
I made an effort and typed the WRC presets. It is strange, the redline is too short, just 2500 rpm on any car. For what car is it?
Ok, presets i fixed i believe, it wasn't loading properly indeed. I could
swear i fixed this but oh well.
The editing window cursor thing is because i auto format the values so
they remain within defined bounds. It annoys me too, but until i fix it,
try to deal with it, it could be worse, it could crash ! Click and drag
over digits one at a time and it'll be fine.
I'm about to make a debugging app to get some actual info out of you
guys :p I'll post a small update within the hour possibly, i changed a few
important things, i'm mostly trying to get the car check working first.
As for the F1 and WRC presets included, they are tests for another app i'm
planning. Once MecaniK works and people start making presets, i'd like to
be able to come up with 5-6 various 'spec' series presets. My idea is to create a simple
app with only buttons for servers/clients to use. This would help make modded server
races more accessible and much more stable since all apps will apply the same values.
Once the presets are chosen, i'd hard-code the values in the other app so that clicking
a button applies this preset (or many together depending ; "FIA" button could mod all
cars to fit within 3 specific FIA groups for example). I think it will be easier to make
most cars at once so that only one button can be used at a time, that way the server
only needs to add one MOD name in the server name for clients to be able to mod properly
then join. Else it gets complicated and the idea is to keep it simple.
The F1 preset mods the FO8 and FOX, FO8 is a quick attempt at a real F1 and the FOX just
tries to follow, this one didn't turn out great, but carefull useage of limits could make both cars
closer in performance . The WRC preset, on the other hand turned out much closer to what i was
thinking. It mods cartype1 (i.e:you need to select cartype1 to be able to load it). I used some simple
guidelines like all cars should have a 2.0L 4cylinder, awd and around 400bhp'. The main idea is to
help make custom but controlled online races, race series or simply to have fun in a proper set of
WRC cars, in the rallycross.
Edit: Man, that last part was a left over i hadn't deleted, it repeated itself, lol. I rewrote it a bit, sorry 'bout that.
sil3ntwar
22nd November 2005, 06:17
Can't load a preset. Editing is weird, I put cursor in the middle, press a number key, the number appears in the line, but the cursor jumps to the line home! Absolutely weird editing! Sorry, but it is definitely unusable.that is to stop you from editing in a value that LFS wont accept. It is extremely annoying and a very bad way to do it (sorry fonny but it is). Fonnybone i suggest you do a check when the user clicks apply to make sure the values are correct. I tried to do it the way your doing it in a program i was making last night before i realised it became very frustrating to use.
Excellenct job though mate! :thumb:
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 06:17
good to hear :D
sil3ntwar
22nd November 2005, 06:26
a small video will be here in a few minutes: http://www.sil3ntwar.com/rippingitup-lowlow.avi
its crap quality yet still rather large file size IMO. I suck at encoding :(
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 06:32
OMG 380.... i WANT that mod workingggggggggg :D
sil3ntwar
22nd November 2005, 06:35
Just got the FO8 to 400 on the BL backstraight with full downforce ;) about to try it on the oval...
Edit:
420 full downforce on oval. almost 5gs through the corners and the r4s turn totally green after about two corners. No downforce = 450+ then crash ;)
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 06:36
stop hurting me ahhhhhhhhhhhhh lol
Fonnybone
22nd November 2005, 06:59
Just got the FO8 to 400 on the BL backstraight with full downforce ;) about to try it on the oval...
Edit:
420 full downforce on oval. almost 5gs through the corners and the r4s turn totally green after about two corners. No downforce = 450+ then crash ;)
Hehe, finally, i might not have to do that alone anymore ! Did you
bend the FO8 suspension yet ? :)
Ok, i made a small update, it's worth it you all try it, i left the older one
there in case. I might need to do this a couple of time, but it shouldn't
be too long, MecaniK is a relatively simple app.
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 07:03
still dont find the car.
sil3ntwar
22nd November 2005, 07:28
broken suspension? only from crashing... it does bottom out at around 370 unless you raise the car.
Small vid with ai ;) http://www.sil3ntwar.com/lfs/vids/lol.avi
and my F1 preset: http://www.sil3ntwar.com/lfs/F1LOL.ct4
cant get the 900BHP at 18000 though :(
Boosted make a copy of your LFS dir then replace the exe with the original S2 exe. It has to be the original that came in the 129meg zip file. Also you might need to replace you abc dir with the old one if your using one of the latest patches.
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 07:34
well....i think then i go ahead and download the game again.
less work ;)
in 17 min i will know if that helps :)
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 08:01
yay it works!!! :D currently driving XFG at 500 hp :D
nvm, replaced abc and exe, now it works with my slickmod version too all cars :D
Matrixi
22nd November 2005, 08:23
P10 here, didn't work. Car not found. Downloading 0.5P again to see if it works :)
*Edit:
Works purrrr-fect with 0.5P, good job :thumb:
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 08:49
haha... FO8 610 KMH at blackwood straight :D
man it rox ;)
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 09:17
hmm what about using it online?
does it work? and when how?
FPVaaron
22nd November 2005, 09:56
:D :D :D
Was going 530km down the oval straights and the right side of the suspension bent from the turns.
nikimere
22nd November 2005, 10:02
might be a good idea to put a quick overview of the app in the 1st post. nice work though! :thumb:
Theafro
22nd November 2005, 10:10
now downloading old version of S2, i can definately confirm it won't work with anything P2 onwards :really:
will edit post with a :thumb: if it works. thanks dude!
[edit]
YAY.... got it working with S2P no real bugs found yet. nice one dude, you're a legend:D
Montana
22nd November 2005, 11:24
Here is the old exe and abc file, so that you don't have to dload the whole game again :)
Breizh
22nd November 2005, 11:48
This is so much fun...
V10 formula beast
3L 1cyl rwd UF
regular FXR except 2cyl sound :p
911 GT2 specs on the FZ5
LX8 specs and slickmod on the LX6 ...
Can't wait to have more options, Thanks a bunch Fonnybone :)
Breizh
22nd November 2005, 11:52
Why are there two columns for cylinders&displacement, and what do they do different?
And gears don't seem to change to the value I input in Mecanik.
hrtburnout
22nd November 2005, 11:53
Oh My God! I put a V12 engine into the UF1 :rofl:
This awesome :)
edit: deleted the replay as it can not be viewed by others
Breizh
22nd November 2005, 12:01
Gives me an OOS error, although it gets as far as the car on the dragstrip start.
How did you change the engine to a V config?
Matrixi
22nd November 2005, 12:13
Just for your information people, if you upload a replay of your modified car we CAN NOT SEE IT unless you post the setting file for Mecanik that you used with that car.
geeman1
22nd November 2005, 12:43
So much fun. I made FXR be how it is supposed to be (with ~1200hp) :)
And off course I had to try something totally ridicilous, a FO8 with millions of millions hp, only problem was it burned all the fuel in a second and flipped over because of all the torque :D
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 12:46
i would love to have an manual ^^
currently i only play around with power and rev limits, still fun tho :)
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 12:49
geeman...u have to give it much power, then u set 12000 - 12000 in the displacement option its like an V8 then lol OMG Uf1 with this setting...roarrrrrrrrrrr :D
Bob Smith
22nd November 2005, 13:47
OK cool will try later today...
Fonnybone
22nd November 2005, 14:13
Ahh, glad to see some people who got it to work. I just posted an updated
package, i suggest you all try it out, you can 'extract to here' i zipped a folder ;)
I added the "Preset comments" to the presets so if you made presets already,
you'll have to add a line with text at the end, else MecaniK won't load your preset.
Open newer presets in notepad to compare and see what i mean.
Now what is this about the abc file ? I never tried any patches after 0.5P,
so you could say my version is pure, but apart from the exe, which i also
included in the P04 download, i don't see how the abc file can affect the values
i read in LFS. What has changed in the abc files ?! Has this caused any problems ?!
Now guys, understand this is not the final release, i wanted to test it out
before having finished the details, and i'm glad i did, quite a few things i had overlooked.
Don't be surprised if i change some things a bit more.
I still need feedback, try the P04 download and ESPECIALLY those who had issues,
i'd appreciate you describe the issue and how you 'fixed' it, if you ever managed.
windmouse
22nd November 2005, 14:44
P04 doesn't work for me, while previous versions did.
Runtime error 713, missing one dll, msstdfmt.dll Strange is that I downloaded this, put it in my windows\system folder and nothing changed at all, still the same error...
Matrixi
22nd November 2005, 14:51
Well, P04 works as good as the previous version. I'm just wondering, will there be a "LFS Tweak" with all the previous stuff it had (turbo on/off, changeable wheel sizes, weight distribution etc.) or will those be integrated to Mecanik?
I did notice a bug, if you wipe out the engine displacement slot and type "0", the program crashes.
TaiFong
22nd November 2005, 14:51
P04 works for me, but the "Apply" button does not function and is always greyed out.
Kegetys
22nd November 2005, 14:52
Works fine here, too bad the ~720km/h car reset limit still seems to be in S2 :( :D
One thing I'd like to see would be a feature that would automatically apply preset tweak settings when I load a certain setup, ie. I could assign that when the game loads a setup named "tweak_f1" then mechanik would automatically load the F1 preset. This should be relatively easy to do by either finding the setup name from LFS's memory or hooking the createfile function from kernel32.dll to know when LFS tries to load the setup.
Breizh
22nd November 2005, 15:04
Very high engine power values in Mecanik seem to make the suspension and brake setup ranges go out of range..
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 15:07
yeah its crazy, go ahead and set the FO8 to 11000 power.
u cant drive. as soon as u put a gear in, ur car starts to jump and spin. lol.
RedRiver
22nd November 2005, 15:36
When i try to start MecaniK S2 P04.zip (http://www.lfsforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3586&d=1132671678) i get this error message.
"Runtime error 713: Class not registered. You need the following file to be installed on you machine. msstdfmt.dll"
Ive tried downloading the dll file and put it in windows/system.
Ill keep trying.
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 15:53
put it in ur folder where is mecanik. that should work ;)
windmouse
22nd November 2005, 15:59
i've tried, it doesn't work
[RCG]Boosted
22nd November 2005, 16:24
why dont u use 0.1? with the original 0.5P its working perfect.
Lautsprecher[NOR]
22nd November 2005, 16:28
'Apply'-button doesen't work :(
Hyperactive
22nd November 2005, 16:32
Just little note. Could you Fonnybone write some lines in the first post about what the prog actually does. As some people don't visit this forum that often ;)
Shotglass
22nd November 2005, 16:38
ok ... time for a few comments
1. the abc file has changed quite a bit with all those test patches as they are mostly about adding new codepages so i guess they will act up unless you use the proper versions of the abc and exe
2. we really need a no damage no fuel consumption no tyrewear mod
3. the textboxes are acting pretty weird (you mentioned changing their behaviour a bit in p4 havent had a chance to try it yet though) could you change them to normal text boxes where text input works in insert rather than in overwrite mode ?
4. the pover values and setting ranges for brakes and spring stiffness are coupled again (they already were with lfstweak for s1) is this caused by lfs itself or some bug that changes more values than it should ?
L(Oo)ney
22nd November 2005, 16:40
Apply button isnt working here. Using the P04.zip and S2P. :shrug:
geeman1
22nd November 2005, 16:49
Apply button isnt working here. Using the P04.zip and S2P. :shrug:
Yeah, P04:s apply button does not work. P02:s works for me.
L(Oo)ney
22nd November 2005, 16:55
Yeah, P04:s apply button does not work. P02:s works for me.
Quoted for agreement. :thumb:
Now, time to try and break it, i guess. :razz:
TaiFong
22nd November 2005, 17:11
Man this is such a blast. You guys were right, oval + F08 is pure excitement! My quickest lap a bit ago was about 24.15 without even really pushing it! :thumb:
mrodgers
22nd November 2005, 17:11
Has anyone tried this with Windows 98(SE)? I think I'm the only one left in the world using 98, XP just hogs too much and reduced me down to a slide projector in LFS. I remember LFSTweakS1 wouldn't save or load any tweak files, but I could change settings and apply. I'll try it out tonight when I get home.
L(Oo)ney
22nd November 2005, 17:16
Man this is such a blast. You guys were right, oval + F08 is pure excitement! My quickest lap a bit ago was about 24.15 without even really pushing it! :thumb:
You bent your suspension from getting too much G yet?
My wheels usually end up like this - ||---// :razz:
mrodgers
22nd November 2005, 17:21
Another question, does driving online with this affect the stats at LFSWorld in anyway? Like with PB times? I would guess not, but :shrug: .
P5YcHoM4N
22nd November 2005, 17:21
Wow, much fun this is. Pain in the arse to get started, but once I got the ABC file from an older version, it worked fine. RWD FXO = FO8 only less speed. Talk about snap on snap off power. You eat tyres like they are candy too :D
Breizh
22nd November 2005, 17:30
Why are there two columns for Cylinders and Displacement?
Theafro
22nd November 2005, 17:35
it's for forcing the desired figure by limiting the range that can be used.
you should probably read the readme, covers evrything in fairly simple terms:thumb:
edas555
22nd November 2005, 17:39
hi
i have problem with mecanik for lfs s2
apply button did't working in all version of mecanik
my lfs ver. s2 demo 0.5P
Breizh
22nd November 2005, 17:39
Hadn't seen the readme, thanks.
Apply button isn't supposed to work online, I think, Geeman/Looney.
edas555
22nd November 2005, 17:48
online maybe but in single yes(it is so by me)
Breizh
22nd November 2005, 17:50
You tried the .5P (no patch) version of LFS?
Extract it in a new directory and test Mecanik on that one.
edas555
22nd November 2005, 18:03
i have clear 0.5P without patch and mecanik isn't good working
TaiFong
22nd November 2005, 18:45
You bent your suspension from getting too much G yet?
My wheels usually end up like this - ||---// :razz:
Definitely did! Haha. I can't imagine how scary that would be in real life if it were possible to take a turn that fast.
(SaM)
22nd November 2005, 19:49
Definitely did! Haha. I can't imagine how scary that would be in real life if it were possible to take a turn that fast.
It would be something like, your brains coming out of your ass.
Vendetta
22nd November 2005, 21:20
Ill try this when i get home!
Ill_eagle94
22nd November 2005, 21:53
Boosted']put it in ur folder where is mecanik. that should work ;)
Here is a SS of the file in the folder and the error on teh same screen. :Kick_Can_
http://server2.ihostphotos.com/show.php?id=12386
Tittentei
22nd November 2005, 21:58
Tested right now with 0.5p2 and all the neccessary files in place. It finds game and car, but the "apply" button doesn't work. Sort of grayed out.
When I try to load one of your presets I get a box saying "Error: Main.SendCartypeData". Maybe that helps a bit.
Clean install of lfs:
When I use the exe you provided with the P04 release, the car isn't found.
Forgot to mention that when I use this .exe (LFS_05P), I get a message on the topleft of my screen in LFS saying "Warning: Created default codepage". Don't know why, or what it means.
When I use the .exe that came with the clean install, apply button is grayed out again.
To the guy above: just saw your screenshot.. I see you have the file missing in your lfs directory.. Try to move/copy it to */windows/system32
The program should check the place where its loaded as well, but might something different with that one
OK.. While editing this whole post, I tried for fun one more time.. Just fiddling around a bit.
Tried to load one of the presets on your 04 package, and got same error as described on top.
So I just clicked into "idle" for half a second, and suddenly the apply button came to life.
I dont know why, it just did. I have tested different values in all the previous versions, so I'm totally surprised and blown away.
Time to test it, and thanks for making this tool that seems soo good
Another edit. Apply button does work, but when I press it (didnt do that before completing the last edit) I get the "Error: Main.SendCartypeData". So back to where I left off hehe. Will try to fiddle around a bit, swapping files and such..
Edit #3 or 4: So.. Got it to work. Don't know why. Might have been a shitty settings.cfg that was defaulting the language to norwegian. So fixed that to english properly. It might have been that, it might not.. Anyway thanks once again :)
shoman24v
22nd November 2005, 22:40
Can someone post instructions to actually get this thing working, i've redownloaded LFS and I still can't get it to work.
Bob Smith
22nd November 2005, 22:58
How about a drop-down list box for drivetrain type that says "FWD", "RWD", "AWD", "Default", and just use a select case statement to input the actual number? Would be a lot more user friendly. :)
Edit: the comments box doesn't appear to work either (with v2 - v4 doesn't let me apply changes and I quickly got bored of editing the preset file and reloading it...)
Breizh
22nd November 2005, 23:06
Boxes aren't selected in order when pressing tab.
Can you say when you'll let us change the tire specs ?
Dying to put FZR rears on some of my creations :)
Bob Smith
23rd November 2005, 00:12
Tyre specs are part of the individual car settings, which I assume we'll be able to change all at once, once LFSTweak is ready of course.
Atm I'm having fun playing about with the engines, but other than that it's quite limited really. I mean it's impossible to re-create another car unless it's the same as one of the cars we have with a different engine. :( Oh well, the LX8 and a F1 car will just have to do! :p
Shotglass
23rd November 2005, 00:20
actually you cant create an lx8 since you can change neither tyre type (you could use the slickmod though) nor tyre dimensions and if im not mistaken the lx8s tyres are quite a bit wider than the ones on the lx6
Bob Smith
23rd November 2005, 00:54
Meh, spoil my fun, it's near enough! :p
Theafro
23rd November 2005, 02:09
yeah, i agree with bob, although it's great fun knocking about in 1275GT mini's and Lairy V10 F1 cars it's difficult to go far beyond what the standard car is capable of without serious problems.
BTW tried a 4,500,000BHP MRT5 earlier, the most powerfull shoebox in history:pillepall
XCNuse
23rd November 2005, 02:15
Another question, does driving online with this affect the stats at LFSWorld in anyway? Like with PB times? I would guess not, but :shrug: .
why would it not? your running times online.. it doesnt check if there is anything running
as for the apply button not working.. same here :( and this is with a fresh install of S2 alpha from the install page (seeing my other one wouldnt go back to S2p from S2p10 or whatever
mrodgers
23rd November 2005, 02:42
why would it not? your running times online.. it doesnt check if there is anything running
Because the car wouldn't match anymore just like if you would change settings and try to join a normal server. It' won't let you join the server because the car wouldn't match.
Fonnybone
23rd November 2005, 04:34
Wow, 3000+ downloads in 1 day !! :bigeyes2: Imagine if i asked 1$ each time :scratchch
Seriously though, i carefully went through all your posts and i'd like to apologize to those having issues.
I will add a disclaimer explaining the possible problems and limits,etc...
Ok, so here is my present list of ReportedBugs to fix:
- APPLY not working on P04 (Doh! doh! doh!!!!!!!!!!!)
I guess i overlooked a detail again and posted too fast.
- Missing msstdfmt.dll file
I'll have to look what i added that asks for this, i'll provide a copy if needed.
- Preset loading issues
I added comments about this both in the main post AND in the ReadME.
P04 presets PROVIDED WITH THE P04 download are different because
of the added 'Preset Comments:"
- Power affects setups
I'll check this one out, chances are it's a side-effect of editing the
cartypes, thanks for this report btw, this is news to me.
- CARnotFound
For those who still have this issue, i don'T know what to say. All
seems fine to me so far. The only thing left to check is that abc
codepage thing, since, as i mentionned, i use the car's NAMES to
ID them, so if you have different caracters showing there, it WON'T
find any car. I'm hoping this is the problem.
As for the textbox issue, i KNOW, it annoys me too, but honestly,
i got used to it so it's not frustrating me much. This is a limitation
of my programming knowledge, i'll have to look at a few ways to
deal with values. For one, i could use sliders/drop-down menus
for many values, as for the rest, i could always use a buffer textbox.
Please be patient with this, it's not a 'bug' for me at this point, but
an improvement suggestion.
Ok, it's a bit late today but i'll start looking at those issues and i
should update within a day or two.
Thanks for the support btw guys, i still can't believe P02 got 3000+ downloads ! :bigeyes2:
Fonnybone
23rd November 2005, 04:37
Another question, does driving online with this affect the stats at LFSWorld in anyway? Like with PB times? I would guess not, but :shrug: .
Yes, yes it DOES. This is very important to know imo. I'll add this to
to the disclaimer so people know BEFORE they try it. I really SHOULD
have taught of informing people about this.
It won't affect HotLap charts, but it WILL change your personal online
stats if you use it online.
bw_krupp
23rd November 2005, 05:35
I get :
Run-time error '13':
Type mismatch
if I try to change the drivetrain.
Fonnybone
23rd November 2005, 05:51
I get :
Run-time error '13':
Type mismatch
if I try to change the drivetrain.
Mmmm, didn't get this myself. How do you 'change'
the drivetrain exactly ? Can you describe step by step
what keys/buttons causes the error ? If i can make it
bug myself, then i can fix it, or at least, it's much easier.
Oh, and what version of MecaniK are you using, P02 ?
FPVaaron
23rd November 2005, 08:57
- Missing msstdfmt.dll file
I'll have to look what i added that asks for this, i'll provide a copy if needed.
:bigeyes2:
Please do :)
Bob Smith
23rd November 2005, 09:14
Wow, 3000+ downloads in 1 day !! :bigeyes2: Imagine if i asked 1$ each time :scratchch
Yeah, you'd have 3000 complaints asking why you are charging for this software. :p
But yeah, impressive figures to say the least! Just shows how many people are waiting for LFS Tweak. :)
Shotglass
23rd November 2005, 11:27
- Power affects setups
I'll check this one out, chances are it's a side-effect of editing the
cartypes, thanks for this report btw, this is news to me.
weird its been there at least since tweak for .3h
it creates 2 problems
1) if you try to build a light car with loads of hp youll end up with very high spring frequencies and there is no way to lower them (not a serious issue but annoying)
2) (somewhat serious) if the new lowest value you can set for spring stiffness is higher than the one the setup used in the first place youll involuntarily change the setup and as lfs automatically saves the setup youll mess up every single setup you select
- CARnotFound
For those who still have this issue, i don'T know what to say. All
seems fine to me so far. The only thing left to check is that abc
codepage thing, since, as i mentionned, i use the car's NAMES to
ID them, so if you have different caracters showing there, it WON'T
find any car. I'm hoping this is the problem.
i wouldnt get my hopes up too high since afaik every codepages has a full set of standard latin characters and arabic numbers at the the same locations
As for the textbox issue, i KNOW, it annoys me too, but honestly,
i got used to it so it's not frustrating me much. This is a limitation
of my programming knowledge, i'll have to look at a few ways to
deal with values. For one, i could use sliders/drop-down menus
for many values, as for the rest, i could always use a buffer textbox.
Please be patient with this, it's not a 'bug' for me at this point, but
an improvement suggestion.
just changing it back to the way tweak .3h processed keyboard input would be enough
Fonnybone
23rd November 2005, 12:07
(...) just changing it back to the way tweak .3h
processed keyboard input would be enough
Yes, i know :nod: . This is exactly what i was thinking last night.
I just need to go through tons of old folders with tons of old projects and
find one that redruM made, he had this code and i remember removing
it because it was keeping me from doing something, i didn't realise at the
time what it was for... :scratchch
I'd like some feedback on the P05 exe. Is it working well ?
I need to know before i start building on it.
Fonnybone
23rd November 2005, 12:13
But yeah, impressive figures to say the least! Just shows how many people are waiting for LFS Tweak. :)
Ya but don't you wonder how there can be 4000 downloads if this whole thread has only 2,367 'views' ?!
The same person can 'view' a thread more than once so that's not even the number of people that read
this thread. I'm pretty sure some other forums/sites have a direct link or something :scratchch I'm
just surprised how fast all this happened, i went to bed, woke up and it was at 3600+
So, even if everyone downloaded the file twice, it's still about 2000.
mrodgers
23rd November 2005, 12:43
Ya but don't you wonder how there can be 4000 downloads if this whole thread has only 2,367 'views' ?!
The same person can 'view' a thread more than once so that's not even the number of people that read
this thread. I'm pretty sure some other forums/sites have a direct link or something :scratchch I'm
just surprise how fast all this happened, i went to bad, woke up and it was at 3600+
So, even if everyone downloaded the file twice, it's still about 2000.
"Email to 10 of my friends:
Holy crap, check this out!! Fonnybone just released Mecanik for S2!! Here a link to the download.........."
That's how :thumb: ! But on the other side, you have 4000 downloads, but how many folks got theirs from a friend who said in an email, here, I'll just send it to you in an attachment.
Hyperactive
23rd November 2005, 13:00
Here's a link to the S1 LFStwak thread at RSC, there is a LFStweak tutorial (I think some of the stuff is same with mecanik:))
link (http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=179984)
Scroll to post 8 and dl.
Fonnybone
23rd November 2005, 13:17
Still, when it comes down to number of hits, it still got a bit over 3800
so far, at 1$ the download, it's still 3800$ :tilt: Once i get closer to
a stable version, i'll post a full update and make it the only download.
If i add a little candy in it, i should be able to get a number of
downloads closer to the actual number of users. I'm curious.
Short of forcing registration,there's no way to know the absolute number.
hrtburnout
23rd November 2005, 13:48
One request, can you let us change the car type ?
tristancliffe
23rd November 2005, 13:48
Just charge $1 via paypal for LFS Tweak then. It's gonna be more popular probably too!
Bob Smith
23rd November 2005, 13:58
I'd like some feedback on the P05 exe. Is it working well ?
I need to know before i start building on it.
Solved my problems (not that I had many). :) :thumb:
Fonnybone
23rd November 2005, 14:05
One request, can you let us change the car type ?
You're kiding, right ? :Looking_a
:scratchch guess not...
Ok, no. I can't let you change the car types because that's in the
'cardata', what LFSTweak edits. MecaniK EDITS the car types, they
are car classes if you will. They limit/offset the cardata values of a
group of car, to fit within certain specifications (constraints, parameters).
A cartype cannot change cartype :shrug:
edas555
23rd November 2005, 14:05
Fonny are you know why apply button is still unavailable. Are you know why?
Fonnybone
23rd November 2005, 14:07
Solved my problems (not that I had many). :) :thumb:
The comments for the presets too ? Try a few load/save.
Fonny are you know why apply button is still unavailable. Are you know why?
What are you talking about ! :pillepall
Did you try editing values ? The problem started with the formatting 'fix' i tried,
first i forgot to unquote ONE line, APPLY.enabled=True. We all know how that
went. So P05 has that part fixed, but you have to change a value, then click
another one sometimes for the change to really happen, THEN the apply button
becomes active. Oh, and please tell me you are using the P05 exe ? I want a
screenshot ! :D
[RCG]Boosted
23rd November 2005, 14:11
P04 and P05 arent working for me.
P01 does, so i guess ill stick with that :shrug:
btw, i cant save presets in P01
hrtburnout
23rd November 2005, 14:32
You're kiding, right ? :Looking_a
:scratchch guess not...
Ok, no. I can't let you change the car types because that's in the
'cardata', what LFSTweak edits. MecaniK EDITS the car types, they
are car classes if you will. They limit/offset the cardata values of a
group of car, to fit within certain specifications (constraints, parameters).
A cartype cannot change cartype :shrug:
Ah, that makes a lot clear. I just have to wait for LFSTweak :)
Fonnybone
23rd November 2005, 14:37
Boosted']P04 and P05 arent working for me.
P01 does, so i guess ill stick with that :shrug:
btw, i cant save presets in P01
Ok, i need more info dude. WHAT doesn't work ?
There's a couple of issues going around:
-Presets problems ?
-No car found ?
-APPLY not working/disabled/grayed out ?
-Missing file errors ?
-Can't scroll or search ?
Zonda
23rd November 2005, 14:48
WT?
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/6484/ms3xr.th.jpg (http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ms3xr.jpg)
orre
23rd November 2005, 14:55
Only P02 works for me but nothing happens in lfs when i use in :(
Fonnybone
23rd November 2005, 14:58
Thanks god, the perfect bug reporter !! See people, do like Zonda ! :thumbsup:
He only posted a pic, not even a word, and i understood more than
most bug reports up to now. An image is worth a thousand words :scratchch
That error is relatively easy to fix, i just didn't do it yet, but i'll do
it for the next update just because you posted a screenshot and i
can tell what the error is! :D
For all those who have Zonda's problem, maybe this can help for now:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=43381#post43381
Only P02 works for me but nothing happens in lfs when i use in
Now for the rest...
It's not easy to tell what's wrong exactly. Ok, so i'm assuming that MecaniK loads up, it finds
LFS and CAR then values DO show up in MecaniK. That u use it should mean that
APPLY works also (P02 didnt have that bug i think). Hopefully, this is all good and working
(i wonder what kind of media could provide such info..).
Now when you say nothing happens, did you pit out then pit in for the change to apply ?
Changing values, pressing apply, pitting out, then pitting in again does NOT update anything ?
What are you editing ?
orre
23rd November 2005, 15:05
Now it works,but ican't load others settings
Bob Smith
23rd November 2005, 16:19
The comments for the presets too ? Try a few load/save.
Yep. But editing "time2rev" seems to make no difference :shrug: , although the new idle rpm bit is nice. :) Oh and where did aero go?
Otherwise works as expected for me (silly text boxes aside).
ATHome
23rd November 2005, 16:55
By the way: Some of you might have the missing dll already in their windows\system32 folder, its just not registered...
To do so:
Start
Run
and then type in (or copy from my reply):scratchch
regsvr32 %systemroot%\System32\MSSTDFMT.dll
sinbad
23rd November 2005, 16:57
All been working fine for me. If I load a preset I have to change something for it to apply, or at least remove a number and then put it back again, but that's it.
Oh, one thing, if I close LFS, I have to restart Mekanik to get that working again. It won't "see" the cars unless I restart mekanik too.
Shotglass
23rd November 2005, 17:19
Yep. But editing "time2rev" seems to make no difference :shrug:
hmmm so thats why my quick and dirty 1ccm 1 cyl 4000hp mod didnt work
Fonnybone
23rd November 2005, 17:21
By the way: Some of you might have the missing dll already in their windows\system32 folder, its just not registered...
To do so:
Start
Run
and then type in (or copy from my reply):scratchch
regsvr32 %systemroot%\System32\MSSTDFMT.dll
Ya, thanks for that. I was thinking about this while looking at
the screenshot of the image. The problem is not that the file isn't
there, but that it isn't registered ! I tried removing all reference to
it, but seems i AM using it after all.
This procedure to register it is good information. ;)
Vendetta
23rd November 2005, 17:31
LMAO i LOVE the error message you put when i type in a character Fonnybone! Hilarious!
The program works without a hitch over here.
sturje
23rd November 2005, 18:14
Just doesn't seem to work for me :( Load up 0.5P, it detects LFS is loaded but when i goto cars, i change a couple of the cars to see if it works and nothing :-/ I'm thinking it maybe something to do with all the crap i've got in my LFS folder so i'm going to download LFS again and do a scratch install and see if that helps. I'll get back to you with the details might be a fix for other people having issues xD
sturje
23rd November 2005, 18:29
A full from scratch reinstall did the trick, working perfectly now. :thumb:
Lible
23rd November 2005, 18:37
Working fine here! :nod:
overkiller
23rd November 2005, 19:06
I LOVE YOU MAN! :D HAHA
We can now create full power drift cars!
I wish i had some money to give you right now :(
[RCG]Boosted
23rd November 2005, 20:13
yeah i get the error with the missing dll file with 0.4 and 0.5
i tried to register it, but it tries to register it from my second win installation.(yeah i have 2 time xp installed dont ask why lol)
just tell me how to get the presets saved, cause it wont work...
ATHome
23rd November 2005, 20:33
You can try to point to the dll in the right WinXP Folder...
for example if you have one WINDOWS and one WINXP folder for you installations you could also register the dll like this
regsvr32 C:\WINDOWS\System32\MSSTDFMT.dll
Hope this helps
[RCG]Boosted
23rd November 2005, 20:55
04 is running now, later i have to try if all works fine.
FPVaaron
24th November 2005, 03:28
It was working fine with po1, then I downloaded po5 put in all the required files after fixing the error I was getting it worked but car not found I tried many times to get it working but nothing, So I put back the old lfs exe and started up po1 and "car not found" now I can't use mecanik at all.
RedRiver
24th November 2005, 03:33
By the way: Some of you might have the missing dll already in their windows\system32 folder, its just not registered...
To do so:
Start
Run
and then type in (or copy from my reply):scratchch
regsvr32 %systemroot%\System32\MSSTDFMT.dll
I owe you man! Thank you! Fixed out all versions for me... (i think)
And thank you Fonny. Great work.
[RCG]Boosted
24th November 2005, 04:47
0.4 - apply button does not work.
0.5 - no car found.
0.1,0.2 - works fine just cant save presets.
Hyperactive
24th November 2005, 09:06
Had a clean install for LFS, P02 and P05 working, P04 not (apply button). LFS in demo (don't want to use unlock as the things are improving all the time, maybe a P12 when it's officially released:)) LFS version is that 0.5P.
Also if you set redline too high, LFS will crash. Are there some limits for these? Also putting a letter (my mistake :D) crashes mecanik.
I'll doubledouble check these...
EDIT. nothing...
AndroidXP
24th November 2005, 10:04
P05 working here, but only with the original LFS version 0.5P. Any other LFS version (also the one supplied in the package) isn't working (car not found).
Chaos
24th November 2005, 10:06
(don't want to use unlock as the things are improving all the time, maybe a P12 when it's officially released:))
OT: updating does not lock your copy of LFS... I have unlocked S2 the day it came out and never again...
Hyperactive
24th November 2005, 10:26
OT: updating does not lock your copy of LFS... I have unlocked S2 the day it came out and never again...
I just want to have two separate LFS directories. One for mods and stuff like mecanik and slickmod. The other one is just pure racing simulatah! So if I want to use all S2 cars in both I have to unlock both :) :(
And too high redline will crash LFS, tested ;)
Matrixi
24th November 2005, 13:59
I can't see why you wouldn't unlock both of them? I have two LFS directories, fresh install with Mecanik, and the one I use online (P10 patch). Both S2 activated. Can't see what's the big issue about it.
Letin-Klanen
24th November 2005, 15:38
Hi i tried this app on my pc and i get this error, but i tried it on a friends pc and it was perfect, i loved it. Can annybody help me out of this problem. I have tried the run commands and did not help me.
Run-time error '339': Component 'comdlg32.ocx' or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid
Lautsprecher[NOR]
24th November 2005, 15:47
Hi i tried this app on my pc and i get this error, but i tried it on a friends pc and it was perfect, i loved it. Can annybody healp me out of this problem. I have tried the run commands and did not healp me.
Run-time error '339': Component 'comdlg32.ocx' or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalidBare å laste ned comdlg32.ocx og slenge den i \windows\system32
Letin-Klanen
24th November 2005, 16:20
Thanks for the help Lautsprecher, now i can tweak the cars and have more fun. Tusen takk :)
Specht
24th November 2005, 18:19
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1333/83qi.jpg
PS: it was my bro =P
hrtburnout
24th November 2005, 18:35
Lol!
Hyperactive
24th November 2005, 19:24
I can't see why you wouldn't unlock both of them? I have two LFS directories, fresh install with Mecanik, and the one I use online (P10 patch). Both S2 activated. Can't see what's the big issue about it.
Well, I got bored tuning the demo cars so I unlocked it too. But if I recall right I need to unlock LFS every time it gets an update, not sure, my memory is not the best one. So if we get that P12 or something officially, I need to unlock my racing S2 and if mecanik gets a P12 compatible version, I need to update and unlock my tweaking S2 too. And I now have only 1 unlock left. What worries me is that my PBs will be ruined if I use this online :(
RedRiver
24th November 2005, 19:37
But if I recall right I need to unlock LFS every time it gets an update, not sure, my memory is not the best one.
Bad memory! :pillepall
You dont have to unlock it every new patch. Soo.... No worries! :thumb:
shoman24v
25th November 2005, 00:05
Pretty cool, got it working.
Anyone try to take the formula V8 around a turn at 300 MPH? The suspension gives and the wheels bend in.
Shotglass
25th November 2005, 00:43
I just want to have two separate LFS directories. One for mods and stuff like mecanik and slickmod. The other one is just pure racing simulatah! So if I want to use all S2 cars in both I have to unlock both :) :(
just unlock one of them and copy the whole lfs folder ... itll stay unlocked
Fonnybone
25th November 2005, 00:46
Hey guys :nod:
A little update..
I'm taking a few days to let things settle and let the REAL bugs come
through. I've started changing major things these past few days and
again, kinda went to big...i'll have to redo a few things completely,
simplifying the more i can. I'm redoing the LFS/CAR checks again,
also, i'm trying to limit the ressources it uses. I'm not the best programmer
out there, far from it, so my apps are far from optimized ;)
To be honest, i'm wishing for an official patch now because all these
test patches are confusing the heck out of me. Funny how this used
to be the opposite, mods can make it hard for the devs to know if
it was trully and LFS bug, or some mod messing things up. Now it's
my turn to experience it :razz:
Gimme a few days and i'll post an update then.
Matrixi
25th November 2005, 08:20
Well, I got bored tuning the demo cars so I unlocked it too. But if I recall right I need to unlock LFS every time it gets an update, not sure, my memory is not the best one. So if we get that P12 or something officially, I need to unlock my racing S2 and if mecanik gets a P12 compatible version, I need to update and unlock my tweaking S2 too. And I now have only 1 unlock left. What worries me is that my PBs will be ruined if I use this online :(
Nope, you don't have to unlock every time you update LFS. And that wouldn't really matter either since you get new unlock keys every month I think?
piotrek_pio
25th November 2005, 12:18
After change of drive type (fwd => rwd ), it does not sustain diff.
sorry my bad english
[RCG]Boosted
25th November 2005, 12:36
actual bug list ( that i found )
1.like piotrek said after changing transmission type, u cant change ur differential.(u can , but it has no effect )
2.the gear option is nice, but u cant get more gears as the car actually have. example u set for the XFG in the gear option 8 = 6 gears. but it still haves 5.
3.dunno how it is for the other versions, cause they wont work for me , but at least in P0.1 and 02 i cant save presets.
4.this is maybe not a bug, but lets see :) u can make ur car weight alot higher but even when u set weight to all 0 u only lose bout 60 KG (german unit :P ) thats about 1/10 of the car.
thats all what i found so far.
let u know when i see more.
kel64
25th November 2005, 13:33
Can't seem to get a car recognised myself, keep the status never changes from 'car not found'. Anybody else geting this with the latest version?
GTR_Yuni
25th November 2005, 15:00
By the way: Some of you might have the missing dll already in their windows\system32 folder, its just not registered...
To do so:
Start
Run
and then type in (or copy from my reply):scratchch
regsvr32 %systemroot%\System32\MSSTDFMT.dll
It's not working for me and I don't have the file...could anyone point out where I could find the .dll....?
ATHome
25th November 2005, 15:07
http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msstdfmt
GTR_Yuni
25th November 2005, 15:14
That's odd. I now have the files but still cannot run MecaniK S2. I placed the program into my LFS folder but I can't get it to run.
Raynold
25th November 2005, 15:38
To Fonnybone:
This is just a little wish from someone out there, but if you're planning to make a full LFStweak later on when the world is ready for it, could you please add a possibility to modify the values allowed for tire pressures? This is the one important feature I've been longing for since those first releases of LFStweakS1 ;_; (about 15 bars of max pressure would be enough.)
A mod for changing the range of suspension components and other similar would be nice too. :)
ATHome
25th November 2005, 15:53
That's odd. I now have the files but still cannot run MecaniK S2. I placed the program into my LFS folder but I can't get it to run.
What's the error message you're getting ?
Hyperactive
25th November 2005, 15:57
Noticed one strange thing. When I load a preset it complains about it:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1828/error6cu.jpg
The preset is loaded though, so what's up with the message?
Theafro
25th November 2005, 16:00
the weight option is simply an 'offset' that effects only the weight of the engine. try a negative value, although don't go too far with it, the car can go a bit mental:D
Shotglass
25th November 2005, 16:54
Noticed one strange thing. When I load a preset it complains about it:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1828/error6cu.jpg
The preset is loaded though, so what's up with the message?
i assume its related to this bug:
if you load a preset from somebody whos machine (as set in control panel/regional and language settings) uses a different decimal point than your own youll effectively load very high values as tweak completely ignores the decimal points
Hyperactive
25th November 2005, 17:05
i assume its related to this bug:
if you load a preset from somebody whos machine (as set in control panel/regional and language settings) uses a different decimal point than your own youll effectively load very high values as tweak completely ignores the decimal points
I was trying to load my own preset ;)
RedRiver
25th November 2005, 20:49
A cool thing i noticed is that when you tweak your car extremely. Like 5000 HP.. When you full throttle, you can see the fuel gauge drop very quickly. So the fuelconsumtion is based on enginepower. And not the cartype.
Im glad that this is just a sim and not real life.. Otherwise i would be a poor poor man. Burning litres in seconds..
Bob Smith
25th November 2005, 21:55
Yep, we knew this over a year ago when we first quizzed Scawen on how he was going to do it. :)
I think the drag car I made needs 9% of fuel in the tank just so that it doesn't run out of fuel before it hits the quarter mile mark.
Shotglass
25th November 2005, 23:46
like i said we (i) really need a no consumption no damage no tyre wear/heat mod to go along with lfs tweak
so far i was able get my bl1 times down to ~0:50 ... but the suspension is pretty much done for after a single lap
Breizh
26th November 2005, 13:40
I think it's more fun to keep the damage.
No victory without peril.
Bob Smith
26th November 2005, 13:50
Actually I love seeing how quickly a drag car will eat tyres and drink fuel.
I do agree, I would like a way to increase the durability of the suspension (rather than removing suspension damage completely).
Theafro
26th November 2005, 15:40
If you made a real life 450MPH tweak-beast and started throwing it about hard, i've got a funny feeling you'd be beefing things up to take the strains of pulling 5g's+:D
ATM it's mainly the fact that the cars are virtually standard except for engine and transmission tweaks, that lets the program down a little, so i'm trying to stick with more realistic tweaks for now. 2Ltr XFR's and a 1380cc (roadish spec+tyres) UFR to simulate the average Fast mini etc.
It's amazing to me how little you have to do to a car to change it into something compeatly different
geeman1
26th November 2005, 20:53
It's based on LFS 0.5P, so it WON'T work correctly on any test patches.Are you planning to make MecaniK compatible with 0.5Q?
nikka
26th November 2005, 23:21
lol, managed to tweak the FO8 into a little monorail..
http://chrisnes.tihlde.org/ridingwall.avi (1,2 mb)
ATHome
26th November 2005, 23:51
lol, managed to tweak the FO8 into a little monorail..
http://chrisnes.tihlde.org/ridingwall.avi (1,2 mb)
Funny as hell :nod:
Shotglass
27th November 2005, 00:06
Actually I love seeing how quickly a drag car will eat tyres and drink fuel.
i agree that its fun as long as you want to play around with somewhat realistic cars or if you want an added challenge during online play ... but if you just want to go mental and create something that will go from 0 to 720 in under a second its just annoying
Hyperactive
27th November 2005, 00:43
Hmm. Can we expect some new values in mecanik or is it just fine tuning from here on?
EDIT: removed lots of...
_-ALUCARD-_
27th November 2005, 02:32
yo Fonnybone, mecanik works good here :)
good job man :thumb:
did you will made a version of mecanik for patch Q ???
antseh
27th November 2005, 05:48
Yes please make a version for Q
detail
27th November 2005, 05:53
lol, managed to tweak the FO8 into a little monorail..
http://chrisnes.tihlde.org/ridingwall.avi (1,2 mb)
:uglyhamme
HENKE63
27th November 2005, 07:21
I have LFS S2 ALPHA P and i patched it with LFS_S2_ALPHA_PATCH_P5.. I also downloaded MecanikS2_P05 and extracted it to my desktop but when i run LFS then go to open Mecanik it says "Run-time error 713" Cant find file MSSTDFMT.DLL. Can anyone help me?
RedRiver
27th November 2005, 07:40
I have LFS S2 ALPHA P and i patched it with LFS_S2_ALPHA_PATCH_P5.. I also downloaded MecanikS2_P05 and extracted it to my desktop but when i run LFS then go to open Mecanik it says "Run-time error 713" Cant find file MSSTDFMT.DLL. Can anyone help me?
Get the file at http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msstdfmt
Then START -> RUN -> And paste this ->
regsvr32 %systemroot%\System32\MSSTDFMT.dll
HENKE63
27th November 2005, 08:53
Thanks! I got it to work.. Pretty sweet :thumb:
McAzerty
27th November 2005, 12:45
How can I let the XF GTI go 400 km/h ?
nikka
27th November 2005, 13:24
How can I let the XF GTI go 400 km/h ?
Guess there are 1000 ways to do that... but nothing beats the sound of a 8 liter single cylinder.. :smileypul
http://chrisnes.tihlde.org/xfg400.avi
MecaniK S2, LFS S2 0.5P
2
Saloon
0,010
3
8
1
1
8000
8000
5,000
0,010
1,000
5,000
104,71
Dj-Aeri
27th November 2005, 13:24
"No car found, select a car!" message appears.
I'm using MecanikS2_P05.exe with LFS_05P.exe
¿What's the problem?
[RCG]Boosted
27th November 2005, 14:29
"No car found, select a car!" message appears.
I'm using MecanikS2_P05.exe with LFS_05P.exe
¿What's the problem?
use mecanik P0.1 or 0.2 , these work well.
Dj-Aeri
27th November 2005, 15:57
Many Thanks! :)
that1boredguy90
27th November 2005, 18:12
Any help on the MSSTDFMT.DLL error? the one where is says it needs to be installed on your system, I have it in Windows folder System and System32, along with the LFS and Mekanic folders aswell. Any help is greatly appriciated. !--*EDIT*p02 Works but p04 and p05 don't*EDIT*--!
[RCG]Boosted
27th November 2005, 19:10
same for me, but im fine, i got what want :p as long as P0.2 works im happy :nod:
BrandoonWa
27th November 2005, 19:48
Does anyone have a link to the older versions of the Slickmod? It would help to have those R1 slicks =)
Great Mod, I've always enjoyed this and LFSTweak. Works great once you get the old abc in there.
RedRiver
27th November 2005, 21:06
Any help on the MSSTDFMT.DLL error? the one where is says it needs to be installed on your system, I have it in Windows folder System and System32, along with the LFS and Mekanic folders aswell. Any help is greatly appriciated. !--*EDIT*p02 Works but p04 and p05 don't*EDIT*--!
Have you read the posts?
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=3209&page=6
sinbad
27th November 2005, 21:13
Does anyone have a link to the older versions of the Slickmod? It would help to have those R1 slicks =)
Great Mod, I've always enjoyed this and LFSTweak. Works great once you get the old abc in there.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/kegetys/lfs/ Older versions are there too.
BrandoonWa
27th November 2005, 23:30
Wow, I amaze myself sometimes. thanks =)
Fonnybone
28th November 2005, 01:17
Ok, i didn'T read everything but in short:
- Yes, i intend to update MecaniK to work with current official patches, i
won't update for test patches though. I didn't notice yet, but i'm assuming
there's a 0.5Q out ;) It'll give me a chance to fix stuff too.
I'm sorry if i didn't update or give any news, but i got a reality shock
this weekend after taking my body for a industrial chemical absorbtion
factory... i ended up in the emergency :shy: I'm ok, electrocardiograms,
lung x-rays and blood samples say so...but i still feel sore in the chest.
Let's say i got the scare of my life! I thought about you Crumbut :schwitz:
Note to everyone, don't go without sleep, eating and then combine
'speed' pills with 'energy' drinks....ya i know, it was stupid. Sure kept
me awake though :pillepall
On a happier note, 18000+ downloads of MecaniK P02 !!! That 1$ per
download is getting more and more interesting ;)
As for the preset errors, make sure you add/remove the comment line else
that error will pop up. Also, it might also pop-up for that decimal bug.
At least an error DID pop-up ;) I'm getting there, slowly but surely.
antseh
28th November 2005, 05:25
Wow glad to hear everything is ok! Would have been scary.
On a happier note, yay for 0.5Q (yes there is a Q version).
McAzerty
28th November 2005, 15:22
And why doesn't it work online?
J.P (GB)
28th November 2005, 16:41
I havent had time to read it all but judging by the title its got all the bugs out no?
Bob Smith
28th November 2005, 21:02
And why doesn't it work online?
It does, re-read the first post.
ajp71
28th November 2005, 21:18
No luck at changing the car, could someone please post all the relevant exe so we can try them without downloading LFS again?
Shotglass
28th November 2005, 22:02
It does, re-read the first post.
just ignore him ... hes not worth any support
antseh
29th November 2005, 04:54
ajp71 look at Montana's post on Page 2. It has the link to the exe you need.
I really hope MecaniK is released for 0.5Q by the end of tomorrow beause that's when my school holidays start ;)
McAzerty
29th November 2005, 16:29
as long as all clients have the exact same mods as the server.
how you see they have same mod?
sinbad
29th November 2005, 17:19
how you see they have same mod?
You can't, until you've attempted to connect.
Would be good if, when someone runs a server using a mekanik preset, they post the preset here and announce how long the server will be up.
Fonnybone
1st December 2005, 04:10
You can't, until you've attempted to connect.
Would be good if, when someone runs a server using a mekanik preset, they post the preset here and announce how long the server will be up.
Ya, that WOULD be good. I've made good progress with OutSim thanks
to the help of RayOk and BobSmith, i actually can connect now !!! This
brings me one step closer to being able to make LFSTweak/MecaniK/WhateverMOD
make the server mod the clients before they get checked making it possible
to join any modded server as long as the MOD is running. I tried
before using the caht and it kinda worked, but you had to be able to
enter the server first...
I don't think i'll have a MecaniK for tomorrow, but it shouldn't be long.
I just hope that the recent patch will help fix all these problems caused
more by user misinformation than any actual problem with my app. The
test patches affected soemthing vital to MecaniK and was the source and
many problems. Now that we'll all have the same version, it should be
more stable, i hope. I also need to add some little code here and there :smileypul
antseh
2nd December 2005, 00:52
Great, can't wait for the new version ;)
shoman24v
2nd December 2005, 01:41
Is the new version going to read engine power, rev limit.. etc. correctly?
Forbin
2nd December 2005, 01:53
Is the new version going to read engine power, rev limit.. etc. correctly?
If I understand you correctly, you want to input power and rev limit values directly. As has been explained in the past, this is not possible. What you are changing with this program are constants of rather complicated formulas, and without knowing those formulas, it is impossible to implement a conversion that would enable the user to input values directly.
shoman24v
2nd December 2005, 02:29
If I understand you correctly, you want to input power and rev limit values directly. As has been explained in the past, this is not possible. What you are changing with this program are constants of rather complicated formulas, and without knowing those formulas, it is impossible to implement a conversion that would enable the user to input values directly.
Yeah, that's what I was wondering, sorry I botched it up so badly :shy:
Well that's fine. The application makes a world of difference when playing your favorite car :)
seggons
2nd December 2005, 06:34
I am getting the same error as Hyperactive
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1828/error6cu.jpg
And when I switch cars in-game, the format of files does not change when I go to load up a tweak for a new car. Then I have to use the wrong tweak for the wrong car.
I have also found that everything works ok with the fxo gtr and I have changed all the , into . in the files.
Any help please
Lastest MecaniK with 0.5P :)
Phill
2nd December 2005, 13:34
MUST DO WHEELIE!!! :nod::nod::nod:
but cant.. :shy:
Breizh
2nd December 2005, 14:39
Lower the weight, you can lower it into the negative range.
Make the tires stick one way or another. You can use gear ratios, tire pressure, suspension settings...
Just don't make it FWD ..:razz:
Phill
2nd December 2005, 14:56
meh... i've never been the big suspension mechanic.. so just a basic wheelie set would be greatly appriciated.. :)
PLAYLIFE
2nd December 2005, 15:28
Uhhh, why is no one going nuts over this!? Amazing! Thank you. :)
What is it???????????
Phill
2nd December 2005, 15:36
Its a small app that runs along your LFS S2 Instance..
It modifies different variables that affect how the cars behave in LFS. ie. we can create a 8 cylinder 8,3L UF1000.. Now thats fun!! :nod:
PLAYLIFE
2nd December 2005, 18:21
Icey
Fonnybone
2nd December 2005, 20:42
(...) I also need to add some little code here and there :smileypul
For those interested, by that i meant that i'll be adding code to prevent
recording of hotlaps and some other details. Recent events have made
some people unconfortable with this app and i'll be adding some code to
prevent anyone from having any arguments to dirty MecaniK's reputation
and MINE along the way. Believe me, i'll stop this dead in it's tracks !
To those intend on using MecaniK to upload hotlaps, be warned that you
risk being punished if you actually go through with it. The lap will be invalid,
but it will stay in the charts until it is checked. When it is though, you'll
be given a big fat boot to the bums. I wouldn't risk it if i were you ;)
JessesAE86
2nd December 2005, 20:48
By the way: Some of you might have the missing dll already in their windows\system32 folder, its just not registered...
To do so:
Start
Run
and then type in (or copy from my reply):scratchch
regsvr32 %systemroot%\System32\MSSTDFMT.dll
I downloaded the dll and put in the the system32 folder and tried that line your wrote...
still doesnt work... same error...
and trying the regsvr32 doesn't work even if the file is there... any suggestions?
JessesAE86
2nd December 2005, 20:51
Well actually i had the wrong drive letter in...
oops
anyways i fixed it, and the MSSTDFMT.dll file loaded correctly...
it comes up now but i ahve a car selected and it says i don't
JessesAE86
2nd December 2005, 21:04
Alpha .5P5 what im suppose to run?
Fonnybone
2nd December 2005, 21:05
Ya, you might wanna wait for the next update then. If P02 isn't
working for you, there's not much i can do for now.
Just a few questions to help me fix these issues.
1- Are you using another language than english ?
2- Are you using version 0.5P of LFS ?
3- Did you install any patches ?
4- Did you try changing cars to see if it works then ?
Edit: Ok, you posted at the same time, so there you have it, i mentionned this
many times, but i'll say it again, it's ONLY for 0.5P, it doens't work on any
test patches, i don't update for those, only for official patches.
The next update will be for 0.5Q.
Stealthy04
2nd December 2005, 22:41
any idea when you will update for the new patch? i get the no car selected problem. currently running the latest official patch so i presume thats the problem?:Looking_a :shrug:
JessesAE86
3rd December 2005, 02:15
lol i got it working thanx... lol
shoman24v
3rd December 2005, 02:38
I made a vid of this app in action http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=3460
Shotglass
3rd December 2005, 04:37
wheee mechanik finally made drag racing interesting ... not killing your tyres and then trying to keep the car right below 720 until youre save across the line
Hallen
3rd December 2005, 07:01
I had to post to say "Thanks" for doing the mod. I created a BMW 323i (E46) tonight. This is the car that I drive IRL. I think I came pretty close to the right feeling in the car. The HP and torque are about right, but man is it tough to get it there. Lots of trial and error.:nod: I think I will need to lower the weight some and put a passenger in the back to get the weight distribution correct. Anyway, I had a blast with it. :D
Thanks Again.:thumb:
Lible
3rd December 2005, 08:05
I sleeped and sawd a dream, Mecanik worked perfectly :schwitz:
seggons
3rd December 2005, 10:22
I am getting the same error as Hyperactive
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1828/error6cu.jpg
And when I switch cars in-game, the format of files does not change when I go to load up a tweak for a new car. Then I have to use the wrong tweak for the wrong car.
I have also found that everything works ok with the fxo gtr and I have changed all the , into . in the files.
Any help please
Lastest MecaniK with 0.5P :)
:bump:
antseh
3rd December 2005, 10:33
Any plans for a Q version?
Stealthy04
3rd December 2005, 14:03
i cant get it to work.. do i just extract the files in to my lfs folder, run lfs pick a car then run mekanic?
ive done what i think is right, but it says no car selected....
any help? :)
hrtburnout
3rd December 2005, 15:16
Get yourself the right version of LFS, I use 0.5P and I have no trouble at all :).
tanner
5th December 2005, 09:19
I'm having the same problem as stealthy, running LFS version 0.5P5 and Mechanik P5. Also tried putting patch p2 back on and using mek P2 but LFS wouldn't lauch (font error)so at this point there are only 2 things I can think of as a problem....1-The lfs.exe is labeled LFS LFS LFS and 2-I downgraded from the Q patch to P5 so I could use mek
Fonnybone
5th December 2005, 14:34
I'm having the same problem as stealthy, running LFS version 0.5P5 and Mechanik P5. Also tried putting patch p2 back on and using mek P2 but LFS wouldn't lauch (font error)so at this point there are only 2 things I can think of as a problem....1-The lfs.exe is labeled LFS LFS LFS and 2-I downgraded from the Q patch to P5 so I could use mek
Ok, there's some confusion here. This is all explained in the first post,
where you download. Maybe there's too many words and it puts people
off, but seriously guys, all this is either mentionned in the first post, or
somewhere in this thread.
Just to clear things up, it's MecaniK P05, not P5. MecaniK, ANY version
with a 'P' in it, ONLY works with LFS v0.5P. Not P2, not P5, not P57398.
ONLY with 0.5P. The numbers AFTER the letter in LFS releases indicates
a 'test' patch and i don't update for those for many good reasons.
MecaniK on the other hand uses a letter to indicate the official LFS
version to use while the following numbers indicate the MecaniK version,
not the LFS test patches (hence why i used P05 and not P5).
Now, i know 0.5Q is out, and yes, the next MecaniK would be for 0.5Q
unless another official patch comes out first (not a test patch, the next
logical official patch would be 0.5R).
Since i have to change some things a bit (partly because of the recent
HotLap cheating), this isn't a simple update, it might take a bit of time
to sort things out. Let's just say, it won't be tomorrow. ;)
Hallen
5th December 2005, 19:23
It is very simple guys, just unzip 0.5P into a new directory structure and run Mecanik and/or Slick mod using this version of LFS. In this way, you will not save hotlaps to your normal 0.5Q spr directory negating the possibility of uploading bad files. I have a different profile for LFS Mec in my Logitech profiler software that launches the 0.5P version. It makes it really easy to keep the current version for real use, and the 0.5P version for use with Mec. No mess, no hassles and a lot of fun.:D
Lord_Verminaard
5th December 2005, 23:06
Got it to work, by doing the above, still had my original lfs S2 download so I extracted it to a "LFSTweak" directory, although I used all of my unlocks so I just have demo cars for a while. :P
I do have one suggestion- PLEASE do something about the interface, it is downright maddening to use!! With the cusors jumping around and having a dialog box pop up telling you you cant have a null value when all you did was clear out what was there so you can type stuff in. Otherwise, having a lot of fun with it, made an Audi-S1 Quattro, inline 5 turbo with 500 hp, very similar to the rally car and even sounds similar! What a beast to drive, too! Now, if only we could change exhaust raspyness like in LFSTweak... ;)
Shows some great potential. ;)
Brendan
SittinSlidewayys
6th December 2005, 03:15
someone help me. how can i get it to work. i have .5p2 how do i get a different version.
tanner
6th December 2005, 06:19
Just to clear things up, it's MecaniK P05, not P5. MecaniK, ANY version with a 'P' in it, ONLY works with LFS v0.5P. Not P2
Thanks that does clear things up, I'm sure it will work now. Just have to get it back to 5P, Tom
Fonnybone
6th December 2005, 17:01
I do have one suggestion- PLEASE do something about the interface, it is downright maddening to use!!
Already answered a few times. :Looking_a Yes, i KNOW. The reasons are also explained.
someone help me. how can i get it to work. i have .5p2 how do i get a different version.
Again, answered in this very page a few times too. :schwitz:
SittinSlidewayys
6th December 2005, 17:48
well where can i download .5p at.
that1boredguy90
6th December 2005, 23:46
Read through the read, and all of your questions will be answered :)
SittinSlidewayys
7th December 2005, 00:11
yeah i figured it out. it wouldnt work before.
Crazy Harry
7th December 2005, 01:35
I love LFS. The Physics is amazing. My right front wheel bend in 3rd corner on the Oval. I didn´t hit the wall, just inside the corner with 350+ km/h was too much for the suspension.:thumb:
2500 PS+, Split around 10 and a 26.XX Lap. :Looking_a (I´ll never try it to get times online. But its amazing fun on soloplayer.)
tanner
7th December 2005, 10:27
It's working fine for me now :thumb: Crazy Harry-I had the same thing happen with my F08 and managed to get that same car to do a 5.25 second 400m run
Raynold
7th December 2005, 14:21
don't know if everyone has noticed it already but you can view .mpr replays made with mecanik without mecanik running in the background with correct tweaks. cars will just jump around a little but everything shows up correctly.
Edit: here's a boring sample to confirm it's working. I raced around the oval with FO8 a little and did over 10 G's in one of the last turns :smileypul
Primoz
7th December 2005, 15:00
3359 bhp 8 litre flat 12 FXR, 464 kph on the back straight on BlackWood :D
hrtburnout
7th December 2005, 17:34
Wow! I've tried to get a high speed too, but it ****'s up my suspension.
Can someone give me any tips for reaching 600+ km/h?
Breizh
7th December 2005, 17:48
Minimize weight and drag
Maximize power
Set ratios, suspensions, tires, and other settings to maximize traction, starting with where (when) it slips most.
Use Slickmod if you don't mind it
Primoz
7th December 2005, 18:16
FXR on factory settings, power set to 21, insanely stiff suspension (maxxed out), R4s, lowered ride height, and DO NOT press the gas to full. YOu will pop your tyres. I slammed it at about 680-700, spinned instantly (almost poped the tyres) and then i got a reset. The last number i saw was 715 i think. Oh, the car has almost 60k bhp :D Be gentle.:razz:
AJS
7th December 2005, 20:12
Someone should make a functional tractor pulling or monster truck mod :pillepall
kovert
8th December 2005, 01:49
Im using the latest version of LFS ( alpha Q ) with the 0.5p exe included in the 0.4 zip on page 1. and i have tried the mekanik 0.2, 0.4 and 0.5 releases with my car selected ( it says the car name in the top left corner )
and mekanik still tells me to select a car.
Ive read through all 9 pages, and amd pretty sure im doing what im suppolsed to be.. any help would be appreciated.. i REALLY want to change horsepower
Thank you!
JessesAE86
8th December 2005, 02:33
I got my Formula 1 to do 450 MPH...
its insane! lol quarterm ile time was 6.7
dave4002000
8th December 2005, 13:01
Im using the latest version of LFS ( alpha Q ) with the 0.5p exe included in the 0.4 zip on page 1. and i have tried the mekanik 0.2, 0.4 and 0.5 releases with my car selected ( it says the car name in the top left corner )
and mekanik still tells me to select a car.
Ive read through all 9 pages, and amd pretty sure im doing what im suppolsed to be.. any help would be appreciated.. i REALLY want to change horsepower
Thank you!
i'm going to jump in here before FunnyBone has a stroke. lol
this is a release for the 0.5p version of LFS. It WILL NOT work with any other version...period. You said you are running 'Q'...that, my friend, is why it is not working. Download 0.5p and you will have no problems.
kovert
8th December 2005, 15:04
i'm going to jump in here before FunnyBone has a stroke. lol
this is a release for the 0.5p version of LFS. It WILL NOT work with any other version...period. You said you are running 'Q'...that, my friend, is why it is not working. Download 0.5p and you will have no problems.im using the 0.5 application though, just the sub folders from the latest
J.P (GB)
8th December 2005, 15:20
Errr maby the stupidest question yet but how do i tell if mines is 0.5p
Hallen
8th December 2005, 15:28
Errr maby the stupidest question yet but how do i tell if mines is 0.5p
Bottom left of the screen on startup will tell which version you are running. Look for 0.5P... not 0.5P2 or 0.5P9 or 0.5Q.
Good luck.:)
kovert
9th December 2005, 01:56
Still no luck, 0.5P5, with mekaniks2_p05.exe
"please select car"
Fonnybone
9th December 2005, 09:34
im using the 0.5 application though, just the sub folders from the latest
...and this is exactly why it's not working. There has been many changes
in the folder/subfolder files and the only solution is to have a COMPLETE
0.5P version somewhere else to run MecaniK. If you find this too much trouble,
then patience is your only option. Give me time to have a life, and once i get
spare time, enough of it, i'll update with what i HOPE is a more stable version.
Won't be months, but won't be days either. Thanks to all who understand,
and of course, to all who've supported me :)
Between you and me, and the leg chair, out of 20000+ downloads, i only
read a few problems, and they are always the same, so i'm not too
bothered by this honestly. Most people got it to work on their own so i'm
not gonna go wiggle your weewee after you pee if you don't mind. Next
version should have an auto-weewee-shaker in it, or something :scratchch
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