\lspped the Laptop in disaster

[harjun]

first of al, i would just like you to look at ALL of the pictures...and then tell me...casically, temps are going up yo 70 using speedfan, before they went till50-55 while on lfs....so do you think i have mucked up th sensor?...or i have i done somethin g wrong, if i have done something wrong...please tell me what to do, even if it involves sanding stuff down

more pictures in next post

thanks

[Jakg]

Firstly WTF are you doing taking the heatsink off? Congratulations on ruining your thermal paste, and getting air bubbles in there.

That fan looks about 60 mm, which means your better off blowing on it.

In an ideal world you would make some custom brackets and drop on a nice CPU cooler, but i highly doubt you'll get it mounted.

TBH if it were my laptop i'd do nothing, and if it blows send it back under warranty OR i'd replace the stock TIM with some AS5 (Or probably Shin Etsu, depending on how adventurous i felt), if it wouldn't require too much work.

That CPU cooler was designed for a much older batch of CPU coolers, TBH that's now the sort of thing i'd slap on the northbridge.

You can't much up a temp sensor, as the core one is built INTO the CPU die, and the CPU one is underneath the CPU in the socket - if they BOTH read 70 then somethings wrong, but if you get something like a lower core temp than CPU temp it's a possibility (My old CPU did this at the start, never worked out why).

I still don't believe it *actually* loaded at 55° when OC'ed though, from my experience with laptops.

[harjun]

more pics

ny the way, that hs and fan didnt fit :)

[harjun]

more..btw jack, any suggestions to fix it? :shy:38634

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[harjun]

:)

[ajp71]

I really don't get what thought process you used to work out that removing the heat sink and then taking a blurry picture of a screwdriver would be a more sensible solution to solving your overheating issue than just stopping overclocking it and seeing what happened.

What you've done is as about as helpful as checking for a leak from a petrol silo with a lighter.

[The Moose]

any suggestions to fix it? :shy:

Clean off then re-thermal paste the CPU
Put everything back as you found it.
Undo the stupid overclock.
Pray it all still works.
Stop trying your best to ruin a perfectly good laptop.
Job done.:):thumb:

[Jakg]

Please tell me you didn't just take your CPU, clean off the thermal paste, put it back in and wonder why your temperatures were so high...?!


Every CPU and heatsink isn't perfectly flat - so when you put one on top of the other there are thousands of tiny air pockets stopping it making contact, as Air is a fairly good insulator, some heat isn't transferred and thus the CPU get's warm - You use a thermal paste (low heat resistance) to fill up these microscopic holes, making more heat come off the CPU into the heatsink making it run cooler. Now the trick is to use VERY little of this paste, as it is still an ever so slightly insulator - if you use too much, then you get god-awful temps (I've attached the last time i ever let my Dad put thermal paste on, and the amount i used on my old Athlon - as you have no IHS you won't need as much).

Your laptop will naturally run hot (like i said i cannot believe it loaded at 50°, that's why my 3700 did with a bigger overclock, about 50 CFM moving through the case and modded (crappy) water cooling) because of the lack of airflow - when you go and ruin the main part of it's cooling it gets even worse.

By the fact you've tried that crappy heatsink it implies you don't care if it's portable or not - if you don't need something portable, get a flaming desktop. It won't overheat as much, it will be cheaper and faster, more upgradeable, and if you build it you can spot faults so much easier.

[danowat]

Ever heard of the phrase, if it ain't broke don't fix it Harjun?.
Remember it in the future, it will save a HELL of a lot of hassle

[The Moose]

@Jakg

Ohh how i rofl'd at that first pic:D Its like some kind of cake filling!

"Would you like a processor with your thermal paste sir?"

[Jakg]

That's my Dad, a "qualified heating engineer" using half a TUBE of AS5 for ONE application.

MOST of the thermal paste was on the poxy heatsink as well!

This is the same Dad who after getting my to take my GFX card from my PC, snatched it and immediately dropped it on my foot - he then said "If it breaks, it's your fault" and walked off :X

[harjun]

ok thanks guys, well let me tell you story, on Vista, some times load temps were 50-60 Celcius...now after installing XP temps NEVER above 50...well, until i mucked everything up yesterday :(...im not sure i did actually muck it up, so is this thermal paste the lovely squidgy stuff i found on the Heatsink above my graphics card?...because there was a different sort of "sementy" paste on the cpu, which i just scratched of my nail, today after coming back though, load temps are at 55

I really do want to get a desktop now, because after going to my dad's work yesterday, he has a very old computer, which i got the fan off....it was off a Pentium Pro, which was running at 100 Mhz, i dont know which computer is, but it allowed me to enter bios and it managed to be overclocked to 900Mhz...and with that "crappy" fan on it, load temps were 40-45, but there were a few other random fans, and it looks like some heat spreaders on the VGA, i guess my dad had built it a long time ago, how comes my VGA is so small, is it because it uses my RAM as memory?....because it actually has 128 mb dedicated memory, but bios allows you to put 258 more...making it around 350 something i would guess....

I really DO want a new desktop, because i just loved how fun it would be to do stuff to that computer, changing stuff, i also read over my brothers Asus motherboard manual, from a PC he has built recently...and it shows how to install everything, installing a heatsink, and i managed to successfully install the Heatsink on that computer, and load temps went to about...37, as an average calculation, with fan speeds on 100%....its just so fun, i decided when i get to University, my parents will OBVIOUSLY buy me a Custom built PC of my choice if i do good in Key Stage 3, or GSCE, i wish to buy a Core 2 Quad or Duo, as i heard they have a good overclock rate, and as for the overclock on my laptop, i got fed up with it, my laptop is a perfectly good Turion X2 as it is, and well, i am HAPPY with it!

So, when i got home, i was too overconfident, and i tried removing stuff, and well? i HATE laptops, desktops are so much BETTER, they all use the same fan input, my fan input was different, and it only allowed me to install 1 fan, so it was stupid.

So thanks guys for info...do you think i should like, sand it down or something? or should i not, i dont wanna ruin anything....i could just sand my heatsink and not my cpu?

ok thanks guys, i have now lost 5 celcius...but i am gonna study HARD for my gcse and KS3, so i WANT a good desktop :)

Thanks so much Guys

[ajp71]

You managed to overclock a processor 9 times faster than standard and it ran cool?

As for laptops I'm not sure if taking them apart removing the thermal paste then putting them back together would improve many peoples satisfaction level.

[JohnUK89]

it was off a Pentium Pro, which was running at 100 Mhz, i dont know which computer is, but it allowed me to enter bios and it managed to be overclocked to 900Mhz...and with that "crappy" fan on it, load temps were 40-45, but there were a few other random fans, and it looks like some heat spreaders on the VGA, i guess my dad had built it a long time ago

That's just crap, for 3 reasons. First reason: No socket 8 motherboard in existence will allow a Pentium Pro to hit 900MHz (the Multi and FSB are nowhere near high enough, and even if they were, the processor would be massively unstable, and not even POST).
Second reason: The Pentium Pro was manufactured in 150MHz, 166MHz, 180MHz and 200MHz flavours, so even your original clock is wrong.
Third reason: The Pentium Pro didn't have a temperature sensor. Therefore checking core temperatures with them isn't possible.

Before making claims, CHECK YOUR FACTS!

EDIT: Forgot to mention that setting FSB and Multi in the Pentium Pro days involved shifting jumpers around on the motherboard. So even your method of overclocing wouldn't work :D

[Jakg]

I really DO want a new desktop, because i just loved how fun it would be to do stuff to that computer, changing stuff, i also read over my brothers Asus motherboard manual, from a PC he has built recently...and it shows how to install everything, installing a heatsink, and i managed to successfully install the Heatsink on that computer, and load temps went to about...37, as an average calculation, with fan speeds on 100%....its just so fun, i decided when i get to University, my parents will OBVIOUSLY buy me a Custom built PC of my choice if i do good in Key Stage 3, or GSCE, i wish to buy a Core 2 Quad or Duo, as i heard they have a good overclock rate, and as for the overclock on my laptop, i got fed up with it, my laptop is a perfectly good Turion X2 as it is, and well, i am HAPPY with it!WTF are you on.

I've got an Asus manual, and it shows how to install naff all, but it does go on about "ASUS EZSTEP SUPER PROPELLER NITRO TURBO ASAP 1337HAX" technology.

I seriously can't see your parents getting you a custom PC (your looking at £1k plus) for doing well in KS3 - i might come off like a rich spoiled toff with my PC, but i've been saving for a long while with an oppresive father who won't let me spend my own money - i went massively over-budget with my Quad Core (thus the B3) as it is. I thought i was doing well getting some cash towards my bike...So thanks guys for info...do you think i should like, sand it down or something? or should i not, i dont wanna ruin anything....i could just sand my heatsink and not my cpu?

ok thanks guys, i have now lost 5 celcius...but i am gonna study HARD for my gcse and KS3, so i WANT a good desktop :)

Thanks so much Guys
Please do NOT sand your heatsink, your crappy attmept at lapping WILL make things worse.

ok thanks guys, well let me tell you story, on Vista, some times load temps were 50-60 Celcius...now after installing XP temps NEVER above 50...well, until i mucked everything up yesterday ...im not sure i did actually muck it up, so is this thermal paste the lovely squidgy stuff i found on the Heatsink above my graphics card?...because there was a different sort of "sementy" paste on the cpu, which i just scratched of my nail, today after coming back though, load temps are at 55Reinstalling your OS will NOT make a difference to temps, only chances are you used a different version of software to check the temps.

I can't say what Thermal Paste is like, as OEM's use 4 gallons of the stuff and the stuff they do use is utter crap, but AS5

[mcintyrej]

I'm sorry, but I've just laughed my head off reading that.

To be honest Harjun, you should have stopped when we told you. I can see you in the future wasting all of your money on a computer and then overclocking it to death.

Just buy a better computer if you want a fast one - for pete sake.

[ajp71]

Please do NOT sand your heatsink, your crappy attmept at lapping WILL make things worse.

No you should use an angle grinder, it will get the job done quicker and guarantee to leave you a nice shiny surface.

[dropin_biking]

I don't say this too often but Harjun, you are a dumbass...seriously. Don't bother with the custom PC as you probably won't be able to get it together, and if you do, you will probably **** with the vcore and start melting stuff. Your better of just getting one of those pretty simple packages, something that will work, and is up to date, and don't bother overclocking it.
~Bryan~

[Töki (HUN)]

harjun - How much FPS do you have using this laptop? Single player and full grid (32) :)

[harjun]

harjun - How much FPS do you have using this laptop? Single player and full grid (32) :)
well Overclocked it does 50-55 fps...and not overclocked does about...20-30

but 2XAA and 2XAF it does 70 in full grid....and 40 not overclocked

[Jakg]

(FTR - a .4 GHz overclock won't double your FPS, i don't quite think Harjun's comparisons are acurate)

[JohnUK89]

It will on my 233MHz Pentium 1 with MMX! [/leet]

[harjun]

oh yeh....it does actuallly....FYI OMG ....AFK ATM

[JohnUK89]

oh yeh....it does actuallly....FYI OMG ....AFK ATM

Proof?

[The General Lee]

Please don't tell me this is the same Laptop that everyone told you not to overclock then laughed at you when you did and lied about it?

Dear God...

Edit:


I don't really recommend overclocking for you, you are only about 13 and you don't know about your computer a lot



Whoahoho don't overclock your notebook, its going to end in disaster



Overclocking a laptop = No no



Just leave your poor notebook as is, I mean if you want to still have a notebook tomorrow



I STILL RECOMMEND YOU NOT DOING IT!



I really think this is a bad idea



Harjun, I honestly...Totally DO NOT RECOMMEND IT



Just, whatever you do. Don't come crying to us because we showed you how to blow up your computer



My advice is simple: DON'T BOTHER!



THIS IS A REALLY BAD IDEA!



PLEASE don't even try



you really should LEAVE YOUR PC alone



don't even attempt to overclock it



You are honestly the most stupid person ever



just don't respond to this idiot



it obviously isn't a good idea to overclock a laptop



but your an idiot


[SIZE=2][SIZE=2]Harjun.

You WILL break your laptop if you try to overclock the crap out of it like you are suggesting


But those people aren't twats like you



TBH I think he'll get similar results to his overclock attempt by simply hitting the laptop with a blunt object for several minutes



Just remember, if you break your laptop, don't come crying to me



I just wanted you to STFU.



Congratulations, but in the long run you are severly shortening the life of your laptop.



Jesus christ. Stop being an idiot. Stop trying to overclock your laptop


This is just a hand full. Don't say we didn't warn you...

[Origamiboy]

Just follow the advice in the thread and give up the ridiculous overclocking attempts. If you break your laptop you won't get to play LFS at ALL!

Also, what do you think the chances of getting a new desktop from your parents will be if you break the laptop you already have through pure stupidity?

[The Moose]

well Overclocked it does 50-55 fps...and not overclocked does about...20-30

but 2XAA and 2XAF it does 70 in full grid....and 40 not overclocked


Proof please.....in game screenshots will do nicely.

I simply don't believe a word of it.

You would get on a lot better here if you didn't keep making stuff up.
Every time you've been asked for proof about something you haven't been able to provide it.
No one is going to bother wasting their time trying to help you if you carry on like this.:shrug:

[dawesdust_12]

PLEASE!!@!

Go buy a Mac, you can't overclock those, and you'd haffto be a moron to fry one.

For the love of god, and our sanity, get a frikkin iMac, so then we don't haffto listen to your "zomg, OC iMac plz!" threads, because there's 1 answer. You can't, because there are no tools that work with the iMac's motherboard, nor is there a BIOS.

People, call me a Mac fanboy, I don't care, I'm just trying to save mine, and everyone elses sanity, from him asking inane questions about overclocking things that shouldn't be overclocked, it's just stupid Harjun, and you're a waste of time with this "OC MY LAPTOP" bullshit.

[Jakg]

Please don't tell me this is the same Laptop that everyone told you not to overclock then laughed at you when you did and lied about it?
ROFL





Just to set some things straight here - on Harjun's laptop it's got an integrated graphics solution, which is holding his FPS back, so OC'ing the CPU will do nothing anyway.

I'm an overclock whore, i had a old Single Core AMD 3700 - 2.2 GHz. When i tweaked the memory (ie 40% overclock) and overclocked the CPU to 3.07 GHz (40% overclock on that, too) in SuperPi (A CPU benchmarking tool - it will show a CPU improvement far more noticeably than anything else will) and it went from 38 seconds at stock down to 27 when overclocked - that's a 40% improvement, which when you include the extra memory bandwidth and closing some extra processes.

Now Harjun overclocked by 25% and got a 75% FPS improvement. He also overclocked by 25% with no knowledge of dividers on crappy laptop RAM - my Corsair ValueRAM topped out at a 10% OC like most value ram, and as the FSB is linked to the CPU and the memory i had to set up a divider - yet he hasn't. I also had to up the vCore (even if by a little), however this is a mobile chip. Then i'm being told that this thing loads at 50°, which is odd as notebooks run notoriously hot, and i can't see overclocking helping.

I'm not buying it.

[Tweaker]

First off, Jakg I don't know what you are on, but taking off a heatsink and re-applying thermal paste is perfectly normal and 'ok'. All those 'bubbles' from the first pics are the grease from the first time he took it off.

Besides, even if it is a laptop, that is fine too. I normally replaced the grease on my old laptop every 3 months, and it would give me a 10-15C decrease in max temperature each time while gaming. But whatever he is doing with this heatsink... mehhhhh.

If done right, a smart person would take off the paste on both the heatsink and cpu contacts and make sure no residue is left over. Then reapply a small portion in the very middle and re-mount the heatsink. You only need a little bit, and the grease will spread when you re-mount the heatsink, AND the grease will spread when heat dissipates after a week or two of normal use. I am sure we all learned how glue spreads underneath paper when we were kids, yes? :doh:

To be honest, I would go through the steps of applying the new grease, and then run the computer at normal specs. Then once temps seem to be fairly good, try overclocking, or whatever it is that gets you soiled.... :shrug:

If the PC continues to get hot, don't consider a new heatsink, consider looking at your fan/case solution, and see if it is even getting ample cooling overall.

[Jakg]

First off, Jakg I don't know what you are on, but taking off a heatsink and re-applying thermal paste is perfectly normal and 'ok'. All those 'bubbles' from the first pics are the grease from the first time he took it off.The point is he didn't re-apply thermal paste, he re-used the stuff he alreadey had.

Secondly, he also cleaned OFF all the thermal paste and didn't put any more on.

[harjun]

First off, Jakg I don't know what you are on, but taking off a heatsink and re-applying thermal paste is perfectly normal and 'ok'. All those 'bubbles' from the first pics are the grease from the first time he took it off.

Besides, even if it is a laptop, that is fine too. I normally replaced the grease on my old laptop every 3 months, and it would give me a 10-15C decrease in max temperature each time while gaming. But whatever he is doing with this heatsink... mehhhhh.

If done right, a smart person would take off the paste on both the heatsink and cpu contacts and make sure no residue is left over. Then reapply a small portion in the very middle and re-mount the heatsink. You only need a little bit, and the grease will spread when you re-mount the heatsink, AND the grease will spread when heat dissipates after a week or two of normal use. I am sure we all learned how glue spreads underneath paper when we were kids, yes? :doh:

To be honest, I would go through the steps of applying the new grease, and then run the computer at normal specs. Then once temps seem to be fairly good, try overclocking, or whatever it is that gets you soiled.... :shrug:

If the PC continues to get hot, don't consider a new heatsink, consider looking at your fan/case solution, and see if it is even getting ample cooling overall.
ok thank you very much...i dont even know if my dam heatsink actually is touching my Heatsink at the moment...temperatures idle at 60 now...so where do i get the passt from then? any shop like car spares or halfords or something?

[Jakg]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Arctic-Silver-5-3-5g-Tube-Thermal-Paste-Compound-RET_W0QQitemZ180155851590QQihZ008QQcategoryZ46322Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[The General Lee]

Use your brain Harjun.

What are you working on?...


...A PC (Well, Laptop) so you will find the paste in a...you guessed it a PC SHOP!

It means buying it though. If you listened to everyone then you wouldnt have to spend £7 on thermal paste. Nor would you (or your parents) be spending money replacing your laptop.

You parents will not buy you a One Thousand pound PC for doing well in Key Stage 3. Even if they do, please don't over clock that either. Overclocking may come across as cool and it does, a kind of geeky cool, even I want to overclock, but I have the brains, comon sense and knowledge to know better. There are about 15 pages of people telling you not to do it. Now we are only on our 2nd page of how to fix your problem, which everyone warned you would happen.

Please, tell your parents you were a little silly with your laptop, get them to take it to a PC Repair Store (as your nor your parents seem to have any idea on what they are doing) get him to right your wrongs. Forget overclocking, study hard, get a job, pay for your own PC and dont kill that one. Please Harjun, I'm being deadly serious, I want to sit back and laugh at you like I've never laughed at someone before, because...well, you deserve it. People have tried to help you before and because people here are so kind, they will keep on trying. But please, atleast know what you are doing and that WONT come with reading a few links. It comes with years of built up knowledge.

Just listen to what everyone is telling you.

[harjun]

ive already got the case for my pc, and my power adaptor and stuff :) just looking for some more stuff for it, i dunno why im getting it...but i guess i will just use my laptop for some...experiments :)

[mcintyrej]

ive already got the case for my pc, and my power adaptor and stuff :) just looking for some more stuff for it, i dunno why im getting it...but i guess i will just use my laptop for some...experiments :)

Experiments? You mean your going to just blow it up on purpose?

I don't get you mate. If you get a new computer why not sell your laptop and get better parts for your computer so you maybe don't need to overclock it. Honestly, we tell you every 2 minutes because we don't want you frying a perfectly good laptop. Maybe you'll start to belive us after this?

[The Moose]

so where do i get the passt from then? any shop like car spares or halfords or something?

Just too funny for words.

....I'm off to PCworld for some brake pads....catch you later;)

[mikey_G]

harjun, if you overclock you should also benchmark you system. All that I've seen from you are some guesstimates as to what the exact fps was in lfs (while the lfs counter in lfs is the most irregular one i've ever seen).
So why don't you bring out 3dmark and proof the statements you're making (like running a 100mhz ppro at 900mhz!!)

Anyhow, this thread gets my vote for the most ridiculous thread of 2007

[harjun]

well ive already got my case as i said, i really want a quad core, or duo they overclock well till 4 ghz....and my power adapter is pretty cool! it has a fan :)

im hoping for water cooling, ive heard its more reliable, and a bit better?

So, as for my laptop, do i need that arctic cleaner? it says i need it to clean of the crap from cpu and heatsink....i found a set for £7

it will drop my CPU temperature down by 10 celcius....so if my system without my HS like...barely touching my cpu, temperatures idle at 60 celcius, and loads at 70 celcius....so does that mean it will idle around 40-50...but load at 60?

also should i put some on my integrated vga and get rid of that other squiddy stuff?...and will it be permanantly stuck to my CPU and HS, or can i remove it and apply it again, and will it damage anything, and is it safe...if i get it on my hands?

[Jakg]

Harjun, i SERIOUSLY suggest you read up on overclocking and PC's in general before declaring your "power adapter" is cool because it has a fan.

I REALLY wouldn't water cool - too much to go wrong in your hands.

And it will drop your temps more than 10° if your not using any paste at all.

And it's not permanent, and while you shouldn't get it in your eyes or open wounds it's fine on your hands.

[garph]

It's like other people didn't even post any advice or warnings at all.

Biggest forum retard I have ever seen. Harjun, you are a complete cock.

[harjun]

Harjun, i SERIOUSLY suggest you read up on overclocking and PC's in general before declaring your "power adapter" is cool because it has a fan.

I REALLY wouldn't water cool - too much to go wrong in your hands.

And it will drop your temps more than 10° if your not using any paste at all.

And it's not permanent, and while you shouldn't get it in your eyes or open wounds it's fine on your hands.
thank you SIR!

i will ask my dad on getting that, my current idea is

"dad, please can you just buy this for me, its WAY better than the normal rubbish paste i have at the moment, and its PURE SILVER!, thaats SO cheap for PURE silver?! so, and it will also make my performance, WAY WAY WAY! faster"

He should believe that :D

[Jakg]

FTR your better going to your Dad and saying "Dad, i almost broke my laptop by mucking about ignoring about 20 peoples warnings who know more than me" and then saying "...and now i'm FINALLY listening to them. I'll need to buy this paste to fix the massive cockup i made"

[harjun]

FTR your better going to your Dad and saying "Dad, i almost broke my laptop by mucking about ignoring about 20 peoples warnings who know more than me" and then saying "...and now i'm FINALLY listening to them. I'll need to buy this paste to fix the massive cockup i made"
why wont superglue work? will it catch fire? (serious question by the way....:really:) and also, i cant wait till i get my new computer! :)

http://216.52.208.185/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115017

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128046

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143080

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148262

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146673 (2 of these should do the job...)

[Jakg]

why wont superglue work?Why the f*ck do i bother.

FTR NewEgg is a LOT cheaper than the UK - i'd get a P5K, 8800GTS, that memory is a bit naff and you've got no PSU or CPU

[harjun]

Why the f*ck do i bother.

FTR NewEgg is a LOT cheaper than the UK - i'd get a P5K, 8800GTS, that memory is a bit naff and you've got no PSU or CPU
i do have a cpu...its the 1st one, Intel Core 2 Quad...which comes with the CPU cooler, and also, i have got a psu, i ordered it last week with my case

[Jakg]

I can't see a link to the first one, and chances are that PSU won't be man enough

(Without sounding like a fanboy, i'd recommend ditching the Mushkin for some Crucial Ballistix)

[Origamiboy]

Hang on a second. A few days ago you weren't getting a new PC at all, with the SLIM chance of getting one if you do well in your KS3 exams. Now you have a quad core system on order? :shrug:

Also, if you can't understand the difference between a specialised thermal paste and superglue do you really think you should be messing with your machine at all? Methinks not. Then again, this thread has made me laugh out loud so perhaps we should just leave you to it.

For goodness sake, give it up Harjun!

BTW, it seems that Halfords have cut the prices of motherboards and cooling systems in their sale.... :)

[harjun]

http://216.52.208.185/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115017

see it now?

[harjun]

i haven't ordered them yet, my dad just told me, are you SURE that will all work out....

[The General Lee]

So Harjun...you now have Quad Core?

Can I have a few branches of you money tree?

These people know what they are talking about and they know that what you are talking about is utter shite.

Honesty is the key.

Great comment on the super glue!

[The Moose]

Why the f*ck do i bother.

I really don't have a clue tbh. You're completely wasting your time now.

Superglue:banghead: I ask you. Whatever next?

I hear porridge is a good substitute for thermal paste though, he could give that a go. It's has to be of a really thick consistency and must be applied whilst still hot.


PCworld didn't have my brake pads btw. They called security and escorted me from the shop when i asked.

[Origamiboy]

I really don't have a clue tbh. You're completely wasting your time now.

Superglue:banghead: I ask you. Whatever next? I hear porridge is a good substitute for thermal paste though, he could give that a go. It's got to be of a really thick consistency and must be applied whilst still hot.

Failing that I've heard you can get great results with Blu-Tack..:thumb:

[The General Lee]

So Harjun, which nice fellow is just going to give you $1400 (roughly £750) to buy your new PC :)

[harjun]

Failing that I've heard you can get great results with Blu-Tack..:thumb:
cool.... you get 50% free here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLUE-TACK-ADHESIVE-50-FREE-ORIGINAL-BOSTIK-REUSABLE_W0QQitemZ250159793408QQihZ015QQcategoryZ4 0001QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

but....like, are you SURE that would work

And by the way...i havent ordered it....but i am sure i am getting something, my dad said cause ive been good for the past year and got no trouble in school! .... or on the other hand i could get a go kart my dad said and start go karting....but i would prefer a G25....or that computer....i have a choice really, G25, Custom pc, Go kart

I would love the PC though!

[The General Lee]

Whats that I can smell?

Your dad really needs his head checking to spend atleast £700 on you because you didn't get in trouble for a whole year. I have never been in big trouble, yet I have bought almost everything with my own money.

[Jakg]

cool.... you get 50% free here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLUE-TACK-ADHESIVE-50-FREE-ORIGINAL-BOSTIK-REUSABLE_W0QQitemZ250159793408QQihZ015QQcategoryZ4 0001QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

but....like, are you SURE that would work

And by the way...i havent ordered it....but i am sure i am getting something, my dad said cause ive been good for the past year and got no trouble in school! .... or on the other hand i could get a go kart my dad said and start go karting....but i would prefer a G25....or that computer....i have a choice really, G25, Custom pc, Go kart

I would love the PC though!
Good luck getting a decent kart for £700.

Sell your laptop, build a budget PC (ie E6750, 8600) and save the rest for when you ACTUALLY need it.

[The Moose]

G25, Custom pc, Go kart

Take the Go Kart. your not cut out for PC's, and real racing is 100x the fun of gaming.

[tristancliffe]

Go to an automotive parts shop, and buy some copper shim material. Copper is an excellent conductor of heat. Cut it (using safety scissors) to size and use that instead of paste - tidier.

Don't worry about swarf and filings, as they burn up as soon as turn on the power - fail safe. Probably a couple of degrees cooler than paste too :D

[The Moose]

Go to an automotive parts shop, and buy some copper shim material...............


Will that work in conjunction with the Blu-Tac and porridge?

[WGooden]

Hey Harjun Super Glue On The Heatsink Works Gr8 M8, Its Perfect For Those Of Us Who Don't Wanna Pay For The Name Brand "Arctic Polar Ice"!!!!

[mikey_G]

Hey Harjun Super Glue On The Heatsink Works Gr8 M8, Its Perfect For Those Of Us Who Don't Wanna Pay For The Name Brand "Arctic Polar Ice"!!!!
don't sniff the glue dude, it makes your pinky spasm on the shift key

[harjun]

don't sniff the glue dude, it makes your pinky spasm on the shift key
lol....im gonna try that arctic silver 5 :) has anyone got any pictures of what its like...and how to put it on (videos aswell)

[Jakg]

lol....im gonna try that arctic silver 5 :) has anyone got any pictures of what its like...and how to put it on (videos aswell)
This is too much, but it's a good idea of how much to aim for.

Please ONLY put it on the bit in the middle (the die) - you should only need half that amount on a CPU with no IHS. (http://www.lfsforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=38656&d=1188716425)

[mcintyrej]

lol....im gonna try that arctic silver 5 :) has anyone got any pictures of what its like...and how to put it on (videos aswell)

Just got open the tube and spread it all over the insides of your computer.

The whole thing will cool down a lot!

[Bob Smith]

This is total classic.

harjun - artic silver (or any other thermal paste) is easy to apply, squeeze a little from the tube and spread it as thinly and evenly as possible, use the edge of a credit card or similar. Once covered, remount the heatsink. Note if the heatsink base doesn't have a mirror finish, it can be worthwhile rubbing in a small amount of the paste into the base of the heatsink, the wiping off the excess. This should fill in any microscopic air holes for a better seal.

Edit: slow

[harjun]

Thanks you Mr. Bob Smith, and thanks Jakg....so is that stuff better than the old stuff....if it is, load temps should be sometimes below 50....:) ooh, this will be good :)

[Shotglass]

Then reapply a small portion in the very middle and re-mount the heatsink. You only need a little bit, and the grease will spread when you re-mount the heatsink, AND the grease will spread when heat dissipates after a week or two of normal use. I am sure we all learned how glue spreads underneath paper when we were kids, yes? :doh:

uh no doesnt quite work that way

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Arctic-Silver-5-3-5g-Tube-Thermal-Paste-Compound-RET_W0QQitemZ180155851590QQihZ008QQcategoryZ46322Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

id rather advise someone whos ...... like him to buy zalman or any other more fuild grease ... with as you have to have a bit of a clue on what youre doing

I hear porridge is a good substitute for thermal paste though, he could give that a go. It's has to be of a really thick consistency and must be applied whilst still hot.

this one german site did a review on alternative thermal greases a while ago ... sadly its in german but i think the pics speak for themself
http://www.silenthardware.de/reviews/misc/alternative_warmeleitpasten
(i especially love the bit where they go on about how good the toothpaste smells at above 50°C)

[DaveWS]

If Harjun is telling the truth about his parents, then...

Harjun, tell your parents to read this: You, are all idiots.

You sound like the ultimate spoilt brat Harjun.

I actually sometimes think Harjun's license is just some nutter trying to be funny, like its all a big joke.

And you Jakg, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?? STOP WASTING YOUR TIME WITH HIM!!

Edit: As this post is relatively useless, if you want some advice, throw the laptop out of the window and get a proper damn life.

[The Moose]

this one german site did a review on alternative thermal greases a while ago ... sadly its in german but i think the pics speak for themself

So..does that little chart at the bottom actually say that the temp was lower using Colgate rather than thermal compound?:scratchch

I think Harjun's wasting his(parents)money on Arctic Silver:)



And where can i get some of that curry ketchup? that looks bloody great! (for food, not my computer:razz:)

[dropin_biking]

Jesus this guy never learns. Surprized his profile says hes 14, he acts like hes 10...Just give it the f*ck up. Maybe show your parents this thread so they will not to get you a new PC...
~Bryan~

[harjun]

so should i get that arctic silver stuff then?

[Nathan_French_14]

Harjun, can i see some pics of your new desktop case, and your power supply etc.?

[The Moose]

Harjun, can i see some pics of your new desktop case, and your power supply etc.?


..and it's not any old power supply..it's has a fan!

[harjun]

yep! HAS A FAN!...hey Frenchy, i will show you the pics...when i go to my dad's work ok? :)

[tristancliffe]

My power supply had a fan. I'm referring, of course, to the supply of my old 386, back in the days...

[Nathan_French_14]

Holy crap, your power supply has a fan? daaaamn wish i had one [/sarcasm]

Nice one on getting the pics harjun, when you reckon you can take some pics?

[harjun]

maybe saturday when i go to my dad's work and i dont have school? :)

[dropin_biking]

Thats pretty cool about your PSU having a fan, guess what, my shitty 5 year old Celeron has a fan on its 300watt low amp PSU too. Isn't that just amazing? It's soo advanced... got a web link to the case and PSU you bought?
~Bryan~

[GFresh]

I would donate a tube of AS5 to Harjun, i have more tubes of the stuff here than i can shake a stick at, but i don't think i should. It won't do any good, he will waste the stuff, put it in the wrong place or something. Or maybe take the heatsink back off to apply MORE paste when he see's the temp drop after putting some on initially.

[xaotik]

use the edge of a credit card

Or, if your mum won't let you use her credit card again you can always use a £50 bill before disposing of it in the fireplace after taking a swing of port and indulging yourself to a self-praising chuckle of utter success.

[Jakg]

harjun - artic silver (or any other thermal paste) is easy to apply, squeeze a little from the tube and spread it as thinly and evenly as possible, use the edge of a credit card or similar. Once covered, remount the heatsink. Note if the heatsink base doesn't have a mirror finish, it can be worthwhile rubbing in a small amount of the paste into the base of the heatsink, the wiping off the excess. This should fill in any microscopic air holes for a better seal.
Actually the best way it to use the amount of AS5 you need (which comes from experience) and then use the HS pressure to make a thin layer - this way you get no air bubbles, however if you use too little, or too much...

If you want to try this, get an extra tube of AS5, just to put some on and see if squeezing it out works for you, ie if you use too much/little.

[Töki (HUN)]

Harjun, check your PM's please :)

[harjun]

Harjun, check your PM's please :)
i have...i hope you aren't joking, because, well, he asked me how do i make his laptop faster, and i said use ATI Winclk...and UP IT HIGH!

[Jakg]

FTR that app is an ATi Overcloking tool

ATi Tool is much better, as it has artefact scanning built in...

[harjun]

but i can't overclock my graphics card with that programme...doesnt work :(, unless you can help me jakg?

[mcintyrej]

Oh god, here we go again.

mcintyrej voted to ban Jakg from posting. [1/1]

Vote completed.

[harjun]

Oh god, here we go again.

mcintyrej voted to ban Jakg from posting. [1/1]

Vote completed.no....

anyway jakg....so should i just order that arctic silver 5....and put about a ball the size of a bb pellet on it, and then spread with a card?....so all area is covered....with a nice layer, about a fifth of a millimetre deep?....and then do the same on my heatsink right?

[Jakg]

*slaps Head*

Firstly, please do NOT overclock any part of your PC. If you want more speed, and you blatently don't want portability, sell the laptop and get a desktop.

If i were you i'd get some AS5, get a ball HALF the size of a BB pellet then push the heatsink on.

Don't try to measure it in any sort of layer - ideally you want enough to fill any microscopic holes and to counteract for any convex/concave-ness, which could mkae it a nanometer thick.

[harjun]

im not going to overclock it...and yes, here is my thread ...
http://www.overclock.net/intel-build-logs/233459-some-suggest-good-overclockable-computer.html

i decided not to go with that quad....i asked on the forums, i'm going to go with their advice, i'm just going to fix my laptop up nice and clean, put the "return to factory settings" disc back in returning it to crappy vista....and give it a good clean, and maybe sell it, or i might keep xp and use laptop around the house...etc.

as for the desktop, i've provided the link above. I guess thats quite an amazing PC for....well £500!, i already have a half decent monitor anyway, and i can buy one of those :)

are you sure i don't need to spread like, the arctic silver around?....because a half bb of that isn't going to be enough....and the cpu metal thingy which i will be putting the AS5 on, is rectangular..., so shall i put half a bb on each side?

[Jakg]

Erm, the PC he just specced out is a dual core E2180 - Chozart is working on the assumption that you know how to overclock - i'd go for something like an E6320 or an E6420...

You shouldn't need to spread the AS5, and half a BB WILL be enough, do not use a rediculous amount.

[Nathan_French_14]

I think i can sell my laptop for £400-£450...

No way would you be able to sell it for that price. You will be lucky to get £150 for it.

[ajp71]

Erm, the PC he just specced out is a dual core E2180

What exactly is the difference between the different Core 2 processors? Any site got a nice little plain english run down of the differences?

[Jakg]

Dual Cores:
The E21x0 series - badged as Pentiums, but Core 2 based, "only" have 1 MB of Cache though, this only makes 5% difference in tests to 4 MB cache - overclock monsters - 800 MHz FSB

E4300/E4400 - 1 MB cache, 800 MHz FSB - Old budget overclockers.

The E6300/E6400 - 1.86/2.13 GHz, 2 MB Cache, 1066 MHz FSB

The E6320/E6400/E6600/E6700 - 1.86/2.13/2.4/2.66 GHz, 4 MB cache - 1066 MHz FSB

The E6550/E6750/E6850 - 1333 MHz FSB, 4 MB cache.

Quad Cores:
Xeon X3210 (Strictly a Q6400, however they decided to badge it as a Xeon) - 8 MB Cache, 2.13 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB

Q6600, QX6700 - 1066 MHz FSB, 8 MB cache

QX6850 - 3 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB.

The "Q" means Quad Core, the "X" means Extreme, which means unlocked multipliers (upwards, all will go down 3x).

The FSB doesn't make too much difference, it's the speed the CPU and the RAM interface at, ie 800 MHz FSB = DDR400, 1333 MHz FSB = DDR667

Cache makes minimal difference (tests showed a 3 GHz E6600 vs a 3 GHz E2160 left the E2160 only about 5% down - not bad for half the price!).

TBH FSB is a little bit stupid - overclock whores will probably end up running a high number to use all of their memory bandwidth, ie i'm running at 1600 MHz FSB and i've "only" overclocked from 2.13 to 2.8 GHz

The important new revision of Core 2 CPU's is the "G0" stepping - these run cooler, and can take more heat - the golden example is the G0 Q6600, which is good for up to 3.6 GHz on high end air cooling.

That ok?

[harjun]

whoa....cool!

anyway, :)

your coool jakg :)

[Nathan_French_14]

dont forget to get pics of your new desktop harjun. :D

[Jakg]

To Harjuns defence - he said he wanted to get this hardware, not that he had...

[harjun]

my cousin's laptop which he has passed over to me has an Intel Centrino Duo processor 1.7Ghz...2Gb RAM 512mb Graphics card...and its really good because it runs LFS at around 80-90 fps....but the problem is, is that it puts out...a LOT of heat, load temps are 70 celcius...i have a feeling that it is VERY dusty inside, i haven't tried cleaning it though, its an acer like mine...but a LOT better, mainly because of the VGA, Processor, and RAM....BUT!, its really cool inside, its heatsink is like mine, but for some reason, it has....TWO of them!, and it has its own little mini heatsink on the graphics card

I opened up my sister's laptop...and that has a proper IHS....with a fan on top...sort of like the blue one i have pictures of in my first few posts....its load temps are an unbeliavable 45 celcius...and that is the TRUTh...but its only a centrino DUO...with 1gb of ram, and im not sure which VGA it has....

Its soo cool, but it runs lfs at only 50fps....so i believe the thing which is letting my laptop down, is the Graphics card, also, will there be an increase in performance on the processor side....if the temperatures are at a reasonable load amount (i dunno....35-40?)....and, so, this is the summarry

My Laptop: Standard- 40fps
Overclocked to 1.9Ghz, and VGA core speed at 500Mhz- 60-70fps, on very high quality

Sisters Laptop: Standard- 50fps

Cousins Laptop: 90-100fps....

Bear in mine, i have a AMD Turion 64 X2

so....do you think its my vga letting me down?, and do you think i could possibly buy a new one, because i'm not so sure about buying my custom PC....because i guess i will have trouble making it, and by the way, do i have to put all of those resisters and what not on the motherboard ON?

So, is there anyway i could upgrade my integrated...VGA?

Thanks
Harjun

[Jakg]

Errr, no. The resistors are already on the motherboard....

And BTW i REALLY doubt that you get that such an FPS drop via overclocking...

Added some pictures of my A8N-SLi - it also came with some cables, but as you can see everything was already on it.

[Shotglass]

You shouldn't need to spread the AS5, and half a BB WILL be enough, do not use a rediculous amount.

id claim that as is way too sticky to do it this way

[Jakg]

id claim that as is way too sticky to do it this wayWorked for me

[Shotglass]

well it doesnt seem to have exactly covered the entire surface of the heat spreader

[Jakg]

Doesn't need to - the IHS covers a relatively small die in the centre, you don't actually need to cover the whole IHS...

[Shotglass]

the entire point of a heat spreader is to spread the heat more or less evenly across its entire surface (and to keep people like harjun from killing their cpu while mounting a cooler) so while its not necessary to cover the entire contact patch it still makes sense in terms of cooling performance

[harjun]

is this stuff sticky?
will hopefully get pics tomorrow! :)

[Bob Smith]

Worked for me
You fail.

(I agree with Shotglass)

[harjun]

aww....Jakg failed?, dam

[Jakg]

You fail.

(I agree with Shotglass)From all the tests i've seen, theres no point in going to the edges...

[harjun]

yes....when i put that crappy blue heatsink on the pentium pro...the pentium pro is about the size of like...one of those tin mathematical set pencil case thing....and i put it in the middle...and somehow it just cooled the whole big chunk of 100Mhz metal down

jakg is right! :thumb:

[Jakg]

Harjun, i was talking about what's optimum - you could use more, and less thermal paste than i did and it still work, but that particular way got me the best temps

On the Quad i have to draw a line of AS5 down the middle :X

[harjun]

coool....i love you

[Töki (HUN)]

Mr. Harjun! Please check your private messages:)

[harjun]

Mr. Harjun! Please check your private messages:)
yep i have, run it as adminastrator...and here are my settings, sorry i couldnt do attatchment in PM :)

[harjun]

another

[11SuLLy11]

Amazes me how stupid someone can be :shrug: don't try and fix it if there is nothing to fix ...

[harjun]

Amazes me how stupid someone can be :shrug: don't try and fix it if there is nothing to fix ...
im glad you are amazed....

[Töki (HUN)]

Thank you very much! What resolution do you use?

[harjun]

Thank you very much! What resolution do you use?
i dont understand what you mean...i have 32 bit?

[Töki (HUN)]

1280x800? 1024x768?...:D
BTW I managed to open WINCLK, I only need the data and I leave you live:) Sorry for disturbing:tilt:

[harjun]

i got Widescreen 15.4 Inch...oh yeh, put your core clock RIGHT up to 500, it should be fine then, well, mine is usually 600-650...but when i get to 660.....the screen has little green random pixels everywhere, so i stay at 620, better for cooling and etc.

:)

[Nathan_French_14]

ive already got the case for my pc, and my power adaptor and stuff :) just looking for some more stuff for it, i dunno why im getting it...but i guess i will just use my laptop for some...experiments :)

have you got it or not? Because you have said you have. If so, i wanna see some pics :D

[Töki (HUN)]

i got Widescreen 15.4 Inch...oh yeh, put your core clock RIGHT up to 500, it should be fine then, well, mine is usually 600-650...but when i get to 660.....the screen has little green random pixels everywhere, so i stay at 620, better for cooling and etc.

:)

Alright, and how can I save this setting..I type in 500, and then press Enter..then it shows 0.00 again:shrug:

[Jakg]

Click "Get Clock Info" first.

FTR i REALLY wouldn't take advice on overclocking stuff from Harjun - EVERY component overclocks differently...

[Töki (HUN)]

when I click "Get Clock Info" it sais both the Engine and Memory are set to 0.00. After this I type 500, and click almost everywhere, but it still shows 0.00:schwitz:

BTW I just wanna gain more FPS in LFS then 40-50

[dropin_biking]

Whats wrong with 40-50 fps in LFS? Thats more then play-able...
~Bryan~

[Töki (HUN)]

Whats wrong with 40-50 fps in LFS? Thats more then play-able...
~Bryan~

I managed to get that 40-50 FPS in Single Player...What about the 32 player grid??

[dropin_biking]

^I'm under half that FPS in single player, with EVERYTHING down (even 800x600 res) How do you think I feel at the grid? Quit yur bitchin' as my crazy old man would say :p
~Bryan~

[harjun]

i bought some of this today....is it like...safe to use on my keyboard, and around my motherboard?

[Blackout]

i bought some of this today....is it like...safe to use on my keyboard, and around my motherboard?

It's pressurised air. What do you think?

[dropin_biking]

Looks like a basic co2 canister. Just compressed air, won't really harm anything. Works great on my old 478heatsink when I cleaned it, spray it under the keyboard cracks, real handy thing to have around when repairing older computers.
~Bryan~

[zeugnimod]

What does the word mean that you underlined? :confused:

:tilt:

[harjun]

Looks like a basic co2 canister. Just compressed air, won't really harm anything. Works great on my old 478heatsink when I cleaned it, spray it under the keyboard cracks, real handy thing to have around when repairing older computers.
~Bryan~
are you being sarcastic?...or you telling the truth. If so, thank you byan

[dropin_biking]

No I'm being series, I've used it to clean my printer (this was a bit of a careful task) As long as you know that theres cold compressed air coming out at a high velocity (no putting against skin, or near anything that might get harmed)
~Bryan~

[harjun]

No I'm being series, I've used it to clean my printer (this was a bit of a careful task) As long as you know that theres cold compressed air coming out at a high velocity (no putting against skin, or near anything that might get harmed)
~Bryan~
ok thank you....i sprayed a little bit on my heatsink, which is above my cpu...and for some reason its staying cold now, that stuffs well good, tempereatures are quite low, but it leaves behind, a wet substance, water i would guess?

[Blackout]

Well if you spray it too much the cold air forms ice, which when it melts turns into water.

[harjun]

oh, but when i spray it a little bit, it just blows normal air out, but when i shake+spray at the same time...it blows out some other compound, which then forms water?...does that mean my can is nearing its expiry date?

[dropin_biking]

You're not supost to shake it...did you read the side of it first? Just spray straight or on a slight angle, you're starting to spray out the actual liquid in the container, that's not a good thing. Just quick bursts too. To prevent the can from cooling down too rapidly. Jeez, you screw up everything you touch...
~Bryan~

[harjun]

it empty now

[ChiliFan]

This saga of 'overclocking -> being told not to -> completely cocking up' is epic.

[DaveWS]

Don't spray with the can upside down. And for christ sake get a brain while you're at it.

[The General Lee]

it empty now

Are you talking about where your brain should be or the can?

[harjun]

Are you talking about where your brain should be or the can?
the can...and i'm probably more cleverer than all of you, i got to the 4th best school in the whole of england...Haberdashers Aske's Boy's School... and i got i

[Jakg]

No offence, but while i don't think any of us are going to win the "best school" competition i don't think your going to win this competition

Especially not by saying "i'm probably more cleverer"

EDIT - From the Wikipedia:

"The school was ranked at 24 by The Sunday Times in their 2006 Parent Power feature [1] on the best independent schools, down from 18 in the previous year. According to the Times rankings, Habs came 20th (out of 1150 schools) in GCSE rankings [2] and 72nd (out of 939) at A level [3], though this is largely due to the fact that most boys at Habs only took three A-levels, and so received a lower total score than other comparable schools. In the same year The Telegraph placed Habs in 44th place based on A and AS level results [4], and 24th (out of 2703) in their full list ranked by average score per A-level entry [5]."

The GCSE results are impressive, but WTF is with 3 A-Levels?! Even i'm doing 4...

[11SuLLy11]

Harjun once again makes a total twat of himself......:x

[harjun]

Harjun once again makes a total twat of himself......:x
go away.....

[Origamiboy]

the can...and i'm probably more cleverer than all of you, i got to the 4th best school in the whole of england...Haberdashers Aske's Boy's School... and i got i

Yikes! I think your parents should ask for their money back!

[sam93]

If he says he is more clever then any of us he has definitely made himself look thick he hasn't a clue about pc's he just messes them up lol

Harjun, Stop digging yourself dipper and dipper hole each time you are going to reach the middle of the earth in a minute lol.

Sam.

[zeugnimod]

the can...and i'm probably more cleverer than all of you, i got to the 4th best school in the whole of england...Haberdashers Aske's Boy's School... and i got i

What does your intelligence have to do with the school you go to?

[ajp71]

Harjun you must have some very clever people at your school to balance out the grades :)


The GCSE results are impressive, but WTF is with 3 A-Levels?! Even i'm doing 4...

Four A2s? Isn't common, 4 ASs and dropping a subject for A2 is what most people do at my school (although some keep all 4 or do less ASs).

[harjun]

ok, i'm still clever, i couldn't find a video on youtube to help me apply the paste, may someone please find me a video of how to do it on a laptop? (applying the paste etc.)

[sam93]

ok, i'm still clever, i couldn't find a video on youtube to help me apply the paste, may someone please find me a video of how to do it on a laptop? (applying the paste etc.)

If you are clever you should know how to do it, and how do you know if there are not adults here helping you out who are a lot clever then most of us on here.

Sam.

[The Moose]

ok, i'm still clever, i couldn't find a video on youtube to help me apply the paste, may someone please find me a video of how to do it on a laptop? (applying the paste etc.)


You don't need a video, you need to read what you have been told several times in this thread and Jakg even provided pics. It's so simple a monkey with brain damage could do it.

That school your going to isn't doing a very good job.
Get a grip and for once listen to what people tell you.

I'm starting to think that you are winding us all up deliberately.:scratchch
Maybe we're the suckers here?:razz:

[harjun]

You don't need a video, you need to read what you have been told several times in this thread and Jakg even provided pics. It's so simple a monkey with brain damage could do it.

That school your going to isn't doing a very good job.
Get a grip and for once listen to what people tell you.

I'm starting to think that you are winding us all up deliberately.:scratchch
Maybe we're the suckers here?:razz:no seriously....sorry if im not good in computers, i just want an educational video...

[Mikkel Petersen]

ok, i'm still clever, i couldn't find a video on youtube to help me apply the paste, may someone please find me a video of how to do it on a laptop? (applying the paste etc.)
"cleverer". :razz:

[dropin_biking]

Damn dude we've already made it as easy as we can for you. We gave you pictures, we had numerous people give different explanations (all of which would work) yet you still don't get it. If you cannot apply a little tube of silver substance to a flat surface, at the age of?... then you seriously should re-consider your weekend hobbies. How you managed to waste an ENTIRE can of compressed air is beyond me, I have a 10oz can of the stuff right beside me and its lasted months, and I use it regularly on my printer, my stereo, and my DSL modem (cat likes to wander around the computer desk) You probably screwed something up by spraying the COLD and WET LIQUID co2 onto your computer. Just give up, seriously. Take whats left of your laptop to the local computer store, get them to repair it, lock the BIOS for you, and let you carry on with your life. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I find it unreal how somebody can be so stupid and thick-headed.
~Bryan~

[mcintyrej]

no seriously....sorry if im not good in computers, i just want an educational video...

Why!?

You've been told and shown how to!

Do you need instructions on how to move your arm and how to squeeze the tube? :really:

[harjun]

Why!?

You've been told and shown how to!

Do you need instructions on how to move your arm and how to squeeze the tube? :really:
:)

but some people have said put a dot and just put the heatsink on, and some have said rub it with a credit card, i'm just a bit confused :(

[Mikkel Petersen]

Why!?

You've been told and shown how to!

Do you need instructions on how to move your arm and how to squeeze the tube? :really:
sweet signature you got there. :razz:

[harjun]

sweet signature you got there. :razz:
haha just noticed that, THANKS!

[Blackout]

:)

but some people have said put a dot and just put the heatsink on, and some have said rub it with a credit card, i'm just a bit confused :(

Both work.

[dropin_biking]

Anybody else feel their brain cells slowly float away whilst having this thread open?...
~Bryan~

[harjun]

Both work.
ok thank you, i will spread it around with my jym pass card :)

[mcintyrej]

Anybody else feel their brain cells slowly float away whilst having this thread open?...
~Bryan~

To be honest, this thread is rather ammusing and educational for other people wanting to do similar things.

Harjun, both methods work fine. Just put a dot on and leave it, rather than probably ruin a credit card.

[harjun]

To be honest, this thread is rather ammusing and educational for other people wanting to do similar things.

Harjun, both methods work fine. Just put a dot on and leave it, rather than probably ruin a credit card.
ok, but can i just try to spread it? and if it doesnt work i will just rub it of?

[mcintyrej]

ok, but can i just try to spread it? and if it doesnt work i will just rub it of?

Why do you want to if it works anyway? You could spread it, but I'm just telling you that due to your record of doing things properly, I suggest doing it the most simple way possible.

[harjun]

Why do you want to if it works anyway? You could spread it, but I'm just telling you that due to your record of doing things properly, I suggest doing it the most simple way possible.
ok, so i just put a dot half a bb size...and place the heatsink nicely on top? :)

[Jakg]

Yup, just put a small blob, half the size of a bb pellet in the centre of the die, and then put the heatsink back on, screw it all up and then leave it now that it works.

[dropin_biking]

Yes, said a million times. Just make sure the heatsink is on firm and tight, and that the clips are properly engaged...
~Bryan~

[harjun]

which clips? there are only screws on mine

like picture 2 or picture 3, i know you have told me to do it like picture 2, but i'm not certain it will spread the whole way? :(

[Jakg]

Some desktop's use clips, some use screws.

[harjun]

which clips? there are only screws on mine

like picture 2 or picture 3, i know you have told me to do it like picture 2, but i'm not certain it will spread the whole way? :(
so...please can someone answer question?/ :shrug:

[Origamiboy]

Just make sure the damn heatsink is attached firmly to the die. If it uses clips, clip it. If it uses screws, use them.

Would you like a video tutorial on how to use a screwdriver?!

Jeez... :D

[mcintyrej]

which clips? there are only screws on mine

like picture 2 or picture 3, i know you have told me to do it like picture 2, but i'm not certain it will spread the whole way? :(

Your not certain? Okay then. If you know better then just pour the paste out all over and slam the heatsink down.

One dot, is fine. Honestly, trust us for once.

[dropin_biking]

Harjun are you really fourteen? Or is there a mistake in your profile? And by the way that was a serious questions...
A little more on topic, once you boot up the laptop check out the temps at LOAD and see if the laptop is overheating still...
~Bryan~

[harjun]

ok i will trust you all!

[The General Lee]

*rubs hands together*

[harjun]

*rubs hands together*
i love you

[The General Lee]

What the...

[dadge]

must.........resist.........urge........

[ChiliFan]

Harjun, if you really go to "the 4th best school in the whole of england", you should at least be able to use correct punctuation and spelling. Or do you need an educational video?

[(-Mark-)]

if he did go there, they would teach you how to spell "gym" properly :P

harjun, listen to these people..and not everything will be spoon fed to you.. you have to to some things by yourself

[11SuLLy11]

Thread of the month hahaah makes me laugh...

[Blaeza]

Up until now, I have declined to comment on this subject as I know little about P.C. maintainence and whatnot, but for god's sake, someone just shoot this little ingrown toenail of a child and put him out of his misery. How do you cope with life? Imagine him waking up and thinking "How do I put my socks on? Oh, hang on, I'll look at Youtube for an instructional video! Oh, I can't because I put 43 gallons of thermal paste on my laptop's cpu instead of half a bb's worth. Damn, I'm such a pillock..." and so on. I've given up "Pulls out 357 Magnum, BOOOOOOOM!!!!! thunk"

Post 600, woohoo!

[dropin_biking]

^Would have been better if that was your 666'th post :p
~Bryan~

[Blaeza]

^Would have been better if that was your 666'th post :p
~Bryan~

ROFL!:D

[(-Mark-)]

Lol@5star rating >.<

[dawesdust_12]

GUYS! I need help!

I can't find a video on Youtube on how to Flame!!

M I DOING THS RHT?!

HARJUN! STOP MESSING AROUND WITH STUFF, AND LEAVE IT AS IS, BECAUSE YOU'VE WASTED MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME OF OURS!.

[andybarsblade]

hmmm dead clever you aint ya, cant even use a can of compressed air.
did you get to live this long? your mum must be sick of dressing feeding and cleaning you.
grow up and if you do know how to do somthing then just dont do it

[JohnUK89]

HARJUN! STOP MESSING AROUND WITH STUFF, AND LEAVE IT AS IS, BECAUSE YOU'VE WASTED MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME OF OURS!.

It's not only the time of people who have read and replied to his threads that he has wasted...it's his own.

Harjun, this is the last message I'll be posting in any of your threads until you learn to do your own research before coming running for help when you mess something up, despite advice not to bother.

My message is this: put the machine back together, clock it back to stock levels, and STOP. You've created nothing but trouble for yourself by overclocking it, and you're only going to create more trouble by trying to overclock the graphics. Follow Jack's advice: sell the laptop and buy a desktop, they're much better for LFS and gaming in general.

[Töki (HUN)]

Harjun - PM - Thanks

[harjun]

It's not only the time of people who have read and replied to his threads that he has wasted...it's his own.

Harjun, this is the last message I'll be posting in any of your threads until you learn to do your own research before coming running for help when you mess something up, despite advice not to bother.

My message is this: put the machine back together, clock it back to stock levels, and STOP. You've created nothing but trouble for yourself by overclocking it, and you're only going to create more trouble by trying to overclock the graphics. Follow Jack's advice: sell the laptop and buy a desktop, they're much better for LFS and gaming in general.
i dont need your help, general lee is my best friend, and jakg

[mcintyrej]

i dont need your help, general lee is my best friend, and jakg

LOL.

I actually Lol'd when I thought of the look on Jak & Niall's faces right now.

Harjun, if you trusted Jak so much, you'd take his advice and just stop messing.

How's the Laptop running now, by the way?

[harjun]

LOL.

I actually Lol'd when I thought of the look on Jak & Niall's faces right now.

Harjun, if you trusted Jak so much, you'd take his advice and just stop messing.

How's the Laptop running now, by the way?
its good, i unstalled vista again on it now yesterday, and its quite good :), just installing the ATI driver right now :), for some reason its idling at 67 celcius, at the moment i speak, i hell NOT try lfs, i have my homework near the laptop...

[Nathan_French_14]

its good, i unstalled vista again on it now yesterday, and its quite good :), just installing the ATI driver right now :), for some reason its idling at 67 celcius, at the moment i speak, i hell NOT try lfs, i have my homework near the laptop...

67c?! is that your gfx or cpu? Cause thats quite hot.

[mcintyrej]

its good, i unstalled vista again on it now yesterday, and its quite good :), just installing the ATI driver right now :), for some reason its idling at 67 celcius, at the moment i speak, i hell NOT try lfs, i have my homework near the laptop...

Your CPU is idling at 67? Christ. What have you got it clocked to?!

[harjun]

nothing, its bog standard, its got back to idling at 40 now, i think it was like...loading up or something

and....i am never overclocking again, i unsertand it perfectly well now, and i will only overcllck a Core 2 Duo, or quad or whatever in a desktop, if/when i get one, i understand the dangers....

that was wierd...70c on idle hey? lol :) mcinjry...you are also my best friend :)

[The Moose]

for some reason its idling at 67 celcius, at the moment i speak, i hell NOT try lfs, i have my homework near the laptop...


:ices_rofl

Only 67c ehh:really: It's all worked out nicely then. :scratchch:razz:

This thread has been the biggest waste of time in this forum in the 7 months I have been frequenting it.

Go and do your homework. Hopefully it will teach you how to construct a sentence that makes sense.
At the very least it will keep you away from your poor laptop.
(You don't know how much it hurts me to see perfectly good computer equipment treated in the way you have done. ;) )

@Toki
I hope you are not seriously taking any advice from Hurjun. He really doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

@Jakg
I'm delighted to hear you have a new best friend. I hope you will be very happy together:D


Great sig by the way Harjun.:thumb:

[Jakg]

Welcome to Britains top school...

EDIT - I've got a much better friend, but her pictures to risqué for the LFS Forum :P

[The Moose]

EDIT - I've got a much better friend, but her pictures to risqué for the LFS Forum :P

O RLY?:scratchch

[harjun]

please let me proove to you that i am good :(

[mcintyrej]

please let me proove to you that i am good :(

To be good, you first need to spell my name right,

mcintyrej. Call me Jack.

Secondly,

Don't overclock. To be honest, after this i'm suprised you even want to overclock something like a Core2Duo, I know you'll disregard this message. But just take it somewhere else.

@Moose - Watch what you say now. Or you'll be on that list too! *slams head on desk*.

[Mikkel Petersen]

please let me proove to you that i am good :(
way too late.

[harjun]

To be good, you first need to spell my name right,

mcintyrej. Call me Jack.

Secondly,

Don't overclock. To be honest, after this i'm suprised you even want to overclock something like a Core2Duo, I know you'll disregard this message. But just take it somewhere else.
i will listen to you, sorry for your name :)

[Töki (HUN)]

WTF? Stop doing this with Harjun! OK, he does something some of you don't like...AND? Why the hell do you have to do this?
:banghead:

[harjun]

WTF? Stop doing this with Harjun! OK, he does something some of you don't like...AND? Why the hell do you have to do this?
:banghead:
it's alright, ignore them if it bothers you...you don't have to listen to me if you don't want to, because they might start flaming you for....anything....

But, i suggest just leave it, nothings wrong with 40fps, although some of the interesting people in www.lfsforum.net (http://www.lfsforum.net) (credits to Victor Van Vlardingen, and the other develepors) believe that it looks like a slideshow, you're laptop should be able to pull way more, mine does 70, and it is believed by some of the people here, to be a crap laptop, which has had much abuse by its STUPID owner....but, :shrug: thats their opinion. If it doesn't work, nothing i can do, i'm no genious, im stupid.

[Töki (HUN)]

I don't care what other people say! I trust you, and know you're reliable. That's why I asked for your help. I would like you to help me reach 60-70 FPS with your methods.
I'm not interested in other's flaming what I hate reading.

So I just wanted your help, but these guys here ruined it, thanks guys!:thumbsdow

[DieKolkrabe]

Harjun, that's the ONE intelligent thing you've said in the whole damn thread.

'Im stupid' Yep. I'd agree with that (as would the majority of posters. Lemme ask 'em). You're 14, right? Stop trying to impress your mates. It's not working

DK

[Jakg]

I don't care what other people say! I trust you, and know you're reliable. That's why I asked for your help. I would like you to help me reach 60-70 FPS with your methods.
I'm not interested in other's flaming what I hate reading.

So I just wanted your help, but these guys here ruined it, thanks guys!:thumbsdowThats the thing - were flaming because a 20% clock speed increase CAN NOT equal an 80% FPS increase :shrug:

[zeugnimod]

The General Lee is my best friend, and Jakg!, and the best mcintyrej. Please give me time to proove myself

Did you read his sig? :D

[DieKolkrabe]

*bangs head on desK* I can feel my brain drifting away now...

Why do we have to put up with such incompetent n00bs who harrass people every time they want to know something? (And I don't mean the 99.99999% of forum users. That above Q was directed at Harjun)

DK

[harjun]

ok Toki...i see you have a core2duo...well, i'll tell you my stuff...you can listen if you want...but, you can listen to the "experts out there"...as i'm stupid, you can add me on msn

drifter_p@hotmail.co.uk

i hope i can help you before someone finds fault in nme....and this thread gets closed

Thank you Toki...i appreciate your kindness :)

[ajp71]

im stupid.

I trust you, and know you're reliable. That's why I asked for your help.

:doh:

[harjun]

:doh:
im just trying to please you guys by saying im stupid...

[Töki (HUN)]

OK guys! If you don't like what we do, do NOT post here your " Damn guys you are crazy "

Thanks in advance, bah

Harjun - I added you on MSN

[ajp71]

OK guys! If you don't like what we do, do NOT post here your " Damn guys you are crazy "

Thanks in advance, bah

Harjun - I added you on MSN

In all seriousness though do not take any advice on overclocking your laptop from Harjun, as has been demonstrated in this thread he has absolutely no clue what he's on about and spouts out bullshit about his performance gains. I'm actually getting seriously worried that you might be taking advice from Harjun :schwitz:

[(-Mark-)]

expect another one of these threads if Toki listens to Harjun on overclocking

[harjun]

ok...everyone expect my bullshit...toki don't listen to me, i'm a lier, im stupid expect everything negative you can think of from me :(

[Töki (HUN)]

What the hell?
Harjun! Your method works isn't it? No harmful effects on laptop? ( ok, a bit overheating )

[harjun]

ill speak to you on msn, and you can follow my stupid advice if you want....or you can believe the more "cleverer" Geniasses out there

[Töki (HUN)]

Alright :)

[Mikkel Petersen]

I don't care what other people say! I trust you, and know you're reliable. That's why I asked for your help. I would like you to help me reach 60-70 FPS with your methods.
I'm not interested in other's flaming what I hate reading.

So I just wanted your help, but these guys here ruined it, thanks guys!:thumbsdow
http://www.lfsforum.net/search.php?searchid=1380680
read through all of his posts in the computer systems category and tell me if you still think he is reliable? :really:

[Töki (HUN)]

Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms. :thumb:

[Mikkel Petersen]

Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms. :thumb:
I don't get that, but well, read these threads instead. :shrug: it's only to help you I do this, and not to bring harjun down.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=30568
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=28568
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=29063

[Thunderhead]

This thread: EPIC FAILURE. EPIC.

I never laughed so much in my entire life. Never. EPIC!

[Töki (HUN)]

I don't get that, but well, read these threads instead. :shrug: it's only to help you I do this, and not to bring harjun down.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=30568
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=28568
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=29063

Awww, weird! What will happen to my brand new laptop? Explodes?:schwitz:OK I decided not to do this, I will play LFS with 30-40 FPS
That's very risky

[sam93]

So harjun where are the pics of your new pc case and your Power supply what has a FAN(Sarcastic)

[the e rocker]

i'm no genious, im stupid.

My signature has been sitting there unused, couldn't let it go to waste...

[The General Lee]

Toki, please read the name of this thread, Harjun's laptop in "in disaster" after he overclocked it.

[danowat]

NEWS JUST IN........

Harjun strikes again.........

[DieKolkrabe]

O_O

Did he...

[Jakg]

NEWS JUST IN........

Harjun strikes again.........You know your a geek when:

You get this. And find it funny. So funny, in fact, that you burst out laughing in the middle of an IT Lesson :X

[Töki (HUN)]

Alright all!
I've read Mikkel Petersen's 3 posted links, and I realized that Harjun doesn't really know what he does...Sorry to say but, everything is written down in that 3 threads... He asks what and how to do. If there's no answer, he asks it again and again. And he's just 14.
Once he wrote that he doesn't care if his laptop overheats...He'll buy an other one...OK, but I'm not a millionaire, I've no money to " Just buy another one "
I was working on the whole summer in order to buy this laptop. This year I'll hopefully pass my final exam and I will go to university. That's the reason I bought it. Easy to carry, you can use it wherever you want. I didn't bought it for LFS at all, I just wanted to get good FPS ingame. That's it... I won't try overclocking it, I promise.

Harjun, if you wonder why are people so "rude" to you, please read over that 3 threads you opened... You will realise why I decided as I did. I know you're angry now, but I don't want to make any damages in my brand new laptop.
:schwitz:

[dropin_biking]

^Weeerd, welcome to the good side. But in all seriousness, why even go through the bother with overclocking a laptop. The performance gain doesn't really justify all the work needed to keep it from overheating, or giving boot errors, or artifacting. Desktop PC's FTW!
~Bryan~
PS, I also LOL'd and danowat's post...then frowned when I realized if I found that funny, I need to get laid...
~Bryan~

[danowat]

HEY, I found it funny, and I get laid regularly :)

[Jakg]

The performance gain doesn't really justify all the work needed to keep it from overheating, or giving boot errors, or artifacting. Desktop PC's FTW!*cough* 40% overclock

*cough* 30% overclock on a Quad

Worth it? Yes

Worth it on a laptop? no

[Mikkel Petersen]

Alright all!
I've read Mikkel Petersen's 3 posted links, and I realized that Harjun doesn't really know what he does...Sorry to say but, everything is written down in that 3 threads... He asks what and how to do. If there's no answer, he asks it again and again. And he's just 14.
Once he wrote that he doesn't care if his laptop overheats...He'll buy an other one...OK, but I'm not a millionaire, I've no money to " Just buy another one "
I was working on the whole summer in order to buy this laptop. This year I'll hopefully pass my final exam and I will go to university. That's the reason I bought it. Easy to carry, you can use it wherever you want. I didn't bought it for LFS at all, I just wanted to get good FPS ingame. That's it... I won't try overclocking it, I promise.

Harjun, if you wonder why are people so "rude" to you, please read over that 3 threads you opened... You will realise why I decided as I did. I know you're angry now, but I don't want to make any damages in my brand new laptop.
:schwitz:
glad I made you realise that there was a reason why we told you not to follow harjun's advice. :)
have a nice day mate. :tilt:
NEWS JUST IN........

Harjun strikes again.........
please tell me that's not a picture of harjun's motherboard .. :/

[Töki (HUN)]

:) and what's that white thing on it?

[Blackout]

:) and what's that white thing on it?

On that picture? It's thermal paste which someone put under the processor and not on it. I think.

[Töki (HUN)]

Ohh, I see, thanks

[The Moose]

Harjun, if you wonder why are people so "rude" to you, please read over that 3 threads you opened.

Nice to see you took our advice Toki.

I don't think any of us wanted to be rude or offend Harjun in any way.
It was more a case of firmly stating the case that he shouldn't attempt certain things with a laptop.

This thread (and the others) all got a bit out of hand on the pisstaking because he just wouldn't listen to the advice of people who know what they are talking about.

I feel a bit sorry for Harjun because it did seem a bit out of order the way some of us spoke to him. He is only 14 and i felt a bit cruel talking to him the way i did.
Having said that he has on so many occasions asked for advice, only to completely ignore it or obviously not read it at all that he certainly deserved some of what he got.


@Harjun. I doubt you are 'stupid' just as none of us are 'geniuses' (someone's bound to claim they are...my moneys on Jakg :p ) . Sometimes you just have to listen to what people who are more knowledgeable on a certain subject are saying to you.
You definitely have to stop making stuff up (overclocking a 100MHz chip to 900MHz for example) as you will get caught out every time. That is the start of no one taking you seriously. Why should people bother to help you if you just lie about stuff?

I hope you don't feel to bad about the way people have treated you in this thread, but you must realise that you brought it upon yourself.

Patronising lecture over ;)

Thanks for keeping us amused for so long though:D

[DieKolkrabe]

Nice to see you took our advice Toki.

I don't think any of us wanted to be rude or offend Harjun in any way.
It was more a case of firmly stating the case that he shouldn't attempt certain things with a laptop.

This thread (and the others) all got a bit out of hand on the pisstaking because he just wouldn't listen to the advice of people who know what they are talking about.

I feel a bit sorry for Harjun because it did seem a bit out of order the way some of us spoke to him. He is only 14 and i felt a bit cruel talking to him the way i did.
Having said that he has on so many occasions asked for advice, only to completely ignore it or obviously not read it at all that he certainly deserved some of what he got.


@Harjun. I doubt you are 'stupid' just as none of us are 'geniuses' (someone's bound to claim they are...my moneys on Jakg :p ) . Sometimes you just have to listen to what people who are more knowledgeable on a certain subject are saying to you.
You definitely have to stop making stuff up (overclocking a 100MHz chip to 900MHz for example) as you will get caught out every time. That is the start of no one taking you seriously. Why should people bother to help you if you just lie about stuff?

I hope you don't feel to bad about the way people have treated you in this thread, but you must realise that you brought it upon yourself.

Patronising lecture over ;)

Thanks for keeping us amused for so long though:D

Well said. A big +1 to that

Also, Harjun. Just because you have somebody's MSN does not give you the right to go harrassing people

DK

[harjun]

thank you for your kind words moose, i will stop my lying and everything, i really thank you, it's alright for everything, you don't have to apoligise :)....oh yeh, i just blocked you mr DieKolkRabe....not to be rude....but, i really don't need your non helpng....nonsense

[harjun]

also....think what you want about that guys picture, and believe me if you want, i'll just tell the truth and say it's not mine....and i don't put....chairlegs, or whatever that is sticking out of there on my cpus...

also, my sister had an old dell laptop, which has a P4 processorr in, of which i believe one of the only type of laptop which has P4 in, they stopped making them (overheated too much)...and it's really cool, it never worked, never switched on...so, it was just lying there, and the temptation overtook me...so i opened it all up, and its cool!, it has its own little IHS (mini one), with a little cute fan on the top. Also, the P4 is quite big i thought to fit in that laptop, the core (i'm not sure what it's called, the big silver bit), was the whole processor, on mine its just some little 1cm silver bit....but could i put that on MY laptop?...because it has all the same amount of pins, and in the same layout...:) i was just wondering, and, it probably wouldn't be much faster than my Turion, but as you guys will say no, ill leave it :)

SOrry Toki, i told you no i wouldn't help....because i didn't want to ruin your laptop

[Jakg]

also....think what you want about that guys picture, and believe me if you want, i'll just tell the truth and say it's not mine....and i don't put....chairlegs, or whatever that is sticking out of there on my cpus...They're called pins.

:x

[sam93]

also....think what you want about that guys picture, and believe me if you want, i'll just tell the truth and say it's not mine....and i don't put....chairlegs, or whatever that is sticking out of there on my cpus...

also, my sister had an old dell laptop, which has a P4 processorr in, of which i believe one of the only type of laptop which has P4 in, they stopped making them (overheated too much)...and it's really cool, it never worked, never switched on...so, it was just lying there, and the temptation overtook me...so i opened it all up, and its cool!, it has its own little IHS (mini one), with a little cute fan on the top. Also, the P4 is quite big i thought to fit in that laptop, the core (i'm not sure what it's called, the big silver bit), was the whole processor, on mine its just some little 1cm silver bit....but could i put that on MY laptop?...because it has all the same amount of pins, and in the same layout...:) i was just wondering, and, it probably wouldn't be much faster than my Turion, but as you guys will say no, ill leave it :)

SOrry Toki, i told you no i wouldn't help....because i didn't want to ruin your laptop

You are still messing around with the insides of computers, can i just give you a little bit of advice, go on the internet and do some research on computers and how to work and what componants are what. Researching is better then messing around with the inside of a pc and messing it up, as we have already discovered you havent a clue about computers so please just follow my advice and do some research dont follow it if you dont want to but it will save you well your parents some money.

[Origamiboy]

also....think what you want about that guys picture, and believe me if you want, i'll just tell the truth and say it's not mine....and i don't put....chairlegs, or whatever that is sticking out of there on my cpus...



Er, Harjun. Thats the clamp that holds the processor down...

Look out! Its the biggest PC in the world! :doh:

[rc10racer]

Jesus harjun just leave pc/laptop mods to people who know what they are going.

As for trying to fit the p4 into a socket A (i think, not to sure) don't even try it, all processors have different type of mobo configurations so does not matter if it has the same pins etc etc just leave it at that.

[GFresh]

NEWS JUST IN........

Harjun strikes again.........



Although quite hilarious when read in context with this thread, that picture would be a normal sight for someone who is phasechange cooling their cpu. Non-conductive paste around the pins and other components underneath the cpu is a must to stop condensation damaging them.
I assume some people will know this, but i'm just clearing it up for others. :)

[Jakg]

Although quite hilarious when read in context with this thread, that picture would be a normal sight for someone who is phasechange cooling their cpu. Non-conductive paste around the pins and other components underneath the cpu is a must to stop condensation damaging them.
I assume some people will know this, but i'm just clearing it up for others. :)They put it UNDER the CPU? I thought they just put it around the socket...?

[GFresh]

Yep, condensation build's EVERYWHERE when subjecting the die to sub-zero temperatures, so everything needs covering, and insulating with foam.