LX8? canned?

[XCNuse]

I don't think the rallypack was actually 'canned', or at least by no means like the LX8 was, the LX8 was actually made, worked etc. It was just canned because of its extremities.

Rallypack Scavier stated would be made if they had time etc. (I believe), if not it was something along those lines, Scawen (or was it Victor?) kinda hinted at one, but nothing was official about actually making one 100%, they just made it sound like a little fun side thing they could've done just to keep stuff moving along.

Change of pace is always nice, hence why I never really finish many 3d models just because after a while it's the same tedius work over and over again.

[The Very End]

Yes, Advanced Search. :nod:

Thank you :)

For you information I had "only" mentioned Rallypack / Rally Pack around 30+ times :shy:

I don't think the rallypack was actually 'canned', or at least by no means like the LX8 was, the LX8 was actually made, worked etc. It was just canned because of its extremities.

Rallypack Scavier stated would be made if they had time etc. (I believe), if not it was something along those lines, Scawen (or was it Victor?) kinda hinted at one, but nothing was official about actually making one 100%, they just made it sound like a little fun side thing they could've done just to keep stuff moving along.

Change of pace is always nice, hence why I never really finish many 3d models just because after a while it's the same tedius work over and over again.

Well put.

I think that the LX8 would be a hard, but fun car to race now. Sure, even with the physics updates it would be hard to controll, but at same time I would love to see such a car in the game, a real beast! I feel that there are no beats in LFS anymore, the LX6 is challenging enough with a hard setup, but that "beast" feeling is long gone.

Well, we'll see what comes with time, but I rest my case, the LX8 could prove some really intereting racing, and I am sure most people would apreciate it. Even tho we probally would get topics where whiners would scream and shout because the beast was not easy to handle, I think that is something we could handle.

Or?

[Shadowww]

Rallypack!?!?!??!That would be awesome.

[MadCat360]

Forget the LX8, lets get an Ariel Atom 500 V8 (http://www.arielatom.com/specs/atom-500-v8).

500 horsepower and 500 kilos! That's 100KG (220lb) LESS than an F1 car!

[NightShift]

Forget the LX8, lets get an Ariel Atom 500 V8 (http://www.arielatom.com/specs/atom-500-v8).

You'll have it as soon as the ariel guys crawl up to Scawen's door and kindly offer to pay to have it included ;)

[hazaky]

chin chaw: I edited your signature because it violates the LFS Forum Agreement (part 3).
If you want to change it to another, you can do so, but please keep it within the forum rules. :thumbsup:
Hacker or Moderator behind the scenes? wut?

Thank god i didnt see that link ...

[Shadowww]

Hacker or Moderator behind the scenes? wut?

Thank god i didnt see that link ...Uh, that was in year 2005. Maybe he was moderator, but then he got his status removed.

[NotAnIllusion]

He retired, nothing sinister or dramatic at work here ;)

[Bob Smith]

Yes, we've had a few of moderators become inactive, although most still have their priveledges here.

[XCNuse]

Yes, we've had a few of moderators become inactive, although most still have their priveledges here.
ahem.... shhhhhhh! :slap:

as for that Atom V8, I think it's safe to say that is no racing vehicle at all.. that thing is going to be a murderer, the stats on it are freaking insane.

[J@tko]

they will land at the same point
Erm :really:

Firstly the BMW will go lower and then land first, shorter than the caterham...?

EDIT: Missed a page :/

[george_tsiros]

the bmw will go lower? why?

[J@tko]

the bmw will go lower? why?

I failed. Ignore me :doh: God I'm going to do well in AS Physics.... :S

Of course, everything accelerates at the same rate due to gravity :doh:

[The Very End]

ahem.... shhhhhhh! :slap:

as for that Atom V8, I think it's safe to say that is no racing vehicle at all.. that thing is going to be a murderer, the stats on it are freaking insane.

Even so, wouldn't you love to have a "beast" car within LFS, a car that really needs to be tamed to be able to drive propperly? :)

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

Yes.

Even a turbo version of the regular FZ5 would be spiffy. Maybe 550HP or so.

[XCNuse]

imo we need a big block heavy muscle car I think before anything else, all the cars in LFS are to similar.

The only heavy and not so nimble car we have is the FZ50, but even then it still fits in with the others, we need some old chevy or something.

[BlueFlame]

Muscle cars are bad around tracks tho, and that is all LFS simulates really, if it's a muscle car, it should be a drag car.

[G!NhO]

Yes, and no.

It would be very fun to drive a very wobbly muscle car, no setup options at all except for tyre pressure. :)

[Scrabby]

I haz LX8

[XCNuse]

Muscle cars are bad around tracks tho,
Exxxxacctly :thumb:

I just think we need severely different handling cars, kinda like when the MRT was dropped in LFS it was totally different, the LXs are totally different, but all the middle cars are just.. typical not bad handling cars, they can take a beating and are slow enough you can recover quite easily.

[Leofred2000]

I want to try out LX8. How can I try it? Download S1 demo? Will I be able to try the LX8 in demo? Where can I download S1 original?

[DevilDare]

Yes. It is canned.

The LX8 was not in any public version. It was in one of the "beta" testing versions, early S1 days I believe.

I think thats right. Dont take my word for it. Dont know the exact details.

You can download the version the car was in, but you cannot unlock it.

[jaxx751]

yep, gone along with the rally pack.

[Stefani24]

Yes. It is canned.

The LX8 was not in any public version. It was in one of the "beta" testing versions, early S1 days I believe.

I think thats right. Dont take my word for it. Dont know the exact details.

You can download the version the car was in, but you cannot unlock it.

I believe it was in the early s2 days, where s2 was something like pre-alpha.

[dadge]

I believe it was in the early s2 days, where s2 was something like pre-alpha.that'll be S1 :)

[Leofred2000]

Look at this:
LX8 @ Youtube.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDuhf03XdDA)

I want to try the LX8 or even more accurate, I'm going to try the LX8, but I need help with what I should do. Even if I need to buy myself a S1-lisence.

Pleeeaaaase help me :bowdown: :bowdown:

[BlueFlame]

Yes. It is canned.

The LX8 was not in any public version. It was in one of the "beta" testing versions, early S1 days I believe.

I think thats right. Dont take my word for it. Dont know the exact details.

You can download the version the car was in, but you cannot unlock it.
You can unlock it. You are mis-informed. The version with the LX8 in works perfectly. 0.5F is the version you need to find. You can unlock it though, I did, I just used my current username and password and it unlocked all cars as normal.

[Leofred2000]

You can unlock it. You are mis-informed. The version with the LX8 in works perfectly. 0.5F is the version you need to find. You can unlock it though, I did, I just used my current username and password and it unlocked all cars as normal.

Cant unlock it. "Cant connect to master server"
What can I do??

[Byku]

Find... :x... yeah.. that's what You should find...

[Fire_optikz001]

Cant unlock it. "Cant connect to master server"
What can I do??

you get this message because the master servers ip has changed since then

[Leofred2000]

I have found the S2 0.5F verson, and the LX8 is there, but only in "license mode" not demo. I cant activate my license because "Cannot connect to master server".

Can I modify something in the LFS-folders directory to make it see my license without connecting to master server??

[Leofred2000]

you get this message because the master servers ip has changed since then

How can I change the master servers ip in 0.5F so it will connect to the right ip?

[logitekg25]

interested ;)

[Degats]

Yes. It is canned.

Not necessarily - It was replaced for S2 by the UFR, as the LX8 and XFR would be alone in their own classes. (See here) (http://www.lfs.net/?page=s2progress_3)

This doesn't mean it won't make an appearance in S3 at some point.

[matijapkc]

How can I change the master servers ip in 0.5F so it will connect to the right ip?

You can only crack that version to play it full...

[rockclan]

you can only crack that version to play it full...

DO NOT USE THAT WORD!



You are on the public and official forums of this game, don't talk about cracks please.

[Ripley]

...Even if I need to buy myself a S1-lisence
?? You are already S2...

[nikopdr]

You can only crack that version to play it full...not everything needs to be cracked.

IIRC, the master server IP is coded to lfs.exe, and i think it can be edited via something, hex edit or any else.

[Greboth]

DO NOT USE THAT WORD!

You are on the public and official forums of this game, don't talk about cracks please.

Errr why? While I agree that cracks for lfs should not be really mentioned, if you have already bought a licence there I don't see what the problem is. I remember admiting on here that I cracked lfs to play single player at uni because the uni pc's wouldn't connect to the master server to unlock (before anyone asks, I was already licenced at the time)

[Leofred2000]

Yea, agree there. I dont mind on how I can make it work, as long as it does.
If I can change the ip so it can connect or manipulate some files in the directory so it will be opened, it doesnt matter. But it would maybe be easier to change some ip, right...?

PM me for suggestions on how I can make it work, if this can cause disturbences on the forum.

[Timo1992]

I also tried the LX8 some month ago with that 0,5f version, ofc it was cracked but i dont know whats so special about this, i mean i didnt drive online (also not possible) :shrug:

[JazzOn]

LX6 + more hp = LX8 ?

Tweak?

[Leofred2000]

Tweak is cheating. I want to try the original LX8.

[JazzOn]

...by "cracking" it?!

What i actually meant was, that there is no difference between them, but hp, right?

[Whiskey]

LX8 has slick tyres, more BHP, and the more important thing: 2 exhausts :D

[DevilDare]

You can unlock it. You are mis-informed. The version with the LX8 in works perfectly. 0.5F is the version you need to find. You can unlock it though, I did, I just used my current username and password and it unlocked all cars as normal.

Are you sure? :really:

Pretty sure you cannot unlock it legally like you do with newest version.

[The Very End]

The LX8 were in a limited version IIRC. Some special users / beta users were aviable to use it. But for the most people - it was not possible to use.

[Lible]

If you can't unlock it it's probably because the IP has changed.

[Scrabby]

i Drove it, it sux

[DevilDare]

Indeed.

When I tried it I couldnt keep it in a straight line. Way too much power with too little grip. The thing is still doing a burnout in 3rd/4th gear off the line. :D

[Leofred2000]

If you can't unlock it it's probably because the IP has changed.


Most likely, but that must gonna change some how...

[Leofred2000]

i Drove it, it sux
Indeed.

That says more about you than the car, I think...
But it wont make me want to try it any less.

[mxpxun]

yeah thats right i drove it and i filmed it http://www.videogaga.lt/video?id=oaedjrubuoiaipajg

its a beast and there is no way to control it.

it drives like a powerful RWD car with summer tyres on icy road. u step on the pedal and than u spin

[DevilDare]

Well it does. It might do anyway.

As I said, to me it seemed kinda stupid. Way too much power for such small car with barely any grip.

I did not find it fun. But like you said, it might be just me.

I think it was Bob Smith who said "A car can never be overpowered, only under controlled" or something along these lines. :thumb:

[BlueFlame]

Are you sure? :really:

Pretty sure you cannot unlock it legally like you do with newest version.
I remember myself, unlocking it with my lfsusename.

[shaun463]

That must have been a while ago as they changed the way LFS unlocks. 0.5F can't unlock legally now. You used to be able to though. Same reason S1 (not the licence, the full game) was still active and popular.

[Leofred2000]

So how can I unlock it?

[matijapkc]

So how can I unlock it?

You can only *** (forbiden word) it. :tilt:

[Timo1992]

You need to have the 0,5F version and the 'cookie', Leofred :tilt:

D0nt know if I was allowed to say that here.

[Scrabby]

Imo, i thought there was something really simpel to unlock it. Not a crack!
Hmmmm..

[Alec01]

You will need to cheat either way to use the LX8 and it is a PANTS car!

Just use tweak in single player mode and give the LX6 a V8 and AWD. Engine noises are much better in the later version of LFS.

Dont think tweak is illegal is it? It only works in single player mode

[5tag]

You will need to cheat either way to use the LX8 and it is a PANTS car!

Just use tweak in single player mode and give the LX6 a V8 and AWD. Engine noises are much better in the later version of LFS.

Dont think tweak is illegal is it? It only works in single player mode


You can't make it have a V8 and why would you use AWD?! Moreso the LX8 GTR featured wider tyres than the LX6 plus they were slicks.

[Alec01]

You can't make it have a V8 and why would you use AWD?! Moreso the LX8 GTR featured wider tyres than the LX6 plus they were slicks.

In the previous S2 patch or the one before it there is a tweak available to have either inline, flat, or V configurations, also options to add turbos and change turbo pressure. The same tweak also gives the option to use the slick tyres.

I use AWD sometmes on the LX6 because if you set the differentials up right it is a very fast car and alot of fun. Down to personal preference I guess.

[5tag]

In the previous S2 patch or the one before it there is a tweak available to have either inline, flat, or V configurations, also options to add turbos and change turbo pressure. The same tweak also gives the option to use the slick tyres.

But that was not possible for LX cars as far as I know.

[Alec01]

But that was not possible for LX cars as far as I know.

All cars, including demo cars. But you have to modify the demo cars differently :)

Also I dont think the slick tyres could be applied to demo cars, but that doesnt bother me. I use Z28 now anyway so these mods are not available as of yet I dont think

[G!NhO]

All cars, including demo cars. But you have to modify the demo cars differently :)

Also I dont think the slick tyres could be applied to demo cars, but that doesnt bother me. I use Z28 now anyway so these mods are not available as of yet I dont think

You could only apply turbo's and other engine configurations to the demo cars.

[Alec01]

You could only apply turbo's and other engine configurations to the demo cars.

Not true mate, i'll try and dig out the info on what tweaks I used. At one point I was using two different tweaks together but I cant remember what ones they were. I have quite a few on the pc so I will find out.

One was a very simple tweak with pre-made options and was mostly automated etc and the other was more crude that looked like it was made in excel or something. I stumbled across the options completely by accident

[5tag]

Wow... Road cars on slicks... that'd be interesting. Is there any chance you could forward me to that tweak? I have never had one that would let you change tyres or engine layout other than for the demo cars.

[Alec01]

Wow... Road cars on slicks... that'd be interesting. Is there any chance you could forward me to that tweak? I have never had one that would let you change tyres or engine layout other than for the demo cars.

You will need to use an older version of S2. I have 100% definately used all road cars with slicks but it was only possible by using two different tweaks at the same time.

I will try and find out what tweaks I used, as I say, I dont use them anymore due to using Z28.

EDIT: can anyone tell me if talking about tweaks etc is "illegal" on this forum? If they are I do not wish to get into trouble and will delete any mention of them from my posts.

[J@tko]

I remember for patch Y there was slickmod which I used in conjunction with tweak. It even worked sometimes for Z, but now it doesn't :(

[5tag]

You will need to use an older version of S2. I have 100% definately used all road cars with slicks but it was only possible by using two different tweaks at the same time.

I will try and find out what tweaks I used, as I say, I dont use them anymore due to using Z28.

EDIT: can anyone tell me if talking about tweaks etc is "illegal" on this forum? If they are I do not wish to get into trouble and will delete any mention of them from my posts.

Thank you and no, it's not forbidden.

[Alec01]

Thank you and no, it's not forbidden.

K cool, I have just looked through my LFS stuff on this computer and cannot find the program I used, but will check my other pc's and external hdd's.

The program I used looked like LFSTune and it had a slick mod built into it right at the bottom of the car type list on the top right hand side.

[Timo1992]

Here is da beast :D (hope it is not forbidden to post screenshots of the lx8, otherwise a moderator can delete it)

http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/1495/lx8gtrcrack.jpg

[G!NhO]

Wow... Road cars on slicks... that'd be interesting. Is there any chance you could forward me to that tweak? I have never had one that would let you change tyres or engine layout other than for the demo cars.

You can use slickmod patch Y because it is compatible with the older Z version like Z25 if i am right.

[imthebestracerthereis]

DAT IMG

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4250/screenshot20100321at113.png

[5tag]

...


Now what is the artist trying to tell us?

[UnknownMaster21]

Yeah! :thumbsup:

[rockclan]

I actually managed to drive a whole lap with the thing without spinning :smileypul

[zeugnimod]

Now what is the artist trying to tell us?

That he got an infraction for posting LX8 screenshots, I guess.

[-NightFly-]

so lx8 was illegal from the beginning?

[5tag]

That he got an infraction for posting LX8 screenshots, I guess.


Wow! :smileypul

[loopingz]

LX6 with the old physic engine was a pain. I guess LX8 should be worse.
But it would be interesting to see what it does with slick in the actual version which is nearly impossible I imagine.

[Mille Sabords]

It is (was) possible to do something like that in Z, I remember Troy and the Concept Racing guys setting up a weekly meeting with a tweaked LX6 (slicks, some more power) - driveable but quite a handful...
All the information and links are buried in the forums somewhere, one only needs a good spade ;)

[NightShift]

I remember Troy and the Concept Racing guys setting up a weekly meeting with a tweaked LX6 (slicks, some more power) - driveable but quite a handful...

Yup it was called LX75. I did try it offline for my own enjoyment and off my vague recollection it had over 300 bhp. Not sure about the slicks though.

[ACCAkut]

Kegetys' Slickmod stopped working after the last patch, but there are several tweak programs still useable (but none mods stuff apart from the engine and drivetrain).
The streetcars on Race tires have a tendency to role over, almost as bad as the UFR :schwitz:

[zeugnimod]

so lx8 was illegal from the beginning?

It was never in an officially released version, AFAIK. :shrug:

[5tag]

It was never in an officially released version, AFAIK. :shrug:

Though I'd not say it is illegal. It contains no modifications to the game thus being of no damage to the developers. I am pretty sure if it really was not allowed to be talked about or to be shown on screenshots at least the pictures or even the whole thread would have been deleted/locked.

[J@tko]

I think it's "illegal" in the fact that it should never have been released? :shrug:

[War]

Well i think LX8 is a good idea. Would be simple do to. Tweak the engine, add a rollcage and a race interior(like on the XRR and XFR). But when they say its impossible to handle, then why not a 4WD conversion like the FXR has. Just my few ideas.

[tonyonparas]

Yea, wht don´t we make it FWD and ruin it for good! :thumbsup:

No, really, if it´s ever appearing in this sim, it must be just as crazy and awful, as it originally was. We get to play with all kinds of electronic aids with the scirocco, so LX8 would balance it out pretty well. :smileypul

[brt900]

this car is a beast drove it a few months ago i really hope they reintroduce it

[logitekg25]

so it was in a test patch, so its basically done...why dont they just finish the tiny bit that needs to be done, and release it :shrug:

[brt900]

because since then there has been a major physics update

[logitekg25]

wait quick question....do all the cars automatically have the new feel...or do the devs have to re-modify everything?

as inif we get a major physics update and the devs just leave some cars with all their previous code, will they have the update or no?

[Rappa Z]

Coding new tyre physics should apply to all cars that have tyres, correct me if I'm wrong.

[logitekg25]

thats what i was thinking...so if thats true, then whats the harm in just adding the lx8 into the list of cars :shrug:

[Silverracer]

thats what i was thinking...so if thats true, then whats the harm in just adding the lx8 into the list of cars :shrug:


License
We realised that at some point we need to move onto the S3 license and it would be better for the community to be able to start using S3 content sooner rather than later. The current plan is to also include another car in the initial content of the S3 license.

Maybe its the other car (:

[JazzOn]

.. then whats the harm in just adding the lx8 into the list of cars :shrug:

I guess they just say fk-it - they moan too much. But seriously, the LX6 isn't really the favorite car around, because it's already extremely hard to keep straight (for most people anyways)
On the other hand, maybe it is on the list.. who knows ;) (i hope thats not the new car because that would be a dissapointment - Twaek+LX6=LX8)

[Timo1992]

At least it wasnt possible to drive the Lx8 with the old patch 0,5f.. so I dont think they will bring it back:schwitz:

[G!NhO]

I love the lx6 and i would love a V8 version even more.

[hp999]

I love the lx6 and i would love a V8 version even more.


+1.:nod:

Too bad that there aren't any LX cups running at the moment.

[Silverracer]

+1.:nod:

Too bad that there aren't any LX cups running at the moment.
International LX Endurance League (by GTS Motorsport) (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=66443)

[PoVo]

Ah, I can imagine the LX8 would be such a beast : O

[TehPaws3D]

Coding new tyre physics should apply to all cars that have tyres, correct me if I'm wrong.


I really wish they would recode the physics in my shoes, So painful! I mean rubber is rubber right? Devs? Help...

[narkoze]

I dont get why they removed it. Its not bad to have more cars.

[theirishnoob]

I dont get why they removed it. Its not bad to have more cars.

it is when nobody can drive the low version ( lx4 ) correctly !

[91mason91]

I really wish they would recode the physics in my shoes, So painful! I mean rubber is rubber right? Devs? Help...

You always seem to like having a go at somebody no matter where you go mmk?

[Breizh]

That's a joke... I say, that's a joke, son.

[The Very End]

it is when nobody can drive the low version ( lx4 ) correctly !

The right leagues and drivers provide a lot of fun in the LX cars. The LX8 would be great fun. Now, with the physics that are to come I hope the devs reconsider and release the LX8, I don't really understand the argument that it's too hard to drive..

I guess it's a excuse for something else, but it's more easy to blame others :)

[PoVo]

it is when nobody can drive the low version ( lx4 ) correctly !

Does drifting properly count as driving correctly?

[G!NhO]

No.

[Bose321]

Does drifting properly count as driving correctly?
Yes.

[TehPaws3D]

No.

That's like saying people who walk with a spring in their step are not walking properly, Drifting is a way to drive allowing the back end to slide, Just like racing is about getting the fastest laptime, They shoot for style, Not WRs.

[G!NhO]

That's like saying people who walk with a spring in their step are not walking properly, Drifting is a way to drive allowing the back end to slide, Just like racing is about getting the fastest laptime, They shoot for style, Not WRs.

I have no idea what you are trying to prove.
but Drifting =/= Driving correctly.

[BOSCHO]

The first post was made 14th August 2005 :schwitz: what a bump!

[Mr_Lonely]

Drifting = Driving correctly,, with style.. :smileypul

[troy]

Damn I still am subscribed to this thread, stop bumping it my heart is racing every time I see the LX8 on top of my subscription list. :weeping:

[der butz]

Damn I still am subscribed to this thread, stop bumping it my heart is racing every time I see the LX8 on top of my subscription list. :weeping:


... Listen to the man! He might be the only racer who drives this car properly, and quicker than 99,9%.

I can't even drive the lx4, I take the lx6 for a ride every year because it has the best sounding engine by far (in lfs) and I would shreddddd the lx8's tyres to bits in 1 or 2 carefully driven corners.

greetz

der bumpybutz

[jrs_4500]

It really is for me. Keyboard is physically impossible, and my MOMO wheel (I don't know if it wasn't set up correctly with the game or what) the slightest throttle movement would send the car spinning even if you're trying to go in a straight line or driving conservatively. Of course, that was only a test patch.

[QUOTE=The Very End;1490540]I don't really understand the argument that it's too hard to drive..

[The Very End]

It really is for me. Keyboard is physically impossible, and my MOMO wheel (I don't know if it wasn't set up correctly with the game or what) the slightest throttle movement would send the car spinning even if you're trying to go in a straight line or driving conservatively. Of course, that was only a test patch.

[QUOTE=The Very End;1490540]I don't really understand the argument that it's too hard to drive..

I drove the LX cars, hell, even the FO8 with keyboard back in time, it was a challenge from hell but fun too. The key to kontroll that beast with keyboard is a propper setups, both car setup and keyboard setup.

But ultimatelig it's tapping frenzy on the trottle and turn buttons :)

[AcesHigh]

[QUOTE=jrs_4500;1490931]It really is for me. Keyboard is physically impossible, and my MOMO wheel (I don't know if it wasn't set up correctly with the game or what) the slightest throttle movement would send the car spinning even if you're trying to go in a straight line or driving conservatively. Of course, that was only a test patch.



I drove the LX cars, hell, even the FO8 with keyboard back in time, it was a challenge from hell but fun too. The key to kontroll that beast with keyboard is a propper setups, both car setup and keyboard setup.

But ultimatelig it's tapping frenzy on the trottle and turn buttons :)

Yeah i remember being quite sucessfull back in my demo-days when i didnt have a wheel. That was when XRT was a demo car still, and me and my friend would kick ass against people using wheel.

So its possible yes... using a higher gear ratio helped me.

[Breizh]

But could you keep up with a properly wheel-driven LX?

[AcesHigh]

But could you keep up with a properly wheel-driven LX?

As i didnt crack my LFS i would know, i got the wheel a while before i decided to buy the game. And stuck with ever since.. i have tried the BF1 with mouse once and it was "do-able" thanks to antispin.

[rockclan]

... Listen to the man! He might be the only racer who drives this car properly, and quicker than 99,9%.

I can't even drive the lx4, I take the lx6 for a ride every year because it has the best sounding engine by far (in lfs) and I would shreddddd the lx8's tyres to bits in 1 or 2 carefully driven corners.

greetz

der bumpybutz


Had a try at the leaked version of LFS with the LX8 in it.

It was an absolute lovely moment, but hard to control.

[dawesdust_12]

Had a try at the leaked version of LFS with the LX8 in it.

It was an absolute lovely moment, but hard to control.

Biggest problem was that it had old tyre physics.. which were insanely hard with RWD cars (IMO).

I think I actually unlocked the leaked version with my S2 username (when it worked, before Master server change)... shocked that there were never any consequences.

[Breizh]

As i didnt crack my LFS i would know, i got the wheel a while before i decided to buy the game. And stuck with ever since.. i have tried the BF1 with mouse once and it was "do-able" thanks to antispin.
I don't think you can drive an LX4/6, never mind LX8, over about 4 or 5/10ths with a keyboard. Unless you neuter it with a bunch of driving aids.

[TehPaws3D]

I can get 4% off the WR on SO6 Chicane Route \ Both on keyboard with no help and mouse with no help. Just depends on the driver.. Since my wheel broke (BUT A G27 IS COMING FRIDAY!! :D :D :D)

[rockclan]

Biggest problem was that it had old tyre physics.. which were insanely hard with RWD cars (IMO).

I think I actually unlocked the leaked version with my S2 username (when it worked, before Master server change)... shocked that there were never any consequences.

Same thought.

I still have that version somewhere, can't be bothered to search though.

[Breizh]

I can get 4% off the WR on SO6 Chicane Route \ Both on keyboard with no help and mouse with no help. Just depends on the driver.. Since my wheel broke (BUT A G27 IS COMING FRIDAY!! :D :D :D)

Compared to your time on a good wheel?

[TehPaws3D]

Well the difference is about 1 - 2 seconds off, But my wheel was about 74% faster than keyboard and 28% Faster than mouses.

Compared to other mouse users I'm slow, So I don't know.

[Breizh]

How I see it: You can't drive an LX8 anywhere near full potential with a mouse or keyboard. If that's the criteria for adding it to public versions of LFS, I don't think it passes.

But I don't think that's what the criteria should be. If people are having fun with it, it should be in. The subtle factor IMO is that unless the new tire physics really have made it so much more accessible, the LX8 just won't be anything but a weird machine that only aliens can reliably do anything with. It seems like most people won't get the LX8 beyond what they could get from the LX6 (i.e. they'd end up with the same laptimes walking on eggs around corners with the LX8 and then powering down straights, as they would struggling to properly push the LX6 at 7-8/10ths around corners). The sticking point IMO is that regardless what I or others think, that seems to be below Scavier's standards.

[rockclan]

I agree with all what the man above here says.

It has lots of sense. :)

[UnknownMaster21]

I am pretty sorry about the bump but....



How I see it: You can't drive an LX8 anywhere near full potential with a mouse or keyboard. If that's the criteria for adding it to public versions of LFS, I don't think it passes.

But I don't think that's what the criteria should be. If people are having fun with it, it should be in. The subtle factor IMO is that unless the new tire physics really have made it so much more accessible, the LX8 just won't be anything but a weird machine that only aliens can reliably do anything with. It seems like most people won't get the LX8 beyond what they could get from the LX6 (i.e. they'd end up with the same laptimes walking on eggs around corners with the LX8 and then powering down straights, as they would struggling to properly push the LX6 at 7-8/10ths around corners). The sticking point IMO is that regardless what I or others think, that seems to be below Scavier's standards.


+1


Now what I think btw, LX8 GTR might be added back when new tyre physics will come... This is just my thought but if we really would have LX8 GTR back for 100% I am pretty much sure there will be LX multiclass racing :)


So, let's hope it will come back with tyre physics (new ones)

Yeah, and it should be exactly original from 0.5F

[eX-Driv3r]

... Now what I think btw, LX8 GTR might be added back when new tyre physics will come... This is just my thought but if we really would have LX8 GTR back for 100% I am pretty much sure there will be LX multiclass racing :)

So, let's hope it will come back with tyre physics (new ones)

Yeah, and it should be exactly original from 0.5F

+2

I agree with you.

[rockclan]

+2

I agree with you.

+3 I agree also!

[Senninha25]

+4'ing on this, great idea! :thumb:

[BlueFlame]

+5 that LX8 was an animal..

[Sobis]

+6, I really want to try that thing...

[shorty943]

Packs a torch and a cut lunch and goes hunting down the archive vault for an old version of LFS with the LX8.

ME WANTS stupid overpowered machine.:nod:

So make that a +7

[troy]

screw the rallypack, LX8 is all we need.

(waits for veryend to turn up)

[XCNuse]

screw the rallypack, LX8 is all we need.

What?!

No way! I still want the rallypack lol!!!!!!!!!


I'll take the LX8 too :razz:

[PMD9409]

I'll take a track, kthxbai. :D

[The Very End]

screw the rallypack, LX8 is all we need.


Your not my friend anymore :(

[UnknownMaster21]

We have enough tracks, specially when OTC came...


So, LX8 ftw!

[sinbad]

We have enough tracks, specially when OTC came...


So, LX8 ftw!
Hmm, not that our argument would make the slightest difference to what we do get (if anything), but I feel the exact opposite. We don't have enough tracks, and we certainly don't have enough considering how long we have had them. A new track would revive my interest for a while, whilst a new car on the same old circuits would only briefly interest me.

[teppo.jr]

i would personally love LX8 i don't see why its not in game since it was allready done... okay maybe just MAYBE a bit too strong car to drive but whata f**k i don't care i LOVE LX cars with too much power :)

[PMD9409]

Hmm, not that our argument would make the slightest difference to what we do get (if anything), but I feel the exact opposite. We don't have enough tracks, and we certainly don't have enough considering how long we have had them. A new track would revive my interest for a while, whilst a new car on the same old circuits would only briefly interest me.

Same feeling. Even if its not rockingham, no big deal. Give me some fantasy track with a few configurations and that has me for a few months.

[Nadeo4441]

Exactly. Everybody would be happy with a new track, racers, drifters and even cruisers...

[Senninha25]

Same feeling. Even if its not rockingham, no big deal. Give me some fantasy track with a few configurations and that has me for a few months.
as proved by the open configurations released this year. :thumb:

[KiRmelius]

screw the rallypack, LX8 is all we need.

(waits for veryend to turn up)

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/9/22/128665785240782049.jpg

[teppo.jr]

OFF: omg that picture :).

ON: Its same to me if it would be tarmac,rallycross or even oval... but i still would think ''well it's still NEW track to play :).'' so i guess new track=happy racers/drifters/cruisers :).

[Keling]

Taking the added weight and increased grip into consideration, I'm having a really hard time figuring out why would the little extra power make such a big difference. Maybe the tyre physics was really different at that time.


Damn I still am subscribed to this thread, stop bumping it my heart is racing every time I see the LX8 on top of my subscription list. :weeping:

You can unsubscribe... :shrug:

[Kristi]

Considering your join time, you didn't really know what the pre-Y tire physics were like. But I think it was more grippier than the current ones.

[1303s_vortech]

...I'm having a really hard time figuring out why would the little extra power make such a bigger difference...

Little extra to ...LX6? Sure ! The '8 is so peaceful...

[/Sarcasm off] Don't take offence, but did you even tried the car...? :Looking_a

[Sobis]

Don't take offence, but did you even tried the car...? :Looking_a

I haven't try but I really want to!

[Stiggie]

[/Sarcasm off] Don't take offence, but did you even tried the car...? :Looking_a

Hardly driveable, but a lot of fun. :D
Though I think most of the people just want the LX8 added to try it out, to see for themselves just how mental it is.
It's not like there's any car in the game to compare it to, which is probably also the reason it has been removed in the early stages.

[The Very End]

If you can't drive the car, then you do something wrong. There nothing that is a too powerfull car, a not capable human however ;)

[1303s_vortech]

[...] There nothing that is a too powerfull car, a not capable human however ;)
Agreed & as Bob Smith told a while earlier, it can't be overpowered.
Anyway, it's not really hard to over-use it power (reminds Fisherman's adverts sometimes) if you drive it like LX4-6.

[Stiggie]

If you can't drive the car, then you do something wrong. There nothing that is a too powerfull car, a not capable human however ;)

Guess I didn't explain myself clearly enough, I drove it with keyboard at the time, if only I still had the build of LFS on my computer, to properly try it out with a steering wheel. :(
All I know is, it was nearly impossible to drive using a keyboard. I guess not being able to feather the throttle had something to do with it.
Does anyone know if you can in fact still find the LFS build where the LX8 is included? I'm really quite interested in trying it now.

[The Very End]

Guess I didn't explain myself clearly enough, I drove it with keyboard at the time, if only I still had the build of LFS on my computer, to properly try it out with a steering wheel. :(
All I know is, it was nearly impossible to drive using a keyboard. I guess not being able to feather the throttle had something to do with it.
Does anyone know if you can in fact still find the LFS build where the LX8 is included? I'm really quite interested in trying it now.

Keyboard, then it must have been a horror O_o
Also, the FO8 were a beast to drive before, but after the various patches it's now beeing a good racing car which isn't too difficoult to drive :)