lfs forum history (3y) [Archive]

KiDCoDEa

10th August 2005, 22:55

hello guys,
these 3 years of posts are part of lfs history.
will we get the lfs content that was hosted at rsc in an archive section here? would be nice.
would be cool not to depend on a 3rd party for that piece of history to be hosted and browsed. (much less that 3rd party imho).
is it possible vic? to import that data onto a archive section?

tristancliffe

10th August 2005, 23:01

The forums LOOK very similar, so there is a good chance they use the same underlying system. Therefore I'd say the chances are quite high. Occasionally it's good (and necessary) to read 2/3 year old threads, so I agree, they are a must.

Scirocco

10th August 2005, 23:03

If not all the threads, it'd be nice to at least be able to import some of the more important threads. :nod: I'm not sure what the uppermost staff at RSC would say to this though. :shrug:

KiDCoDEa

10th August 2005, 23:07

The forums LOOK very similar, so there is a good chance they use the same underlying system.

it uses what the majority of the bigger forums on the net use, vbulletin. same as rsc and same as almost any forum i visit :)

Victor

10th August 2005, 23:12

tristancliffe

10th August 2005, 23:17

Nice avatar Victor :nod:

RichardTowler

10th August 2005, 23:19

wtf kid not banned here already?

KiDCoDEa

10th August 2005, 23:38

ahahaha bicth love ya :) you mah hull igan :)

hull, worst place to like in uk! well done rich!!!

KiDCoDEa

10th August 2005, 23:39

Putting them into some form of read-only archive could be possible, but i wouldn't know any quick solution.
I'm sure rsc won't delete the whole lot though and maybe one day we can find a way to archive all the old stuff.

thats exactly what i had in mind. thats all thats required really. readonly archive (being included in searches) in great. hope u can make it in future.

Cutter

10th August 2005, 23:39

Pity, there's some great historical LFS stuff at RSC.

Mind you theres a fair bit of junk as well.

Cutter

10th August 2005, 23:42

If nothing else the technical help would be valuable.

Nitemare

10th August 2005, 23:47

well importing posts isn't really possible, because of the completely different post-id's, user-id's, etc. Putting them into some form of read-only archive could be possible, but i wouldn't know any quick solution.
I'm sure rsc won't delete the whole lot though and maybe one day we can find a way to archive all the old stuff.well i think it's not that hard to import them.. (but i may be wrong, since i don't know how exactly database in vbulettin looks)
i once made a similar thing, when i had to import 2000 posts from phpbb forum to mercuryboard...

thread_id's and post_id's could be rewritten, and still kept in the same order..
but the user-id would have to be changed to anonymous in all posts... of course all avatars and signatures and stuff will be gone, but usernames belonging to posts should stay (there should be a field for user name in posts table, in case someone anonymous is posting)

L(Oo)ney

11th August 2005, 00:00

hull, worst place to like in uk! well done rich!!!

It's not that bad, honest. [/sarcasm]

Full of theifing little ****'s.

tristancliffe

11th August 2005, 00:01

Nice to see you testing the swear-filter there Loon :D

TagForce

11th August 2005, 00:26

well importing posts isn't really possible, because of the completely different post-id's, user-id's, etc. Putting them into some form of read-only archive could be possible, but i wouldn't know any quick solution.

Download impExp from the vbulletin site??? ;) Maybe this helps?
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116398

L(Oo)ney

11th August 2005, 00:31

Nice to see you testing the swear-filter there Loon :D

I manually put the stars in there, chav isnt on the swear list. ;)

Victor

11th August 2005, 00:32

yeah but integrating one forum into a whole other forum with already existing accounts is not done by that afaik. But I may be wrong as I haven't really looked at it. It's on my hd though, ready to be unzipped :P

but yes, for archiving it's possible - but again, not by default afaik, so if we want to have all the old posts as a viewable archive here, some forum modifications will still be necessary.

tristancliffe

11th August 2005, 00:34

I manually put the stars in there, chav isnt on the swear list. ;)

Ohok. I thought you used a work beginning with S. Would have been equally applicable (and the same when censored)!

TagForce

11th August 2005, 00:53

yeah but integrating one forum into a whole other forum with already existing accounts is not done by that afaik.

That's precisely what it was created for afaik... You can even (if you want) associate imported user-ids with existing users on your forum. So a post made by someone called LFSnut on RSC can be associated with a user on this board, and it would look (and work) like a post actually made by the local user instead of the RSC user.
If the users here have the same email address associated with their accounts as they have on RSC (have them check) then the association process is automatic.

Now, there was one thing that had me going for days... You'll need to import all the data in 1(!!) single go... If you rerun the importer it will delete all entities that have a set importid... Maybe there's a workaround for that, but I don't know. It's just annoying to see all the posts from one forum disappear when you import a second forum, including some users... *make backups*

L(Oo)ney

11th August 2005, 00:55

So a post made by someone called LFSnut on RSC

So, i'll get those 22 posts added onto this account aswell? LOL :stir:

Im not bothered about my post count, means nothing. Infact it should be removed.

TagForce

11th August 2005, 01:01

So, i'll get those 22 posts added onto this account aswell? LOL

No... Unless you have the same email here as on RSC... Don't think Victor wants to manually set the 2000 users to their counterparts here.

Brings up an interesting point... Are bans imported along with the user info? ;)

Impreza WRX

11th August 2005, 06:04

Hey! Nice Forum! Alright! Do I still have my RSC Avatar?

*EDIT* Nope, importing...

detail

11th August 2005, 07:07

KiDCoDEa, finally you are unbanned on the new forum! Congratulations! :D

Eh, the join dates are now Aug 2005. I was so proud to have "Jan 2003"... :)

Beandip

11th August 2005, 08:10

Eh, the join dates are now Aug 2005. I was so proud to have "Jan 2003"... :)

Bah, having a join date on the first day of this new forum could be cool one day. Give it five years. :) Still, though, I agree. It doesn't say much about how long one's been around LFS (although the join date on RSC wasn't for LFS specifically, anyway).

Scarap

11th August 2005, 08:23

Nice avatar Victor :nod:
That is the background of my laptop :icon23:

kernelpanic

11th August 2005, 08:29

Well, even if the old contents aren't moved over, there's still Google "site: forum.rscnet.org query_string." And if rscnet.org dies, then there's Archive.org.

thd

11th August 2005, 21:21

Bah, having a join date on the first day of this new forum could be cool one day. Give it five years. :) Still, though, I agree. It doesn't say much about how long one's been around LFS (although the join date on RSC wasn't for LFS specifically, anyway).

Join dat does does not, but peoples user id's do. They are identical to the order in which people registered on the LFS website :)

I'm just below 1000, which was sometime in september 2002 iirc. The user above me has 62xxx so he's pretty new :D

Mbrio

11th August 2005, 22:59

You can just import the posts without the users. The posts would then be linked to profile number 0 (which is a guest account.) You'd still have all the usernames attached to the posts though because that's saved seperately in every post.

Anyway, if the devs ask us for it, we'll certainly give them a backup. The LFS forum at RSC won't be going anywhere though, so you can still visit it and read the old posts.

Krane

12th August 2005, 00:31

I'm just below 1000, which was sometime in september 2002 iirc.:noob: :hihi: ;)

I'm 24th :nana:

Seamus

12th August 2005, 00:44

<--- 40th :D

Mbrio

12th August 2005, 01:20

4th :p After Victor, Vari and someone else.

Tweaker

12th August 2005, 01:26

I prefer starting fresh anyways. A lot of the old information can be redone, and I'd be willing to do a lot of it. Lots of things go into making a change for this new forum, and having a fresh forum makes it much better in most ways. Yeah the old informative content is gone, but we can still use RSC as a reference.

Forbin

12th August 2005, 01:45

Join dat does does not, but peoples user id's do. They are identical to the order in which people registered on the LFS website :)

I'm just below 1000, which was sometime in september 2002 iirc. The user above me has 62xxx so he's pretty new :D

Where do you see that?

Scirocco

12th August 2005, 01:52

Where do you see that?
Click on your name and it'll be the last number in the link.

This is pretty damn freaky. I'm the 48th member. According to the transaction details, I was also the 48th person to buy S1 when it 1st came out... :hide:

L(Oo)ney

12th August 2005, 02:01

Bah, having a join date on the first day of this new forum could be cool one day. Give it five years. :)

How about having the official forums opening on your birthday? Thats cool, right? ;)

TagForce

12th August 2005, 02:07

According to the transaction details, I was also the 48th person to buy S1 when it 1st came out...

That may be because you had to register to buy S1, and that database is used for this forum... Hence your LFS site name is your username here ;)

KiDCoDEa

12th August 2005, 02:14

TagForce

12th August 2005, 02:24

registering came a LOT later than lfs...

many people played lfs way way before any database.
in fact, if anyone recalls the 0.04 demo website, they all know databases and that site didnt belong together :)

and at that time racing legends / wsc were late by years already.

Which is why I said you had to register to BUY S1...
The reason it shows we are demo-racers/s1 or s2 licensed is because the userdatabase from lfs.net is used for the forums as well... or at least it was copied from that database.

KiDCoDEa

12th August 2005, 02:29

space for rent

Forbin

12th August 2005, 02:57

Click on your name and it'll be the last number in the link.

My name as in the name above my avatar in this post? I don't see anything like that there.

EDIT: Nevermind, I see the address at the bottom. Number 5268 here. I found LFS back in October 2002, around the time .1E came out. :)

J.B.

12th August 2005, 03:28

and at that time racing legends / wsc were late by years already.

Hehe, the West Racing forums was where I first heard of LFS. Thank god. You can tell how desperate I was for a new sim just by the fact that I was there, taking the West brothers seriously (well almost).

Oh, and Hi, nice to see you back. :wave23d:

Beandip

12th August 2005, 06:54

Yeah, that ID number is also misleading. I was playing months before you could register anything, but when they opened up registering names to the public, 3204 people beat me to it (and someone even took my original name, if anyone remembers it). I'm slow. :shy:

KiDCoDEa

31st October 2005, 19:44

vic any update on possibilities of even frozen read only archive of past forum history being integrated here?

Batterypark

31st October 2005, 20:06

Number 456 here... surprisingly low.

Fonnybone

31st October 2005, 20:09

I think it would be nice to have some sort of archive we can search through,
but i for one am not interested in having all this 'merged' here or whatever.
Considering the 1000s of users, i pity the guy coding the 'converter'....

Anyways, isn't the GOOD old stuff lost ?! After that crash a few years ago
on RSC (or was that last year...?! lol). I'd like to have access to the very
beginning of this community :P Turboholics and all !!! hehe

KiDCoDEa

31st October 2005, 20:30

correct if im wrong but i dont think anything was lost.

ajp71

31st October 2005, 21:26

Why are you too lazy to visit RSC, let me half the work for you, a link: http://forum.rscnet.org/forumdisplay.php?f=205

KiDCoDEa

31st October 2005, 21:39

Why are you too lazy to visit RSC, let me half the work for you, a link: http://forum.rscnet.org/forumdisplay.php?f=205

thanks for missing the point. love that kind of posts although around here they tend to become a bit too common.
you do understand that websites are temporary things. some more than others. history things that belong to you shouldnt be kept "safe" in a 3rd party house that can, without trace vanish from the face of the net.
welcome back to the thread.

ajp71

31st October 2005, 22:01

thanks for missing the point. love that kind of posts although around here they tend to become a bit too common.
you do understand that websites are temporary things. some more than others. history things that belong to you shouldnt be kept "safe" in a 3rd party house that can, without trace vanish from the face of the net.
welcome back to the thread.

Well save the threads you want to your hard disk and you can repost them if needed?

ajp71

31st October 2005, 22:04

Anyways, isn't the GOOD old stuff lost

Only the unofficial tempory forum posts were lost, all the posts before the down time are still there.

Fonnybone

1st November 2005, 17:31

correct if im wrong but i dont think anything was lost.

Only the unofficial tempory forum posts were lost, all the posts before the down time are still there.

Ahh cool :) I'll have to go and see if i can find some old stuff...

Altitude

1st November 2005, 17:52

wow, a few ppl from Hull here... I wondered why so many Karoo dynamic IP addresses were banned from RSC :D

L(Oo)ney

1st November 2005, 18:02

I wondered why so many Karoo dynamic IP addresses were banned from RSC :D

:rofl:

"I didnt do it!" :D

[edit] Your birthday is one day after mine. :O

OPK

1st November 2005, 18:14

Nice avatar Victor :nod:

I miss Spongebob :(

;)

z3r0c00l

20th November 2007, 12:14

REALLY BIG BUMP

I was looking through some very early posts trying to answer a question, and found this thread, it's so old I couldn't help but nudge it from last to first place!

spankmeyer

20th November 2007, 12:42

So you dug up a corpse, sprinkled parfume on it and tried to made love to it. There's a reason why dead things should remain underground as they start to stink.

The Very End

20th November 2007, 12:54

So you dug up a corpse, sprinkled parfume on it and tried to made love to it. There's a reason why dead things should remain underground as they start to stink.

:ices_rofl

Anyway, why it needed to be bump`ed?

:)

the_angry_angel

20th November 2007, 12:57

I was looking through some very early posts trying to answer a question, and found this thread, it's so old I couldn't help but nudge it from last to first place!
To my knowledge, the data is still available at RSC - the forum is there at least - surely it's findable there?

Bob Smith

20th November 2007, 13:51

Must be. As you can see (http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=39476), patch fever has been around a while too. Niels was already banging on about doing things properly (http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=39542) too. And finally, the first Ring request (http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=39489). ;)

mattlikespeoples

20th November 2007, 20:59

august 19th, 2002-first 'ring request.

*duely noted*

This should be refered to for anyone asking about new tracks and be told "people have been asking for this for 5 years now, just drop it already!" :x:razz:

mrodgers

21st November 2007, 02:08

Must be. As you can see (http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=39476), patch fever has been around a while too....
I checked the link.... OMG!!! A new patch!!!!

I clicked the link in your link and it DIDN'T WORK!!! Please help!!! I need the new patch!!!!

:razz: