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GTR Racer
6th November 2005, 22:53
us that dont hav money should be able to have a good version of lfs too i must say the same track over n over same car etc is getting BORING!!!!:(

make s1 free!!!!!! or die

tristancliffe
6th November 2005, 22:55
£12

Not a lot
I would make some examples, but it's no point.

When (no, lol, IF) you ever make $100,000 a year, I'm gonna say I'm bored of being poor and you should give me half of your earnings for the hell of it!!!!

Pay, or leave!

O/T: What is it with morons and this forum recently. People are going to think I'm mean and horrid, but so many idiots and people wanted free versions of the cheapest and best racing simulator there is. Geez....

GTR Racer
6th November 2005, 22:58
£12what? us cash plz u britianese man O.o

joshdifabio
6th November 2005, 22:59
us that dont hav money should be able to have a good version of lfs too i must say the same track over n over same car etc is getting BORING!!!!:(

make s1 free!!!!!! or die

Oh _dear_!

Edit: just testing the new editing thingy...

MAGGOT
6th November 2005, 23:03
what? us cash plz u britianese man O.o

Why don't you do your own conversion to see the price? Why is it everyone wants eveything handed to them now?

You WON'T get S1 free. Threatening people won't get you very far either.

MAGGOT

KiDCoDEa
6th November 2005, 23:06
us that dont hav money should be able to have a good version of lfs too i must say the same track over n over same car etc is getting BORING!!!!:(

make s1 free!!!!!! or die


for someone without money you have a lot of powers.
i fear you.

tristancliffe
6th November 2005, 23:09
britianese man? Coming from the country that has people like you in it? LOL!

I know some very cool Americans, but you are not one of them. I bet your whole family going back to the dawn of US history (about 20 years then :p) has never had a worthwhile job, and you probably scrape maggots of your food before you eat them.

^ A much better insult than making up a silly work and typing it without punctuation...

Fonnybone
6th November 2005, 23:18
I know some very cool Americans, but you are not one of them.

To be fair, i'm not sure his nationality has as much to do with his behavior
than his general age/maturity ;) I'm sure there are young spoiled brits too.
Btw, britianese, is that where Britney Spears is from ?! Or is that how we
call her fans, i always forget ...:p

XCNuse
6th November 2005, 23:21
what? us cash plz u britianese man O.o
www.xe.com (http://www.xe.com)
its just barely over 20$ dude.....
you get enough in the demo, alot of everyone that has payed think yall get enough already; 5 tracks and 3 cars is alot.. (technically 3 tracks)

i guess you want us to find you a crack then aye?

Gabkicks
6th November 2005, 23:25
stop being cheap and buy the game. :P if you want the game bad enough sell your copy of gt4.

_rod_
6th November 2005, 23:30
us that dont hav money should be able to have a good version of lfs too i must say the same track over n over same car etc is getting BORING!!!!:(

make s1 free!!!!!! or die


how would you feel if you create something that is one of the best, if not the best thing around, and them some asked for half of it for free??
Dude $20 aint much.... save $1 a day, and in 20 days would be able to buy s1....
The demo guys shouldnt complain at all, lfs has one of the most open demos around...

P5YcHoM4N
6th November 2005, 23:46
Errmm... for someone leaching off someones hardwork, you have a lot of balls.

If you don't buy your comic books for a week, you'd have the money to get it. There are no demo's in the world as open as LFS (trust me, I play a lot). The demo it's self is pretty much a game in it's own rights.

Right now, if I wanted to, I could buy a copy of LFS just by the spare change I have collected over 2 weeks. Is it really that hard to make the cash up?

Vendetta
6th November 2005, 23:52
us that dont hav money should be able to have a good version of lfs too i must say the same track over n over same car etc is getting BORING!!!!:(

make s1 free!!!!!! or die

Oh please just SHUT (insert f word here) UP! Stop whining and pay the 20 bucks!

Anarchi-H
6th November 2005, 23:59
:feedtroll

Tweaker
7th November 2005, 00:09
You know, most things you pay for in life can be rewarding, why do some people gotta be so cheap and not pay some measely lunch money for a quality game?

Bob Smith
7th November 2005, 00:26
The demo is awesome (for a demo), although the people who still play it are often degenerates. ;)

If you are getting bored you are obviously playing the demo lots. That is good, you must be hooked, and you're interested enough to post on the forums about the limited content (which is what the demo is???). But anyway, perhaps if you spent a little less time playing LFS and went outside and washed a few cars or something, you'd get your $20 and can unlock lots more content. And when you get bored of that, a few more cars and you can have the lot.

Best of luck. :)

sil3ntwar
7th November 2005, 01:06
why dont people realise that not everyone can actually pay for the game? Sure this guy is being an idiot but i always see people slagging off others and telling them to not be cheap. Not everyone has a credit card and paypal doesnt work in a lot of countries without one. Sending money in the mail is hardly safe.

_rod_
7th November 2005, 01:24
you want to tell me that some1 who owns a computer powerfull enough to run lfs, and lives in the US, cant afford to get $20 ? is not that hard, i would understand if he were from a 3rd world country like my self... i been on USA, i lived there for over 1 yr. And if hes a poor person why would he wast his money buying one computer?

XCNuse
7th November 2005, 01:26
hes american.. and he has the internet.. he or someone depending on his age i promise you has a credit card.. all you have to do is ask them to buy it and pay them in cash..

and with that attidude.. that is why were mad.. why else?

furthermore... if LFS ever does become free, it probably wont be but until 2030.. atleast.. but most likely later

Gunn
7th November 2005, 01:50
us that dont hav money should be able to have a good version of lfs too i must say the same track over n over same car etc is getting BORING!!!!:(

make s1 free!!!!!! or dieWould you like somebody to come over and mow your lawn this weekend? Maybe they could wipe your bum while they are there?

Nick_ll
7th November 2005, 01:53
Ok I got a solution for you:
Do a lock out and stop cleaning your room. Then ask your parents to sign a contract that says they will pay you 2$ (USD of course) per week for cleaning your room.
Then you can have LFS in what, 11 weeks? (Less if you do that for the whole house with separate contracts)

tinyk
7th November 2005, 02:31
Ok I got a solution for you:
Do a lock out and stop cleaning your room. Then ask your parents to sign a contract that says they will pay you 2$ (USD of course) per week for cleaning your room.
Then you can have LFS in what, 11 weeks? (Less if you do that for the whole house with separate contracts)lol okay I like this idea. :D

us that dont hav money should be able to have a good version of lfs too i must say the same track over n over same car etc is getting BORING!!!!:(

make s1 free!!!!!! or die You can't expect to be given everything you want for free just because you don't have much or any money and making comments like make it free or die is just silly and childish. Is having S1 that important to you?

~*~*~*~tinyk~*~*~*~

P5YcHoM4N
7th November 2005, 02:43
Or... get a part time job *shock horror*.

There is always a way to buy something if you need it. Before my bank gave me a new debit card (because I wasn't making x ammount of cash a year) I just gave my parents cash, and they'd buy all my stuff for me. If I was strapped for cash, I'd go around fixing peoples computers for cash (doing that made me £500 in one week :D But I had to stop, the stress from mongaloids was getting to me, if one more person asked me to fix a computer because they was an idiot I'd have gone on a shooting rampage).

Hell, I even babysat for my sister once and got a smooth £15 for playing Warcraft III with my nephew for 4 hours (But I didn't like that. He's 8 [I think] and he kicked my arse >.<). There are so many ways to make money and pay for a game. And really, if you're that strapped for cash... you wouldn't have a computer nor the interweb.

And I wasn't some rich snotty kid who got everything. Everything in my room right now (bar a mug and a phone, and a couple of other birthday/christmas presents, and the junk the uni puts in, like beds and stuff) I paid for with my own cash, I worked hard as hell to get it. But in the end I did. Then it feels so much better when you get it as you hit a goal. Like saving for my sound system (£105 for 2.1 Creative Megaworks), damn was a glad when I hit that goal.

Shotglass
7th November 2005, 02:47
make s1 free!!!!!! or die

hmmm giving lfs to someone like you for free or die ... id rather choose death

Kamikaze
7th November 2005, 02:57
I've been fortunate enough to have someone offer to buy me S1 and S2 (they will remain nameless) S1, I didn't have a credit card S2, I was out of the game, and a good friend said he would buy it for me. But S3, I will most definetly buy myself, I was thinking of buying S2 for someone that played demo this year, but he was being a bit of a wiseguy so he missed out. Pays to be nice to people in life. Don't be a pushover but be nice :)

Breizh
7th November 2005, 03:22
I actually have negative money, so I deserve it more than you.
The copy of S2 you eventually buy will be mine.
Because I said so.

dhinchin
7th November 2005, 03:22
us that dont hav money should be able to have a good version of lfs too i must say the same track over n over same car etc is getting BORING!!!!:(

make s1 free!!!!!! or die

What an excellent idea. Make S2 free, hell make S3 free too! Don't stop there, make beer and whisky free too!
GTR Racer for President, you know it makes sense.

Infiniti
7th November 2005, 03:35
Im glad I payed the 43 USD for S2, if LFS was free this game would go no where, jsut think of anyone that had internet getting their grimey hands on it and screwing around online, like the demo days :scratchch And the devs would have no interest in updating it, cause they wouldnt make cash doing it. Besides paying for somethin and owning it makes you feel good about yourself that you reached a goal wether its easy or hard, long or short term. I got a part time job *16yrs old* and payed the game off in a few weeks. Made 8 bucks and hour :thumb: So get your self a job or mow lawns wash cars, the job list is endless. It just takes responsibility to do so. Good Luck

Pootie
7th November 2005, 03:40
Who shit in your cheerios this morning??? LOL

Tweaker
7th November 2005, 03:44
:doh: this laughing hurts Pootie!!!! :D :D

Pootie
7th November 2005, 03:46
Guess I should die!!!!!!!!1 now,How old is this dude?

P5YcHoM4N
7th November 2005, 03:52
Who shit in your cheerios this morning??? LOL
Is it wrong that I have a mental image of someone running upto some kids cheerios and leaving a nice steamer on top? Damn I just have to use that today. Probably when my lecturer get's on my back for being late again :D

Pootie
7th November 2005, 03:53
lol,if you use that with your lecturer,let me know how he responds :D

KiDCoDEa
7th November 2005, 08:15
how would you feel if you create something that is one of the best, if not the best thing around, and them some asked for half of it for free??
Dude $20 aint much.... save $1 a day, and in 20 days would be able to buy s1....
The demo guys shouldnt complain at all, lfs has one of the most open demos around...

damright!

AndroidXP
7th November 2005, 08:17
lol,if you use that with your lecturer,let me know how he respondsProbably with "LOL! ......... U R BANNED"

xaotik
7th November 2005, 08:24
make s1 free!!!!!! or die No no no... that's not a good revolutionary motto - you need something you can chant at the top of your voice or print on red T-Shirts for generations of mindless idiots who have no idea what it's about to wear as a symbol of their stand against the estamblishment.

Chant things like S1 For Free and All For Me!. And that attachment can do for a t-shirt...

Also, come up with a name for your movement - like the S1 Liberation Army or something... be creative when you are not on the same track with the same car getting bored.

XCNuse
7th November 2005, 10:18
dunno.. maybe hes just practicing for some speach and is some long lost ancestor or patrick henry :)

lol i love how no demo player has posted yet here

ayrton senna 87
7th November 2005, 10:22
cant the devs give S1 away for free and charge £24 for S2? i know when i played demo there wasnt much incentive to buy S1 because i didnt know how cool it was. maybe if they got a taste of all the cars in S1 they would know more what is in S2.

bobvanvliet
7th November 2005, 10:59
A demo is meant to let people get a feel for a game, not to give away half the content. It's fine the way it is. :thumb:

I know i was hooked the instant I completed my first lap. :smileypul

Boris Lozac
7th November 2005, 11:15
I can't believe this guy.. :really: :pillepall .
He wants for free the S1 part!!?? I would charge the demo also!! It offers so much fun for free, that it is unbelievable!

Goresh
7th November 2005, 11:43
us that dont hav money should be able to have a good version of lfs too i must say the same track over n over same car etc is getting BORING!!!!:(

make s1 free!!!!!! or die

GTR RACER you must be really bad off, proper manners are free and you don't seem able to acquire those either, maybe purchasing LFS is the least of your worries.

al heeley
7th November 2005, 12:01
The trouble is, if you are just given everything you want without earning it, to stop you moaning, you will never have any incentive to get out there and better yourself, to rise to the challenge of an industrious life, to contribute to running a business or service, to save money and raise a proud and strong family, and to help the poor and needy small mammals sanctuary down the road. Now where would the human race be now if no-one aspired to improve their lot in life? No PC's or LFS to waste away those dull and rainy weekends! ;)

Lola Popeye
7th November 2005, 12:32
guys i dont think his coming back to the forums anytime soon :)

AndroidXP
7th November 2005, 12:45
I call gimmick here. The combination of GTR Racer (everybody knows what the true LFS fanbois think of GTR) with the most stupid behaviour someone can think of, has to be an attempt at trolling/infuriating/spreading rage™.

Let's just ignore him :smileypul

Janezki
7th November 2005, 13:20
Darn, that's a pretty silly idea from GTR Racer - but let's still not go into personal insults, please.

L(Oo)ney
7th November 2005, 13:33
Darn, that's a pretty silly idea from GTR Racer - but let's still not go into personal insults, please.

We're all adults here, if he cant take a few personal insults, he shouldnt have made this thread.

Want more cars and tracks? - The answer is easy, stop being a fcuking leech and buy it.

_rod_
7th November 2005, 14:10
Want more cars and tracks? - The answer is easy, stop being a fcuking leech and buy it.

noo need to say another word after this.

JTbo
7th November 2005, 14:11
Now where did I put my baseball bat :D

Stellios
7th November 2005, 14:37
You get 3 cars and one track in LFS. In GTR you get 2 cars and one track, and in some demos you get one car!

Be thankful for what you have, or stop being tight and buy the game, it is worth it.

jmkz
7th November 2005, 14:39
guess what I race most with my S2 license?

BlackWood + GTi :)

Chris_Kerry
7th November 2005, 15:02
It's a demo because it's free and a taster. Giving away S1 would then make that the demo wouldn't it? Allow the dev's to make money on all of their work.

boosterfire
7th November 2005, 15:25
Okay... this is just (O.o) pathetic... I just can't believe some people are complaining like that to get something free. Man... get a job, sell something or just make yourself a whore to make some money. You could also hack some US bank or the FBI to steel a 20bucks, but I wouln't recommend it. :Looking_a

Oh, btw wouln't it be nice if all would be free? No more money problems! We could take everything that we want from everybody... :scratchch

Oh, I almost forgot: I'm sure this guy goes every saturday to a supermarket (for instance, clubprice), to eat the free demos, you know... as Homer Simpson does. I don'T think eating lfs demo will help, tho...

keiran
7th November 2005, 15:35
A demo is a taster so you've had this taster and must like it then you buy the game. You don't go into the bakers when they have tasters out and ask for a whole one for free do you :s This is the Devs need to make money and at £12 a copy of LFS it's not a lot for the amount of time they have put in and probaly will continue to put into LFS. Keiran

Tweaker
7th November 2005, 15:38
I think everyone has pretty much repeated the same things over and over again.... what's the point of this thread other than --- it deserves to be put out of its misery? :p

_rod_
7th November 2005, 15:42
I think everyone has pretty much repeated the same things over and over again.... what's the point of this thread other than --- it deserves to be put out of its misery? :p i know that, but i think its because and his attitude that every1 gets pissed and write a anwser telling him how wrong he is, and how childish he is...

boosterfire
7th November 2005, 15:57
i know that, but i think its because and his attitude that every1 gets pissed and write a anwser telling him how wrong he is, and how childish he is...

I'd simply say that this thread is a great occasion to post something useless in a useless thread... it's fun, isn't it? :tilt:

bbman
7th November 2005, 16:23
I may say what everyone else in this thread just said, but:

JUST BUY THE DAMN THING! It's way better than all other sims out there and it's also way less expensive! You can a) pay half a fortune for the next annual installement of exactly the same EA-crap or the next shooter trying to be the next Counter-Strike or you can buy the most enjoyable racing-simulation out there for about 35 bucks... It's your choice...

But DEMANDING the work of a couple of years for free will get you nothing but sarcasm...

boosterfire
7th November 2005, 16:39
Well... actually, LFS isn't cheaper than other games. Other games that are coming out are generally full versions. Theses days, a game costs about 50$ USD when it comes out. Considering that S3 will be the full version of LFS and that each part is 12£, it equals 36£. 36£ is more than 50$ USD... so lfs is more expensive.

It's understandable considering that the devs are living on that game and that they don't have as much customers than another game such as GT4 because it targets a smaller market.

keiran
7th November 2005, 16:50
Your working is wrong there. We are basically buying 3 games. Take for example The Sims you buy the basic game with the knowledge that they are going to add far more content at £20 a shout. This game is far cheaper :)

Keiran

bbman
7th November 2005, 17:08
Well... actually, LFS isn't cheaper than other games. Other games that are coming out are generally full versions. Theses days, a game costs about 50$ USD when it comes out. Considering that S3 will be the full version of LFS and that each part is 12£, it equals 36£. 36£ is more than 50$ USD... so lfs is more expensive.

It's understandable considering that the devs are living on that game and that they don't have as much customers than another game such as GT4 because it targets a smaller market.
Let me tell you that: GTL costs 55 € now, even when I would have bought S3 right away, it would have been 5 € cheaper AND I have the knowlegde, that I'll get steady, actually improving patches or updates with new content... Who says, that this would also be the case with GTL?

_rod_
7th November 2005, 17:12
it's fun, isn't it? :tilt:

guess that works too:D

tristancliffe
7th November 2005, 17:26
Darn, that's a pretty silly idea from GTR Racer - but let's still not go into personal insults, please.

I'm not normally one to disagree with moderators, but I don't understand why we can't get a bit personal. He said those things in a manner that implies ignorance and stupidity. Therefore he is bascially kicking the box saying "Please hate me, I'm an uneducated cheating fool". If he researched his statements, wrote them in a well worded argument, and posed it to us in an interesting form of discussion I wouldn't DREAM of getting personal. But he didn't, so we are.

th84
7th November 2005, 17:30
"britianese man? Coming from the country that has people like you in it? LOL!

I know some very cool Americans, but you are not one of them. I bet your whole family going back to the dawn of US history (about 20 years then ) has never had a worthwhile job, and you probably scrape maggots of your food before you eat them."



and comments such as these are quite stupid and ignorant as well!!!@

boosterfire
7th November 2005, 17:31
Let me tell you that: GTL costs 55 € now, even when I would have bought S3 right away, it would have been 5 € cheaper AND I have the knowlegde, that I'll get steady, actually improving patches or updates with new content... Who says, that this would also be the case with GTL?

Okay, then I ask this: is it really a good deal to save 5€ on LFS if it takes something like 8 years to be completed? I mean... it's a better deal to pay 5€ more and to have a game in about 1 year than to save 5€ on a game that you just can't know when it will go out.

I bought S2 and I will probably buy S3, but the developpement of that game is pathetic. :really:

EDIT: btw guys, I don't think a country war is a good idea :P

tristancliffe
7th November 2005, 17:35
He started it :p
And you missed off the :p in the history bit too, implying that I have absolutely nothing against Americans whatsoever. Just people like him. Besides, he called me britanese, which isn't even a word!

th84
7th November 2005, 17:45
wow, u really do think we are idiots huh? lol
Its a shame people take every oppurtunity they can to flame America!

but considering the source, its no suprise!! :P

pretty handy how u can edit these quick reply without the "edited" on the bottom!


well it worked the first time anyway!:P

Tweaker
7th November 2005, 17:49
Besides, he called me britanese, which isn't even a word!

I wonder if he got his education for *FREE* too? :D :really:

Lible
7th November 2005, 18:00
All who haven`t check this out: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=35451#post35451 :thumb:

And GTR-man, get to hell with your free version. If LFS would be free, some idiots would come and wreck our CRC-style racing. :pillepall

bbman
7th November 2005, 18:03
Okay, then I ask this: is it really a good deal to save 5€ on LFS if it takes something like 8 years to be completed? I mean... it's a better deal to pay 5€ more and to have a game in about 1 year than to save 5€ on a game that you just can't know when it will go out.

I bought S2 and I will probably buy S3, but the developpement of that game is pathetic. :really:

EDIT: btw guys, I don't think a country war is a good idea :P
Eight years constant improvement (from a level, that is even to GTL, GTR whatsoever) against maybe two years till a new version comes out and you have to pay another 50 bucks... Well, yeah, I consider this better... ;)

ajp71
7th November 2005, 18:44
Please don't buy S2, I don't want to race against dickheads like you.

Nick_ll
7th November 2005, 18:44
I wonder if he got his education for *FREE* too? :D :really:
I believe you can get free educations in cereal boxes. So the real question is: did he pay the cereal box?

ayrton senna 87
7th November 2005, 18:52
i think S1 should be made free and i expect lots of fools to start saying blah blah blah because they dont see the big picture. i wonder how many people NOWDAYS buy S1 on its own instead of buying both at once not many i bet. (maybe a few because they dont want to commit to paying £24 and when they get S1 would be dissapointed at the lack of online action)

if non licenced users had the chance to sample more cars and more tracks they would see what LFS can offer them, and think more about the improvemnts of S2. i know when i first started i didnt have any idea about what was in S1 had in it until i was told by Aussie, i was happy being a demo player because i didnt realise how good S1 was.

disclaimer (:p) -
btw i havnt said "give it free or die", i have put my opinion forward so pls dont make some stupid posts about how crazy i am without giving a reason WHY, and saying that the devs need to make money isnt really a good reason, because they would more likely get MORE people buying S2 at 24 quid than the very few who buy S1 at 12, and find theres no servers on in S1 EVER so think **** that, and dont bother to spend the extra 12 to get S2.

if u look at the big picture i think it would make more, and i was a god at business at A level so im not making silly suggestions ;)

and im not defending the guy who started this thread because hes obviously a tosser :)

xapexcivicx
7th November 2005, 18:53
haha wow. Some people really make me laugh.

Or ya know...you can go up to mommy and daddy (I'm sure that's what you call them at your age) And ask/beg them for money. GOD FORBID you actually get off your worthless ass and do something to earn it too.:Looking_a

Gabkicks
7th November 2005, 18:54
Please don't buy S2, I don't want to race against dickheads like you.

hehe, i wish you'd said that much more earlier on when... :tilt: a few troublemakers have already gotten in:hide:


i think 3 cars, 1 track and online support is enough for a demo. many other games offer much less. look how satisfied they are staying demo racers for so long...

Breizh
7th November 2005, 19:37
Must've gotten grounded if his parents saw the flames he caused in his thread :D

frokki
7th November 2005, 19:42
Please don't buy S2, I don't want to race against dickheads like you.

So true :D

X-Ter
7th November 2005, 20:19
i think 3 cars, 1 track and online support is enough for a demo. many other games offer much less. look how satisfied they are staying demo racers for so long...
Indeed it is. GTR Demo had one track and two cars (of witch one was fugly and hard to handle). rFactor demo had 3 variations of the same car (but it wasn't all fugly) and one track.
LFS has not one but two tracks since you can drive the rallycross track as well, and you can drive them both in reverse direction, witch is 4 layouts. So 4 tracks and three cars is very generous I think.

What should be added though (as mentioned before by both me as well as others) is some sort of replay viewer so we can "show off" S2 and future versions to those who still hesitate :)

Stellios
7th November 2005, 20:43
I partly agree with Mr Senna on this one. S1 cars are not nearly as good as in S2, and people paying for S1 alone would probbly think tis a bit sparse. Im not saying give it away, but lowing the price a touch may inspire people to make the initial purchase, and a few extra quid in the devs pocket is better than people staying with the demo forever.

[RCG]Boosted
7th November 2005, 20:45
i never seen a demo before, in that u had such a good simulation of driving.
like he said 4 types of tracks, 3 cars, unlimited time to play, offline and online, AI there, up to 12. thats a lot of stuff for free.

xapexcivicx
7th November 2005, 20:51
not to mention all the skins you can get your hand on + online hosting on lfsw

Gabkicks
7th November 2005, 21:11
if s1 ever becomes free i want a refund of my 22 dollars i spent.:scratchch

TagForce
7th November 2005, 21:29
Why did it take 70 posts for someone to type my sentiments on this matter?!

I'm not a wrecker, but if they ever make S1 free, I'll go out of my way to make sure YOU don't enjoy it... Idiot.

Gunn
7th November 2005, 21:43
Buying S1 is an option for people to attain more content. We all paid for S1 our content and so should everyone else.

Some personal comments in this topic are dissapointing to see and I think all members who replied got their feelings across quite clearly. Locking this now as it has surely run its course.

Please people, refrain from name calling, we are all smart enough to communicate our meaning without the nastiness towards those with whom we may disagree.