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TurboRacer35
6th November 2005, 16:21
I shift with my keyboard, auto shift off, auto clutch off, the way a real racer would drive a Stick. It's easy.
clutch-shift-rev-gas-clutch-shift-gas-clutch-shift-gas-clutch-shift-gas-clutch-shift lol
Edit: sequense fixed
AndroidXP
6th November 2005, 16:33
Errrrr... what?! :hypnotize
yozzer
6th November 2005, 16:40
:Looking_a Medic !!!!
think he bumped his head ontoo the rollcage
:nurse: :nurse:
SHIFT_
6th November 2005, 16:48
rofl @ yozzer :p
I have a DFP and Act-Labs pedals with the clutch, so I usually keep autoclutch off, my method is lift, clutch, shift, back on the loud pedal. Sometimes if I feel lazy I'll turn the autoclutch on and just lift a bit between shifts.
Most people I think just use the paddles on their steering wheels, so there isn't a whole to explain about shifting.
Fonnybone
6th November 2005, 17:13
Off with his head !!!! :headbang:
P5YcHoM4N
6th November 2005, 17:19
...shift-clutch-gas...
You shift before clutch o_O That can't be good...
TurboRacer35
6th November 2005, 17:41
You shift before clutch o_O That can't be good...
I clutch it after 5th on a 5 speed?
Edit: Oops: I got the beginning messed up.
(SaM)
6th November 2005, 17:48
Lol, dont do that when you get to drive a manual in real life, that's cog grindage.
In LFS, you can clutch in, shift, clutch out and get on the throttle. That's the way I do it and that's the way you have to do in just about any car.
Clutch in - shift - clutch out - gas - clutch in - shift - clutch out - gas etc.
But you can also shift first and then press clutch in LFS.
TurboRacer35
6th November 2005, 17:51
Lol, dont do that when you get to drive a manual in real life, that's cog grindage.
In LFS, you can clutch in, shift, clutch out and get on the throttle. That's the way I do it and that's the way you have to do in just about any car.
Clutch in - shift - clutch out - gas - clutch in - shift - clutch out - gas etc.
But you can also shift first and then press clutch in LFS.
Shifting first and clutching will stall if you're not quick if you don't use autoclutch (like me.)
eindewege
6th November 2005, 19:02
Shifting first and clutching will stall if you're not quick if you don't use autoclutch (like me.)
Not in LFS, I do it all the time.
Its the other way around, if you release the clutch before you've finished shifting, it will go into neutal.
bbman
6th November 2005, 19:19
clutch in - shift - slight throttle - clutch out - full throttle
Copy that another 5 times to get the way to 6th...
Qurpiz
6th November 2005, 19:28
I have DFP, and I use the buttons that replaces the paddles. I have autoclutch on (I know, I'm lazy)
the_angry_angel
6th November 2005, 19:34
With my hands and legs.
Michael Miskella
6th November 2005, 20:12
auto clutch and padels, dfp
TurboRacer35
6th November 2005, 20:42
I have DFP, and I use the buttons that replaces the paddles. I have autoclutch on (I know, I'm lazy)
TURN OFF THE AUTO CLUTCH, WiMP
Edit by Fonnybone: I took the liberty to reduce your font size a bit, seriously though, i hope you are joking. Either that or you are a fire:)man.
AndroidXP
6th November 2005, 20:51
TURN OFF THE AUTO CLUTCH, WiMPYour font is too small, I can barely read it. Please use a bigger font next time
geeman1
6th November 2005, 20:52
TURN OFF THE AUTO CLUTCH, WiMP
I used to have a additional pedal as a clutch and I used the DFPs shifter. After a while I started to feel bit weird. In reality car's dont have sequential gearboxes and use a manual clutch (atleast I don't know one). Also LFSs manual clutch does not feel right. Not having any forces in the clutch pedal makes it feel unrealistic and also difficult to judge does the clutch work right. You can actually shift faster with manual clutch by just only hitting the clutch a really tiny amount (Even faster if you press the gear change button before applying clutch). And in LFS the car won't stall anyway, the autoclutch kicks in when you are about to stall even if you have set it off.
So now I just use the paddles in DFP (with autoclutch).
Also real race cars like GTRs in LFS probably would have a sequential gearbox with autoclutch anyway.
NotAnIllusion
7th November 2005, 00:22
I shift with my keyboard, auto shift off, auto clutch off, the way a real racer would drive a Stick. It's easy.
I shift with the keyb mostly, so here
Up:
release gas
tap the clutch and shift simultaneously
pedal to the metal
Down:
step on the brakes
tap clutch and shift simultaneously
tap brakes if wheels lock :p
And downshifting w/ pedals & stick (autoclutch):
step on the brakes
tap clutch, gas (manual blip) & shift simultaneously
loosen up on the brakes if wheels lock
tailing
7th November 2005, 09:11
You can actually shift faster with manual clutch by just only hitting the clutch a really tiny amount
Your wrong here, as long as I've been playing with a clutch pedal you've needed to fully depress the clutch to change gear. That's the most common cause of a miss shift for me, not depressing the clutch far enough and ending up in neutral.
Maybe there's some setting I don't know about but this is how it is afaik.
btw, sequential shifter, manual clutch, all aids off :thumb:
geeman1
7th November 2005, 11:07
Your wrong here, as long as I've been playing with a clutch pedal you've needed to fully depress the clutch to change gear. That's the most common cause of a miss shift for me, not depressing the clutch far enough and ending up in neutral.Tiny was maybe a little wrong word here, but any way you don't have to press the clutch all the way anyway. About half way maybe, when I used manual clutch I just pressed the clutch as fast as I could, so it's hard to tell how fully it went. Only thing I am sure of is that it's a lot faster to use manual clutch than autoclutch, because the autoclutch is really slow.
[RCG]Boosted
7th November 2005, 12:17
mouse driver...autoclutch , handshifting.
tried manual clutch also but thats too hard lol
will try it when i get a wheel :D
CrazyICE
7th November 2005, 12:21
me only siwtches up and down :)
kidding...
autoclutch, manuel shifting of course!
JoonasK
7th November 2005, 12:27
Hi!
I have a old'n cheap microsoft wheel and extra pedals from flightsim use i use as a clutch.
So paddles on wheel+clutch.
I like it's more fun to drive like this.
Maybe for formula cars i switch autoclutch on.
-Jone-
Don Merino
7th November 2005, 13:11
I have a clutch pedal - I simply bolted 2 sets of pedals on a base plate - 1 MS Sidewinder one Thrustmaster GP. The Thrustmaster pedals are more sensitive and accurate but I hate the feel of them, so I use the Sidewinder pedals for gas and brakes. Heel-toeing is also easier with the Sidewinder pedals, as they are further apart than the Thrustmaster's.
Oh, and I use the Thrustmaster Wheel and shift with the stick.
I started building an H-shifter, too; mechanics are already done, but after getting a bill from the motorcycle garage that was three times higher than expected I had to put the project on ice.
v4forlife
7th November 2005, 15:22
shift?!?!? what the hell?
and what are gears??
ohh, i think this will explain so much for my lap times
Theafro
7th November 2005, 16:07
yeah, i think it's them numbery things that live in your dashboard :) but seriously, if you've got the opportunity, Try racing with a clutch, more immersion and more control, i can't quite explain why, but if i use auto-clutch my driving deteriorates and i start making a real mess of things. (mainly with downchanges). so i stick with pedalling the 'ol gal.
herki
7th November 2005, 17:30
since october 30th i shift with 3 pedals... unfortunatly i don't have a H-shifter :/
tailing
8th November 2005, 11:58
Tiny was maybe a little wrong word here, but any way you don't have to press the clutch all the way anyway. About half way maybe, when I used manual clutch I just pressed the clutch as fast as I could, so it's hard to tell how fully it went. Only thing I am sure of is that it's a lot faster to use manual clutch than autoclutch, because the autoclutch is really slow.
More like about 80-90% ;) seems to depend on whether you've shifted gear or not before depressing the clutch. Your right about all the rest though, it is faster but that's the reward for doing it all yourself which takes extra skill and effort :thumb:
Rotary
11th November 2005, 01:49
I manual shift with my left hand. I use sequential shift and auto clutch as my wheel only has two pedals and a up/down shifter... can't think of to many cars that need you to press button to use the clutch when shifting gears :p
-SE1Z-
11th November 2005, 01:56
I manual shift with my left hand. I use sequential shift and auto clutch as my wheel only has two pedals and a up/down shifter...
Same.
Except... i have the shifter on the right :Looking_a
Not sure why, It may have something to do with the amount of time I used to play Daytona in the game arcades... damn american cabinets :smileypul
VTcommodore
11th November 2005, 04:58
shift using left hand with a clutch totally need a H shifter cus i did sumtn stupid in ma car after playing LFS for a while and i prefer not to talk about it
Rotary
11th November 2005, 05:29
shift using left hand with a clutch totally need a H shifter cus i did sumtn stupid in ma car after playing LFS for a while and i prefer not to talk about it
LOL, you have to tell now :D
:nod:
Rotary
11th November 2005, 08:41
Hehe, ouch. :)
TurboRacer35
12th November 2005, 16:33
Pwn3d.
xapexcivicx
12th November 2005, 16:38
I have a feeling he downshifted when he meant to upshift
in that case
aahhahahahhahha
sorry. <3
Anyway, since my damn logitech pedals just stopped working I now use the padel shifters as gas+brake and the two buttons on the top center for shifting.
It
sucks
alot.
(200 degrees by the way)
Mikkel Petersen
12th November 2005, 18:48
I have a feeling he downshifted when he meant to upshift
in that case
aahhahahahhahha
sorry. <3
Or maybe he used the normal gearstick as it was a sequential gearstick without clutch. So he pulled it either up or down without clutching. :\
Matrixi
13th November 2005, 21:19
I'm shifting 100% manual.. manual clutch (3 pedal set), H-pattern shifter (Act-Labs). Heel & toe is so fun now that I can do it fluently and with no issues at all. Certainly ain't faster than with sequential gearbox and automatic clutch, but it gives much more to the "being there" feeling imo.
Theafro
13th November 2005, 23:42
shift using left hand with a clutch totally need a H shifter cus i did sumtn stupid in ma car after playing LFS for a while and i prefer not to talk about it
Hehe,:tilt: I caught myself looking for my split times when i left my road t'other day, kinda scared me a little.:schwitz:
Batterypark
14th November 2005, 00:56
I don't shift, I let LFS do it for me.
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