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André
29th October 2005, 19:42
I wrote you, Scawen and Victor about the way the charts are misused, still no answer.

Still, again on holiday ? Hope you're both soon back.

tinyk
29th October 2005, 19:47
my guess is they're very busy... relax and smile. Give 'em time. :)

~*~*~*~tinyk~*~*~*~

speedfreak227
29th October 2005, 20:00
exactly what misuse are you talking about?

speedfreak227

XCNuse
29th October 2005, 20:06
if you want to talk to someone privately, please use the private message feature, rather than posting in the public; especially if it has no meaning

(SaM)
29th October 2005, 23:12
if you want to talk to someone privately, please use the private message feature, rather than posting in the public; especially if it has no meaning

Scawen can't be contacted via PM. I recommend e-mailing the devs with LFS-related questions. PMs are for LFSForum related stuff.

André
30th October 2005, 20:44
my guess is they're very busy... relax and smile. Give 'em time. :)

~*~*~*~tinyk~*~*~*~


Yep, I assume he must be very buzy, np, In the mean time we've got some fun at the Oval. Almost forgot the FOX, wow, great car :))))

th84
31st October 2005, 16:18
Oval??? People are still using that?? :P

jmkz
1st November 2005, 14:30
those people who hate corners do at least;)

thd
1st November 2005, 15:07
The oval is one big corner so that doesn't make sense John :)

jmkz
1st November 2005, 15:14
I keep with the topic of this thread, which doesn't make sense either;)

inCogNito
2nd November 2005, 05:55
the answer is 42

jmkz
2nd November 2005, 09:38
how dare you? The universal answer to all questions is "7" ;)

42 was actually a calculation error:p

(SaM)
2nd November 2005, 17:28
how dare you? The universal answer to all questions is "7" ;)

42 was actually a calculation error:p

No, the answer is actually 7x7-7 ( = 42) :thumb:

tristancliffe
2nd November 2005, 19:37
The answer to the ultimate question is 42. (according to Deep Thought)

The ultimate question, it turned out, was what is 6 * 7 (according to Earth, the child computer of Deep Thought)

jmkz
2nd November 2005, 20:14
yes tristan.. we get the reference.. but "7" still wins :)

André
2nd November 2005, 20:54
Ever tried to drive it the other way ? ;)

To be serious - again - because some doens't get the point: The Charts doesn't make any sense as long as some are cheating. With some jokers the intention of the charts are destroyed and became useless. Pity but true.

Explanation: (again)

There are some brainless without some kind of social life that can drive 24 hrs a day.
There are also some babes living in 1 house with 1 account, when the 1th 1 is tyred the other takes over and get easily, every month again, the most laps, distance, and finished races.

Unfortunately, I win easily most races, sick also, but only to proove that the sick ones are a victime of the common charts intention.

So, therefore the charts are sick and need to be re-arranged or removed !

In that way nobody can accuse me to do some 1 lap races. Yes, it's very silly that some send me very unpleasent mails so I've closed the LFS forum mail option.

When some don't like me doing start sessions, complain not to me, without those silly charts you won't even know about our fun.

Yep, let's not forget we're talking about a game here. Real life, not for all, can be sometimes not pleasant. The LFS game gives sometimes some escape and lead to real FUN with a lot of people around the globe. When you don't like the fun aspect, xxxx off plz.

jmkz
2nd November 2005, 20:56
André.. if people decide to race the Oval for long periods of time, who are you to say that they can't? the stats can not be "cheated"

if you race 1 lap races.. who cares, I don't, and many other either; the LFSworld stats are not important at all IMHO

vari
2nd November 2005, 21:00
Andre: Hide your stats using the privacy options in LFSW. Problem solved :)

Tweaker
2nd November 2005, 21:06
So this is all about stats? Geez... if you played Counter-Strike in the old days, you would know that stats are so valuable to some people when they actually mean nothing other than the fact that you try and over achieve some dumb results, equaling... yourself becoming a representation of no life or possibly a very bad addiction to the game. If someone were to mess with your stats, you get whining, crying, anger, flaming, all of that sort... and it is so absolutely childish to fight over numbers on the internet :zombie:

What matters most is having fun with this game... but if leading the statistics charts really floats your boat, go ahead.... your decisions are your own.

André
2nd November 2005, 21:13
Andre: Hide your stats using the privacy options in LFSW. Problem solved :)

I did and get nasty pm's :(

André
2nd November 2005, 21:19
So this is all about stats? Geez... if you played Counter-Strike in the old days, you would know that stats are so valuable to some people when they actually mean nothing other than the fact that you try and over achieve some dumb results, equaling... yourself becoming a representation of no life or possibly a very bad addiction to the game. If someone were to mess with your stats, you get whining, crying, anger, flaming, all of that sort... and it is so absolutely childish to fight over numbers on the internet :zombie:

What matters most is having fun with this game... but if leading the statistics charts really floats your boat, go ahead.... your decisions are your own.

Well said, though at first I saw it as some extra competition. Now I know it's not. Let's hope the whining will stop at some time and we can continue with the friendly ones I've got great fun for years now. Tnx for the view, it's really not important :)

Hoellsen
2nd November 2005, 21:32
You actually put energy in thinking about those stats? That energy is better used by just sitting on the toilet.

Gunn
2nd November 2005, 21:46
The stats can be used a tool, or a toy. They work just fine as a tool, you'll have to manage your own brand of fun if you use them as a toy.

André
4th November 2005, 21:39
You actually put energy in thinking about those stats? That energy is better used by just sitting on the toilet.

Funny, just read Gunns message and suddenly thought about toilets ;)
You're very right, and as said be4, lets put the sick ones energy in the charts, and let us have fun, as we has always. Unfortunately those sick ones kills the charts, and make the charts useless and a place where the figures just show the level of brain damage :)

WGooden
4th November 2005, 22:40
Unfortunately those sick ones kills the charts, and make the charts useless and a place where the figures just show the level of brain damage :)


rofl, true.

KiDCoDEa
4th November 2005, 23:12
the real answer andré is http://timecube.com/

André
5th November 2005, 21:12
the real answer andré is http://timecube.com/

Nah, it's all basicly about having fun. I'm sure with some severe lobotomies you can do better then 140 metres. In the mean time , with some social life, I have the fun :) Let the sick ones get the "some charts" every month again, let them show the amount of brain damage. Better would be that those charts are terminated because it leads only to misunderstandments and even to very infantile and unwanted pm's.

The corerct url :

http://www.wagenschenke.ch/HomeRun.swf

Fonnybone
6th November 2005, 17:37
There have always been people looking to get their way to be on top, no
matter what. Some of the mods i have released have conflicted with LFSworld
and any modding online, even on private servers, WILL be saved online, so
there is no integrity 'checks' for that as far as i know. I would like
to see some form of checksum protection myself so you could chose
to have 'legal' stats or 'open' stats. Of course, open stats shouldn't count
in any ranking whatsoever. Someone wanting open times ranking would
have to code his own online charts and plug in to the LFSWorld database.
I don't know if that is even possible though...

The devs have mentionned once, i believe, how the online stats were simply
for reference purpose and they couldn't garantee it's integrity. Again, there's
always someone to find a way around systems to reach their goal, in this
case, some people need the satisfaction of seeing themself on top of the
charts and use any way to acheive it, even if it includes no driving at all !!

I don't think it's about being first as much as it's about showing it to
others. Some kids have never had physical contact with their parents, or
very little and as you grow up this can become an affection deficit that is
hard to satisfy as long as it is not disgnosed. Of course, having little physical
contact doesn't mean you WILL be this way, but a general lack of attention
combined with little encouragement often does. Ok, i'm done now hehe...

André
26th November 2005, 20:06
Well said, I agree it must have to do with some level of teaching your kids how to behave in real and virtual worlds... Funny to see that the sick one and the other, who worked together in the previous months to get on top of the charts, now are split up. Maybe the sick one finally understand he is cheating ? Is it therefor he, and driving finally alone, he won't be on top this month ? Strange it is, normally he already did some 40.000 distance .... (with 2 drivers)

I think he wakes up and understand that also the charts are mentioned for fair drivers and let his friend win the distance this month.

Stil means that the charts are for the sick ones and must be closed at ones.

Hyperactive
26th November 2005, 20:59
The charts are meant for those who can put a LOT of effort on those. If that's sick - it's your opinion. You don't get fast if you don't drive a lot. It's the same with WRs. To get a WR in some track/car you need a hell of lot practise.

Please stop calling people sick just because they play LFS more than you.

If I compare myself to you - you're sick :D

th84
26th November 2005, 21:07
yea i dont understand his whole deal with the charts!! its kinda like a guy running a 2 man server and playing with his buddy all the time to get the most wins.people can play as much as they choose, that dont make them sick, just have alot of free time! imo the sick one is the one who keeps crying about it!!

André
28th November 2005, 22:39
What Is Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder?



Worries, doubts, superstitious beliefs all are common in everyday life. However, when they become so excessive such as hours of hand washing or make no sense at all such as driving around and around the block to check that an accident didn't occur then a diagnosis of OCD is made. In OCD, it is as though the brain gets stuck on a particular thought or urge and just can't let go. People with OCD often say the symptoms feel like a case of mental hiccups that won't go away. OCD is a medical brain disorder that causes problems in information processing. It is not your fault or the result of a "weak" or unstable personality.

http://www.ocfoundation.org/ocf1010a.htm

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Thread closed ?

Gunn
29th November 2005, 01:00
Stil means that the charts are for the sick ones and must be closed at ones.In our team we use the charts to good effect for measuring our improvements on a given circuits with a given car. The online stats work perfectly for this. They also keep a record of races that you have participated in. The "sick ones" are those who obsess with stats, not those that use the information in a relevant and helpful way. So you are saying people like me are sick for using this available (and helpful) tool as a racing aid in a team environment?

You are the one who is obsessed with other people's stats, so perhaps it is you who should stop using them? Andre, nobody cares what your stats are, they don't care about other people's stats either and they don't obsess over their position in the list of wannabe winners in the big race to nowhere. LFS World is a marvelous addition to our LFS experience and is not any less so for having stats updated in real time, as you drive. If you wish to compare statistics evenly you have the opportunity to submit hotlap replays to LFS World. Because all hotlaps are governed by equal conditions nobody can cry too much about the stats being unfair.

I can't see how anyone will gain respect by spending twelve hours on the oval in an FO8 stopping only to pit and pee, all for the sake of being the driver who ran the most miles for the day. Nobody cares. Leave these people behind you and get back to enjoying your racing. Treat the online stats for what they are and enjoy the useful information contained there. Many online games have stat-whores, don't let them bother you it isn't worth the headache. ;)

tristancliffe
29th November 2005, 01:29
How hard is it to look at the charts, but mentally block Andre's stats from entering your mind. That way you are happy (not seeing him), and he is happy (being sad enough to care about the stats that much).

96 GTS
29th November 2005, 01:39
I'm actually confused about this whole issue. I seem to remember a thread a while ago about people getting banned from his server because they were on teams or something? And what's the whole stats deal? A quick refresher would be nice.

AndroidXP
29th November 2005, 08:14
...I fully agree :thumbsup: Leave these people behind you and get back to enjoying your racing.And the first step to do that is to avoid the oval like the plague, period.

CI-Man
29th November 2005, 18:25
This thread is ridiculous :pillepall .
You are the one who is sick Andre for letting peoples obsession's or interest's in the stat's bother you. I mean can't you see that by your own deffinition you are also a prime candidate for OCD ? obsessed with peoples obsession's with stat's. Moaning endlessly about this on the forums is not going to get you the results your after, it just shows us how 'sick' YOU are.

th84
29th November 2005, 20:33
i dont think anything will make him happy as u can see from previous threads!! they are just charts!

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=2560

http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=217371

tristancliffe
29th November 2005, 21:42
yeah, the second one has a great reply where he admits he did the most laps, miles, wins etc on the Oval in an F08 with only his mate online....

but he's paid his £24 so he's entitled to be a complete stat freak if he wants. What do we care?

th84
29th November 2005, 21:47
What do we care?


that was my point! it seems like he is the only one who does care!!

inCogNito
29th November 2005, 22:03
let's dig this thread up every month for a good laugh! :thumb:

André
29th November 2005, 22:31
In our team we use the charts to good effect for measuring our improvements on a given circuits with a given car. The online stats work perfectly for this. They also keep a record of races that you have participated in. The "sick ones" are those who obsess with stats, not those that use the information in a relevant and helpful way. So you are saying people like me are sick for using this available (and helpful) tool as a racing aid in a team environment?

You are the one who is obsessed with other people's stats, so perhaps it is you who should stop using them? Andre, nobody cares what your stats are, they don't care about other people's stats either and they don't obsess over their position in the list of wannabe winners in the big race to nowhere. LFS World is a marvelous addition to our LFS experience and is not any less so for having stats updated in real time, as you drive. If you wish to compare statistics evenly you have the opportunity to submit hotlap replays to LFS World. Because all hotlaps are governed by equal conditions nobody can cry too much about the stats being unfair.

I can't see how anyone will gain respect by spending twelve hours on the oval in an FO8 stopping only to pit and pee, all for the sake of being the driver who ran the most miles for the day. Nobody cares. Leave these people behind you and get back to enjoying your racing. Treat the online stats for what they are and enjoy the useful information contained there. Many online games have stat-whores, don't let them bother you it isn't worth the headache. ;)



Yep, proberly you're right, I'm just talking about having FUN with a game and some don't understand that concept ....

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tristancliffe
29th November 2005, 23:18
:noob: :dnfnoob:


:bananadea

Gunn
30th November 2005, 00:10
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