Ask Questions Here [Archive]

BenjiMC

21st March 2007, 18:34

Any questions are to be asked here.

Some questions you must have an affirmative answer for before each race:

Do you know your team's number?
Do you have the server password and server name for the race?
Do you have your skins prepared with the IGTC plate displayed on all four sides?
Are you aware of how the event will proceed?

If you are unclear on any of these questions, please tell a series admin. Thanks and good luck!

Lepletier

21st March 2007, 19:23

Yes, i know my team number. Daniel told me yesterday, infact he only have the confirmation for me :P . I got the skin ready today with my friend, so Daniel and I allready have our skins done and waiting for the racing day :D . Well, i don't know what server and password. Im gonna check with Daniel when he goes online... Daniel know the race time and date, so that will be fine :P

btw, we got a teamspeak server for that race ?

If we got, can you send me the IP?

Thanks! ;)

and sorry my bad english.

racer hero

21st March 2007, 19:55

I am not sure how the event will commence so if you could explain that and also I do not what server/password..

r4ptor

21st March 2007, 19:55

Do you all know your teams number?
Do you all have the Password and server name for the race?
Do you all have your skins prepared with the IGTC plate?
Are you all aware on how the event will commence?

- Clownpaint Gaming has # 6 and 7
- Server is "[CD]Conedodgers 2" and pass is xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (same as when we did practice - haven't received other passwords)
- No :P But it will be.
- "The Qualifiying sessions are started at 19:00 UTC/GMT on the saturday lasting for 30 minutes and races start at 19:45 UTC/GMT lasting 4 hours and finishing at 23:45 UTC/GMT." :P

Kim Gripping

21st March 2007, 20:31

SWR is #4
Pass and server is like in practice, me guesses.
Skins are ready and tested.
Event will commence easy - SWR will win, eventually.

BenjiMC

21st March 2007, 20:40

Server is "[CD]2 IGTC" and pass is xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (same as when we did practice)

The Qualifiying sessions are started at 19:00 UTC/GMT on the saturday lasting for 30 minutes then there is a 15 min break races start at 19:45 UTC/GMT with a rolling start behind the SC car at 50 mph/ 80 kph (pit limiters) if you spin on the SC lap somehow, rejoin in the position you qualified in. Races last 4 hours and finish at 23:45 UTC/GMT.

TY Raptor for the framework for that post :)

Edit: there will be TS will PM you all the server IP and you all ahve seperate team channels, including if you have two teams running. e.g. there is a channel for cP1 and 2

racer hero

21st March 2007, 20:46

umm could you pm me the password again...i kinda deleted the post

Leifde

21st March 2007, 21:11

No one sent me the password :( If I'm marshalling it would help to actually be on the server :)

BenjiMC

21st March 2007, 21:14

you guys should have your PM's now

Lepletier

21st March 2007, 21:25

Thanks Benji.

;)

r4ptor

21st March 2007, 23:38

Edit: there will be TS will PM you all the server IP and you all ahve seperate team channels, including if you have two teams running. e.g. there is a channel for cP1 and 2

Thank you - we have our own TS server though, but it still may come in handy :thumb:

BenjiMC

21st March 2007, 23:40

Dont thank me, thank Falcon!:thumb:

r4ptor

21st March 2007, 23:43

Thank you Falcon :thumb::elefant:

Humbleridderen

22nd March 2007, 15:50

Do you all know your teams number? YES
Do you all have the Password and server name for the race? YES
Do you all have your skins prepared with the IGTC plate? Waiting for our skin maker to finish
Are you all aware on how the event will commence? YES

KSheppard

22nd March 2007, 18:50

unfortunately neither of the Synergy cars will be at the first event, sometimes real life gets in the way :shrug:

BenjiMC

22nd March 2007, 20:09

Thats fine. :thumbsup: hope everything gets sorted :thumb:

ShibbyMan666

23rd March 2007, 14:33

Everything is a yes, besides driver changing, will that be like a set time for change or can we change when we feel ready? Because our guys are planning on distributing changes evenly like every 1hour 20mins we switch since we are using 3 drivers.

Sorry to ask this was just looking for confirmation lol :shrug:

BenjiMC

23rd March 2007, 15:56

ye it's open, you can use team speak to organise the changeovers

Lepletier

23rd March 2007, 16:45

ye it's open, you can use team speak to organise the changeovers

Good to know, i haven't sleep well this week... last day i've been wake up for 29 hrs... ;/

I hope i can race fine in the event, god bless the racer swap :P

ShibbyMan666

23rd March 2007, 17:56

Ah great thats what we will be doing :D

Humbleridderen

23rd March 2007, 22:32

Skins and plates are fine now! :boing:

r4ptor

23rd March 2007, 23:12

Any requirements for the ingame names?

Ie. "carnumber - nickname" - or realname even?

racer hero

23rd March 2007, 23:28

Could someone turn my setup into a endurance setup I just relised tha it has no grip after 5 laps....grrrrrrrrrr im worried.

BenjiMC

23rd March 2007, 23:35

um, wasn't in the rules but yes, pleas eput your car number before your names, but you don't require the real names instead of nicknames, i see no point in that

@ racer hero, just ad some R3's it'll be fine!

S14 DRIFT

24th March 2007, 15:47

You shouldnt of told him :)

Let him do serious testing like I did ..... figure it out :D

joshdifabio

8th April 2007, 10:26

Incase any of you are interested; I have added this league to my team's event database.

You can see an overview of the league in your chosen timezone:

http://www.spdoracing.org/events/events_info.php?mode=league&id=12
http://www.spdoracing.org/events/index.php?mode=events&league_id=12

And here is an RSS feed of the league's schedule which is quite nice with firefox:

http://www.spdoracing.org/feeds/rss.php?feed=events&mode=league&id=12&tz=1.00

If you want to add to the database or ammend any of the existing items, you can do so after signing in.

Josh

BenjiMC

8th April 2007, 12:28

Thankyou, i ment to get round to doing it myself before but completly forgot:shrug:

PS. how do i use the RSS feed? it dont open in firefox...

Leifde

8th April 2007, 16:56

You're wanting my server for this race, right? :)

BenjiMC

8th April 2007, 18:35

You're wanting my server for this race, right? :)

indeed:nod:

joshdifabio

9th April 2007, 17:45

Thankyou, i ment to get round to doing it myself before but completly forgot:shrug:

PS. how do i use the RSS feed? it dont open in firefox...

You should just need to click the link.

BenjiMC

9th April 2007, 18:35

You should just need to click the link.

:shrug: thats what i did/doing and still no luck

joshdifabio

9th April 2007, 19:27

BenjiMC

9th April 2007, 20:44

What happens when you click the link and what version of Firefox do you have?

In Firefox and IE7 the feeds work fine for me on this computer and another. They are validated by the w3.org feed validator too so I don't see why it shouldn't work.

Does this feed work for you?

http://www.lfsforum.net/external.php?type=RSS2

on thatone i get this "
This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below."

on the website link to the RSS it downloads, then i open and it says select a program to open in. what should i do with it?

joshdifabio

9th April 2007, 21:18

Well, the second one is from the LFS Forum. I don't know why firefox is asking you to download the feed, you may have an old version. http://www.mozilla.com for the latest.

If you have the latest version, or don't want to upgrade, go to tools > options > feeds and select "Show me a preview..." in firefox.

BenjiMC

9th April 2007, 21:44

joshdifabio

9th April 2007, 22:01

I'll add you to msn.

r4ptor

9th April 2007, 23:48

"1) Maximum of 4 and a minimum of 2 drivers are allowed for a car in each race"

and

"3) Maximum of 4 driver changes per race per car"

I understand those, but... how many drivers can a team/car have assigned to it?

Currently cP#1 and cP#2 have 5 members assigned to each... would it be possible to have... say 6 members each?

Dunno where I got this from, but somehow I got the idea that 5 drivers are allowed to be registered.

BenjiMC

9th April 2007, 23:58

you can register however many to a car. but only 4 drivers will drive in a race maximum

r4ptor

10th April 2007, 00:01

Thanks.

Leifde

16th April 2007, 14:20

So is this starting at 8:45pm UK time? We're in daylight saving time now which is GMT+1 :shrug:

Kim Gripping

16th April 2007, 18:46

I guess it's UTC?

I hope so anyway; I'm confused about all these daylight saving times in different countries :D

BenjiMC

16th April 2007, 19:54

UTC=GMT so in daylight saving we start at GMT+1 which will be 20:00 race start is 20:45 race finish is 00:45 unless too many drivers are effected too much by daylight saving changes then this is how it's gonna be.

KSheppard

16th April 2007, 22:43

i assume the clock on the web page is king right?

BenjiMC

16th April 2007, 23:03

it sure is:D

srdsprinter

17th April 2007, 20:06

So will there be a safety car for this upcoming race? (I am confused as to what the rules include on this)

If so:
What will be the protocol (qualifying event) for its deployement?
Will the safety pick up the leader or first car immediately?
Will pitstops/driver changes be allowed under safety car?
Will the line up in race order, or in current running order?
What will the (minimum) duration of the safety car be on track?

Thanks,
Stu
LOTF

BenjiMC

17th April 2007, 22:23

So will there be a safety car for this upcoming race? (I am confused as to what the rules include on this)

If so:
1)What will be the protocol (qualifying event) for its deployement?
2)Will the safety pick up the leader or first car immediately?
3)Will pitstops/driver changes be allowed under safety car?
4)Will the line up in race order, or in current running order?
5)What will the (minimum) duration of the safety car be on track?

Thanks,
Stu
LOTF

Good questions, not really outlined in the rules:
1) a large incident involving 3 or more cars requires a safety car. The cars invloved must have a significant amount of damage which prevents them from continuing the race with safety around other drivers
2) The safety car will pick up the first car immediatly
3) pitstops, etc are allowed under safety car
4)running order
5) minimum duration will be 2 laps

srdsprinter

17th April 2007, 23:42

Thank you for the clarification. :)

MARSH2a

18th April 2007, 13:59

Good questions, not really outlined in the rules:
1) a large incident involving 3 or more cars requires a safety car. The cars invloved must have a significant amount of damage which prevents them from continuing the race with safety around other drivers
2) The safety car will pick up the first car immediatly
3) pitstops, etc are allowed under safety car
4)running order
5) minimum duration will be 2 laps

Let's chew on this some more shall we?

If a driver chooses to pit during a safety lap, he must join the grid at the back after pitting?

If a number of cars pit during a safety lap and have to catch up to the grid afterwards, do they maintain the order in which they left the pit lane?

In any case while re-joining the grid during a safety lap, are cars allowed to exceed the safety speed to catch up to the grid, without passing any other cars?

srdsprinter

18th April 2007, 14:24

One more question:

In the case of a Qualifying Event (3 car incident with damage preventing safe racing while returning to pitlane):

Will the field be Frozen at the time of safety car notification, i.e. no passing, slow down regardless of being infront/behind accident instant we are alerted to safety car?

BenjiMC

18th April 2007, 15:40

Let's chew on this some more shall we?

1)If a driver chooses to pit during a safety lap, he must join the grid at the back after pitting?

2)If a number of cars pit during a safety lap and have to catch up to the grid afterwards, do they maintain the order in which they left the pit lane?

3)In any case while re-joining the grid during a safety lap, are cars allowed to exceed the safety speed to catch up to the grid, without passing any other cars?
1) yes
2) remain in the same order as it will be full course yellow
3) yes
One more question:

In the case of a Qualifying Event (3 car incident with damage preventing safe racing while returning to pitlane):

Will the field be Frozen at the time of safety car notification, i.e. no passing, slow down regardless of being infront/behind accident instant we are alerted to safety car?

yes, you must abandon the lap and follow race safety car procedure

Leifde

18th April 2007, 15:43

He means in a race when the safety car comes out do you slow down immediately and the no passing rule comes into effect? Or are you allowed to catch up to the safety car before having to slow down and stop passing?

BenjiMC

18th April 2007, 15:46

i see, well you speed up to catch the SC but you cannot overtake unless the driver in front messes up.

srdsprinter

18th April 2007, 15:51

:) Thanks again for the clarification.

BenjiMC

18th April 2007, 16:02

thanks to you guys for firing the Q's at me, helps me define the rules better:thumb: keep em coming if you have ANY questions about the rules:thumbsup:

srdsprinter

18th April 2007, 17:42

Alright, so is this situation resolved?

1) Starts/Restarts.
Simple Solution: a Non-Racing Marshall would give (type or use one of the F-keys) a
Marshall: 3….
Marshall: 2….
Marshall: 1….
Marshall: GREEN FLAG GREEN FLAG GREEN FLAG

At which point we could disengage our pit limiters. Allowing you to see if anyone disengaged early too in replay.

2) Issuing safety car.
Is there a Non-Racing Marshall(S) who is in charge of watching the race and sending out the safety car? Ideally there will be multiple people watching various parts of the track for incidents warranting SC.
What is the notification of a Full Course Yellow, Safety Car Incident?
Again,
Marshall: YELLOW FLAG SAFETY CAR YELLOW FLAG SAFETY CAR
Would be effective in letting everyone know, “No Passing” Safety car is out.

3) Blue Flag.
From the rules, I infer that this does NOT mean “MUST YIELD POSITION”. Someone in front is allowed to Maintain their pace, keep their line. The driver Lapping has the responsibility of making a Clean Pass. Is this correct?

Thanks,
Stu

BenjiMC

18th April 2007, 19:17

srdsprinter

18th April 2007, 19:28

3) you must be predictable and allow the car lapping you to pass safely, it does not mean pull over. however you must be off the racing line.

From the rules:

8) You are allowed to unlap yourself. Please make sure that you do this safely, following section 5).

Therefore; confusion. One may race to unlap themselves, but Must yield the racing line when being lapped?

Needs clarification.

BenjiMC

18th April 2007, 23:37

if you are being caught then yeild, but if you have just unlapped yourself and are pulling away then keep pulling away

Clare B Sheppard

20th April 2007, 20:34

hey guys, I just wnat to be sure about the TS server...is it still the guess teams IP listed on the main site?...will there be channels for each team?...if so will the race marshal be able to globally broadcast?

kevin mentioned he was working on our TS server but he's got his hands pretty full these days :D

Leifde

20th April 2007, 20:43

I have a 10-man TS server. PM me to book a place for your team (there are 6 slots spare)

srdsprinter

25th April 2007, 19:06

1)it'll be "disengage limiters" then "green flag"
2) thats exactly how it's run
3) you must be predictable and allow the car lapping you to pass safely, it does not mean pull over. however you must be off the racing line.

Benji,
Firstly, good job running this so far, my one race was far from smooth, but fun none-the-less.

Sadly, I am disappointed that in our extensive discussion of the safety car policy, my team never was told the front line lapped cars being allowed to pass. It would have helped us, and everyone behind us, on Multiple Safety Car occassions.

I think this could have been an excusable application of the texting in-game, as we ended up being run into under caution, creating a clog under restarts, etc.

May I make a suggestion for the future:
Make the Safety Car a Micro-GTR or other race car. Have the SC enable Pit Limiter.

Any updates on the status of the rules-rewrite?

Thanks,

Stu

srdsprinter

23rd May 2007, 16:49

Benji - timing a little random but:

Why are teams with the same number of points not tied?

BenjiMC

23rd May 2007, 18:34

Benji - timing a little random but:

Why are teams with the same number of points not tied?

they are, just not writen tied, however if they are tied at the end of the season it'll be down to overall results i.e. more wins etc

srdsprinter

23rd May 2007, 18:42

they are, just not writen tied, however if they are tied at the end of the season it'll be down to overall results i.e. more wins etc
lol... of the 6 or so teams in ties right now, i kinda doubt any of us are going to have incongruent numbers of wins... :)

BenjiMC

23rd May 2007, 19:07

hehe, yeah, i see your point, well finishes and appearances count also. So it's better if you get to the races and finish them :thumb:

jamesrowe

30th May 2007, 15:38

hehe, yeah, i see your point, well finishes and appearances count also. So it's better if you get to the races and finish them :thumb:
This time our skin will be correct with plates ;) Made that mistake last time!

BenjiMC

30th May 2007, 16:03

remember it means front back and sides, not the roof ;)

jamesrowe

30th May 2007, 17:53

remember it means front back and sides, not the roof ;)

We did have plates on side ;) (not IGTC ones though). Is it OK to keep the number on roof also?

BenjiMC

30th May 2007, 18:53

ALSO yes, as long as you have front back and sides

BenjiMC

10th June 2007, 14:14

Additional rules have been made regarding attending the race and also qualifying laps:

14.1) Drivers seen taking short cuts to gain an advantage will have their laptimes deleted and start the race from the back of the grid

Teams must post in the clarrification thread before the race to say whether they are or are not attending.

srdsprinter

10th June 2007, 15:33

Shortcuts meaning things like the raised humps on KY3R, and more than 2 tires off the road?

BenjiMC

10th June 2007, 15:57

yes

Astro [ BJRL ]

20th June 2007, 15:45

Privateer Team #11 consist of John Holme ( Denmark ) & Kloun ( Estonia )

Plates and skin 'ON'

Figured out how event is ment to be run.

Team #11 reports: Fit For Fight

Better late than never

r4ptor

21st June 2007, 05:08

:thumb:

RudolfR

21st June 2007, 08:59

:nana:

KSheppard

8th August 2007, 20:32

When is the sign-in for round 6 gonna be posted?

BenjiMC

8th August 2007, 20:36

On Saturday :thumb:

EsCoRt RaLLy

9th August 2007, 18:59

Regarding this front and back plates thingy.. on the FXR there is so small space to place the plate at. Would it be allowed to use the IGTC logo and the number apart from eachother? See attachment for details.

// EscorT

srdsprinter

9th August 2007, 19:02

Got no idea on your question, but That Sir, is 1 Nice looking Skin!

BenjiMC

9th August 2007, 19:36

Yup. thats fine :thumb:

EsCoRt RaLLy

9th August 2007, 21:08

Ok thanks!

I havent made that skin tho, all creds to Dimo for it! :thumb:

Lotesdelere

10th August 2007, 10:54

What are the weather and wind settings used for the races ?

I found nothing about that in the rules :shrug:

r4ptor

10th August 2007, 11:16

All races have been in normal daylight/no wind condition so far.

BenjiMC

10th August 2007, 17:20

Yeah, thats how they all are. Next season I will try and make the conditions for each race the same as it is in the RL locations for each track.

Lotesdelere

10th August 2007, 17:32

OK, thanks for the answers :)

srdsprinter

12th August 2007, 01:19

LOTF #1, #2 will be attending.... oh wait... wrong thread?

BenjiMC

12th August 2007, 01:26

Sorry i was a bit late with the thread. I was on the phone. Threads up now http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=29397
:thumb:

alland44

19th August 2007, 23:09

Any questions are to be asked here, you must also clarrify these questions.

Do you all know your teams number?
Do you all have the Password and server name for the race?
Do you all have your skins prepared with the IGTC plate?
Are you all aware on how the event will commence?

If you dont know any of these or dont have any of these, please tell me. If all is clear then post here and tell me so.

Hope to see you'se all racing on the day!

Good Luck to all!:thumb:

I would like to know, if bumperdrafting is allowed on the oval, next time :)

I certainly do not consider that racing, and I will not participate, if that`s allowed :)

BenjiMC

20th August 2007, 10:07

See this (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=525961#post525961) post.

srdsprinter

20th August 2007, 18:14

I feel confident you are already working on this; however:

Will rules be implemented on what to do in case of catastrophic server failure in the future?

At one point, an admin had stated that if a crash occurred mid-race, the race would be moved to the next weekend. We almost ran into issues after the crash, keeping our teamates informed.

Also, apologies from LOTF to the SR team, who appeared to loose 2 spots before the start of the 3 hour race. We have never had server failures like that before, and we are working with our Server host provider to try and identify what went wrong.

Lotesdelere

21st September 2007, 14:41

Sorry but I have a question about the new rules:

G - 2.1) During a driver change, the incoming driver may only join the server once the team car is on its in-lap
I thought we said that it would be 2 laps for the Oval race ?
One lap is way too short on this track IMO.

DeadWolfBones

21st September 2007, 15:11

Sorry but I have a question about the new rules:

I thought we said that it would be 2 laps for the Oval race ?
One lap is way too short on this track IMO.

Ah, yes. Thanks for catching that.

Round 7 Rules Revisions thread has been updated with a post on special oval rules. I'm not incorporating these into the final rules because it seems likely at this point that there will be no oval race next season.

Lotesdelere

21st September 2007, 16:56

Round 7 Rules Revisions thread has been updated with a post on special oval rules.
Thanks :thumb:

BTW, as staten in this post:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=557652#post557652
ConeDodgers teams do NOT want to do bump drafting with any other team.
We consider bump drafting as some kind of wrecking and we reserve the right to lodge an objection if we are bumped by any other car.

R.Kolz

22nd September 2007, 09:07

How about teams/cars use their alarm indicator ( Num 8 ):

ON = to bump daft is ok with me.

OFF = NO bump drafting with me pls..

Regards [TDRT] R.Kolz

BenjiMC

22nd September 2007, 12:15

How about teams/cars use their alarm indicator ( Num 8 ):

ON = to bump daft is ok with me.

OFF = NO bump drafting with me pls..

Regards [TDRT] R.Kolz

Thanks for that. Good advice. I'd advise that teams do this.

Leifde

6th October 2007, 16:49

This next event - Aston North - is on the 20th October. My fellow cows are coming to my house that day and we're planning to do the race here. We'd be doing it on one PC with one LFS account, is that alright? (We'd change the racername at driver changes)

BenjiMC

6th October 2007, 17:10

Yes thats okay. We just need to know when you change over sosince you have that sorted it's fine.

srdsprinter

20th October 2007, 01:31

Um, one for the US here:

18:00 Qual = 2:00 PM EDT

I'm fairly sure.

BenjiMC

20th October 2007, 12:05

yes, afaik it is.

R.Kolz

20th October 2007, 13:39

IGTC rule no.6 :
"Drivers must remain between the pit exit lines when exiting the pits, under all circumstances."

Are you still "between" the yellow line when you touch them but not fully cross them? What about the pit entrance?
We´d like to have some general rule clarification pls.

As for the IGTC AS7 track layout:

It´s a very tricky pit exit.

I dont like the tyres at pit exit. One of them is positioned on the yellow line and additionally if a car hits these tyres there is a slight chance for the tyres to end on the racing track.
I´d rather see 2 or 3 wall-units there.They should be placed right on the yellow pit exit lines so that it would be impossible to get a penalty at the pit exits.

BenjiMC

20th October 2007, 13:47

The rule is the same as in F1, you cant touch the yellow lines. Pit entrance does not matter as much as long as drivers make it clear that they are pitting in rather than cutting across other competitors.

The tyre that sticks out is a default tyre. Nothing i can do.

R.Kolz

20th October 2007, 14:16

Thanks.
I forgot that even in singleplayer mode it automatically loads the modded track layout ( not in hotlapping mode ).Thanks for clarification on the rules.
Most likely the tyres will stay where they belong... :scratchch I hope.

alland44

20th October 2007, 15:06

What time does the race start (UTC time)

On the danish forum, there is different messages about this !?

DeadWolfBones

20th October 2007, 15:15

What time does the race start (UTC time)

On the danish forum, there is different messages about this !?

Race starts at 18:45 UTC, qual at 18:00.

alland44

20th October 2007, 15:23

Race starts at 18:45 UTC, qual at 18:00.

Where did you find that piece of information ??

BranislavS

20th October 2007, 15:24

Where did you find that piece of information ??

last post http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=32258

alland44

20th October 2007, 16:09

last post http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=32258

So you have to look way down, in a thread, to find out !??
Nobody thougth that information was important enough, to get a sticky ?

Are you sure that all the teams, have that information ?

BenjiMC

20th October 2007, 16:19

It's been there for a good few weeks now and there was a pretty long discussion about it.

alland44

20th October 2007, 23:01

It's been there for a good few weeks now and there was a pretty long discussion about it.

Not enough then :)
Such an important matter, should have been sent to all the teamleaders. Just my opinnion :)

R.Kolz

21st October 2007, 00:04

srdsprinter

21st October 2007, 00:15

I had the same question as well, but its an established MOE rule as well.

You have the ability to bypass a driver-change pitstop and save a Lot of time by reconnecting with a new driver.

Basically its just to ensure equality amoung all the teams.

rcpilot

21st October 2007, 00:40

IGTC No.3:

"In order to avoid a penalty, a driver who loses connection for any reason prior to a driver change must reconnect and re-join the race. If another driver takes over the car before the original driver reconnects, the team will be assessed a LL penalty in the final standings."

After almost 4 hours of racing I just can´t think clear anymore but somehow I understand your point/motivation to do so. :tilt:

Pls. explain it to me. :shrug:
It's as Stu explained. I don't completely agree with it, if someone gains an advantage from it they should get a penalty from it, but being near the end of a lap and getting disconnected then getting a penalty is like a slap in the face.

srdsprinter

21st October 2007, 00:52

Humbleridderen

21st October 2007, 00:53

It's as Stu explained. I don't completely agree with it, if someone gains an advantage from it they should get a penalty from it, but being near the end of a lap and getting disconnected then getting a penalty is like a slap in the face.

Right, It´s not a very accurate and proportioned thing to do. It should be more precise. It should only be for those, who disconnect and enter in almost the same seconds and not for those, who have a normal disconnect. There´s a difference. :scratchch

rcpilot

21st October 2007, 00:56

srdsprinter

21st October 2007, 00:57

-> to Humble

Yea, but then as I said, it becomes a judgement call. Judgement calls are a bad idea in 99% of situations, and should be avoided like the plague.

You guys had the same chance to read the rules as everyone else. While it does suck, and its particularly rough, its the same for everyone.

Humbleridderen

21st October 2007, 00:57

Its best to make black-and-white rules where ever its possible to do so.

Because there is the potential for advantage to be gained, its best to have a rule to uniformly deal with it. Judgement calls always end up razzing people, black-and-white rules are fair for everone.

This avoids unpleasant situations like the SC instance we had earlier today :thumb:

Understand the opinion, but it´s too hard I think. There´s a huge diffence of getting a LL on Aston Historic than Aston Cadet for example. Could be better if it was just like 30 or 45 seconds for example.

Hm..actually, I think My other opinion in the previous post is better. It should only count for those, where the change of drivers is going very fast, so it must be planned somehow.

srdsprinter

21st October 2007, 00:59

Perhaps. I think time pentalties are a good idea, something to perhaps look into for next season.

MARSH2a

21st October 2007, 04:27

I got a question

BenjiMC

21st October 2007, 14:37

It was estimated before and there were complaints so it's not gonna change back to how it was or there will be complaints :shrug:.

srdsprinter

21st October 2007, 14:45

No Protest thread?

R.Kolz

21st October 2007, 15:58

I´ll for sure open one if there isn´t one.. :really:

srdsprinter

21st October 2007, 15:58

there is one now. :)

R.Kolz

21st October 2007, 16:31

Going to be a movie maker:

Feel free to see my first one:

Title : "What´s the rush all about".

See attached file.

alland44

21st October 2007, 20:18

In the danish forum, somebody told me about complaints against my car (#12 from dba) I can`t see any complaints - Can you !?

nmanley

21st October 2007, 20:19

Going to be a movie maker:

Feel free to see my first one:

Title : "What´s the rush all about".

See attached file.

Damn good point. I see bumping of cars at every event due to trying to put heat in the tires and such. Everyone needs to give a lot more space to do this than there is being given.

The tires are warmed up in a lap or less at race speed.
How much is it worth to screw up your or someone elses event by stupid crap like this. GROW UP PEOPLE! :really:

nmanley

21st October 2007, 20:21

Complaint is on the 21 car in objections thread. Blue flag incident.

bdshan

22nd October 2007, 13:46

Going to be a movie maker:

Feel free to see my first one:

Title : "What´s the rush all about".

See attached file.

Rookie SC driver who would rather have been racing instead.:D

R.Kolz

23rd October 2007, 09:45

Is there a a nice person inhere willing to translate the IGTC-ruleset in German or Danish?

I don´t understand rules E and H anymore. I now have spent a lot of time and I still don´t understand these rules the way they are right now.

Comment BenijMC:
"Just for clarification, The 2 car rule is for when your NOT on your pit limiters. As soon as the "Fall in line, Pit limiters on" message is displayed your supposed to fall in line, bunch up and activate pit limiters, thus 2 cars is no longer in force. You can try to bunch up by de-activating the pit limiter BRIEFLY however."
and:
"Secondly my post above as a reply to John Holme is wrong, you are meant to keep the 2 car gap when on pit limiters."

Comment banshee56:
"We were told over Ventrilo by Benji, that we could disengage the Pit Limiters if we needed to regulate the gap."

E. RACE START CONDUCT

*snip*

H. SAFETY CAR / FULL-COURSE YELLOW CONDUCT

*snip*

rules here: http://www.freewebs.com/lfsgtseries/rules.htm

DeadWolfBones

23rd October 2007, 13:03

1. Benji's two comments negate each other.

2. Banshee's comment indicates that Benji told the teams on Vent that they could briefly disengage limiters to maintain the 2-car gap (see rule 1.2). This would be the two CoRe teams. It was the more expedient way to inform them (rather than typing in-game) but it may not have been technically correct.

MARSH2a

23rd October 2007, 19:02

When will the next season start?

DeadWolfBones

23rd October 2007, 19:12

We are eyeing a February start date.

Over the next month or so Benji and I are going to be drafting up our plan for season 2, as well as the rules adjustments, and I hope to have those ready by the 1st of the new year.

KSheppard

25th October 2007, 13:55

When will the next season start?
Have I missed the final announcements for this season :(

BenjiMC

25th October 2007, 21:33

Nope, they will come, i have done them just not written them up yet because my week which was MEANT to be a school holiday is no longer a holiday.

srdsprinter

2nd January 2008, 03:53

Hey dudes, love all the work been done! :thumb:

I was just wondering what the status of the rules on the IGTC webpage is, particularly if the points allotments are finalized (staying the same as last year)?

Anywho, great work, looking forward to seeing you all on a (cloudy) Blackwood!

DeadWolfBones

2nd January 2008, 03:59

Hi Stu. Rules will be updated to 2008 Season spec by the end of the month (probably much sooner). The points system will be receiving a makeover. :)

srdsprinter

2nd January 2008, 04:04

Hi Stu. Rules will be updated to 2008 Season spec by the end of the month (probably much sooner). The points system will be receiving a makeover. :)
Fantastic, and thanks for the quick reply :)

BenjiMC

2nd January 2008, 04:43

Just to make things clearer. Everything on the site is up to date apart from the rules section. Downloads page has just been completed.

AstroBoy

3rd January 2008, 05:04

I have a questions.

What do the rules state if a person fries there clutch, are they aloud to spend time in the pits waiting for it to cool down? or is it an instant retirement?

Sitting in the pits that is if they can make it there.

DeadWolfBones

3rd January 2008, 05:27

Overheated clutch is certainly not an instant DQ. A driver whose clutch has overheated should limp back to the pits if it's severe or continue at a slower pace if it's not so bad.

[UKR] Race King

3rd January 2008, 14:02

can some1 tell me how much is the duration of each race?

AstroBoy

3rd January 2008, 14:05

Race King;659658']can some1 tell me how much is the duration of each race?

4 hours

You can also consult here -> http://www.freewebs.com/lfsgtseries/rules.htm for more info

DeadWolfBones

3rd January 2008, 14:14

Please note that the rules are in the process of being updated for the 2008 season and should be posted shortly.

However, Astro is correct on this one. Four hours per race.

srdsprinter

5th January 2008, 03:08

Hi guys :wave:

quick Q: Will the LFS Global Balancing of the GTR's still be the IGTC balance a la 2007?

Thanks :thumb:

|||Stu

or

S3R Stu

or

|||S.Duff

DeadWolfBones

5th January 2008, 03:10

Hi guys :wave:

quick Q: Will the LFS Global Balancing of the GTR's still be the IGTC balance a la 2007?

Thanks :thumb:

|||Stu

or

S3R Stu

or

|||S.Duff

We're discussing this at the moment. I'm going to be keeping a close eye on how it goes in the 24hr MoE race that's coming up on the 19th, as that should be a pretty definitive test of how well balanced the cars are.

After that, if it looks good we'll roll with it. If not, we'll look into balancing.

srdsprinter

5th January 2008, 04:31

We're discussing this at the moment. I'm going to be keeping a close eye on how it goes in the 24hr MoE race that's coming up on the 19th, as that should be a pretty definitive test of how well balanced the cars are.

After that, if it looks good we'll roll with it. If not, we'll look into balancing.
Haha, that's what our team's been doing as well. You know what they say about great minds don't you.

Anyway, good luck to you guys in the 24, and look forwards to hear what you guys come up with.

BenjiMC

5th January 2008, 05:39

Although, the XRR does have an extra 20-25 mins of fuel in the tank.

Will see how the 24 hr plays out. Should be exciting to see what the tyres say about it on the day.

Gil07

7th January 2008, 22:23

Hm, what will happen to the FXR now the MoE guys have figured out this:

At this point it is already clear, as also indicated in several posts on the forums, that in the GT1 class the FXR is way off pace. Given only one team is using the FXR we have decided that the Serbian Racing Team is allowed to change their car, rather than including the FXR in the balance issues and making the balancing issues too complex.

DeadWolfBones

7th January 2008, 22:39

Hm, what will happen to the FXR now the MoE guys have figured out this:

We'll obviously have to engage in some balancing of our own. You'll be hearing about it in the near future.

Gil07

7th January 2008, 22:44

It's a bit strange that, when the class was well balanced with patch X, suddenly they've made it uneven again in Y :confused:

DeadWolfBones

7th January 2008, 23:16

It's a bit strange that, when the class was well balanced with patch X, suddenly they've made it uneven again in Y :confused:

FXR was definitely a bit off as well in X.

Also, the MoE talk isn't gold in my book (I know that's odd to hear from me since I'm a MoE admin). [[edit: ...in that I'm not certain it's that far off the pace as it hasn't been extensively tested by the faster guys in the league.]]

We'll see how it shakes out.

Gil07

7th January 2008, 23:21

Yep, seems like a good idea :tilt:

srdsprinter

7th January 2008, 23:23

It's a bit strange that, when the class was well balanced with patch X, suddenly they've made it uneven again in Y :confused:
Despite using the Global Balancing as dictated by LFS, there was no shortage of FXR's last season, througout the balancing process (even when not ultimately competive). Ultimately I believe your team picks the car they most like/can do the best in. In MOE, that mostly rules out the FXR. In IGTC, many teams could compete at their best with a slightly slower car. Just my $.02

N I K I

14th January 2008, 09:40

IMO it's good that FXR is off the pace.

That car is really easier to drive than RWD's !
If you ask me, it should stay unbalanced and off the pace, so that motivates ppl to chose real endu car, or if they're just starting with endu or gtr's than chose FXR :shrug:

james12s

16th January 2008, 21:33

the exact ukct shose the fxr was that it was the easiest to drive over a long distance and everyone was comfortable driving

dawesdust_12

17th January 2008, 00:54

I'd pick FZR, but everyone else is a little girl, so I had to make/throw useless input into a setup that atleast drove a bit aggressively.

SamH

17th January 2008, 00:59

I'd pick FZR, but everyone else is a little girl, so I had to make/throw useless input into a setup that atleast drove a bit aggressively.
I wanted to choose FZR too.. I do okay in that, now that I have some Patch Y setups for it. I think it's looking like an FXR for us, though.

dawesdust_12

17th January 2008, 01:00

Which is fine, I'll just make sure to run over some more pedestrians tonight, and then I'll be fine to drive the FXR.

james12s

17th January 2008, 11:26

lol, the thing is is it better to yhave 2 drivers who a quick in the fzr and the rest are quite slow and not comfortable of a compromise with the fxr that everyone can handle and ok to drive and is more comfortable in

Dru

17th January 2008, 13:14

can you not just run your 2 quick FZR guys for the 4 hour race? ie 2 hours each?

srdsprinter

23rd January 2008, 00:13

Hey IGTC dudes... I hate to be the perpetual ninnie (:(), but i'm guessing everyone here is wondering what the word on car balancing will be...

Thanks! :thumb:

BenjiMC

23rd January 2008, 00:40

:)

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=685294#post685294

StableX

28th January 2008, 16:55

the FXR is definately the easier car to drive out of the GTR's. It's usually what new people will drive until they feel comfortable driving the faster FZR and XRR. It does depend on the track though.

james12s

30th January 2008, 14:10

soz for the late reply but the aim with ukct is to include as many of the team as possible, it may mean we dont do as well, mainly cos im on the team, but it is more of a team thing then

dawesdust_12

30th January 2008, 20:42

Or we can have 2 teams, have the Dustin+Sam FZR team (UKCT BLUE POWAH!), and the rest of the ninnys? :p

srdsprinter

31st January 2008, 14:53

Drivers,

If the signup list is not full by February 9th, we will open registration to multi-car teams. Once multi-car registration is opened, it will be conducted on a first come, first served basis.

Thanks!

.... :)

srdsprinter

25th March 2008, 01:25

QUESTION IMPORTANTO:

Will there be a layout for the track regarding Pit In / Pit Out? If so this could be usefull asap!

Thanks,

Stu Duff
S3Racing

BenjiMC

25th March 2008, 12:41

Pretty much the same as last year. This time i just added some posts and white lines to make it clear. Also note the white lines across the track represent where the green flag will be shown.

DeadWolfBones

25th March 2008, 14:05

And to clarify, when the rules state that you must wait at pit exit when the pit exit is closed, they mean the blend line exit and not the speed limiter exit.

srdsprinter

25th March 2008, 14:41

Does this mean once the SC has left the pits, or has passed the pits (after a complete lap)?

This really will need to be called out by an admin when the cars may exit I think.

3.1) Once the SC has passed the pit exit, it is closed. Pitting drivers must form a queue at pit exit and wait until all on-track drivers have passed before exiting the pits and joining the SC queue. As prescribed by rule K2, you may not pass another car after exiting the pits. If successfully protested post-race, this infraction will receive a C1 penalty.

DeadWolfBones

25th March 2008, 14:43

Does this mean once the SC has left the pits, or has passed the pits (after a complete lap)?

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=739413#post739413

An admin will call it out.

We're also working on an insim app that will display at all times the track condition/pit status.

DeadWolfBones

25th March 2008, 20:28

And to clarify, when the rules state that you must wait at pit exit when the pit exit is closed, they mean the blend line exit and not the speed limiter exit.

Ignore this... with the advent of the new insim app, the pit exit is the actual pit exit, not the blend line.

Thanks.

nmanley

26th March 2008, 00:43

Pretty much the same as last year. This time i just added some posts and white lines to make it clear. Also note the white lines across the track represent where the green flag will be shown.

Forgive my LFS ignorance but how do you use this file "KY2_IGTC08.lyt" to look at the track. Never know if I don't ask. :nod:

Never mind I did a little looking around and found it. :shrug: