Rate Your Driving.

[operator0]

I was looking at another thread and got to thinking about what makes good racers. Here's my take:

Three things need to be mastered in order to win all of the races you participate in. Sadly, only a very few drivers are almost perfect in all three.

1) Line. This constitutes the area on the track your car needs to be to obtain a good time. Other factors include brake points and throttle up points. The perfect line will ultimately get you the best lap time possible, all else being equal.

2)Consitancy. It makes no difference if the race is five laps, or the race is 30 laps. Being consistant over the whole race will generaly net you a good finishing position. To acheive consitancy, two things must be obtained. Excelent car control and a somewhat stable setup.

3)Race craft. The ability to race in a group of cars and weed your way to the front of that group without causing any incidents. Good race craft is admired by all.


Now that you know the three things I consider equaly important to winning a race, please rate yourself on a scale of 1-10 (decimals can be used) in each of the catagories. Be honest. And in order to obtain some semblance of honesty, other racers are allowed to critique other's self rating, but only after they have given an honest rating of themselves. Also, don't critique someone who you've only raced against a few times.

My ratings:

Line: 5
Consitancy: 9
Racecraft: 8

Overall: 7.3

[Hyperactive]

Line: 7
Consitancy: 7
Racecraft: 4

Overall: 6.000

I think I'm pretty good in passing people but I don't think I'm good enough to defend my positions, all doors and windows open: pass me, pass me! And I have a bad day in racing in 9/10 of days :) But I'm learning - let's give that an 8!

[Bob Smith]

What about 4) Power sliding showing-off boastability? :D

Line: I dunno, not perfect but certainly not bad. I think it's tough to rate one's self. Once I've watched a WR replay: 7
Consistency: Well that depends on how much I'm pushing. During a 5 lapper I'm likely to come off, but on long races I just settle into the groove and see where I finish (not that I drive slow, but only 100% instead of 110). If I've practised enough: 8
Racecraft: I try, but it will never work without co-operation unless the track is particularly wide. 8

Overall: 7.7

[JamesF1]

Line: 5
Consistency: 8
Racecraft: 6
Overall: ~6.5

I just need to work on my line really. I can't do a lot about racecraft, as I frequently experience lag, which just makes close racing nigh-on impossible!

[tristancliffe]

Line: 7.5
Consistency: 5.5 (but rapidly improving, at the slight expense of outright pace in races at the moment)
Racecraft: 9
Pace: 7 (recent drop from 7.5, due to concentrating on consistency rather than pb's)

Overall (with 4 categories): 7.25.

Meh, I'm all sad now, cos I feel much more competative that 7.25 sounds. Obviously I spin far too much at the moment desperately trying to go faster!

[Batterypark]

Line: 3
Consistency: 2
Racecraft: 2

Overall 2.33

[Qurpiz]

1. I'm usually all around the track. It takes many many laps before you can notice some sort of lines in my driving. 3

2. Consistantly slow. But sometimes REALLY slow. 5

3. This is probably the only thing I consider myself good at. If by Racecraft you mean avoiding accidents, too. I take it really seriously not to collide anyone because of my mistakes. The result, I brake reaally soon, and I keep a fair distance to every direction. I also try to overtake cleanly, but I'm so slow that I never get to overtake. 8

5,33333

I guess I was a bit too critical....

[operator0]

Since others are giving explenations as to why they rated themselves the way they do (which is an excelent addition to the topic), allow to do the same.


I think I run an above abverage line most of the time. However, I run far more poor lines than I do really good lines. Therefor, my lines are generaly average. Constancy is one of my strong points I feel. In 100 races, I only have slef inflicted offs that cause more than two or three seconds time maybe handfull of times out of 500 laps. When I mess up, it's hardly ever worth noticing, almost always costs me far less than a second. Racecraft. I sometimes have a hard time getting around guys I havn't raced a bunch with, or guys who have simmilar lap times to me. Sometimes I'm not aggressive enough on the pass. I feel that I defend my position almost perfectly though.

[axus]

Line: 7.5 - I am able to get a lot out of a car and get within a second of the world record quite quickly, however getting the last bit out is not so easy.
Consistency: 5.5 - I struggle to keep my concentration during long races if I am not surrounded by other racers.
Racecraft: 7 - I think I know how to overtake and be overtaken during a race while avoiding an incident. If I am familliar with the person I am racing's driving style we generally get quite a good race going.

Overall: 6.67

[ayrton senna 87]

:)

[Rumiko]

There's always luck factor involved in any race, hardware issues (wheel, pedals, fps, etc.), pit strategy (Endurance League), it's definitely not just 3 things which define a winner IMO...

I usually have most trouble with consistancy though.

[bbman]

Line: 5
My line don't differ much from the good ones... I just sometimes get too far outside and have to slow down to get into the line again... And I seem to drive way too slow... :shrug:

Consistency: 7
Most times I stick to my line and my times are pretty much the same (within one second)... Unless I miss the braking point again... :D

Racecraft: 5
I try to stay away from others to not hit them... Sometimes it's just inevitable... :shrug: But I tend to get very nervous when someone is just behind me and waiting to pass me...

Overall: 5.8

What should I say? Got my license just last month, maybe it gets better... :)

[operator0]

There's always luck factor involved in any race, hardware issues (wheel, pedals, fps, etc.), pit strategy (Endurance League), it's definitely not just 3 things which define a winner IMO...

I usually have most trouble with consistancy though.

Yeah, but the three most important things that you can control are those. It sucks when some newbie pits out right in front of you then proceeds to block your attemted pass down the back straight, but there's little one can do about it. Think of this excersize as one in which you and ten guys you feel comfortable racing with are on a closed server. Guys you know aren't going to do something stupid, like drafting you down the back straight on BL1, then ten feet before you get to the brake zone, they swerve over in front of you, leaving only inches between your front bumper and thier back bumper, and then throw the anchor out, causing you to tap their rear end which causes you to go a little out of control, then you lose four seconds on the pack of five cars you've been racing with for three laps in a five lap race. All that of course means that you don't finish in a respectable position and the replay isn't as good as it could have been and then after you lightly chastise the guy for doing it, he backtalks you like it's your fault he decided to do something stupid.

You know Rumiko, it's been over a year and I'm still a little bitter. Can you tell?

[snewham]

Line: 6.5
Consitancy: 7
Racecraft: 8

Overall: 7.2

[Michael Miskella]

Line: 4
Consitancy: 7
Racecraft: 9

Overall: 6.666

at best i'd say thats true of consistancy and maybe a bit more for line depending on experience with a car/track :P

[Batterypark]

Off topic, but you people seem very inconsistent in spelling "consistency" :)

[NotAnIllusion]

Line: 6
Consistency: 6
Racecraft: 8

I can't get my acceleration points correct most of the time, so that's a -ve..

Can get good laps, sometimes 5 back to back but under pressure for several laps my consistency crumbles :)

I think I'm quite capable of driving in a pack, T1 is never a problem really and I'm a fair but intelligent (or am I?) driver :P

[Michael Miskella]

Off topic, but you people seem very inconsistent in spelling "consistency" :) copy+paste FTW!

[Renku]

I don't get the "line" part, and the "speed" category is kinda missing :shrug:.

Speed/Line or whateva "5"
Consistency "1"
Racecraft "3"
--------------------------
Overall "3"

[JohnPenn]

Line: dictated by the driver in front or behind
Consistency: All over the shop
Race craft: I use mirrors all the time and act accordingly.
Spelling: very bad

john

[sinbad]

A high consistency rating isn't much use if your "line" rating is poor, not that, as Renku suggests, the right line is much use if you're still 5 seconds off the pace.

Renku's far too modest btw :)

I suggest replacing the first two categories with "Average Pace", and "Ultimate/Potential Pace" (this being how fast you are when you've done what you considered to be a really good lap), with the wr pace being the benchmark.

[ayrton senna 87]

i think how fast you adapt to a certain track/car is important, some guys take say 200 laps to get a decent time, where as sinbads can turn up, and get a good time on their 2nd lap.

[_Rob_]

Line: 6
Consitancy: 6
Racecraft: 9

Overall: 7

Looks about right to me... I seem to be able to get to the front of the pack pretty quickly, and am generally a good (if rather aggressive) overtaker. Not the most consistent sometimes, but other times I can be.

A good point by Will there... I think I apply more to quick learner side - I can do a car/track and get a good time very quickly (but it then takes a lot more laps to lower the time significantly :))

[P5YcHoM4N]

Hmmm, nit pick my own driving.

Line: 3-4
Depends how well I know the track, a track I play a lot I'm pretty good at, a new track to me, I usally take around 10 laps to find my feet.
Consistency: 3-5
When I'm racing for a PB, or trying to keep up with someone way faster then me, I usally put out one or two good laps, then push too hard, and fly off. When I just try to follow the race line I do much better. Like some rally guy said (I forget who, he drives a subbie.) "If you try and drive fast, you will not go fast, being smooth and clean will make you fast."
Just a shame I can never follow what people say very well.
Race craft: 1
I can usally pass pretty well, but if anyone is behind me I never know what to do, so I usally fly off the track somewhere as I can't take pressure very well, and I hate trying to double guess where someone is going.
Overall: 3.

Oh yeah :P

[sinbad]

Not the most consistent sometimes, but other times I can be.

Haha good one! :)

[_Rob_]

:D
I mean sometimes I can do a whole normal race with consistent laptimes etc, no mistakes. Other times I'm constantly making mistakes, laptimes all over the place.

[the_angry_angel]

Line: 3
Consitancy: 3
Racecraft: 1

Overall: 2.333..

[operator0]

A high consistency rating isn't much use if your "line" rating is poor, not that, as Renku suggests, the right line is much use if you're still 5 seconds off the pace.

The reverse can be said too. A guy who is very quick wont win many races if he spins off the track once in every five laps.


I suggest replacing the first two categories with "Average Pace", and "Ultimate/Potential Pace" (this being how fast you are when you've done what you considered to be a really good lap), with the wr pace being the benchmark.

I did it this way. Lets take AS NAT using the GTR cars as an example; Lets say that a normal lap for me is a 1:44.90, a really good lap is 1:44.60 and a poor lap is a 1:45.30. Lets just say I run a 44.90 lap 60% of the time, run a 44.60 lap 10% of the time and run a 45.30 lap 30% of the time. I figure that averages out to a 1:45.0x lap. Compared to the guys I race against, I think that's only average. In figuring out these laps, I throw out things like being punted off the track and bad mistakes on my part that would throw me off the track. I'm purely looking at how fast my line is on an unmolested lap. I figure the consistancy score can take care of my bad mistakes.

[Gunn]

I think that cornering technique is equally as important as line. This also encompasses braking and throttle skill (techniques, braking points, timing) which is also an area where many racers could improve their lap times, their line, their consistency and their racecraft.

On the subject of racecraft, I understand you have offered a general definition, but racecraft does not neccessarily mean finding your way to the front of the pack. All drivers, fast or slow, should be mindful of where they are in relation to other cars and be able to contest the race fairly and cleanly without making stupid decisions or actions. The ability to be overtaken cleanly by a faster car falls under the category of racecraft too, for example.

[Racer Y]

hi.

@ Operator0 - Good thread dude! :)

Uh line....i dunno probably a twoish something or another. I don't know any of the new tracks enough to run a line that's effeicient enough to be satisfied with.
I.E. not fast enough. A 2

Consistancy? I don't understand that one. I consistantly get about the same lap times, until I find a better way... A 3(?)

Race craft... unless I'm around you operator0, i usually don't mess up too bad lol
I'm slow as molasses, but I take pride in the fact that I can usually skate through the first turn screw ups at aston nat. with ease so, I'd say a 5.
So add that up and divide by three... 3 1/3rd

[Lola Popeye]

Line: Like most people here, still 'relatively' in experienced with S2 tracks, that is compared with classics like Blackwood where i know every atom of the track....:D
So I say: 5

Consistency: Not very good, until I did a 3 hour enduro, taught me alot about rhythm and setting a nice pace, so maybe 7 (ofcourse does not apply whille learning configs)

Racecraft: 10 for the slower cars (XF,UF1000) and 2 for fast cars (GTR's), I am very good at passing, and also driving defensively, while at the same time not causing any danger or being unfair. But with the GTR's and the fact i use mouse, I find it hard when changing lanes, as the mouse is nowhere near as 'stable' as a wheel, meaning i usually start drifting left or right and yea, so overall for all cars i get 6 :D

Overall: 6 :D

[nikimere]

definitely a 12/10 on everything!! lol! :p

[sinbad]

The reverse can be said too. A guy who is very quick wont win many races if he spins off the track once in every five laps.

Of course. :)

I was just pointing out that the value of consistency depends entirely on how fast you are on average, and not neccessarily just on how close to your best time you get with each lap.
10/10 for consistency might win you races, but only if you're competitive speed-wise. Just as a good line is only of use if your end laptime is genuinely fast, and a good line does not automatically equal a fast time.

[Lola Popeye]

i can get 10/10 lines and 10/10 consistency with the pit limiter :D

[B2B@300]

I would rate myself about 4.5 for all categories, hence a 4.5 overall :P

Edit: - on more thought maybe Line - 3.5, cons. - 5.5, racecraft - 4.5

[ajp71]

Line: 3
Consitancy: 8
Racecraft: 6

Overall: 5

I'm not fast, usually about 2 seconds a lap off pace, but my laps are consistant and I find I tend to do well in races.

[mrodgers]

i can get 10/10 lines and 10/10 consistency with the pit limiter :D
Would you rate Racecraft as a 0 then? :)

Me, I can't really rate myself. It's better for someone else to rate you. But here goes.

Line: 7. A tough one. It takes me a long time to get my PB times to competitive levels. I think it is more a setup issue than line. I can pick up the line pretty quick and run it consistantly, but I stink at setups, so until I get a good one that suits me from someone the line doesn't help me at all. Once I get a setup to my liking, I start to be able to put the car anywhere I want and make it a good line. ex. in demo at Blackwood in the GTi. After 2 months of demo I finally reached the low 1:36's, but S2 was released just before I broke 1:35's. I considered low 1:36's pretty good back then. At that point I was able to put my car anywhere to make passes or avoid spins, etc. and still get a decent time. Until I do this though, I can run the perfect line, just not competitively.

Consistency: 3. I'll hit myself pretty good with this one. Again as above it takes me forever to get my times down to fairly fast status. This is not due to setup, it is due to my braking. I brake early, late, lockup, I just simply really stink at braking. It causes me a lot of spins or missed turn-ins giving me 5 second differences in laptimes in a 5-10 lapper. I can run a 2:00 at Aston Nat. one lap, and pop off a PB the next (which I'm stuck at a very low 1:47 at the moment). It wasn't until recently that I began to figure out braking without locking up. I always would set my brakes up to not lock at 100% braking. This leads to my inconsistency. Now I am working on using more braking force in the setup and trying to use 80, 70%, whatever is needed, on the pedal. The last few nights I've started to brake much later, much more forceful without locking up or missing turn-in points. I found myself actually slowing too much for a corner lately with a much later braking.

Racecraft: 3-7. I give this one a range. I start out with a low rating because I rarely race anyone. This meaning if I see you flying up behind me, I am more likely to just take the turn wide and let you by. If I am the faster one needing to pass, often I will wuss out as I get up beside someone unless I can just blast past. But on the other side, if you look at wrecking, beating and banging on others, etc. I do everything I can to race you clean. I use the pitspotter mod, which I think everyone should use, and think I could race the entire track 2 wide leaving you room if you would do the same for me (of course, not in the tight chicanes like the end of Aston or the Historic corkscrew).

[MyBoss]

Line: 8 -
Consitancy: 6.5
Racecraft: 8 -
Pace:8

[StanleyCarter]

Line: 7
Well, I know the line pretty well, the problem is my cornering skills (or trying so freakin hard to keep the car straight), my braking, corner exiting are pretty messy I can say, especially the rwd cars, I'm very used to oversteering so clearing a corner is not too hard, but its a matter of how fast I can clear that corner without sliding too much (hence losing speed), that's what I lack of.

Consistency: 5
Mediocre I'd say.

Race Craft: 3
I constantly finding myself avoiding other racers or giving way to them, my driving style is pretty conservative in terms of racing, I don't dare to push too hard if I'm capable of overtaking the car in front of me, one of the reason could be my lag issues too, if I stick too close, I might just blew my opponent away with the lag, which would be bad.


Average: 5.0

[Slartibartfast]

When Gunn mentioned cornering technique I thought that was pretty squarely exlplained as part of line in the rating system. So that's where I put that. Also, consistency is a tough one. On an empty track I can go 10th for 10th, lap after lap. But factor in nerves and the general confusion of trying to outwit, or avoid being outwitted, and the game changes. So racecraft certainly effects consistency to some extent. I'm going to rate my consistency on a clear track and adjust racecraft to reflect what I lose when in a pack.

Line: 6 No matter how hard I try, quick is just not in me.
Consitancy: 9.5 If it weren't *racing* I'd be doing pretty good.
Racecraft: 5 I am often ashamed when I leave servers. Let me say a global "Sorry" right here and now. I intend to change this. Have been as high as 8 at times.

Overall: 6.8

[DodgeRacer]

Line: 7 I can burn in a really good line and be glued to it and start nocking out fast laps.

Consistancy: 4 This is my sour spot, i'll run good on lap and on the next try to hard and completly screw up.

Racecraft: 6 I know when to let someone go and I always do, maybe not enough when im on the lead lap though, I usually go pretty hard if its for position, usuall a little to hard..but with my dial up i tend to try and stay a few feet away just in case

Overall 6 (rounded up cause the emu told me to) I feel I have really improved over time, and I feel that if i could get better connection i'd be able to race with the best of em

[Racer Y]

Ok so you've rated yourself and come up with an average score.... that's nice, but what does that exactly mean? Well once, you've added your scores and got your average rating, please scroll down on this post to realize what your average score means...........


1. That bad? It's amazing you can navigate to this
site
2. I bet your mom has to tie your shoes for you
3. You're a wrecker and should be banned
4. That's nice kid, now let the adults play now
5. OMFG you're as average as WHITE BREAD!
6. Gee, do you feel special being above average?
7. You'd probably do better if you quit wasting
time posting to forums
8. Yes, we're all jealous and really do talk bad about
you behind your back...please...
9. Dude! You really need to get out more.
10. A TEN? yeah right, now do the rating thing over
but try to be honest this time, ok?

[ayrton senna 87]

i would say tristan is a 7 then :D

[DodgeRacer]

Everyone that replied to this is a 7 haha :P

[mrodgers]

Everyone that replied to this is a 7 haha :P
Nah, I'm at work. I do all my forum reading/posting at work since I can't race. That way I can work on my ratings at home and adjust them when I get back to work :-)

[DodgeRacer]

mm thats true, im at school, guesin the professor and other students might get a little wtf'y if i whiped out a steering wheel during the middle of lecture...speaking of that i should really listen to what he is saying..........

...hahhah

[Slartibartfast]

wtf'y
My new favorite word.

[Chris_Kerry]

Line: 6
Consitancy: 1
Racecraft: 8

Overall: 5

I think that says it all about my driving :D

[Zoltuger]

Line: 4
Consistency: 4
Racecraft: 2
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Overall 3.33
i rule!

[JeffR]

Line: 10 - No matter where my car is, it's always on some line.

Consitency: 10 - every lap time is different, now that's consistent.

Racecraft: 10 - I've mangaged to turn every opponent car into a braking or cornering assist.

[Tweaker]

lol Jeff, don't too ahead of yourself... with skills like that, you should be on the front of a Wheaties box! :p

[Nick_ll]

Hrmmm....I'll try myself with these:
Line: 8.0
Consistency: 4.5
Racecraft: 6

That because when I'm in the groove I'll just get going and I can do pretty good times, but don't ask me to do that consistently, it's 100% sure I'll make mistakes at some point during the race and the longer the race the more mistakes as my thoughts tend to start wandering about real life stuff and concentration goes away....

[speedfreak227]

Line 8
Consistancy 5-8
Racecraft 10

LINE: I'm pretty good at picking the line from real life racing experience but my "line" problems occur sometimes because i can't visualize certain corners without them being in 3-d and being able to "walk" the track. someone SOMEWHERE posted a top view collage of screenshots that they took of one of the tracks and it was great for actually seeing how many degrees some of the corners went though. i wish that was available for all the tracks.

CONSISTANCY: My biggest weakness is that i don't know all the tracks or cars very well. it's rare for me to join a race and NOT set a personal best on lap 2. though usually after 10-15 laps i'm within a few seconds of the leaders and able to turn consistant laps. i can usually come from the back to top 5 with consistancy. i'd rather play it a little cool and not go off than go a few seconds per lap faster and risk an off.

RACECRAFT: my best strength in the game and real racing. i'm rarely the fastest but i'll do lap after lap a few seconds off the pace. i can see an accident happening and set up to dodge it. i don't make risky passes and i don't block. if someone's got a run, go right ahead, though i'm not moving off my line. i'll get ya back later.

i just need more practice with the cars and to learn the tracks better.

speedfreak227

[deggis]

I recently made a skin which is dedicated for all those crappy drivers like myself. :D

http://mbnet.fi/deg/lfs/skins/XFR_SoSlow_preview.jpg

Skin file: http://mbnet.fi/deg/lfs/skins/XFR_SoSlow.jpg

[Neokiller]

I recently made a skin which is dedicated for all those crappy drivers like myself. :D

http://mbnet.fi/deg/lfs/skins/XFR_SoSlow_preview.jpg

Skin file: http://mbnet.fi/deg/lfs/skins/XFR_SoSlow.jpg

That skins rocks :thumb:.. about the rating... 2 for all and 10 for my noob driving :pillepall

[sigemuk]

Line: 4
Consitancy: 3
Racecraft: 2

overall: 3

[lucky]

Line: 3
Not enough time to become prioperly quick ...
Consistency: 7
Usually I get all my times in a longer raci within a second of each other and 1-2 secs of my PB.
Racecraft: 9
I can pass and you can not pass me, if I want it like that ... But I enjoy side by side racing ...

[Hyperactive]

I recently made a skin which is dedicated for all those crappy drivers like myself. :D


You seem to be very devoted to your...quest :D

Btw. Racecraft doesn't only mean passing and being fast. A slow driver can be good in this, if he manages to avoid collisions and plays it fair :)

[LRB_Aly]

I assume 10 is best?

In that case i come up with this ratings (For concistency i have to made 2 categories: short races and long ones cause i think there is a huge gap for me between the 2)

Line 6

Consistency short races 7
Consistency long races 4
overall consistancy 5.5

Racecraft 7

Overall 6,1

[Slartibartfast]

RACECRAFT: my best strength in the game and real racing. i'm rarely the fastest but i'll do lap after lap a few seconds off the pace. i can see an accident happening and set up to dodge it. i don't make risky passes and i don't block. if someone's got a run, go right ahead, though i'm not moving off my line. i'll get ya back later.
If that's all there is to racecraft then I get a 10 too.

Not questioning your abilities, but I took off points on my own because I really don't have a knack for setting up a pass. I'm too careful or something. Unwilling to go right to the limit and risk an incedent. And my strategic instincts are low. I don't see the opportunities the way others do. I'm learning a little at a time though.

[skiingman]

I drive mouse at the moment, and I'm not good at morse code throttle.

Line: 3. I usually get the "line" pretty good, but in the powerful cars I usually roll way past the apex before picking up the throttle, or I'm way too slow at the apex because I had to brake excessively before turn in because light trailbraking is awfully difficult with the mouse.

Consistancy: 3. If I'm familiar with the combo, I usually don't drive off the track, but every 10 or 20 laps my optical mouse wigs out and swings my steering to the lock. Ouch! I also am not particularly good at keeping the LX6 and other vehicles setup with softish tires going straight. Feel like I'm driving a shopping trolley in reverse.

Racecraft: 5. If I'm faster than someone, I usually don't have a problem getting by cleanly. I'm awfully bad at protecting my position, I tend to just stay on line and leave things wide open.

Overall: 3.33 Can't wait to get a good wheel/pedals and see if I can improve from there. Honestly at this point I think the pedals will make the biggest difference.

[robt]

hmmmmmm line depends, soem tracks i can pick up well (fern bay after half a litre of beer is my best)
erm, id say around 6.5 on average, because im on keyboard that (should) be around a 9 on wheel :P
consistancy: ill go check some replays.................well one 8lap race, minus start lap my times changed by 0.5seconds thru the whole race. and i wasnt on the pit limiter either!!!
so erm, 9.5 if i push it.
racecraft: getting worse!!! erm, i pick up on others mistakes, force them inot making them without contact, but every now and again i end up in an incedent. so erm, 6.

line:6.5
consistancy: 9.5
racecraft:6

overall:7.3

im sure the CRC guys will correct me!!!

[Tweaker]

Honestly at this point I think the pedals will make the biggest difference.
Oh they will! Braking with the mouse is very hard, and everything abuot having pedals and a wheel is so much more satisfying :)

[speedfreak227]

If that's all there is to racecraft then I get a 10 too.

Not questioning your abilities, but I took off points on my own because I really don't have a knack for setting up a pass. I'm too careful or something. Unwilling to go right to the limit and risk an incedent. And my strategic instincts are low. I don't see the opportunities the way others do. I'm learning a little at a time though.

i'm good at setting up a pass but i'm better at it in real life in karting. not having the ability to turn my head takes a lot away. also, not feeling feedback through the brake pedal and seat of my pants also makes going to the limit difficult. i generally don't like taking the risk either in this game because you're often not up against people with good racing ethics and they'll turn in regardless. don't get me wrong, there's tonnes of fantastic racers out there but often the ones that are the most respectful are faster than I and i don't get to tangle with them very much

i find that if i'm fast enough to run with someone it's best to stay with them and pressure them into an error or look for a weakness rather than take a chance and risk a spin. maybe beep a few times to get them checking their mirrors. hehehehehhe

speedfreak227

[Slartibartfast]

We have to get on the track together. I read what you write, it's like I'm looking in a mirror. RL is much easier for me too. Especially braking. I can outbrake anyone in a kart. And I'm not an underbraker like the person you usually hear say that sort of thing. I have references who typically drive circles around me. :) My starts rule too. But I think the general personality trait is there. Just different mechanics of different racing classes. (Sim online vs. RL.)

I don't use my horn when pressuring, but I learned a lot about feignts from watching Mansell and Senna back in the day.

[bail0ut]

line: 7
consistancy: 4 (consistently bad unfortunately)
racecraft: 2

I think I am waaaaaay to cautious so my line is usually good but I am slow. My biggest strength is driving behind the pack and passing only when others get into accidents...

getting better though, and having a blast as always.