Changes at ConeDodgers

[birder]

Since Patch X all CD servers have been upgraded to 47 slots with 32 racers

CD1 is set to our normal GTR’s on Aston National (AS3)
CD3 is set to UFR / XFR on Aston Cadet (AS2)

CD2 and 4 have changed from day to day.

The racing on CD1 and CD3 has been manic, so much so that its almost impossible to get a race without problems. Most Newbies when joing LFS go straight for the big GTR’s and as CD1 always the fullest server in the list they end up there. CD1 also attracts some amazing drivers, pre X we had 10 drivers in the 1:39’s and 100’s in the 1:40’s. FXR and XRR times in the 1:41’s were also common.

With 47 slots we now have racers waitng to race and 32 cars into T1 is carnage.

With Patch X we have found it almost impossible to Admin the servers. Its difficult to find, let alone right click a name in the huge connection list. Blue flags are out on every lap after lap 1, and the use of Shift+S is causing Mayhem. Also there is so much chat that no one takes notice of any admin warnings.

We get sleepers on the grid EVERY RACE as drivers just forget the new start system and even drivers who sit on the grid with their brakes on just to cause problems.

Something had to be done and with the help of the_angry_angel we now have a license system in place.

CD1 will stay public but CD2 now has the License system running on it.

Simply put, if you name is not on the list you cannot join the race.

In order to get the sytem up and running we have had use the times recorded on LFSLapper under Patch W.

A license has been given to any racer who has been on a CD server while LFSLapper has been running and completed a lap under 1:44.40 with patch W.

To see if you have a License goto www.conedodgers.co.uk (http://www.conedodgers.co.uk/) and enter you name in the search in the home page. Its a bit basic but all i could do in the time

If your name is not in you need a License so simply go to CD1 and race, once you have done a 1:44.40 LFSLapper will say “[CD] target PB XXXXX” and you will be considered at the next Licence update.

This is a manual system and not automatic.

ALL WE ASK THAT IF YOU HAVE A LICENCE YOU PLEASE RACE ON CD2

Further details will be announced on our website

Thanks

[CD] Birder

[Widdowmaker]

It is very dissapointing to hear that you have had to put restrictions in place to allow a decent race of like minded people.

I do hope this works for you and the racers who want to race on your servers. Good luck :thumb:

[JohnPenn]

Had many great races on the CD servers in the past, all the best for your new CD2 server hope it brings better racing for all.

[BenjiMC]

i kinda have fun with all the noobs on CD3 today, it's a new challenge, like an action movie or sumet, but the new licence is a definate +1 from me :thumb:

[birder]

Widdowmaker, i can only find a time for WE1 so no licence but i am sure you will hit 1:44.40 on CD1 without any trouble

JohnPenn and Benji, you both have a license so get some clean racing on CD2

Benji, i have not had time to sort out CD3, now 32 mini GTR's is truly manic, i agree that its fun, sort of a Death Destruction Derby without the Death....

My next plan is to supply cheap body panels for UFR and XFR and setup shop on CD3

[Slopi]

Sweet. Now to wait till the server is dead silent for me to go do some hotlapping! That way I don't have to dodge T1 wrecks :razz:

[Thill]

any chance to do the same for ppl driving the ufr and xfr ? As I like the big gtr's , the small ones are just more fun :)

[AlienT.]

I think that this is a great idea, I feel sorry for you CD guys as you've been getting a lot of undeseved stick recently :(. I am not quite at the 1:44 mark yet...a little more practise and I should be there. Good luck with the new system.

[Slopi]

any chance to do the same for ppl driving the ufr and xfr ? As I like the big gtr's , the small ones are just more fun

+1!!!

I do like the smaller cars better :thumb:

[CELTIC100]

+1 Except It's the first time ever I have found CD2 to be empty :scratchch

So Jumped onto CD1 with 8 racers :thumb:

[Becky Rose]

You know, just because you can run 32 racers does not mean that you should :).

I do wish you all the best with your coming system though.

[Sticky-Micky]

woohoo :thumb:

will get on tonight when the mrs is watching big brother :D

edit to add, thanks to the angry angel :D


i tried to like the new patch X but found the game more stressfull as a result, starting from the back was a complete nightmare IMO, once you were out the front and to quote lewis hamilton "away from the monkeys" it was still fun, but the starts were a bit of a pain.

i once sat right at the back of the grid and just took it easy and saw the king of all pileups happen right infront of me with people swerving around others and hitting each other :(

this seams to happen far to much with the "people at the back"

also had massive problems with picking a pit entry due to the large amount of traffic and "newbies" joining midrace/blue flag mayhem.

best way i could think of was to stay out for as long as possible and hope nobody new joins mid race :(


should be good to start racing the usual decent racers again :D

[andybarsblade]

You know, just because you can run 32 racers does not mean that you should :).


+1 :)

[DeadWolfBones]

Good luck with the changed, CD guys.

[felplacerad]

Why such a high number of spec slots? I'd consider reducing the number of spectators to, well, five. tops. That'd reduce the chatter, hammering, so on and so forth.

[Sticky-Micky]

Why such a high number of spec slots? I'd consider reducing the number of spectators to, well, five. tops. That'd reduce the chatter, hammering, so on and so forth.


they are needed for admin/marshall stuff :thumbsup:

[Gil07]

All of the 15 spec slots? I'd think around 7-8 would be more than enough.

[zeugnimod]

any chance to do the same for ppl driving the ufr and xfr ? As I like the big gtr's , the small ones are just more fun :)

+3

[birder]

Why such a high number of spec slots? I'd consider reducing the number of spectators to, well, five. tops. That'd reduce the chatter, hammering, so on and so forth.

We would like to have 47 slots for LFS GTR: League races so D2 drivers could spec D1 but its a good idea

However i am not sure the number of spectators is a config setting?

We had several good drivers use CD2 last night but some Licensed driver stayed on CD1.

This is a tempory solution until our new race control system is finished.

[ACCAkut]

Oh, now i need 2secs less with my XRR, atm I manage 1:45s.:shrug:

[XenoWolf]

I've had some of the best racing of my LFS 'career' this week on CD3. Sure there were terrible drivers mixed in, but that just added to the fun. For example, having one plow through the AS1 chicane tires and then having to squeek my way through the littered track at 100mph with an airborne UFR. Some people really stress out for no reason on your servers. Someone would get spun out by accident and they would IMMEDIATELY go to the kick/ban vote and spam the guy with insults, it was rediculous.

[the_angry_angel]

We would like to have 47 slots for LFS GTR: League races so D2 drivers could spec D1 but its a good idea

However i am not sure the number of spectators is a config setting?

We had several good drivers use CD2 last night but some Licensed driver stayed on CD1.

This is a tempory solution until our new race control system is finished.
The number of spectators is determined by the maxguests-carsmax.

i.e. if you set maxguests = 47, there's a total of 47 connections, which equals 47-carsmax.
For only 5 spectators set /maxguests=carsmax+5 (where carsmax represents the actual number set for /carsmax).

[robps]

You know, just because you can run 32 racers does not mean that you should :).

I do wish you all the best with your coming system though.

We live in hope of 32 clean drivers on a server at the same time, wouldn't that be something :D

[Scawen]

However i am not sure the number of spectators is a config setting?As the_angry_angel says /maxguests and /carsmax are separate settings. But I guess you knew that. But one that not everyone knows is /adminslots which can be anything from 0 to 8. You probably know that as well but I'll just mention it here for anyone who's reading as it's a quite recent update and some people still don't know about it.

It's a setting to reserve slots for admins, so they can always join with the admin password.

For example if you have /maxguests=47 and /adminslots=7 then only 40 non-admins can join so when empty your host will appear in the list like this : 0/40.

It surprises me to see hosts with 0/47 because it means they have not reserved any admin slots.

[Lotesdelere]

For example if you have /maxguests=47 and /adminslots=7 then only 40 non-admins can join so when empty your host will appear in the list like this : 0/40.
They appear like that in the in-game list only but not on LFS World.

It surprises me to see hosts with 0/47 because it means they have not reserved any admin slots.

[Becky Rose]

We live in hope of 32 clean drivers on a server at the same time, wouldn't that be something :D
Ever considered a carear in stand up?

[james12s]

lol

[ebola]

I've had some of the best racing of my LFS 'career' this week on CD3. Sure there were terrible drivers mixed in, but that just added to the fun. For example, having one plow through the AS1 chicane tires and then having to squeek my way through the littered track at 100mph with an airborne UFR. Some people really stress out for no reason on your servers. Someone would get spun out by accident and they would IMMEDIATELY go to the kick/ban vote and spam the guy with insults, it was rediculous.

I'd just like to echo this, I have some extreme fun on CD3, previously I dont think id even joined your servers. Yes lots of terrible drivers (sorry for taking you out Xenowolf :) but also lots of very good ones!! I can also see why you are having to look at introducing a system of this kind - its just human nature unfortunately.

[birder]

Well thanks to the_angry_angel the system new license system is running well, and seem to be working.

Its taken 2 days for drivers to understand that if they have a Licence they should go straight to CD2 and at the time of posting.

CD1 is 3/4 full and still manic
CD2 is full of Licensed drivers and a Newbie free zone
CD3 is full of manic UFR and XFR action but we have reduced it to 28 cars
CD4 is empty but will be converted to a License server for CD3 drivers over the next few days.

My problem is who do i give a license to. On CD3 there are some fast mini GTR drivers but they have little or no race craft, then there are drivers like me that have some race craft but are gang banged at every corner but still cant drive the stinking little things for toffee.

CD3 is great fun but how the hell do you guys get them round so fast.

Good job Admins dont need a License......

My idea is to have 5 license's

1) Provisional - Allows you to race while others check you out.
2) Mini GTR - UFR and XFR on CD3 and CD4
3) Big GTR - FZR, XRR or FXR on CD1 and CD2
4) Full - No restrictions
5) Admin - No restriction (even if they are crap)

What do you think?

[XenoWolf]

CD3 is great fun but how the hell do you guys get them round so fast.

Left-foot braking. :thumb:

Glad to hear you'll be adding a licence server for CD3. I caught myself being a little overzealous a few times today, but after getting used to top-five pace and then being stuck in the back with rookies, laggers and general crap drivers swerving/wrecking all over the place, its a bit hard to get around someone without some contact.

[FL!P]

The new licensing system seems to work very well. :thumb:

I was on CD2 this evening, and the level of racing was very good. It's great to be able to run half a lap side by side with another guy, knowing that he's not going to push you off in the next turn!

[detail]

I've beaten the target PB, but still not among licensed. Waiting for the next license update.

This chaos is just annoying. Not in a single race I could avoid crashes on L1. Few times I drove into a wall myself, but usually there was always someone to push, hit, lag-explode me, brake into me in the hairpin, and then the best I can do is to drive to the 10th place and have hopes again for the next race. But this happens every time!

[Tomi]

My problem is who do i give a license to. On CD3 there are some fast mini GTR drivers but they have little or no race craft, then there are drivers like me that have some race craft but are gang banged at every corner but still cant drive the stinking little things for toffee.

CD3 is great fun but how the hell do you guys get them round so fast.

I had a great fun last night at CD3. The races were quite clean (probably because admins were online).

I managed to win 3 races in a row although I am quite slow (I did a pb of 51.79 with the UFR), but driving consistently did the trick, so it's not always about being the fastest in a lap. :nod:

There is a strange thing when I test if I have a license on your website. I write "Tomi" at the prompt but it show me the license of tomisu. Does it means that I could enter CD2 because tomisu has a license or is the server more strict than the little app on your website ?

[birder]

I had a great fun last night at CD3. The races were quite clean (probably because admins were online).

I managed to win 3 races in a row although I am quite slow (I did a pb of 51.79 with the UFR), but driving consistently did the trick, so it's not always about being the fastest in a lap. :nod:

There is a strange thing when I test if I have a license on your website. I write "Tomi" at the prompt but it show me the license of tomisu. Does it means that I could enter CD2 because tomisu has a license or is the server more strict than the little app on your website ?

The database on the website is run so it searches out what you enter and take no notice of case. Tomi is in Tomisu so tomisu has a licence but your name did not show you do not have a license. (Not done the CD3 list yet)

I did it like that so you did not have to be "that" exact with what you enter.

Lotes was admin last night and he is quiet forgiving, what i will say is dont hit [CD] Birder as he is a lot more strict.

By the way 51.79 is fast to me, i am in the 53's and cannot get a clear track to get faster.

[ebola]

Morning birder,

If I race on CD3 over the next few days am I likely to get a licence or will I need to apply for one?

Thanks

[Thill]

Morning all :) Had some great fun racing on CD3 yesterday , sure there were some wreckers but overall it was alot better than the days before that (prolly cause CD ppl were online) :)

[SabersKunk]

CD servers rock. They are a great bunch of guys and I am glad the new systems are working well.

Roll on the next league season, time to put CD-Dimo under some pressure ;)

[Tomi]

By the way 51.79 is fast to me, i am in the 53's and cannot get a clear track to get faster.

I was also in the 53's 2 days ago, unable to do a single clean lap with all the wreckers out there. But last time, my times improved as soon as I had a clear track. I think you have the same room for improvement. I'm not really a fast driver. :thumb:

[Delgado]

Good Idea CD-guys... :)

The races in the "public" servers are funny, u started from the last grid
and finished in first or second grid :)
But anyway...the "noobs" think, to win the race, u must overtake and brake later then all in T1 :(

Also, they don't know what the blue flag is :(

So, i'm happy to have the "license" and to race some good events with u..

Btw. when i have the license 4 CD-2 can i drive in CD-4 also ?

[Delgado]

..double post..hmm

[birder]

Good Idea CD-guys... :)

The races in the "public" servers are funny, u started from the last grid
and finished in first or second grid :)
But anyway...the "noobs" think, to win the race, u must overtake and brake later then all in T1 :(

Also, they don't know what the blue flag is :(

So, i'm happy to have the "license" and to race some good events with u..

Btw. when i have the license 4 CD-2 can i drive in CD-4 also ?

I have just finished sorting out the License files for CD4 but at the moment i cannot update the file on the website, this will be done later

CD1 Public AS3 10 laps plus pit FZR/XRR/FXR
CD2 Licensed AS3 10 laps plus pit FZR/XRR/FXR
CD3 Public AS1 7 laps no pit UFR/XFR and MTR for Lotes
CD4 Licensed AS1 7 laps no pit UFR/XFR

[AeoIus]

Morning all :) Had some great fun racing on CD3 yesterday , sure there were some wreckers but overall it was alot better than the days before that (prolly cause CD ppl were online) :)True, great fun Thill :)

[TysCaargh]

Actually I am quite happy to see that actions are taken to keep a clean server where driving might be more fun.
As much as I believe in personal freedom and letting people just do what they do best, there was such a torrent of unrespectful drivers, that I went into banning mode on my servers myself now.
So I hope you do have success, and keep CD3 free for all, so it acts like a huge idi*t magnet and drains them from the rest;p

[sshhaabb]

A very good idea had the best race last nite on CD2

[Hammerdown]

Saw the post, had a look and did a 1:44.15 this morning (single player, FZR). Had a go on the server and best was a 46 something I think. Nice clean racing, so thanks.

BTW what tyres would you guys use on an FZR for a ten lap race, R2s?

[robps]

Saw the post, had a look and did a 1:44.15 this morning (single player, FZR). Had a go on the server and best was a 46 something I think. Nice clean racing, so thanks.

BTW what tyres would you guys use on an FZR for a ten lap race, R2s?

Yes, R2 are the most suitable type of tyre.

[CELTIC100]

Good racing On CD2 Last night Lads Really enjoyed it when you can trust the drivers around you (R4R Flip) ;) Good Dice Now to see if I can catch you in my FOX :D

[scipy]

you should really make the limit a 1:43.00 lap (or lower) under old patch... imo.

[Gentlefoot]

All of the 15 spec slots? I'd think around 7-8 would be more than enough.

I think you can only have 8 admins connected at one time anyway

[FL!P]

It's a setting, GF. See Scawen's reply (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=456206#post456206).

@CELTIC100: really enjoyed it too, mate! But I certainly hope your FOX doesn't match my FO8! :D

[Lightsaver]

you should really make the limit a 1:43.00 lap (or lower) under old patch... imo.

+1

[zeugnimod]

Can you say what the limot for CD3 is?

I would think 52:00 is appropriate.

[birder]

Can you say what the limot for CD3 is?

I would think 52:00 is appropriate.

CD3 is public so no limit,
To race on CD4 you have to have beaten 53.75 on CD3 to be considered.

The website now has a licence checker on the home page

At the moment there are 4 licences

miniGTR = CD1 yes, CD2 No, CD3 Yes, CD4 yes (373 License's)
BigGTR = CD1, Yes, CD2 Yes, CD3 Yes, CD4 no (1357 License's)
Full = CD1 Yes, CD2 Yes, CD3 Yes, CD4 Yes (207 Licenses)
CD Team = Team members -access to everything (31 License's)

Thats 1968 Licenses in 2 days.

[Thill]

Just a quick Q :) , whats the point of having cd4 if the req to get into it (53.75) could be done by a half drunk, half hangover , 1 handed , 1 eyed monkey after a few practice laps arround the track. No offence to anybody but come one this way you will just have 2 public servers , one with a slightly less number of wreckers.

I dont really know what is considered a great time on CD1 but from what I judge by some posts .44 is kind of quick .. well 53.75 on as1 isnt to quick :( I suggest lowering the time to arround mid 52's . then its going to be a challange to get into cd4 and at least ppl driving there will be sure that any wreck that happens was due to a honest mistake and not random crashing ..

Sorry if I offended anyone with that monkey remark but I like racing the small gtr's and dont want to see another server ruined by wreckers that took the time do do 5-10 laps and made the req time for cd4.

[morcs]

(53.75) could be done by a half drunk, half hangover , 1 handed , 1 eyed monkey after a few practice laps arround the track

Ohh and there I was thinking I was getting quick again :shy:

I agree though, I started driving GTRs properly a couple of weeks ago and I got 53 almost straight away, but 44.4 still eludes me! (I'm consistent though, I got a best lap of 1:44.68 3 races in a row, very frustrating!) :tilt:

[m.odonoghue]

good luck

[Thill]

I agree though, I started driving GTRs properly a couple of weeks ago and I got 53 almost straight away, but 44.4 still eludes me! (I'm consistent though, I got a best lap of 1:44.68 3 races in a row, very frustrating!) :tilt:


thats what i mean , its like they dont take the small gtr's serious ..:( I dont belive that anybody from CD dosent know that 53.75 is just silly on that track ..Especially as they seemed to want high standart of racing on those servers and reqs for cd2 are high ..

[geeman1]

Just a quick Q :) , whats the point of having cd4 if the req to get into it (53.75) could be done by a half drunk, half hangover , 1 handed , 1 eyed monkey after a few practice laps arround the track.Agreed. The limit should be around 52 maybe 52.5 to be in about same difficulty level as getting 1:44.4 in the big GTRs.

[Tomi]

the limit is no use if fast drivers stay in the CD3 servers instead of going to the CD4.

I tried CD4 last night, I only saw 2 guys, one of them being a CD admin. An hour later I was back at CD3 where all the racing was done. :thumbsdow

[LoganC]

I reached the CD1 target time, took quite a while and a LOT of tweaking of the setup! I was very close though! One wrong shift could have ruined it! (1:44.35) !
I got the little Target PB thing, but yet, I still can't join CD2. Are the licenses manually updated? Or are they only automatic for previous W LFS Lapper times?
Anyway, it's a great idea and I look forward to some good clean racing. Soon hopefully. I'd hate to have to try and beat it again! :)
-LoganC-

[Thill]

the limit is no use if fast drivers stay in the CD3 servers instead of going to the CD4.

I tried CD4 last night, I only saw 2 guys, one of them being a CD admin. An hour later I was back at CD3 where all the racing was done. :thumbsdow

its probably due to the fact that alot of ppl dont read forums and have no idea what cd4 is for . There is a small remark when you join cd3 but it gets lost in all the chatter ..

Might i suggest to make a big red/yellow (whatever :P) text int he middle of the screen that advertises cd4 and explains how to enter (the 53.00 lap rule) , because lots of ppl just know that there is something like a licence system (cause they heard) but dont know how to aquire it :)

[DanneDA]

I reached the CD1 target time, took quite a while and a LOT of tweaking of the setup! I was very close though! One wrong shift could have ruined it! (1:44.35) !
I got the little Target PB thing, but yet, I still can't join CD2. Are the licenses manually updated? Or are they only automatic for previous W LFS Lapper times?
Anyway, it's a great idea and I look forward to some good clean racing. Soon hopefully. I'd hate to have to try and beat it again! :)
-LoganC-



It's manually updated, you may need to wait a few days for the next update.

[LoganC]

Great, Thanks! I really appreciate the quick response.
At least it will give me time to improve my time!
-LoganC-

[DriftStar]

Lol you live in Lincolnshire UK too, where abouts? ;D

[Widdowmaker]

Widdowmaker, i can only find a time for WE1 so no licence but i am sure you will hit 1:44.40 on CD1 without any trouble


Did 2 races today - Hit a 1:43.73 - without issue.... Had 2 good races actually - with a CD upfront showing us how its done.

Enjoyed it.:thumb::thumb:

[birder]

To all those who have said thanks, +1 etc, its a pleasure

To those who feel they need to tell us how to run our servers, please find another one.

Wow, I supply 2 Mini GTR servers and i get called a 1 eyed drunken monkey, at one point over 20% of all drivers (S2) were on CD servers so someone is enjoying it. Still its nothing i have not heard before. :shrug:

A few facts

1) ConeDodgers are well known for the big GTR's and the new mini GTR's was only done after X came out, so please give us a break.

2) Moaning for the sake of it is not appreciated and i remind anyone who does, that i have found that typing /ban xxx 999 make the moaning go away for ages. Please be positive or contructive, moaning has an effect on me that will always get a reaction (a bad one).

3) There are over 700 drivers of Mini GTR's who have be on CD3, yet only just over 50% are faster than 53.75. Lapper is set at 2.50.00 and the slowest recorded time on CD3 strangely is 2:49.50. Yes 2 minutes and 49 seconds, maybe its was a tottally drunk monkey with no eyes.

4) Today we lowered the target time on CD4 to 0.53.00 and i updated the the licence file so CD4 is licensed for you. Slower driver who already had a license did not lose it.

5) Its a manual system and take almost 2 hours to update so i will do it when i am good and ready and not before.

6) The big GTR License file has 2000 in it and will have several removed at the next update as this is far to many. Several Licensed drivers are still using CD1, they possible like the carnage, however when i update the Big GTR licenses people who have never used CD2 yet do use CD1 will be the ones that are removed.

I think we run a very good set of servers, but we are not perfect, in fact i am far from it, so please give us a bit of time.

[zeugnimod]

To all those who have said thanks, +1 etc, its a pleasure

To those who feel they need to tell us how to run our servers, please find another one.

So you only want people to praise you and tell you how great you are instead of people giving suggestions to improve your servers even more?

[birder]

So you only want people to praise you and tell you how great you are instead of people giving suggestions to improve your servers even more?

As i said positive and contructive suggestions are welcome.

but to get

"whats the point of having cd4 if the req to get into it (53.75) could be done by a half drunk, half hangover , 1 handed , 1 eyed monkey after a few practice laps arround the track."

is nothing more than someone having a moan for what we have done. What have they done, nothing yet they have to have go at us.

If it had been worded in a different manner it would have been welcome.

[Thill]

rofl if you quote please quote with the name . And lol I thought that this sentence was suppsoed to be funny and well ppl liked it but I guess we are touchy arent we?

Where did I call YOU a drunken monkey ?(just so we are clear here is the sentence again "Just a quick Q , whats the point of having cd4 if the req to get into it (53.75) could be done by a half drunk, half hangover , 1 handed , 1 eyed monkey after a few practice laps arround the track. No offence to anybody.... ") , next time please read up a few times and see that it was ment as a funny remark to the fact that 53.75 was a bit high (and drivers on cd4 did agree with me on that ).

Now how I came to the conclusion , well as I love to race on cd3 (even thou I get wrecked every second time ) I wanted to at least try to help you guys make the cd4 a licensed server and not just another server where ppl think going 150 into t1 is ok cause they have brakes from wonderland. So I payed close attention to the times after each race and even took the time to spec ppl and see the difference of driving based on the lap times . and guess what 1/2 of ppl having times arround 53.75 were driving like maniacs when it comes to close contact , so I thought "ok cd4 is sopposed to be for fast clean races , lots of it is toe to toe as the times are very close to eachother , so where do we need the most clean driving .." and guess what , its toe to toe driving where those mentioned earlier are not handling to well .

So here is the story of my remark , but I guess trying to help You guys and put in some funny remark (i belive there was a no offence line) is not the right way to do and You know best so I'll just shut up and let you run your servers the way you know is best ..

[ACCAkut]

Does the server give me some feedback when I hit the target time? I just drove a 52:45 and it was only shown "Acc has new PB..." :shrug:

[FL!P]

Yeah, it used to display something with "target pb", but I ran a 0:52.22 yesterday on CD3 and I didn't see that message.

[birder]

Where did I call YOU a drunken monkey ..

At the time my PB on CD3 was 53.75 so i was the Monkey. I tried to chat to you last night but you would not answer me.

If its a joke just put (lol) after it and we will all get you idea.:nod:

[birder]

Yeah, it used to display something with "target pb", but I ran a 0:52.22 yesterday on CD3 and I didn't see that message.

Does the server give me some feedback when I hit the target time? I just drove a 52:45 and it was only shown "Acc has new PB..."


Lapper only puts that message up if you beat your server PB, i then take the data and extract all those who are faster than the target time we set (CD1 1:44.40 CD3 0.53.00)

If you do !stats it will tell you your current time. or goto the website and enter your username in the license checker.

[Thill]

At the time my PB on CD3 was 53.75 so i was the Monkey. I tried to chat to you last night but you would not answer me.

If its a joke just put (lol) after it and we will all get you idea.:nod:

hmmm thats rather impossible because yesterday I havent been playin g since hmm about 19:00 as I was on a party till 3 in the morning ..

I thought that the meaning of the sentence was funny enough to leave it but I dont really want to discuss and debate that as I dont really want to be banned from the cd servers.

PS: something is wrong with your server btw , as yesterday a few times , while in middle of race I got kicked to spectator . But the wierd thing is I was kicked for now moving. (the drive or spectate message and then kick after some time ) Another wierd thing is that It wasnt me that was beeing kicked (sort off ) , will try to explain :

A few days ago after getting a bit drunk I changed my nick to Thill(a-bit-drunk) and raced like that so ppl will know to be careful arround me :) but then the next day beeing on a hangover I had a nick Thill(chillout) , but the message for the kick to spectator looked like that (about) "Thill(a-bit-drunk) was moved to spectator or whatever the exact message is. The thing is my nick was thill(chillout) at that time .I know that my master nick is what was beeing kicked but still why did it say Thill(a-bit-drunk) ?. Dont know if you got what I wanted to say cause its kind of hard to explain.

PS: "is nothing more than someone having a moan for what we have done. What have they done, nothing yet they have to have go at us." See I could jump to conclusions based on that remark like you did (because the only reason I wrot that post was to HELP you make a good clean serv and not moan about that something is wrong with it without knowing all the facts) but erm I dont.

[birder]

hmmm thats rather impossible because yesterday I havent been playin g since hmm about 19:00 as I was on a party till 3 in the morning ..

I thought that the meaning of the sentence was funny enough to leave it but I dont really want to discuss and debate that as I dont really want to be banned from the cd servers.

PS: something is wrong with your server btw , as yesterday a few times , while in middle of race I got kicked to spectator . But the wierd thing is I was kicked for now moving. (the drive or spectate message and then kick after some time ) Another wierd thing is that It wasnt me that was beeing kicked (sort off ) , will try to explain :

A few days ago after getting a bit drunk I changed my nick to Thill(a-bit-drunk) and raced like that so ppl will know to be careful arround me :) but then the next day beeing on a hangover I had a nick Thill(chillout) , but the message for the kick to spectator looked like that (about) "Thill(a-bit-drunk) was moved to spectator or whatever the exact message is. The thing is my nick was thill(chillout) at that time .I know that my master nick is what was beeing kicked but still why did it say Thill(a-bit-drunk) ?. Dont know if you got what I wanted to say cause its kind of hard to explain.

PS: "is nothing more than someone having a moan for what we have done. What have they done, nothing yet they have to have go at us." See I could jump to conclusions based on that remark like you did (because the only reason I wrot that post was to HELP you make a good clean serv and not moan about that something is wrong with it without knowing all the facts) but erm I dont.

1) Kick to spectator is automatic if you dont move for 30 seconds, thats a lapper setting, it first warns you to move and 10 seconds later your are sent to spectate
2) I am not sure of the time i tried to chat to you, you were spectating at the time.
3) What you said may have been funny to you but not to those who it was aimed at.

To be fair i do get fed up with people TELLING me what i should do with my servers, they always seem to want me to answer them straight away even if i am racing. In fact they dont tell me what to do they order me to do it.

I went onto CD3 today for 3 races and was hit and turned over in all 3.
During the 3 races i banned 3 drivers for 12 hours for bad driving. They were all the faster drivers just bumping their way through from the back. Plus i banned one for swearing (Constantly) and another for taking the p**s out of admin. 8 others should have been banned for their stupid driving and not obeying the blue flag.

While i was banning someone i was given the blue flag, i moved off line and slowed to let the faster car pass, and he hit me, i then get "Why did you slow?". You just cant help some people. He was clearly in the wrong, he was doing times in the low 51's so should have known better. Still he can get back on the server in 12 hours when his ban comes off.

Its strange but it then all went quiet and the next races i watched had no problems.

I say Sorry to you Thill, but doing admin on 4 busy servers is not funny, i am very proud of ConeDodgers but sometimes what people say winds me up.

I would ask that everyone do as you are asked by admin when on the server, answer any question asked by admin, and everyone just give others some room.

Being fed up with the carnage went to CD4 (On my own) only to be joined by someone saying "Check your emails, i just got banned on CD3", "it was not me","Please check the replay and unban me","Can you do it now as i want to race" Blah Blah Blah

I went back to CD3 and unbanned him just to shut him up. I then watched 3 races where there were 5 votes to ban from people and i could see no reason why they had voted to ban.

Maybe i should just give up and let you all get on with it........

[AlienT.]

Hey Birder, things ain't so bad mate. I'm sure a lot of people are having fun on your servers, I know I am. You can only do so much :shrug:. I suggest you relax a bit, you can't please all of the people all of the time as they say.

I think the reason there are issues on your servers is because of the simple fact that the GTR cars by their very nature are more difficult to control at speed, especially overtaking manoevers with limited visability and a full grid, accidents are bound to happen. I'm really not sure what else you can do with public servers? Admin, I would imagine, is not an easy experience on popular public servers.

[Slopi]

CD4 wasn't showing in the server list earlier when I tried to find it. I had to manually type the server name in to join, then was spammed by the licence mod in the chat chan, and was unable to start a race. This a bug?

The CD3 server is nothing short of a total nightmare ANY time I join. It's pointless. Period. When you can't even complete a single lap without being full-throttle rear-ended or just plain crushed to death by brain-dead people in T1/T2, the fun is completely gone.

Thanks for your time CD people, I'll be back whenever you get CD4 straightened out. In the mean time, I SUGGEST (not order you, like you claim people do)that you implement some sort of reporting feature if you want to stay above board in all of this. Also extend bans past 12 hours. People do NOT improve in 12 hours...

And with that, I wish you all the best of luck and hope some of you start racing on CD4, instead of conforming and just racing with the constant cluster**** that is CD3 :x

[HEAVYSET]

I'm sorry to interrupt the more serious queries, but in regards to earlier suggestions for limiting spectator spots, I selfishly hope that doesn't happen. For me, the ability to spectate was one of the selling points of this game. I've seen some very heated battles already, that I have enjoyed as much as anything I've seen on Speed TV. Great driving deserves an audience.

[birder]

Slopi Said: CD4 wasn't showing in the server list earlier

A lot of servers were missing from the master server at one time

The CD3 server is nothing short of a total nightmare ANY time I join. It's pointless. Period. When you can't even complete a single lap without being full-throttle rear-ended or just plain crushed to death by brain-dead people in T1/T2, the fun is completely gone.

Some seem to enjoy this

Thanks for your time CD people, I'll be back whenever you get CD4 straightened out. In the mean time, I SUGGEST (not order you, like you claim people do)that you implement some sort of reporting feature if you want to stay above board in all of this. Also extend bans past 12 hours. People do NOT improve in 12 hours...

Impossible to do without loads more work

And with that, I wish you all the best of luck and hope some of you start racing on CD4, instead of conforming and just racing with the constant cluster**** that is CD3 :x

I ask again if you have a license for CD3 move to CD4, if you dant start using it i will change it to GTR's and another track.

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[birder]

I'm sorry to interrupt the more serious queries, but in regards to earlier suggestions for limiting spectator spots, I selfishly hope that doesn't happen. For me, the ability to spectate was one of the selling points of this game. I've seen some very heated battles already, that I have enjoyed as much as anything I've seen on Speed TV. Great driving deserves an audience.

Spectators will stay 42 plus 5 Admin (47), we have lowered the number on the grid to 28 on CD3 but you will find you often get "Race is full"

If the Licensed drivers move to Cd4 this would cure that.

[birder]

Hey Birder, things ain't so bad mate. I'm sure a lot of people are having fun on your servers, I know I am. You can only do so much :shrug:. I suggest you relax a bit, you can't please all of the people all of the time as they say.

I think the reason there are issues on your servers is because of the simple fact that the GTR cars by their very nature are more difficult to control at speed, especially overtaking manoevers with limited visability and a full grid, accidents are bound to happen. I'm really not sure what else you can do with public servers? Admin, I would imagine, is not an easy experience on popular public servers.

Origionally i thought CD3 being full was a flash in the pan but since it was setup its been full most of the time. As i said in an earlier post all i can do is keep having a look and sort the few people causing problems to try to sort it out.

[Tomi]

First thanks for the servers guys.

IMHO, there is not so much things to do. With popularity always come the bad drivers. The only solution is to have an admin online to clean a bit the server. I had some great races when an admin was present. But this is a full time job and you just can't race and moding at the same time, it just lead you to frustration because you can't manage to admin correctly and at the same time the moding prevent you from having good races.

[Thill]

[quote=birder;459602] 1) Kick to spectator is automatic if you dont move for 30 seconds, thats a lapper setting, it first warns you to move and 10 seconds later your are sent to spectate[quote]

Thats all great and all but I was in the middle of a race DRIVIG when I was kicked to spectator, read my post one more time I tried to explain the whole situation as best as I could and dont really want to do it again in this one.

On another issue I guess the whole drunken monkey was as much my fault for bad wording as you for I guess bad understanding of my intention so you said sorry to me so it is only fair I appologise to You for that :) Sorry mate next time I'll consider the more serious side of those kind of sentences before I post them :)

[Danke]

Just wanted to say thanks for running these servers and implementing the license system. I think I'm part of the quiet majority who enjoy close racing on a full server (esp. with mini-GTRs!), even if it means an occasional bump or two.

As for the time limit thing... I assume you have to be under the stated times? I ask because I ran a 53:000 the other day on CD3. I'm sure once I sober up and become less simian-like, I'll knock at least .001 off that...

[birder]

1) Kick to spectator is automatic if you dont move for 30 seconds, thats a lapper setting, it first warns you to move and 10 seconds later your are sent to spectate

Thats all great and all but I was in the middle of a race DRIVIG when I was kicked to spectator, read my post one more time I tried to explain the whole situation as best as I could and dont really want to do it again in this one.

On another issue I guess the whole drunken monkey was as much my fault for bad wording as you for I guess bad understanding of my intention so you said sorry to me so it is only fair I appologise to You for that :) Sorry mate next time I'll consider the more serious side of those kind of sentences before I post them :)

I have no idea about the spectate, lapper is the only automatic control we have on CD3. If it does it again please save the replay.

Or

Maybe it was another 1 eyed drunken monkey that has Admin access did it..... But not me.

[NotAnIllusion]

Nah it's not the only time it's happened. The lapper's told "me" to go spec for not moving, while I was traveling at about 100 mph. Also, I went AFK once and made sure I was spectating. When I got back I was being told to go spec for not moving, even though I was still spectating.

In short: The lapper can get IDs mixed up every now and then.

[Thill]

Maybe it was another 1 eyed drunken monkey that has Admin access did it..... But not me.


ehh still with the drunk monkey even thou I admited Imight have worded it wrong.. No comment.

[birder]

ehh still with the drunk monkey even thou I admited Imight have worded it wrong.. No comment.

OK then, it could have been another admin, but it was not me

[Thill]

got a replay for yo this time the message appeared "drive or spectate" (or whatever it is exacly) even thou i was already spectating , but I guess it would kick me to spectate again if I were driving.

[m.odonoghue]

i race on your server alot and i seem to be stuck in the 1:46 to 1:47 (alot of work to do) but one thing that onoys me is people joining after the start. perhaps put a no mid race join restriction on the server it would save alot of hassel and also maybe making it less racers :)

but good server

[birder]

got a replay for yo this time the message appeared "drive or spectate" (or whatever it is exacly) even thou i was already spectating , but I guess it would kick me to spectate again if I were driving.

If you can send me the replay to colin@conedodgers.co.uk

Thanks

[birder]

i race on your server alot and i seem to be stuck in the 1:46 to 1:47 (alot of work to do) but one thing that onoys me is people joining after the start. perhaps put a no mid race join restriction on the server it would save alot of hassel and also maybe making it less racers :)

but good server

We tried that but the moans were massive.

So far i have been asked to disable voting on the public servers and no midrace join.

Maybe if i do that, the Licensed drivers will move over to CD2 and CD4 where those setting will not be implemented.

I have also had several requests to move the CD1 target time down to 1:43 and CD3 to down to 0:53.5

That will still give us over 2000 Licensed drivers.

One thing i am going to do is revoke the Licenses of those who do not use the Licensed servers as it seems silly giving them a License they dont ever use.

It has also been suggested that i change the track on CD3 once a week, what do think about that idea?

[AlienT.]

Maybe if i do that the Licensed drivers will move over to CD2 and CD4 where they will not be impemented.

I have achieved the license goal of 1:44.4 a few times in the past few days both the FXR and FZR, but I cannot join CD2? I don't mind racing in CD1 anyway btw. Is there more of a requirement than achieving the target time to become licensed for CD2?

Thanks,

Struan

[Kickker]

Hi CD guys, been playing on your server for a week now.
Loving every second of it, apart from when someone started a ban vote for no reason agaisnt me.

Having asked the guy why he was trying to bad me, I was called a w***er. Which got him kicked, He then logged back on and started the vote again.

Any chance i can get the ban overturned as im getting so close to the target time.

Also isnt a straight ban a bit harsh?

Again great server guys and a great job you have been doing

[birder]

I have achieved the license goal of 1:44.4 a few times in the past few days both the FXR and FZR, but I cannot join CD2? I don't mind racing in CD1 anyway btw. Is there more of a requirement than achieving the target time to become licensed for CD2?

Thanks,

Struan

As i have said it a manual thing so you will be in the next update whenever i do it.

The update takes 2 hours so please dont chase for it

[birder]

Hi CD guys, been playing on your server for a week now.
Loving every second of it, apart from when someone started a ban vote for no reason agaisnt me.

Having asked the guy why he was trying to bad me, I was called a w***er. Which got him kicked, He then logged back on and started the vote again.

Any chance i can get the ban overturned as im getting so close to the target time.

Also isnt a straight ban a bit harsh?

Again great server guys and a great job you have been doing

A vote ban lasts 12 hours

[morcs]

I'm very grateful as well to you guys for running the servers. I just cracked 1:44.4 myself. The standard of racing on CD1 does seem to have improved anyway. :tilt:

CD3 and CD4 have disappeared from the server list for me, maybe a master server issue? I can connect by typing the name in though, and just had a good couple of races on CD4 (although it was pretty quiet).

Thanks again chaps, keep up the good work :banana:

[tade]

OK so I've done my daily laps at AS2 w/FOX and then I thought I'd join CD3 for a few more laps. And I have this guy [K]Hash_Gordon or something like that who rams me once at T1, he clearly didnt break...much. Obviously I got off the track and he overtook me.

At the next lap (@T1) he rams the guy in front of me (can't remember his name), I see it clearly, they're like 10m in front of me. Unlike my accident though, they both spin. He clearly fell on the guy, he used him as a break for god's sake! I overtake both and Gordon_whoever is like 3" behind me. He eventually catches up and does the same thing! Hits me again from behind. All within 4-5 laps.

I decided I've had enough, complain, explain and vote to kick him. The other guy (who got rammed too) joins the voting and we both explain that this Gordon_whoever is a not-so-very-clean-driver (to say the least!)

You can imagine the result... Some of his teammates start laughing at us, I get blamed for being a whiner/childish/stupid/whatever, I get insulted, being told to go to my momma and 2-3 guys (who maybe knew gordon_whoever, Doghouse was one) take his part and blame us for the crash, say that's racing, stop whining etc.

I've run about 7000 laps, joined around 700 hosts (the numbers are not so great, I know, but I'm not a new player) and never before have I seen behaviour like this. This is truly sick.

I've had enough with these servers...:grumpy:

[birder]

OK so I've done my daily laps at AS2 w/FOX and then I thought I'd join CD3 for a few more laps. And I have this guy [K]Hash_Gordon or something like that who rams me once at T1, he clearly didnt break...much. Obviously I got off the track and he overtook me.

At the next lap (@T1) he rams the guy in front of me (can't remember his name), I see it clearly, they're like 10m in front of me. Unlike my accident though, they both spin. He clearly fell on the guy, he used him as a break for god's sake! I overtake both and Gordon_whoever is like 3" behind me. He eventually catches up and does the same thing! Hits me again from behind. All within 4-5 laps.

I decided I've had enough, complain, explain and vote to kick him. The other guy (who got rammed too) joins the voting and we both explain that this Gordon_whoever is a not-so-very-clean-driver (to say the least!)

You can imagine the result... Some of his teammates start laughing at us, I get blamed for being a whiner/childish/stupid/whatever, I get insulted, being told to go to my momma and 2-3 guys (who maybe knew gordon_whoever, Doghouse was one) take his part and blame us for the crash, say that's racing, stop whining etc.

I've run about 7000 laps, joined around 700 hosts (the numbers are not so great, I know, but I'm not a new player) and never before have I seen behaviour like this. This is truly sick.

I've had enough with these servers...:grumpy:

I dont think its the servers fault, if you have a replay please send it to colin@conedodgers.co.uk so i can see. Its impossible to sort out without one.

[tade]

No, I'm not saying it's the servers' fault. It's just some people who go and drive there (especially when no admins are around). I don't have a replay, I never save my MP replays and I don't want any kind of measures taken anyway. I just wanted to say what happened.

I hope everything that needs improving in CD will improve, good luck people!

[birder]

At 8:00am this morning i updated manually both CD2 and CD4 License files

Target times were 1:44.40 for the Big GTRs and 0.53.00 for the Mini GTR's

There are now

319 Full License (All GTR's), please use CD2 or CD4
1454 Big GTR License holders, Please use CD2
610 Mini GTR License holders, Please use CD4

You can check your license on our website home page.

[morcs]

Thanks Birder :)

On to CD2 for me then tonight then! At the back of the grid :shy:

[AlienT.]

At the back of the grid :shy:

I'll be fighting you all the way for that position :)

[JohnPenn]

Just tried the CD3 server what a cracking car/track combo very enjoyable:)

[Slopi]

Thanks very much for restricting mid-race joins on CD3. Already a much cleaner atmosphere due to that. Shame the votes don't work, but I guess that's why people should race on CD4 some *HINT HINT HINT!!!*

Thanks for being flexible with your servers, CD people :thumb:

[obsolum]

Grmbl, was just racing on CD1 - until my license is sorted out, did plenty of laps below target time - running 1st, and just as I enter the final lap the server goes down http://www.easysmileys.com/img/sad_pissed.gif Only for about 10 secs or so, then everyone could join again. I don't win races that often or that easily so yeah... I was fairly pissed off by this http://www.easysmileys.com/img/sad_argh.gif I know stuff like that happens but damn it why must it happen when I'm about to win a race? :) Just needed to get it off my chest http://www.easysmileys.com/img/shrug.gif

[rich uk]

they updated to a later X patch that just came out obsolum. Would have been nice if we got some warning but oh well. least you know you got it in you now :). Hopefully race you very soon fella! your good fun and clean to boot!.

[birder]

Grmbl, was just racing on CD1 - until my license is sorted out, did plenty of laps below target time - running 1st, and just as I enter the final lap the server goes down http://www.easysmileys.com/img/sad_pissed.gif Only for about 10 secs or so, then everyone could join again. I don't win races that often or that easily so yeah... I was fairly pissed off by this http://www.easysmileys.com/img/sad_argh.gif I know stuff like that happens but damn it why must it happen when I'm about to win a race? :) Just needed to get it off my chest http://www.easysmileys.com/img/shrug.gif

Sorry but 500Servers updated the servers to X2 as soon as they became aware of the problem with X

I will be upgrading the license files over the weekend

[BmxMat]

first of all i must say a exellent well done to the CD guys!

i have been playing on CD 3 for the past few days now and narrowing my lap times down to mid 51's. i just tried to find the CD 4 server but could not find it? is it down or what?
also, the only thing that annoys me about cd 3 is the people who dont know how to deal with a blue flag ......
i went to pass someone as i was in the lead ..... honking my horn ... following him down a straight nearing a corner .... he slams on. i run into the back of him and write my car off :bump:
has happened a few times today, but like i said its all brilliant fun trying to wined your way from the back to the front.

many thanks guys

[birder]

At 11.00am on 23rd June 2007 all license file have been updated

Target times now 1:44.40 for the Big GTR's on AS3 and 0.53.00 for the small GTR's on AS1

Check you license on our website homepage

A License allows you on all servers
B License allows you drive the Big GTRs (FZR, XRR, FXR)
C License allows you drive the small GTRs (UFR, XFR)

[obsolum]

Good, I'll join CD2 later today and see if I can keep up. Although I've heard ppl on CD1 complain that there's hardly ever anyone in CD2 anymore? I went in there last night and there were 4 ppl on.

I've been thinking... Would it help if for example the really fast drivers - ie. the ones that consistently lap below 1:44 and get fastest laps of 1:42 or even 1:41 - get kicked off CD1 with perhaps a message saying to please join CD2? Since the majority of drivers on CD1 haven't yet reached the target, they never have a chance of actually competing for the top positions when there's a bunch of really fast drivers on. It kinda takes the fun out of it, I think :shrug:

I don't think it would be very hard to implement? For example, someone who runs 3 or 4 laps (out of a 10 lap race) below 1:44 gets kicked off the server. That way he won't be able to win that race anymore, and maybe he'll be more likely to join CD2. And a guy that runs one lap of 1:42 or 1:41:?? gets kicked as well because he's obviously fast enough to compete on CD2.

It's like those Counter-Strike servers for beginners they used to have on UK2.Net. If your frags would go above 11, or the difference between your frags and your deaths was more than 6 you would get a temporary ban. A "XXX was banned to protect beginners" message would then appear :)

Just an idea.

[NotAnIllusion]

I knew someone was going to suggest it sooner or later, and Birder already mentioned it earlier on. I don't really know how to word my reply, I've rewritten it a few times already :p

- Slow drivers are not really a problem as such, on a full server I expect every car I come across to be dangerous until proven otherwise.

- There is a difference between slow drivers and dangerously slow drivers. You may surely disagree here, but imo there is a limit to how slow one can drive and not become a liability. For example, 1:44.40 is a relatively clean lap, maybe a bit of under/oversteer here and there, brake points are not perfected, and the chicane is the only real hazard. That's no problem, but add another 4+ seconds to that per lap, each lap, and the driver either spins out every lap or essentially comes to a halt more than once.

- There is a difference between slow or fast drivers and careless drivers. The former make fairly obvious attempts to follow racing etiquette and use common sense, the latter do not. Common sense isn't really based on lap times imo. Regardless of whether one averages 1:45.0 or 1:41.0 it should be a given to obey blue flags (or go find out what they are when getting told off, and then obey them), not reverse down the front straight to get to the pits, not re-join into the path of other cars etc.

- Quick drivers can be nice too, share sets and tips if asked politely. They should be used as an asset, instead of segregating them from slower (read: less experienced) drivers. Ultimately, this point boils down to this: how are slow and inexperienced drivers supposed to improve, without picking up bad habits, if there are no fast, experienced drivers to contrast themselves to?

- If there was one suggestion I'd make with regards to the CD servers it would be to police the behaviour of the faster drivers a bit more aggressively. By that I mean cut down on the blue flag spam, even by CD members, and encourage patience and positiveness instead of telling people off, as well as not tolerating some of the attitude fast drivers come up with after been taken off the track. However, because I don't like to tell people how to run their own servers I'm not actually suggesting anything of the sort. ;)

- The CS analogy fails a bit imo, because über-fraggers won't give newbies a chance, ruining their gameplay experience, whereas in LFS one can have great races even in the middle or back of the pack.

[HEAVYSET]

Good points, but I thought the original idea was to give the consistently fast and clean drivers a bonehead-free server to exercise their talents on.

Hanging around the CD1 and 3 servers to "help" the inexperienced with setups and such is a noble idea, but good setups are easy to find, and for driving tips it's a no brainer to ride as a spectator via in-car view with the hot shoes in the rare instance they actually bother to use the CD2 and 3 servers.

Which leads me to agreeing with obsolum: Once you earn your CD2 and/or 4 license, you should be kicked off of 1 and 3. It's for your benefit, after all.

[NotAnIllusion]

And if they wanted to do that they'd go on CD2 without being forced, yes? Maybe they have some other reason apart from clean races for staying on CD1.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hang around CD1 to help people. I hang around because it's the only non-ss/cruise/drift server that's consistently full. Benefit depends on what I'm looking for, does it not?. If I had to choose from a full CD1 and a 5-manned CD2 I'd still go with CD1 because it's more fun to drive with that many people.

Bottom line for me is a bit selfish though, I suppose, unless the server has people in the double digits in it, I probably won't even join. If I get kicked out of CD1 and there's not 15 people on CD2, I guess that's the end of GTRs for a while for me. Someone will probably say I'm a part of the reason CD2 is empty, and they'd be right, but I play LFS to have fun. Fun is driving with many, many people. I cba to wait for ages to get 15+ people to race with me.

Oh, and, as noble as suggesting that fast drivers be kicked elsewhere for their own benefit is, I agree with myself :p

[HEAVYSET]

To each his own, but the point remains, if the option to race on CD1 and 3 was taken away once they becomed licensed, more people would be on 2 and 4. That's if they still want to race on a CD server.

The problem now is that most of them think as you do. They want to stay where the action is, on 1 and 3. It's a Catch 22 situation. There is more action on 1 and 3 because very few licensed drivers go to 2 and 4 as they should.

Limit them to 2 and 4 upon getting licensed, and you'll have plenty of competition. Unless, as I said before, for some reason they get bullheaded and don't like being confined to a particular server, and decide to boycott CD altogether. Which would make it easier for birder, because then he could shut down 2 and 4. May as well anyway, since so many are too narrow minded to take advantage of the great opportunity that is given them.

As for 15+ car races, who are we kidding here? This is road racing. I've seen a 3 car race at best. And one of those usually winds up getting dumped at the next corner. No, more often than not, those 15+ cars are strung out all over the track. Unless you get your jollies from lapping backmarkers, I fail to see how you can be "racing" that many cars. In NASCAR style, yes. Road racing, no. Road racing more often than not, is an extended qualifying session. I'm not knocking it, I love it. But I'm not fooling my self into thinking it's pack of cars racing together either. I mean if I'm running second, I'm only aware of the cars running 1st and 3rd. I'm oblivious to the others unless they get in the way becuase they are too slow. Which, of course, I wouldn't have to deal with if I were licensed and had the opportunity to go to a better server.

As a spectator, full fields provide great comedy. I'll use chase view from behind the last competitor on the grid, just to watch the mayhem that unfolds at the start.:D

[NotAnIllusion]

Well, this is getting off-topic now, but I get to race most people on the grid anyway because when I join at the back of the grid I have to race and pass most people to get to where to leaders are. Then, once I've managed to get that far and win once, I don't stay there. Instead I start from the back again :) That gives plenty of opportunity to race lots of different people, and sometimes I have good battles trying to get past people who defend well, even if they aren't aliens.

If you're oblivious to anyone but the guy in front of you and the one behind you, especially in a race with a forced pit stop, your racecraft needs a bit of work :p Nah, jk, but seriously though keep an eye on the perfect pit window and when other racers pit as well and it becomes a more tactical race too.

[HEAVYSET]

C'mon now. Let's admit the real reason most don't go over to 2 and 4. It's because they know everyone there will be as good as or better than they are. On 1 and 3, they're used to running in the top 5. If they all move to 2 and 4, they might have to settle for, shudder, being outside of the top 10.:razz: :D

[NotAnIllusion]

Ohh, the shame :o Do note that if everyone's closely matched all you'll end up with is half a lap of fighting for position and the rest of the 10 laps looking at the same guy's rear bumper with little or no passing. ;) :p

[obsolum]

C'mon now. Let's admit the real reason most don't go over to 2 and 4. It's because they know everyone there will be as good as or better than they are. On 1 and 3, they're used to running in the top 5. If they all move to 2 and 4, they might have to settle for, shudder, being outside of the top 10.

Finally, that's what I wanted to hear http://www.easysmileys.com/img/smile_nod.gifIt's not a matter of the faster drivers being a danger to the slower ones or any of the other points NotAnIllusion mentioned, really. I just get the feeling that all the really fast guys are looking for some easy wins, maybe to improve their LFSW stats a bit. The somewhat slower people who are running laps between 1:44 and 1:45 - and maybe once or twice a race a lap below target - would like to have a fair chance at a podium finish, too. At least I know I do :D It doesn't really bother me if there's just one or two guys that consistently lap 1:43 or 1:42, but sometimes I really get the impression that all the "pro's" are like "Hmm, I feel like winning some easy races, better join CD1".

It's like Heavyset said, restrict the licensed drivers to servers 2 and 4 and there'll be more people on. Hell, CD2 is the exact same combo so what possible reason could a licensed driver have to refuse to join there, other than that he doesn't want to settle for a place outside of the top 5 or 10?

[geeman1]

It's like Heavyset said, restrict the licensed drivers to servers 2 and 4 and there'll be more people on. Hell, CD2 is the exact same combo so what possible reason could a licensed driver have to refuse to join there, other than that he doesn't want to settle for a place outside of the top 5 or 10?The reason I don't join there is that it's empty most of the time. It's more fun to race with 32 people than to do hotlaps without no-one else joining. I don't think that many people are there just for the stats.
So the real reason why no-one joins CD2 or CD4 is because no-one else joins there. It's a vicious cycle.

[NotAnIllusion]

Finally, that's what I wanted to hear http://www.easysmileys.com/img/smile_nod.gifIt's not a matter of the faster drivers being a danger to the slower ones or any of the other points NotAnIllusion mentioned, really. I just get the feeling that all the really fast guys are looking for some easy wins, maybe to improve their LFSW stats a bit. The somewhat slower people who are running laps between 1:44 and 1:45 - and maybe once or twice a race a lap below target - would like to have a fair chance at a podium finish, too. At least I know I do :D It doesn't really bother me if there's just one or two guys that consistently lap 1:43 or 1:42, but sometimes I really get the impression that all the "pro's" are like "Hmm, I feel like winning some easy races, better join CD1".

It's like Heavyset said, restrict the licensed drivers to servers 2 and 4 and there'll be more people on. Hell, CD2 is the exact same combo so what possible reason could a licensed driver have to refuse to join there, other than that he doesn't want to settle for a place outside of the top 5 or 10?
It wouldn't change a thing though. It depends entirely on how you define fast and slow. All you'll end up having is the guy doing borderline licence times having easy wins against slower people, and don't tell me there aren't any who are in the 46-48 or slower bracket because there are. If this thread refers to the half-aliens who actually do dominate the wins (FZR drivers like Enzo and the like) and drive sub 42s all the time, and I think it does, the cut off should then somewhere in the 42s, not any slower than that. This is based on the following:

41s = v. fast
42s = fast
43s = competitive
44s = ok
up to 46 = slow and
upwards of 46 = too slow

[MaximUK]

The idea behind the licence system is not to create elitist servers. If there was a way to filter drivers based on attitude I am sure we would use it as the licence is just an idea to offer cleaner racing. The time of 1:44.4 is just a guess at where once you have passed it you can probably lap fairly consistently. If you start causing trouble on CD2 (or CD4) it is easier for the admins as it is likely to be caused by attitude as you will have proved a reasonable level of driving for this combo.

Remember the current system is just a temporary one and will be replaced once the intended system has been rewritten for patch X. Don't worry too much about the current system or how it can be improved because it won't be with us forever.

Maxim

[battle]

Mmm i gotta be honest, I'm a full licensed driver on CD servers but i usually join CD3 as well. It's not just because there racers there but i find it rather enjoying to race as well. This afternoon we had such good races with a couple of people there. Now i would like to join CD4 as well but that MRT in that server is kinda disturbing because if i search for FWD cars it does NOT show CD4 server because of the MRT. If i see anyone racing there i'll surely join.:)

Keep up the good work CD and don't let some 'retarded comments' discourage you:thumb:

[HEAVYSET]

If i see anyone racing there i'll surely join.:)


Haha! A common thought. It's like the old "What was first, the chicken or the egg?" argument. I can picture a hundred licensed drivers all sitting there thinking, "I'll join if someone else does." :Kick_Can_

Just joking. You all have your reasons, and I respect that.

:)

[cwomack]

First and foremost i would just like to say hello everyone as i just purchased the game and ill tell ya its a blast i must agree with birder i my self was going to race just today and ironicly there was a server message while waiting on the tree that says us common sense in T1 well as soon as i topped the hill there it was a mass mess of cars tangled up in the sand trap and i was laughing pretty hard whilst i carefully made my way through the tangle got to second turn was gearing down and about 50 meters infront of me here we go again a mangled mess of cars so i had to hit brakes a little harder this time looked in rearview and sure enough about 4 car lengths behind me here come three cars who i guess did not see the mayhem or the break lights so i get slammed into the car infront of me and put us both out of commision so out of 40 something cars theres probably only 23 left in the race so i can understand the other servers being setup for some drivers that have been in these races and can handle the mayhem and get the times so as a noob myself i appreciate the way the server is run i can see where the admin trouble could come about so i give it to you fellas you really have your hands tied i hope to get in sooner or later maybe when there arent so many cars and give it a whirl at getting my time in and a licesense so i hope to see you all soon thanks for having all of us drivers on your servers

[NotAnIllusion]

Hello and welcome :) Please, please use punctuation though. Your post is very hard to read.

[obsolum]

I seriously don't know how people manage to write such lengthy posts without a single period, comma or even a capital letter (except for the very first word). Must be some kind of supernatural ability or something :)

Anyway... http://www.easysmileys.com/img/welcome_sign.gif

[birder]

I have been reading all that is said and made a few changes.

There are a number of reasons why people use CD1 and CD3

1) Its easier to get a win
2) if you can stand the pain they are more fun
3) You mates are there.

All i ask is that the drivers who have a license goto CD2 and CD4 first, rather than the public servers.

Several things will happen if they dont.

1) Only drivers who use CD2 and CD4 need a license so if you have not been on and set a time your license will be dropped.
2) We may well reduce the number of race slots on CD1 and CD3 to 20 or lower, but leaving CD2 and CD4 at 32
3) We may well run the license program on CD1 and CD3 at busy times
4) Random kicks or drive throughs.....(lol)
5) We run the program the opposite way at busy times so Licensed drivers will not be able to join on CD1 and CD3
6) Use them or lose them......

Come on folks we are just trying to do is have some clean servers and i seriously ask that you use the correct server when you join

Thanks

[kbrn]

I haven’t read the whole thread so I’m sorry if this has been suggested already.

Why not do like the old STCC servers and restrict the public CD1 server to just the FXR (the easiest car to drive). Those that do a better time than 1:43 get a license to CD2 where all GTRs are available.

There needs to be a carrot of some sort to make people want to move over to the faster server. Since the FZR is the most popular car among the fastest drivers, they will move to CD2 for sure then.

[poirqc]

Just wanted to thank you for a well populated server with more than 5 lap.

I had fun racing tonight with pikey and captain kirk

[zeugnimod]

2) We may well reduce the number of race slots on CD1 and CD3 to 20 or lower, but leaving CD2 and CD4 at 32

I think this would increase the usage of CD2 and CD4 very much. :thumb:

[battle]

I have been reading all that is said and made a few changes.


5) We run the program the opposite way at busy times so Licensed drivers will not be able to join on CD1 and CD3


I actually think that is a really good idea, i was about to suggest that myself. Another reason why i think CD4 is always empty is because it's hard to find.... If you select FWD you won't find it because of the MRT and if the MRT is in there... well that will just make the mayhem more because about 80% of all drivers can't control that car. Why is it even there? Well Lotesdelere loves it:D.

Forcing Licensed drivers and removing the MRT would solve the problems of no drivers on CD2 and CD4 in my opinion because on CD3 more then half of the people can do 53.00 so it would be 10 racers on both servers... i think that can resolve in much better racing.

Birder, don't try to get people to listen MAKE them listen:thumb::nod:

My regards,

Tom

[Lotesdelere]

Another reason why i think CD4 is always empty is because it's hard to find.... If you select FWD you won't find it because of the MRT and if the MRT is in there...
You already posted about that and it has been changed and set to small GTR's only since yesterday evening :splat:

[Danke]

One thing that would encourage me to join CD4 would be if there was a track rotation. It doesn't have to be every two hours, maybe just once a day or every few days. I thought track changing was going to be part of the plan for CD2 and CD4.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I like a little track variety every once in a while.

[battle]

I think you in the minority. Trackrotation means more drivers who are new to the track. If this is the case there will probably be loads of accidents because people don't know the track. Not so experienced ( aka noobs ) will be able to drive a 53.00 with a reasonable set and 50 to 100 laps practice but then they know the track and will be able to control it better. If the track then changes that individuel has to drive another track without having any experience on it. I think about 70% of the racers on Conedodgers4 would 'screw up' when the track gets changed due to lack of experience.

In my opinion it would be better to just leave 1 track on. Maybe a different track then AS1 due to it being so extremly short and not allot of room. A track as AS3 with the mini GTR's can be really fun as well and also attracts allot of players and will reduce crashes because of the room the track has. It will be more boring and CD is already running 2 servers with AS3 on. It's just a idea nothing more.

My regards,
Tom

[evilgeek]

really enjoying the changes so far. big ups to the CD crew!

i must admit that i do still spend some time on CD1 even though i'm licensed for CD2. not because i want to p0wn the noobs, but rather because CD2 is often empty at the times when i'm usually online (due to my timezone).

even so, when there have been people on CD2, the racing has been close and intense, and when i've been on CD1 the fast drivers have been a lot more foregiving of accidents caused by new slower drivers. i've seen a lot fewer votes to ban people, and a lot less blue flag spam.

so i think it's working out for the better all around.

cheers

[birder]

Earlier i had chance to go to CD1 and CD2,

CD1 seemed to be far better as 80% were none licensed drivers so very few fast guys were trying to get through, there was still the odd one who thinks he knows better than everyone else but the server and racing was very good.

CD2, well i had 3 races without a single moan or hit, there was one ban for trying to win at T1 but the racing was great fun.

The biggest problem was people coming on CD2 and asking "What's CD1" or "CD1?" when they could not race.

[Sticky-Micky]

cd2 last night was actually clean IMO

although in my first race i was sent flying in T1, the rest of my races were clean and fun, no stress involved, apart from the girlfriend pestering me and asking me stupid questions

back in the bloody kitchen wench!

[blackcarmafia]

I would like 30 cars back :really:

[obsolum]

I have not joined CD1 once since I got my license. CD2 is getting fuller it seems, with 10 to 15 - maybe 20 - people on at times. Also, I haven't experienced any T1 mayhem in any of my races there, and I've had some great close fights with good drivers. :thumb:

CD2 will probably be the only server I'll be on anymore... until the CTRA servers are back http://www.easysmileys.com/img/supercool.gif

[jaws99]

I hope i get my CD 2 licence soon ive been setting times 1 second above the target for about a week now and i dont really enjoy racing at CD1. Trying to start at the back of the grid is allmost impossible at times and ive been knocked off by drivers not respecting the blue flag when leading several times.

[PapaX]

how often is the licence system updated? i'm currently waiting for my licence on CD4 ;-) Hope i'll get it soon.:nod:

[birder]

how often is the licence system updated? i'm currently waiting for my licence on CD4 ;-) Hope i'll get it soon.:nod:

I try tyo do it every Friday night but we are flooded out so i may be a bit late

[robps]

Good job you've got a boat :)

[birder]

Good job you've got a boat :)

My boat is still 80 miles away Rob, but the water has lifted my swimming pool out of the ground and has done about £60k worth of damage.

I knew something was wrong when i saw ducks swimming about on the patio, still its got to my LFS setup.

[obsolum]

I'm sorry to say but I'm through with CD. Last weekend was good fun on CD2 with 10 to 15 licensed drivers on, but during the week it's virtually always empty, save for maybe 2 or 3 drivers. Result => no fun racing (at least, I don't find it fun). CD1 on the other hand is completely full, with 70% or 80% consistently lapping 1:43's or even 1:42's. You can't even join the race 'cause it's full all the time http://www.easysmileys.com/img/sad_shakehead.gif CD2 has become completely obsolete IMO, which is very unfortunate. I don't think it can be that hard to implement a simple restriction for licensed drivers on CD1.

I'm counting the days 'till the CTRA servers are back http://www.easysmileys.com/img/wallball.gif

[PapaX]

birder, i'm sorry to hear that. don't worry about the license, i can wait a little longer:smileypul

[birder]

I'm sorry to say but I'm through with CD. Last weekend was good fun on CD2 with 10 to 15 licensed drivers on, but during the week it's virtually always empty, save for maybe 2 or 3 drivers. Result => no fun racing (at least, I don't find it fun). CD1 on the other hand is completely full, with 70% or 80% consistently lapping 1:43's or even 1:42's. You can't even join the race 'cause it's full all the time http://www.easysmileys.com/img/sad_shakehead.gif CD2 has become completely obsolete IMO, which is very unfortunate. I don't think it can be that hard to implement a simple restriction for licensed drivers on CD1.

I'm counting the days 'till the CTRA servers are back http://www.easysmileys.com/img/wallball.gif

Lets go over this one last time.

The license only prevents slower drivers getting onto CD2 and CD4 but CD1 and CD3 are PUBLIC so anyone can join, Licensed or not.

If some one want to race on CD1 and CD3 then they can, at Conedodgers we will not force anyone to do anything.

I think some people feel that having a License will fill CD2 / 4 up by magic.

If you dont want to race on ConeDodgers then please feel free to stay away but please dont moan at us when at least we have tried to do something.

As you say "you are through with CD" you wont mind if i revoke your license will you.

[JohnPenn]

I don't think it can be that hard to implement a simple restriction for licensed drivers on CD1.


SO go and setup your own server and see how much work is involved to give others FREE racing on your server and while your at It make sure you please everyone all the time:thumb:

[Rappa Z]

I was wondering. About how long does it take to get you're license after you set a lap under 1:44.40?

[birder]

I was wondering. About how long does it take to get you're license after you set a lap under 1:44.40?

Hi

Just updated the license files

We now have 3530 Licensed drivers

Please note the target times will be dropping to

AS1 - 0.52.40
AS3 - 1:44.00

for the next License update

[Slopi]

AS3 - 1:44.00

I guess that's CD1? :razz:

[robps]

I guess that's CD1? :razz:

No, thats the target time for [CD] members on server 3 :D

[SpikeyMarcoD]

No, thats the target time for [CD] members on server 3 :D

I see ....:shhh:can i become one :)

[Widdowmaker]

{CD)Birder..... you are not welcoming to your server. I am an experienced racer, who nows the flag rules....

I will not frequent your servers again..... as you obvoisly have no idea of how to control yourself - with lapped cars, or your own self.

I am seriopsly dissapointed in your attitude and ability. What did you expect me to do? I was watchning my mirrors - knew exactly where you were - but you chose to almost drive straight through me - you really should have lifted and moved up my inside where I would have let you past.

I do hope you dont treat others with the same distane.

Im very very disspaointed :(:( You give your server and your team a very bad name....

[birder]

{CD)Birder..... you are not welcoming to your server. I am an experienced racer, who nows the flag rules....

I will not frequent your servers again..... as you obvoisly have no idea of how to control yourself - with lapped cars, or your own self.

I am seriopsly dissapointed in your attitude and ability. What did you expect me to do? I was watchning my mirrors - knew exactly where you were - but you chose to almost drive straight through me - you really should have lifted and moved up my inside where I would have let you past.

I do hope you dont treat others with the same distane.

Im very very disspaointed :(:( You give your server and your team a very bad name....

You was simply asked if you understood what a blue flag was for, after you forced me off track when you were under the blue flag.

To not obey the blue flag on our CD2 licensed server is a serious rule break. If you are experienced as you say you are then why did you see the need to not obey the rules. Drivers such as you who break the rules are not welcome.

Just to recap.

From the gravel trap, after you had forced me off I sent a message "Please obey the blue flag or leave"
(I see nothing wrong with that, i do it to all drivers that i see break the blue flag rule)
You did not answer, i waited and you still said nothing
(Your mistake, a simple Sorry or Ok would do)
I asked "Do you understand?"
(I see nothing wrong with that)
You then started to blame me for you not obeying server rules
(Another mistake as it was your fault in breaking the rules)
So I kicked you from the server
(I see nothing wrong with that, i do it to everyone who does not obey the rules)

Notice you were not banned, just kicked, a kick is a warning.

[Widdowmaker]

Your recall of the events is wrong.

You might as well ban me mate - cos I aint going back on your server - and I hope that is greated with a smile.

I have never been so insulted.

I may have driven for the length of the straight seeing the blue flag - but you were no were near to passing me - you lost it - I clearly saw it in my mirrors.

There was nothing for me to apologise for. Once you brought it to my attention - you gave me no chance to discuss the issue - as you kicked me - after you asked if I was taking the P i ss...

You were out of order.

By the way - You need to loose the totallitarian Neo Nazi attitude..... The jack boots and the Sparks like tash do not suit you.....

Blame is so easy to attirbute when you have a Singlular thought process..... When are you invading Poland by the way?

[birder]

Your recall of the events is wrong.

You might as well ban me mate - cos I aint going back on your server - and I hope that is greated with a smile.

I have never been so insulted.

I may have driven for the length of the straight seeing the blue flag - but you were no were near to passing me - you lost it - I clearly saw it in my mirrors.

There was nothing for me to apologise for. Once you brought it to my attention - you gave me no chance to discuss the issue - as you kicked me - after you asked if I was taking the P i ss...

You were out of order.

By the way - You need to loose the totallitarian Neo Nazi attitude..... The jack boots and the Sparks like tash do not suit you.....

Blame is so easy to attirbute when you have a Singlular thought process..... When are you invading Poland by the way?

From that answer I think most people can get the drift why you were kicked and i am glad thats an end to the matter.

[MikeB]

By the way - You need to loose the totallitarian Neo Nazi attitude..... The jack boots and the Sparks like tash do not suit you.....

Blame is so easy to attirbute when you have a Singlular thought process..... When are you invading Poland by the way?


THERE IT IS AGAIN :D :thumb:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law)

Gratulations Widdowmaker. It took some time for Godwin to appear again :)

[birder]

THERE IT IS AGAIN :D :thumb:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law)

Gratulations Widdowmaker. It took some time for Godwin to appear again :)

I agree and thanks for pointing it out.

[HVS5b]

Cool Birder, just noticed this thread as I don't usually frequent the CD servers. Will try and confine my activities to CD's 2&4, although I'm one of those guys who can JUST make the cut-offs so..

A) go with the pros and come last most of the time
B) go with the masses and have fun overtaking/defending

Kinda depends what mood yer in on the day, doesn't it?
:scratchch

[JohnPenn]

A) go with the pros and come last most of the time



Racing with faster drivers will make you faster as well, watching the car in front disapearing into the sunset is a great motivator:D

[Tweaker]

Is there a way to know if I am licensed? My times are 1:41.xx in the races. But I don't know what my status is for having a license :tilt:

[Gaas]

Is there a way to know if I am licensed? My times are 1:41.xx in the races. But I don't know what my status is for having a license :tilt:

www.conedodgers.co.uk check on site type in your lfs username

[robps]

Is there a way to know if I am licensed? My times are 1:41.xx in the races. But I don't know what my status is for having a license :tilt:

username tweaker
license A
date 23/06/2007
comments Full Licence Holder - Any car available on CD Servers

[Crashgate3]

Racing with faster drivers will make you faster as well, watching the car in front disapearing into the sunset is a great motivator:D

Well... its not like people don't *want* to go faster...:razz: I would if I could.

[mrodgers]

The problem with this system is faster times do not equate to better racers. I may not be fast (pb in pre patchX era is 1:42ish), but I am a fair racer. I now run in the high 1:44 to low 1:45's mainly from how boring AS3 is causing lack of concentration to my lapping, but I take extreme caution to race clean and fair. If I stuff it, I'm not going to reenter in your direct path. If you are beside me, I am not going to cut you or push you off.... Time means nothing and I've seen plenty of "non-professional" drivers running below the 1:44.0 mark who I do not want racing on the same track as me.....

I force myself to start last (habit from framerate issues) and pass at least half the field by turn 2 every time I am in the Conedodger's server. Some of those are slow racers and some of those are the 1:41 guys...

[Tweaker]

The majority of fast drivers will know a thing or two about car control, and thus be seen as a good driver all around. Only a few times here and there do you get some fast drivers who race really dirty... and it wouldn't be CD's system at fault. Still something simple to be dealt with via an admin.

I know there are consistent and fair drivers that a few seconds off pace, but I think their idea is that you can get access to CD2 purely because that is the "pro" level, as stated.

[birder]

This is a Tempory system to try to sort out the mayhem that came from patch X, i think its worked but it far from perfect.

However our proper system will use full race times, not single lap times.

This system will also give points towards the LFS GTR League dependant on the number in the race and the race time.

There will also be higher points on the pro-servers. I think we are just a few weeks away.:schwitz:

[Lotesdelere]

Is there a way to know if I am licensed?
You can check if you have a license, and if so which type of license, on the ConeDodgers (http://www.conedodgers.co.uk) site main page.

Type in your LFS username into the search box and click on the Search button :)

[AeoIus]

How often is the license file updated?

Yesterday was my first real outing on the CD1 server after I've been playing mostly on CD3 and got licensed for CD4.
To my own surprise I even drove 1:43.xx in the end (and how I wish I could do that steadily :smileypul) and had a blast. Because the CD1 server was full I hoped to get into CD2 at one time which of course did not work.

I'm probably able to race a bit again tomorrow evening so I wouldn't mind if I could choose for CD2 :D

Hehe, the moment total racing time is counted I'll probably be demoted again, since I'm 'peaking' :D

[birder]

How often is the license file updated?



I try to do it each Friday, but its manual

[SpikeyMarcoD]

My times dont seem to get registered on CD1 and fine on CD3 and CD4? They are running same software? !stats does not give anything for me. You can see on LFSworld I frequently race it.

[birder]

My times dont seem to get registered on CD1 and fine on CD3 and CD4? They are running same software? !stats does not give anything for me. You can see on LFSworld I frequently race it.

It only records a time when you are faster than the target time which is set at 1:44.40. If we recorded them all there would be over 7000 by now

You are currently in the 1:45's

[SpikeyMarcoD]

I know (i get reports when beating time and looked via LFSworld) and nowhere near the times I want to drive :(. But when I am ingame !stats give me nothing???

On CD3 that works fine. Somehow the !stats does not work for me. Is that a problem for more ppl?

[birder]

I know (i get reports when beating time and looked via LFSworld) and nowhere near the times I want to drive :(. But when I am ingame !stats give me nothing???

On CD3 that works fine. Somehow the !stats does not work for me. Is that a problem for more ppl?

You get spb reports which are session based but it does not record anything until you beat the target time

[jamesrowe]

I try to do it each Friday, but its manual
Friday evening I bet mate ;) :razz:

[canardo]

first of all thanks for providing the servers I put this game on my works laptop and used an old ps2 steering wheel (original driving force) and suddenly realised just how good this game was about 2 weeks ago!
Got myself a DFP this week and thanks to some help from the people on CD3 I can consistantly get the mini round in 52.5-53.5 seconds and really enjoying it!
username is Kieran thanks to those that have helped me thus far

Going to go have a few practice laps in the bigger gtrs now and see what they are like

ps to the admins at conedodgers I am a PHP/ J2ME developer if you think theres a way I can help please ask, as my way of saying thanks for hosting the servers

[birder]

first of all thanks for providing the servers I put this game on my works laptop and used an old ps2 steering wheel (original driving force) and suddenly realised just how good this game was about 2 weeks ago!
Got myself a DFP this week and thanks to some help from the people on CD3 I can consistantly get the mini round in 52.5-53.5 seconds and really enjoying it!
username is Kieran thanks to those that have helped me thus far

Going to go have a few practice laps in the bigger gtrs now and see what they are like

ps to the admins at conedodgers I am a PHP/ J2ME developer if you think theres a way I can help please ask, as my way of saying thanks for hosting the servers

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