6 Km Straight Oval Track [Archive]

Dudles

13th June 2007, 21:07

I Think LFS should Have just like a Top Speed test-Track... theser ones with two 6+ Km straight and 2 turns... i Really Think it would be enjoyable with BF1 and the fastest cars... and we could discover UF1's Top Speed :D

Since we have Drag Tracks, I Guess it would be more enjoyable then The skidpad for example...

al heeley

13th June 2007, 21:08

-1, sounds like a really dull, unchallenging track to me...:scratchch

Taavi(EST)

13th June 2007, 21:09

Damn it, you just made me lost count how many times this has been suggested already. :(

Dudles

13th June 2007, 21:13

-1, sounds like a really dull, unchallenging track to me...:scratchch
La Sarthe Track (24h of le mans ) has a 6 km Straight and is far away of being a unchallenging track...

for me only the straight matters... i'm not worried if there are gonna be 180º consecutive turns after the straight... i just like top speeding and there's no track at LFS that we could use for it...

Highsider9

13th June 2007, 21:14

... and we could discover UF1's Top Speed :D

You can discover that without even leaving the Pitlane, in fact it has exactly the same top speed as Henry the Eighth.

IceMan31x

13th June 2007, 21:15

we need smaller ovals -----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVR3uKCsWyc

al heeley

13th June 2007, 21:32

La Sarthe Track (24h of le mans ) has a 6 km Straight and is far away of being a unchallenging track...
Certainly true, but Le mans Sarth is not 2 x 6km straights and a turn at each end.:scratchch
+1 for some smaller ovals (+1 more for a tight dirt track banked oval)

Dudles

13th June 2007, 21:40

Certainly true, but Le mans Sarth is not 2 x 6km straights and a turn at each end.:scratchch
+1 for some smaller ovals (+1 more for a tight dirt track banked oval)

as i said before, my interest is one long straight... but you need a way to get back to the start line right ? so, you make another straight bach to the begining... but as i said, could be something like La Sarthe... but could make a "mountain drift-like" track to get back... and it could be a lot interesting because you would make drifters and "top-speeders" satisfied with only one track, and not necessarily drifters making top speeders mad and vice-versa ( like drifters messing with racers' race in normal servers )

I'm sorry if my message is confusing, but I'm brazilian, and my english is a bit bad.

MAGGOT

13th June 2007, 21:40

Dudles

13th June 2007, 21:47

La Sarthe doesn't have a 6km straight; it has three straights and two large chicanes in a 6km segment.

In either case, the long straight was boring in all games. I can honestly not see the interest there.

The Chicanes were inserted just because in LM 24h race it was becoming a dangerous track. It's chicaned just like BL GP's first chicane... the straight is blocked with tire barriers... not difficult to un-chicane it... play Gran Turismo 4 for a little while and you'll see that the un-chicaned version is still there...

evilgeek

13th June 2007, 21:52

sure it would be boring to race on, but i'd like to have something like this just to satisfy my curiosity. might also be useful for certain kinds of testing.

robt

13th June 2007, 21:52

6 Km Straight Oval Track

personally ive never seen a straight circle.

Renku

13th June 2007, 21:56

We should have a track that has one neverending straight :nod:.

al heeley

13th June 2007, 22:04

A set of rollers in the garage, that would do it, a cold beer and a magazine to read while you sit there with your foot to the floor.:thumb:

Dudles

13th June 2007, 22:15

personally ive never seen a straight circle.

Sorry, I ment an Oval track with a 6 km Straight... I'm Brazilian, I'm not supposed to know the exact way to say this, as Americans are not supposed to know that Buenos Aires is in Argentina, not in Brazil ( And we usually don't like Argentinos, but that's not the point ), even if their "error" is worse then mine... But i'm sure you said this joking. :thumb:

see my point ?

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3332/imagemrc4.jpg

Fischfix

13th June 2007, 22:18

we need smaller ovals -----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVR3uKCsWyc

we need all kind of ovals in my opinion. short tracks, speedways and superspeedways AND a proper car, proper tire wear and better aero physics but yep... why not starting with a short-track on mud... however i like tarmac and concrete more: BRISTOL FOR THE WIN!

hackerx

13th June 2007, 22:37

I'd like to have some very long (2 km minimum), very flat and, obviously, very straight straight in LFS. Perhaps, to satisfy all those "boring!" people, with alternative configs with some chicanes & stuff.

Currently there's always some bends or bumps on the way, or just too short.

Though, I'm not interested in ovals at all...

Hankstar

13th June 2007, 22:49

Meh. I remember the huge test oval in GT3 - races at that track were just painful. Plus once I'd cracked 480kph+ in the Suzuki Escudo it lost its appeal pretty quick :shrug:

Maybe we could have an oval with a corner you actually have to slow down for - that would be a novelty ...

Maelstrom

13th June 2007, 23:13

Blas89

13th June 2007, 23:28

Ehra Lessien (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehra-Lessien) is cool for me...
The facility features 60 miles/ 96 kilometers of private tarmac which includes a large variety of road surfaces and curves, such known as test tracks to test vehicles. More significantly, there is an unbroken straight of 9 km in length, on which the top speed of several of the cars developed may be determined. Though this portion of the track is absolutely flat and leveled, when standing on one side of the straight, the other end cannot be seen due to the curvature of the Earth.

Hankstar

14th June 2007, 03:40

If i remember well it could go a lot faster than that! :D
Something like 700 or 800 km/h :scratchch

Like I said, it got dull after 480+ (and 99% completion - screw the Complex String RUF time trial!). That was stretching realism & credibility quite enough for me :D

Zebediah_S2

14th June 2007, 04:31

personally, i think that it would be nice to have a 6-8 mile straight followed by something very challenging.
of course there would have to be a decreasing radius turn at the end.
the kind where you can start it at 200mph and be ok, but you have to slow to like 50 before the end of the turn.

i think its a good idea
:thumb:

Hankstar

14th June 2007, 05:27

Herman Tilke in the house :D

JJ72

14th June 2007, 06:03

I would be half interested if it is something like the mecedes Untertürkheim test track.

http://images7.worldcarfans.com/classics/5070411.001/5070411.001.mini3L.jpg

Becky Rose

14th June 2007, 07:01

I cant think of anything more dull to race than a car manufacturers track. I'd rather play a labotamy simulator than most of the tracks mentioned here.

I do think the oval fans in LFS are somewhat deprived of a good oval where you have to brake, but these big ovals designed to test particular aspects of road cars ... they are not the solution. We already have an oval that you can just leave the throttle planted to the floor, we dont need another one.

Now Daytona, which has an infield, or Birmingham which has tighter banked corners ... they would make good additions. The Daytona track with the infield is pretty good in GTR2 actually, well worth having in LFS.

... but big flat ovals where the only challenge is staying awake? Try out: Tic-Tac-Toe Professional Extreme Slap Down 2007 X-Games Limited Edition. It's the game for you....

IceMan31x

14th June 2007, 07:32

World Of Outlaws came to bristol and they covered that in mud as well :D (sprint cars) 15.55 is the fastest time there. Bristol FTW!!

we need all kind of ovals in my opinion. short tracks, speedways and superspeedways AND a proper car, proper tire wear and better aero physics but yep... why not starting with a short-track on mud... however i like tarmac and concrete more: BRISTOL FOR THE WIN!

Woz

14th June 2007, 08:54

people who hate the fact you dont have to lift in the oval should try the GTT on it. A cars you have to lift with.

Hankstar

14th June 2007, 10:14

GTT? :confused:

scania

14th June 2007, 10:22

I would be half interested if it is something like the mecedes Untertürkheim test track.

http://images7.worldcarfans.com/classics/5070411.001/5070411.001.mini3L.jpg
It will be great!!!:D:thumb:
If the all place of the track like this will be wonderful!!
AND I WANT THE BUS!

Eldanor

14th June 2007, 10:30

personally ive never seen a straight circle.

Maybe he means an infinite radius circle :D

I would be half interested if it is something like the mecedes Untertürkheim test track.

http://images7.worldcarfans.com/classics/5070411.001/5070411.001.mini3L.jpg
OMFG!!!!

tade

14th June 2007, 10:36

-1 from me. We need more complex tracks, not oval ones.

Becky Rose

14th June 2007, 12:10

people who hate the fact you dont have to lift in the oval should try the GTT on it. A cars you have to lift with.
I dont know which car you are referring too, but all of the slick tyred cars can take the Kyoto oval flat out - although a brief and gentle lift can result in faster lap times and longer tyre life.

As ovals go Kyoto serves its purpose but things could be much better for oval racing in LFS with a shorter and tighter oval circuit.

FOGlegsy

14th June 2007, 12:35

A bristol replica would be perfect, as mentioned in some of the above posts.

DeadWolfBones

14th June 2007, 12:50

Pretty sure when he says GTT he means XRT.

...which doesn't make any sense.

DeadWolfBones

14th June 2007, 12:52

The ideal oval for LFS right now, I think, would be a 1-1.5mi tri-oval with a 1/8mi Legends oval in the front stretch and a 1/4mi dirt oval outside the paved oval (3 configs). I would love a Bristol replica, though.

edit: we'd definitely need a couple cars purpose-built for oval racing to make it worth it, though. a dirt modified and a NASCAR-style stock car, at least.

mrodgers

14th June 2007, 13:04

GTT=XRG GT Turbo, what we use to call the XRT back pre S2 release (S1 and S2 demo). My skin for the XRT has a GTT "emblem" on it.

As for the really long boring large straight oval track, I could care less. I can understand why some folks would enjoy having it. "Test" tracks would be interesting to play with offline, but not for racing. But since the focus is with "online racing", I doubt the devs would bother with this.

The current oval can't be compared to a high speed test track. Even though you can run around with the throttle pedal floored for the entire track, you still scrub speed off around the turns. For testing maximum top speed, you need very very long straights so you can wind it up with a high gear ratio. A gear ratio that would bog down greatly entering into any turn.

kosaka

14th June 2007, 13:15

personally ive never seen a straight circle.

Just make a road that goes all over the world... HA ! Gotcha!

-1 for me... the 6km straight sounds VERY VERY boring...

spookthehamster

14th June 2007, 13:30

funnybone2

14th June 2007, 13:34

^^^
i never knew that :thumb:

Dudles

14th June 2007, 18:42

That Mercedes picture is insane!

-1 to test track, +1 to track with a long straight (Le Mans style) I watched an onboard lap from looooooong ago and the driver was saying they used the straight to relax, but it was easy to underestimate their speed and mess up the last turn because they'd been going for so long.

Watched the same Vídeo in some TV Channel, remembered of me playing GT4 with my 900+ HP Supre Turbo and trying to reach top speed using the 6 km straight... that's why i said about having something like this... and it's a nice circuit BTW ( talking about La Sarthe )... EVEN having a boring 6 km straight...

PMD9409

14th June 2007, 19:10

Pretty sure when he says GTT he means XRT.

...which doesn't make any sense.

Just wondering, why doesn't the XRT on the oval make any sense?

DeadWolfBones

14th June 2007, 20:47

Just wondering, why doesn't the XRT on the oval make any sense?

I meant that it doesn't make any sense that you'd have to throttle off or use brake in the XRT. Sounds like a setup problem if you do.

PMD9409

14th June 2007, 20:59

I meant that it doesn't make any sense that you'd have to throttle off or use brake in the XRT. Sounds like a setup problem if you do.

Well in a hotlapping circumstance yes you can, but not when you are racing. There is 1 or 2 lines where you can actually go wide open in it (but only by yourself), makes for some good racing if you ask me:nod:. Maybe some "oval junkies" here should try doing XRT around the oval in a race (not alone because anything on the oval alone gets boring).:)

And if you do try, have fun being fast by not doing the low line in the last turn :tilt:.

anarchypredator

14th June 2007, 21:27

Wow :schwitz:amazing!

DeadWolfBones

14th June 2007, 23:22

The LX6 or other LRF cars... now those you really have to back off for.

Fischfix

14th June 2007, 23:37

World Of Outlaws came to bristol and they covered that in mud as well :D (sprint cars) 15.55 is the fastest time there. Bristol FTW!!

is that because of the rebuilding of the track. i've heard they are going to brake down the whole track and rebuild it with logarithmic bankings.