TEST Patch W35

[Scawen]

WARNING 1 : THIS IS A TEST

WARNING 2 : SOME SKINS ARE CONVERTED THE FIRST TIME YOU RUN THE TEST PATCH - IT CAN TAKE A FEW MINUTES

Hello Racers.

Here is a new test patch W35. It is incompatible with versions earlier than W34, so earlier test patch hosts should upgrade. Thank you! :)

Please see the list of changes below.

Here is some information about the major changes in this series of test patches :

- Preload added to clutch pack differentials improving handling
- The number of cars that can join a race has been increased to 32
- False starts are now possible (LFS does not hold you at the start line)
- Skin improvements including high resolution premium skin download service
- Global class balancing system (currently applied to GTR and TBO classes)
- A new version of InSim including many improvements and a button interface

There are various improvements related to skins including the option to download high resolution skins while online, for a small charge of £1 for 2000 downloads. The low resolution downloads are still free. We have to charge for the downloading of high resolution skins because of the increased bandwidth and the need to buy and maintain more internet servers for LFS online usage which is always increasing. Please note, we are not selling skins. The skins remain the property of their owners. Your copy is a high resolution compressed version of the original. This is a charge purely for the downloading service which allows you to see other cars' skins in higher resolution.

Downloaded skins are now always saved and shown in compressed form. The original jpg is not saved on other computers. This allows the best use of memory and the quickest load from disk.

To use your own jpg skins, or to view skins that you manually download, save them into your skins folder - you will then find them selectable in game, just as before. You can see your manually downloaded skins compressed or not compressed according to the option for local skins. There are now 4 skins folders but you can ignore them all, just forget about them and just use the skins folder as usual.

skins : you save jpg skins that you want to select in game
skins_dds : lfs uses this to store dds (compressed) versions of your local skins
skins_x : lfs stores automatically downloaded low res skins
skins_y : lfs stores automatically downloaded high res skins

If you want to use this service, you can make a payment at www.lfsworld.net or at the main site http://www.lfs.net/?page=shop

To deal with the increased memory usage, there is also a skin purging system which removes unneeded skins from your graphics card memory, some time after they were last used. You can see the list of skins in use in the Misc Options screen. White means the skin is actually in use. Black means it was recently used and is hanging around a while in case it is used again (to avoid a disc access). In the past, LFS just left all skins in memory until you changed track or weather.

Changes in TEST PATCH W35 :

Admin penalties, pitlane commands and rcm are now recorded in SP Replays
Code page names are now translatable (for switching keyboard layouts)
InSim : Added "always on" option and better control of the clear area

FIX : Dedicated host could stop responding to typed messages and commands
FIX : Occasionally you could not start a race with AI after practicing
FIX : Penalty given during pit stop would make the pit stop never end
FIX : Overtaking lesson could sometimes give an invalid lesson result
FIX : In lesson 81 you needed to park 5 times to complete the lesson
FIX : AI drivers left pit speed limiter on after leaving pit lane
FIX : AI drivers ignored the pit lane speed limit

Changes in TEST PATCH W34 :

Qualifying outlap is no longer added to qualifying table
MPR file format : result times now saved in milliseconds
Removed "unknown finisher" and its stats / insim issues
Command /mprdir to specify mpr folder on dedicated host

FIX : Pit instructions were wrong when taking over a car
FIX : Long messages could sometimes get cut short
FIX : W33 bug - could not play hotlap replays

Changes in TEST PATCH W33 :

Practice sessions now start from pits (like qualifying)
First lap time of qualifying or practice is not displayed
Removed inset button from escape menu shortcut keys text
Improved connection - less likely to fail to join a host
Can now save MPR from dedicated host (auto or manual)

FIX : /end command in single player did not exit correctly

InSim : ISS_VISIBLE no longer changes due to text entry dialog box
InSim : IS_PEN packets now sent on autox false start or wrong route
InSim : Total time penalty is now included in IS_RES (compatible)

Changes in TEST PATCH W32 :

Command line command /player (start LFS with specified player name)
Startup skin conversion now shows progress and skin being converted
New command /wait (like /exec but LFS hangs until the program exits)
New InSim buttons system allowing better interface in InSim programs
Various other InSim updates - nearly all compatible with W26 InSim

FIX : Helmet jpg skins didn't appear in list in uncompressed skins mode
FIX : Damaged AI drivers could get stuck if two nearby wanted to reset
FIX : Single Player Replay of qualifying session did not work
FIX : Replay OOS error when using a voluntary handicap

Changes from W to W26 :

Multiplayer :

Up to 47 guests can connect to a host
Max cars in multiplayer race increased to 32
In demo still only 12 racing but up to 15 can connect
Car is no longer held at start line - false starts possible
Start lights time between red and green is changed each race
Avoided most of the "Can't x - a player is connecting" messages
Implemented a new "canreset" option while leaving hotlaps valid
Automatic spectate if you drive out of bounds when reset not allowed
Global handicaps for class balancing (set by master server)
Remote car's handicap shown in F11 menu, tyres in F12 menu
Grid reordering is now done on end race as well as restart
Kick and ban votes are held open a little longer

Racing :

Start and pit fuel loads range from 1% to 100%
Qualifying sessions now start from the pit lane
Qualifying out lap is no longer counted as a valid lap
Single player now allows up to 20 ai cars (powerful pc)
Pit instructions and live settings work in single player
SHIFT+G gear shift selection no longer stops SP recording
New voluntary handicap system in pits (part of setup)
Added preload setting to clutch pack differentials

Display :

Small map colours can be changed : Options-Display-Interface
Small map cars more than one lap ahead are a different colour
Automatic show results - leaves small map visible when driving
Hide / show results removed from options - now available on CTRL+TAB
Timing info is show in yellow after winner crosses line or time over
Yellow finished message is no longer duplicated in central text
Connection bars are not drawn if they would obscure tyre info
Qualifying cars on out lap are drawn orange (others yellow)
Qualifying position is shown in yellow like race position
Added text on screen showing the reason for a penalty
Display option : Virtual steering gauge
Display option : Rotate small map

Interface :

Added button to spectate directly from pits
Supporting TrackIR with 6 degrees of freedom
Scroll though autocross results with PgUp / PgDn
SHIFT+P now enters garage from game setup screen
SHIFT+O now enters options when watching a SP replay
New keys SHIFT+S (spectate) and SHIFT+P (go to pits)
Button look is now added to the yaw output of TrackIR
Automatic unpause when starting or restarting a replay
Ignition key "I" is now assignable to any key or button
Removed the sound effect of a racer pitting or spectating
Pit instructions fuel load can now be adjusted in 1% steps
Escape menu improvements : can use keys (listed on screen)
Race control message now has priority over wrong way message
Wider FOV and more view pitch available (for extreme settings)
Filter added to list of games to avoid hosts which allow reset
Place objects is now switched off when entering race or qualifying
FIX : Start restriction countdown was missing from OK button in pits
FIX : Q / X / ESC / ENTER keys did not exit from pits if player in race

Skins :

Replay skins download screen new "always" and "never" options
High res premium skin download system (£1 for 2000 downloads)
System to purge skins from graphics card memory when not used
Skin download and preload during connection after loading track
Improved the "new colours" system - combined with skin selection
Skins in skins folder are not converted to dds if using full skins

InSim :

New version of InSim allows up to eight TCP or UDP connections
More race tracking info and many packets added (see InSim.txt)
More commands now work on AI drivers : /spec /pitlane /p_xxx
More commands work even if player joining e.g. /spec /laps
New /i command to send a message to a race control program
Race penalty can now be removed with /p_clear command
Send all players to their pits with /pit_all command
Admins can now use the IS_REO (race reorder) packet
New packet IS_MSX - allows typing of longer messages
New packet IS_MSL - output a message on local computer

System :

Removed the option not to use HVS if it is available
Better messages showing the reason for disconnection
Admins can now edit and /axsave layouts while online
Admin ban dialog now asks for a number of days to ban
Admins can now see other admins in list of connections
Added short track name to SPR, MPR and RAF file formats
Added handicap mass and restriction to hotlap file header
Increased maximum physics objects due to more cars on track
Start grid remains when track or config changes (if possible)
FIX : Removed the need to pass a split after receiving admin penalty
FIX : The TAB key did not work with /press /ctrl and /shift commands
FIX : Autocross checkpoints in line could cause rapid lap count bug
FIX : Path followers were reset when an object was added or removed
FIX : Path follower reset caused a glitch or an out of bounds reset
FIX : Some objects were not drawn after exiting pits while paused
FIX : Start lights were not shown in some of the training lessons
FIX : Autocross layout number of laps sometimes did not load
FIX : Message "NETWORK FATAL : NOTSOCK" when joining a host
FIX : Find user in S2 mode looking for racer on S1 host
FIX : Occasional crash when exiting from List of Games

DOWNLOAD :

PATCH (Version W must already be installed) :
www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_TEST_W35.exe

ZIP VERSION (If you prefer a zip file) :
www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_TEST_W35.zip

DEDICATED HOST (for hosting only) :
www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_S2_DEDI_W35.zip

[illegal]

Good going :)

/me tests

[Belain]

thanks to cryton for reminding us all of that in irc quakenet channel #liveforspeed

:)

keep up the good work scawen!

[r4ptor]

Barely finished W33 download, and then I saw this. Me likes fast updates :D

[Dj-Aeri]

Why is W34 incompatible?

[Montabur]

its same incompatible as W33 to W i think

[zockmachine]

what does this actually change?

"MPR file format : result times now saved in milliseconds" :shrug:

[zurdospeed]

Hi, the text of Hotkeys in the ESC menu has the same colour slider than the rest of the menu (Text Unselected). If I want to change only the colour of the hotkeys I end up with all the menu changed :(

This pic is from demo, but in FZR you nearly cant see any Hotkey if colour is black

[DANDAMAN05]

to verify... this is incompatable with w33 and below?
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"Here is a new test patch W34. Because of some important fixes, it is incompatible with all previous W versions, so hosts involved in testing should upgrade. Thank you!"


Sorry... just seen that :)

[hackerx]

what does this actually change?

"MPR file format : result times now saved in milliseconds" :shrug:
This doesn't concern you unless you are writing program to parse .mpr files. Previously times in MPR header were MSHT I think.

[HogaMan]

Thanks for new test patch, its great.
I have a problem with LFS and I know some other people do to.
Say 1/5 times I connect to a server I get a black screen, I would like to know why this happens.
Cheers.
[HR] HogaMan

[d.i.b]

Hi,

i have since w32 big lag problems :( . But my ping is <100 . This happens on each server. See replay.

Thx for help!

EDIT:

Sorry! i think i found a solution, it was my firewall (kaspersky internet security on vista home prem, 32bit)

[Nathan_French_14]

Thanks for this patch. Running nice and smooth :thumb:

Just one quick question, when is Patch X planned on being released?

frenchy

[AndroidXP]

Just one quick question, when is Patch X planned on being released?As mentioned and posted numerous times beforehand, it is planned to be released on June 1st.

[ORION]

When you are in the pits, making a pitstop, and get a drive through penalty, you are stuck forever as your pitstop doesnt end. This was seen in the 24h race. The penalties were given by admins with /p_dt username.

[SpikeyMarcoD]

Found a bug. Dont know if its a re-occurring one. See attached pic. It is in race mode but still thinks its in practice and thus no AI availabla. I have done a pratice before, but even on another track. Same car though. Also LFS has been closed before, so its a new session.

[MarioX]

SpikeyMarcoD, I think that's because now practice starts from the
pits and so the AI will be available only in race... nvm if that's not the case :x

[AndroidXP]

SpikeyMarcoD, I think that's because now practice starts from the
pits and so the AI will be available only in race... nvm if that's not the case :x
The point is, in the screenshot neither practise nor qualify are selected, and it still doesn't allow to add AI ;)

[SpikeyMarcoD]

And another one. Doing some singleplayer to get used to new cars :) Its more an inconvenience actually. Before if i pressed one a replay ran LFS changed to camera/tv mode. And if i pressed SHIFT R for a restart the view came back to in car. Now it needs a manual V to correct. So if its supposed to OK but i think its a slip that somehow got intoduced?


EDIT: cant seem to reproduce so maybe i did something wrong?

[MarioX]

The point is, in the screenshot neither practise nor qualify are selected, and it still doesn't allow to add AI ;)

yep, you're right, should have looked closer :shy:

[hackerx]

Noticed a bug with dedi server. After it has been running for some time, you can't enter commands & messages any more. That is, you can type text in and see it, press Enter, text disappears, but nothing happens.

[GeForz]

Found a bug. Dont know if its a re-occurring one. See attached pic. It is in race mode but still thinks its in practice and thus no AI availabla. I have done a pratice before, but even on another track. Same car though. Also LFS has been closed before, so its a new session.
That errormessage is missing if oyu start a multiplayer race with compulsatory pit stop and AI drivers.

[Widdowmaker]

Just racing on W34 - Dead Men rRacing server.

I joined the server on lap 2. Was running 20 lengths infront of the lead pack - Just dropping in and out of the blue flag region for 2 laps - but entering the final straight - I took to the pits for a compulsary pitstop. (also to clear out of way of leaders). Leader then chose to pit behind me.

I had blue flags going into the pits. On leaving I still left infront of the leader - only about 10 car lengths - but didnt get blue flags till after the chicane and heading up the hill to the hairpin (AH National Rev).

Should have had blue flags on leaving pits immediatly.

Didnt get a replay as I disconned just after the race finished (totally unexpectedly)

One of the chaps has saved the replay - hopefully it shows.

[Vagner]

Scawen,

In Training, lesson 81 - Oval Testdrive - XR GTR we need to park between barriers 5 times to finish the lesson.

[SpikeyMarcoD]

Scawen,

In Training, lesson 81 - Oval Testdrive - XR GTR we need to park between barriers 5 times to finish the lesson.


Would be nice if results are saved on LFS world. Did some of them today on test patch. If i do them on regular LFS they are still shown as not completed. So test scores would not be lost with reinstall/patch.

Just some extra for the never ending list :). Wrong topic i know, but since its related to this bugreport.

[Scawen]

Thanks all for the testing. Most of the few bugs reported sound like they will be reproducable - not too worrying.

Noticed a bug with dedi server. After it has been running for some time, you can't enter commands & messages any more. That is, you can type text in and see it, press Enter, text disappears, but nothing happens.This one sounds... not so reproducable. Or is it? Would I just need to run a dedi for a while, or do I need to join and leave? Any ideas on the simplest way to make this happen? If I can make it happen easily then I'll be able to see what's up in the debugger.

[XCNuse]

I found a bug, I'm not sure how easily it can be reproduced, but I just happened to be messing with the AI, and I discovered in the XRR that if they do not get boost up high enough, the hand brake holds them at the start.

Guessing this has been a problem since false starts, not sure if it has been reported or not.

Watch the periwinkle AI 2nd to last. (it also occurs to the red AI infront of me but I hit it)

[sinbad]

I'm wondering how the timing for the lights works, because on occasion I've seen one (sometimes 2) cars make unfathomably good starts without penalty, and the rest of the field get away as per usual. Unfortunately the start "lag/stutter" makes it impossible to tell whether they just pre-empted it and guessed spot on or the rest of the field just made an equally crappy start, or the fast started saw a green light sooner than others did.

[felplacerad]

Noticed a bug with dedi server. After it has been running for some time, you can't enter commands & messages any more. That is, you can type text in and see it, press Enter, text disappears, but nothing happens.

Do you mean into the dedicated server window or logged in at the server as a host? I can not try typing messages or commands directly into the dedi because my servers are /dedicated=invisible (linux). I've obviously tried reproducing the bug logged in as an admin but it seemed to be working fine. The servers have been online since W34 was released and there has been some activity throughout the evening ...

[Widdowmaker]

I'm wondering how the timing for the lights works, because on occasion I've seen one (sometimes 2) cars make unfathomably good starts without penalty, and the rest of the field get away as per usual. Unfortunately the start "lag/stutter" makes it impossible to tell whether they just pre-empted it and guessed spot on or the rest of the field just made an equally crappy start, or the fast started saw a green light sooner than others did.

Well - there is the theory that you can still "count off" the lights. For example - if you gauge the timing between the red lights coming on - and continue the count - you can almost exactly predict the green.

The randomness of the timing on the greens is not great enough.

This theory is trying to be proved now on the server.

[hackerx]

This one sounds... not so reproducable. Or is it? Would I just need to run a dedi for a while, or do I need to join and leave? Any ideas on the simplest way to make this happen? If I can make it happen easily then I'll be able to see what's up in the debugger.
There has to be some activity before this happens. Today it was running for few hours, max 3 people connected & there were few races. And I've noticed this bug quite few times already, since W26 I think.

Guess I test this some more tomorrow to find easy way to reproduce.

And yes, this is directly with dedi server, not when connected as admin.

[Scawen]

Thanks and good luck, I've made a note to look in the code in the morning, to try and see any way that text could be entered but not processed.

[DeadWolfBones]

This MPR was taken last night in W33. I just viewed it in W34 and, well, you'll see... some very weird stuff going on. I don't really know how to describe it.

edit: I just realized (part of) what's wrong with it... the MPR was taken at AS North, but the replay appears to be attempting to display it on AS Cadet.

[mkinnov8]

This MPR was taken last night in W33. I just viewed it in W34 and, well, you'll see... some very weird stuff going on. I don't really know how to describe it.

edit: I just realized (part of) what's wrong with it... the MPR was taken at AS North, but the replay appears to be attempting to display it on AS Cadet.

Huh! yes, can confirm viewed on w33, displays at described above. Never seen that before.

[hackerx]

Did some testing for that dedi text entry bug. It seems to be somewhat random, but most of the time appears as follows:

start dedi
connect
join
start race
(perhaps drive few metres...)
leave

Now commands entered into dedi are ignored, but just noticed that after some tries this bug can go away. That is, it may ignore 1 line, 20 lines or more but then suddenly starts working again.

[ninja469]

Thanks all for the testing. Most of the few bugs reported sound like they will be reproducable - not too worrying.

This one sounds... not so reproducable. Or is it? Would I just need to run a dedi for a while, or do I need to join and leave? Any ideas on the simplest way to make this happen? If I can make it happen easily then I'll be able to see what's up in the debugger.


Hi Scawen, this has been going on for sometime on my servers both patch W and the test patches. It normally happens after the server has been up for a few hours. A few times it has happened after you type a msg then straight away type another only to have nothing happen. I'm not sure if it's because i run teamspeak aswell and my push to talk button is the delete key and I sometimes use it while the lfs server is the current window.
It seems that if I connect to the server and enter a few admin commands it will start working again.
But it's hard to make it happen all the time so good luck trying to find the cause.

[PMD9409]

I can also confirm the dedi bug. After a while of playing on the server I can enter a message and nothing appears. Of course this happens after the server has been on for a while, but it is reproducable.

[Unforgiven]

Hi Scawen, this has been going on for sometime on my servers both patch W and the test patches. It normally happens after the server has been up for a few hours. A few times it has happened after you type a msg then straight away type another only to have nothing happen. I'm not sure if it's because i run teamspeak aswell and my push to talk button is the delete key and I sometimes use it while the lfs server is the current window.
It seems that if I connect to the server and enter a few admin commands it will start working again.
But it's hard to make it happen all the time so good luck trying to find the cause.

I have also had this problem with the [MPR] server. It has been around for a while as ninja stated. Funny thing is that for me admin commands seem to work. Just no chatting. I haven't really had time to look into it and just ignored it because we dont really log in to the dedi too much because it runs through a VNC server to access. Also If we do we just use admin commands.

[Scawen]

Did some testing for that dedi text entry bug. It seems to be somewhat random, but most of the time appears as follows:

start dedi
connect
join
start race
(perhaps drive few metres...)
leave

Now commands entered into dedi are ignored, but just noticed that after some tries this bug can go away. That is, it may ignore 1 line, 20 lines or more but then suddenly starts working again.Thank you for this reproduction method. I was able to reproduce and debug it. It was an unnecessary anti-message-spam timer which was not reset correctly when the game timer was adjusted after the last player left. I've simply removed this antispam timer, it's not needed on a dedicated host.

[RudolfR]

I think that the "Ready 4..3.." should be removed from quali :)

[jjones]

Hi i installed the test patch last night, everthing was running fine, Today i was racing on fex with about 12 a1 cars and all of a sudden everthing turned white exept the body of the cars, Not sure if its a problem with my graphics card its only a ati 7000 64 mb, never had any problems like this before. any idea's.:shrug:

[matze54564]

I need sometimes the pedal-bars for visual control of pedals, the new small pedal-bars are a bit 2 small for me.

[Lotesdelere]

the new small pedal-bars are a bit 2 small for me.
I agree, as they are now they are even a bit useless, especially on CRT's.

[Dj-Aeri]

Bug.

During game, if you press Shift + Ctrl to see the hour, the temperature of the wheels changes and the list of other drivers dissappears.

[felplacerad]

Not a bug.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=22279

[AndroidXP]

Bug.:doh: That's a feature, at least the temperature one is.

Pressing Ctrl+Shift in the F9 menu shows the tyre surface temperature, instead of the average temperature over the whole tread thickness, and in the player list it shows the user's LFS licensed name, instead of the one he set up in Options > Player.

[SpikeyMarcoD]

Something i have always not specifically W34. I cant basically use F9 menu in race. My FPS disappears from sometimes above 100 to around 10 I have to quickly shut it off sometimes using F10 also to restore FPS.

Sound familiar? I have an ATI card XT 850 pro just for reference.

[GFresh]

Something i have always not specifically W34. I cant basically use F9 menu in race. My FPS disappears from sometimes above 100 to around 10 I have to quickly shut it off sometimes using F10 also to restore FPS.

Sound familiar? I have an ATI card XT 850 pro just for reference.


Do you have FRAPS installed by any chance? F9 is the default video capture key, that would slow down as you described.

[SpikeyMarcoD]

Do you have FRAPS installed by any chance? F9 is the default video capture key, that would slow down as you described.

OOPS ok... well thnx

[LupusC]

Sorry if I'm asking somthing that was solved in another thread but I couldn't find how to get the best laps of drivers currently racing.

Before the new patches they were shown beneath the race time and the current lap time. When spectating or during training I used to check the best lap times of the other competitors. But how do I get that information now?

If this question was solved in another posting I'm sorry.

[AndroidXP]

Sorry if I'm asking somthing that was solved in another thread but I couldn't find how to get the best laps of drivers currently racing.

Before the new patches they were shown beneath the race time and the current lap time. When spectating or during training I used to check the best lap times of the other competitors. But how do I get that information now?

If this question was solved in another posting I'm sorry.I'm just guessing here, but did you try pressing Ctrl+Shift?

[Ramses]

Just joined a server that was patched to 35. No one was on there at the moment but within seconds others joined. Everyone was on ventrilo at that moment and I verified who was there but the list with joined players didn't show up. So I could only see tthe players that actualy joined the race. AFter the racers that joined the race had readied and qualy started, it looked all fine but something is wrong with the entry screen.

The players were mixed 34/35 patched and no consistency there.

Quickly skimmed the messages here to see wether it was already posted. Sorry if I missed it.

[rediske]

bug: (inconvenience rather)

go hotlapping, on the track, press shift-p and it shows 'spectating' button although it doesn't make any sense in HL ... :shrug:

hope I could help

[traxxion]

Just installed W35 for our server and everytime I select "Aston Cadet rev" as a track, and try to change the amount of laps, it tells me it's an autocross track:
Autocross : fixed number of laps

Seems to be ok for other tracks so far... gonna test a bit more-->

EDIT: Seems there is a layout pre-installed here?

[Scawen]

Just joined a server that was patched to 35. No one was on there at the moment but within seconds others joined. Everyone was on ventrilo at that moment and I verified who was there but the list with joined players didn't show up. So I could only see tthe players that actualy joined the race. AFter the racers that joined the race had readied and qualy started, it looked all fine but something is wrong with the entry screen.Thanks, that is the first report of that.

It's new in W35, just a small mistake I made today. Now fixed in my version.

[Scawen]

...and try to change the amount of laps, it tells me it's an autocross track:
Autocross : fixed number of laps
...
EDIT: Seems there is a layout pre-installed here?That message should only be the case if you have an autocross start position. Not just a layout with some objects lying around, but a real autocross layout.

[traxxion]

That message should only be the case if you have an autocross start position. Not just a layout with some objects lying around, but a real autocross layout.
I'm sorry, it seems this was a layout that had been installed on our server some patches ago!
/axclear did the trick

No bug! :)

[MarioX]

This (bug?) was always in lfs as it seems, but became more obvious after w33 - "First lap time of qualifying or practice is not displayed". On reverse configs practice lap timing never began on the first lap(unlike on normal configs). Now on your outlap from the pits it says "1" and starts timing on the second lap on normal configs, but on reversed ones the outlap from pits is "nothing" or "0th" lap, then the second lap is 1st and only on the 3rd the clock starts :scratchch
(it happens because "1" lap starts only when the car crosses s/f line while driving through the pitlane, but that depends on the position of the starting garage relative to the s/f line - is the garage before or after it)

p.s. sorry if it is supposed to be so... :shy:

[HogaMan]

Like the new patch.
Milisecond qualifying was meant to be in W34 I have seen none offline and online, would this have something to do with LFS World?
Thanks HogaMan.

[micha1980de]

hello, i got 2 things circling...

1 i got that laptime twice today (while online racing), and once yesterday...(see pic)
2 is it normal that i need to set handicap weight to one and then to zero to eliminate any handicaps from a setup?
because i carried 20kg in the xrt-bl-forward set, did some testing, but couldn't get rid of it anymore, till today...

that's it...

[Dj-Aeri]

Not a bug.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=22279

OMG, I seem a noob.

Thanks for the explanation :)

[Milanche]

I think I found a bug. I was practicing XFG on Blackwood GP and I hit some barrier went straight on a roof and the car reset it's self like everything was normal without any damage and i got a message similiar to Blue flags etc that says "Retired". Maybe its a bug and maybe not :).

One more thing also on Blackwood track. There is like a hole on blue and white fence you can see it clearly and go trough with a small car like XFG. Is it there to leave pits easier or what??? :tilt:

Cheers

Attached picture and mpr file with the car reset.
Sorry if you already know about this just trying to help ;).

it's W34 btw.

edit: I just saw that hostname disappeared from connection list next to my name. It happened on my online server aswell. Added picture sss.

[vari]

Connection list vanished from entry screen after I updated to w35, both client and host.

[BenjiMC]

was just doing some testing, then i windowed LFS and the screen went black, i unwindowed it and it didn't change. ok now though. :shrug:

[DEVIL 007]

Almost 0 percent suspension damage with front hit at 180Km/h?
Quite strange to me.Please check the replay at the end and check suspension damage after the hit.

[Scawen]

This (bug?) was always in lfs as it seems, but became more obvious after w33 - "First lap time of qualifying or practice is not displayed". On reverse configs practice lap timing never began on the first lap(unlike on normal configs). Now on your outlap from the pits it says "1" and starts timing on the second lap on normal configs, but on reversed ones the outlap from pits is "nothing" or "0th" lap, then the second lap is 1st and only on the 3rd the clock starts :scratchchThanks, I've now fixed it in my version. Seems like it was only in practice though, not qualifying.

Like the new patch.
Milisecond qualifying was meant to be in W34 I have seen none offline and online, would this have something to do with LFS World?
Thanks HogaMan.No, timing is still done in hundredths, I just changed a file format to use milliseconds instead of M,S,H,T.

1 i got that laptime twice today (while online racing), and once yesterday...(see pic)
2 is it normal that i need to set handicap weight to one and then to zero to eliminate any handicaps from a setup?
because i carried 20kg in the xrt-bl-forward set, did some testing, but couldn't get rid of it anymore, till today...That lap time I've just made invisible now, it's the thing LFS uses internally to show that first lap of qualifying or practice is not to be counted. Only, I should not display it.

I don't know what you mean about the handicap problem, you should be able to simply move the slider to adjust it. Is it possible to reproduce the problem you found?

Connection list vanished from entry screen after I updated to w35, both client and host.No problem, that one is already reported and fixed in my version.

[[d9]]

ive spot this bug much eralier - on attached images you can see it with dedi W0. you type something, press enter, command disasppears and nothing is executed... (it happends when server runs for longer time 1+ days i think, spotted with remote desktop (only) usage (im absolutelly not sure, possible can be a windows bug - different mapping of enter key...), lapper is running here)

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Noticed a bug with dedi server. After it has been running for some time, you can't enter commands & messages any more. That is, you can type text in and see it, press Enter, text disappears, but nothing happens.

[Scawen]

Thanks, but that is already fixed in W35.

[[d9]]

oh, sorrry, ill try to be more carefull next time in reading FIX lists...

and please - cosmetic improvement suggestion - other than black colour background of dedi window - to be visible black nick names too?

thanx and good night :x

Thanks, but that is already fixed in W35.

[Scawen]

Thank you for the feedback and bug reports.

I've done some fixes and updated to W36.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=25134