Season 2: Lfscar Race 1: Kyoto -130° on Monday 28th of May, 18.15 UTC

[Fischfix]

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LFSCAR 360degree.tk CUP SERIES SEASON 2: RACE 1
Hi gentlemen,

On Monday 28th, 18.15 UTC/GMT we will start with the first event of the LFSCAR 360degree.tk CUP SERIES, the KYOTO -130. We will race on the server:
"(FM) 360° EVENT!" which runs under the latest test patch available at 15.00 UTC. so make sure you have a copy of LFS with that patch ready.

Qualifying starts at 18.15 UTC/GMT.
1 outlap 2 fastlaps followed by a 6 lap sprint race with flying start

If we have more then 18 drivers on the server we will have a 20 min. open qualifying instead and no sprint race at all just to make the whole event not too long.

Track: Kyoto Oval Reverse
Length: 130 laps
Special: No car-reset, flying start under double file
Layout: NO Barriers at all, so keep your car behind the yellow line for pitting in and exiting. any crossing of the yellow line with more then one wheel while pitting in or out will result in a 5 point penalty. you are allowed to cross the line if you got wrecked.

Skins:
As not everyone has uploaded a skin so far, please make sure you have a proper skin ready for tomorrows event which contains at least YOUR CAR NUMBER BIG ENOUGH AND READABLE ENOUGH ON THE ROOF OF YOUR CAR.

Rules:
Please make sure you check out the rules-section again in the forum or on the website as we made some changes as a result of the warm-up event. the most important things are:

- NO DOUBLE FILE RESTARTS (but the first start is double filed)
- "GREEN FLAG!!!" means race is FREE , so you don't have to wait until finish line to overtake when you see the message
- Pacecar-Speed is 120km/h, 150km/h in last lap of the caution phase
- No caution during last 3 laps of the race
- "Lucky Dog" rule is still there
- Voice-chat isn't mandatory anymore
- Voice-chat: keep silence in the "Event" Channel

thanks to [FM]Blaster for being clerk of the course for tomorrows race and of course Orgi for doing the pacecar.

i hope to see as much as possible of you tomorrow
for the race.


This is the thread for any discussion to the first event of lfscar 360degree.tk cup series SEASON 2.

[faster111]

Am in or what?

[11SuLLy11]

Cant wait :)

[Fischfix]

everyone who is not sure about the starting procedure or pacecar procedure be on the server earlier, so we can do some practice starts/restarts.

i wish good luck to all drivers (including myself) and a great series. MAY THE SCHWARZ BE WITH YOU :thumb:

[Leifde]

Yeah, good luck everybody. I seem to be running ~35.2s on my own, with the odd ~35.1s lap, still 6-7 tenths off the WR, how does that fit in with everyone?

[scoobyrbac]

what time does it start? im USA on EST

Edit NVM I guess it already started...

[BranislavS]

sorry for disconnecting/leave the server ,,,garda(police) comes to me :( so I must to stop playing (my girfriend don't wannt to play KY1r:shrug:)

[james12s]

well not to be horrible or anything but you not even saying caused a chain reaction which lead to me having to restart the race the have a nice big fall out with the admins and geting a minimum of disq ed form the race, so please next time tell people!!!!!!

[11SuLLy11]

Well done to all who raced,and thank's once again

[finlay]

First Id like to thank all the admin team for an Exellent Job (Difficult one at times).:thumb:

And Well done to the guys came in the top positions.

My Race, Starting in 15th Position and finishing in 8th:thumb: But having to pit on lap 87 in Green flag killed my 4th place that I had climed to

Race Incedents that Caused me to loose places and time Lap 4, LAP 18, Lap 19. No point moaning about it all....BUT ITS 130 LAPS.....PLENTY OF TIME. I think all three were under pace cars :-(

Applogies for the Hazzard lights issue....For tyhe life of me I could not remember how to switch them off...lol:shrug:


Anyway after about lap 40 it was a quiet race for me, Just taking a few extra places in the last few laps as people had to pit.

WELL DONE ALL:thumbsup:

[11SuLLy11]

:)Do you have the final result's including championship?.

[J@mes]

Good race n stuff, unlucky at the start but pulled up from around last place to 4th :)

Race Report:

Lap 3 racing incident between me and #14, no ones fault, but we started the first pacecar phase :(

Lap 9 lost control due to car damage, nearly hit a few people but thankfully didnt, didnt even leave the track :)

Lap 19 Big pileup under pacecar, no idea what was going on there, but i hit #22 (not that it was his fault)

Lap 21 picked up a lil bit of damage on under pacecar when got a tap from #8 from behind

Lap 41/42 Random pacecar phase which lasted all of 10 seconds, i lost a place when i slowed down :(

[Fischfix]

this is the inofficial race result so far. stay tuned for more in detail information.

[Becky Rose]

Challenging race, I enjoyed it. Started 11th, fought up with good restarts and good strategy, fought back down by being outright slow and tyres so cold from the safety car period that they went below blue (black btw - but not punctured :) ). Final position, 3rd and last car on lead lap. :)

[yankman]

Not bad for the first race, but not as good as it could have been.
Still to much confusion about the rules and wrong given commands as well.

For me ... had a good start and managed to stay in top positions w/o having a crash.
So far so good I decided to make my pitstop under full course yellow started in lap 50 (or maybe 51).
The pits open command was just given out when I passed the pitentry ... I had to go another round (lap 3 of fcy).
When I made my stop(lap 4 of fcy) there suddenly came the command last lap under caution. Great I thought, exactly when I do my stop they shorten the full course yellow.

The restart happend before I could reach the end of the grid, so I had to go alone w/o someone to draft.

A few laps later I had a slow car in front which just decided to go wide while I was passing outside. Damn hit the wall and got some damage.
Funny thing about I had a the same kind of crash in the first race of the last season.

At the end managed to get second, cause everyone besides rawex and becky made a pitstop (why didn't they do this when yellow flag is out ?)

I managed to pass becky by myself. Please Becky my dear draft my next time ... I will not crash you out. We might have caught Rawex.

For me alone there was no way to get close to rawex, who drove an outstanding race at the front.

After the race I read the rules and it says :
- A caution-phase will last for not less then 5 laps and will last as long as necessary.Now what ???

Tbh. I might not have won the race, but for sure I would have had better chances If fyc lasted at least 5 laps, like it is said in the rules.

Even worse I tried to talk to mastermind of lfscar Mr. Fischfix himself about this but ... he completly ignored me ... great!

For the next race ... the marshalls or whatever they want to call themselfes should be a bit less talkative. Even oval racing need same concentration and second Fischfix shouldn't do 2 things at the same time
... Racing and Administrating. Afaik he already has problems doing one of these :smileypul.

Last thing.
For my understanding the qualifying should line up the racers according to their speed. That kind of qualifying we had,did not do that.
In race I saw nobody bumpdrafting each other (besides my and only for a few laps, cause it didn't work out).
So I vote for disallowing bumpdrafting in qualifying, lets stick to normal drafting.

Yankman

[Fischfix]

yankman, i did not see that you wanted to talk to me sorry. i really did not see it. but you were right with that pacecar-situation it was too short. in the future i won't have anything todo with it, so the actual racing admin will give the RCM commands. if we will keep up the 20min. open qualifying there won't be bumpdrafting allowed, we had a small discussion about it. i think lots of drivers had a screwed up race... but overall you were 2nd. and what i can say for now, wait for the penalties there might be changes to the overall result anyway...

[Becky Rose]

I managed to pass becky by myself. Please Becky my dear draft my next time ... I will not crash you out. We might have caught Rawex.
On another day maybe, on this day I elected to run my own pace and stay out of trouble. I was over a second off the pace having only driven the car for the first time just prior to the race, it did not seem to respond well to ducking in and out of the slipstream so I elected to take the cautious and prudent route.

One point of interest though, I watched the replay this morning and there was one point when 3 of us where side by side. I braked and ducked out of the conflict before a turn, the other 2 crashed. There's a moral here somewhere ... :)

[J.B.]

The race worked a lot better in general than the test race although it was over for me quite soon. Single file restarts are just a lot easier to do for the drivers (although still too hard for some).

What was annoying is that the crash that saw me stuck with my rear wheels on the grass happened during a full course yellow and it wasn't even the only crash I saw under full course yellow. Whenever I see the caution message I lift off the throttle and wait till I'm at about 120 km/h. Everyone else seems to go on a lot faster and usually one or two cars even overtake me. Was I doing it right? It seems to me that there would be less crashes under caution if people would go slower.

All in all it was still fun whenever I had other cars close to me even if I was laps down. I made a couple of misjudgements and sometimes went too low into a corner with someone next to me, so I apoligize for that, but I guess that's part of learning the whole oval/drafting buisiness.

A few more questions. Wasn't the actual race start supposed to be double file? Where can I get the layout files to practice the next tracks? What's the speed limit under caution when you are told to close the large gaps?

[yankman]

@Fischfix:

I felt a bit guilty after the testrace cause I was complaining about serveral things in vent.

This time I tried to keep cool, so u won't become distracted again.

As much as I fight for the win, I am happy with the second place.
I had not have the time for practise and making a proper set as well as
making a better skin, cause of the 24h race.

And if u say u didn't see my messages, it is ok.
After all the fun out of it should be the reason to take part and I am trying
to keep it that way.

[Leifde]

I guess if I'd pitted at the same time as you Yankman we could have continued drafting each other and you might have won that race. Oh well, nothing can be done about it now :)

[yankman]

Yeah I was really wondering why nobody besides becky and me pitted.
It was almost midrace and a perfect moment.

I even told u that I gonna pit ....

[Leifde]

Yeah, I guess I was hoping for another pace car phase after the restart but it never came :shrug:

EDIT: Ah well, bring on the Special K!

[finlay]

I ran longer expecting 1 more pace car in the next 30 laps...(History would suggest it would happen at least one more time), Tires were in perfect condition, car wasnt that badly damaged....And I had Gallons of fuel left....... Was looking forward to running a slightly faster pace for another 30 laps or when ever the next Pace car was...........


I just had to pit at lap 87 for fuel... :shrug:

[Fischfix]

Everyone else seems to go on a lot faster and usually one or two cars even overtake me. Was I doing it right? It seems to me that there would be less crashes under caution if people would go slower.
?
You did absolutely right just because there is no need for a hurry. if people overtook you (and you can bet on that i will look at any pacecar-phase closely) they will get a penalty if they don't give the place back.



A few more questions. Wasn't the actual race start supposed to be double file? Where can I get the layout files to practice the next tracks? What's the speed limit under caution when you are told to close the large gaps?
actually i did not gave out any speed limit for the closing command but closing it in reasonable speed should be common racing sense. however there will be some penatlies for causing crashes during Cautions becaus of unreasonable high speed.

you are right with the double file, but we did some test races right before the qualifying and the outcome was, lots of drivers had problems to follow the easy rule to stay in their file. i don't think it is a loss when we will have only singlefile starts and restarts in the future. it worked pretty good in the last event of season 1 but we can talk about it again in the 2nd half of season 2 to try it again.

[Fischfix]

[quote=yankman;436122]@Fischfix:

I felt a bit guilty after the testrace cause I was complaining about serveral things in vent.
[quote]

to be honest yankman, at the testevent i did not expect that much criticism even from you and i was really pissed off, but it has a good outcome: everyone tries now to keep silence during racing.

in all evil is something good :)

[Fischfix]

I have uploaded the first race statistics (inofficial results). You will find it in the "RESULTS" section of www.lfscar.com

for those who cannot access the website properly, here (http://www.konzeptundgestaltung.com/lfscar/results/s2_race1/2007-5-30_23.53.57_results_race.html)is the direct link to it.

you can read out most of the things: fastest lap, highest climber, leading bonus.

however, i need to check if the #9 car did a complete lap in leading position and of course all the penalties are not in that statistics.

i am still in need of a replay of the qualifying, as it did not save on my machine properly.

[Becky Rose]

I have a replay of the last 16 minutes or so of qualifying. Unfortunately I had a disconnect just as we clicked ready :/.

[J@mes]

Cool stats, looks like i was the fastest guy on track from lap 82 onwards :)

Only 18 laps in the lead though, thought i had more :(

Any chance we could have the graph in a higher resolution or something? its pretty hard to see whats going on there :)

[byrney2004]

RACE INCIDENT REPORT

Lap 5: #11 hit me under caution phase. When replay checked he was still accelarating when he hit me, didnt brake untill damage had been done.

Leaders Lap 14/My Lap 5: Huge crash under caution - not sure on who did it

Thats it.

[yankman]

In third fcy 2 cars passed the safety car ... I guess both wanted to be the lucky "loser".

[J.B.]

Replay of quali: http://rapidshare.com/files/34235280/KY1R_qual_20M_17R_23Q.mpr.html

In third fcy 2 cars passed the safety car ... I guess both wanted to be the lucky "loser".

One of them was me. I was already 15 laps down, thought I might be the lucky dog, asked, someone said yes, I went. :) Fischfix called the real lucky dog while I was already on my way so I thought I might as well keep going, a penalty couldn't make my race much worse. Next time I won't move before fischfix or the pace car officially calls the number of course.

Incident reports:
lap 3: overtaken under caution.
lap 14: involved in (race ending) crash under caution.

[yankman]

Is there an explanation why u not use ur s2 account to do ur postings ?

[J.B.]

Wanted to keep the same name here that I use on the track and that I used at RSC.

[Fischfix]

Any chance we could have the graph in a higher resolution or something? its pretty hard to see whats going on there :)

i wish we could, but the graph and everything is done by lfstats tool, i might copy all laptimes into one excel file and see if i can render out a better lapgraph by myself. EDIT: I AM SO STUPID :), there is a xml file to configure this thing... just hang on

[J@mes]

Ah thats much better :)

[11SuLLy11]

When will championship result's be posted ?

[Fischfix]

after reviewing all racing incedents and race-reports. i think i can close race 1 reports on monday morning and give out the standings at monday evening. you can see the race-statistics (which also contain most of the bonus points on the website already. in total it looks like this, without any penalty at the moment:

so this is unofficial:
Points Driver
1st____195___#8 | Rawex
2nd____180___#38 [FPR]Yankman
3rd____170___#11 [HR] SuLLy
4th____170___#42 Strokes>UK<
5th____165___#2 Becky Rose
6th____156___#9 [FM]^Ketil
7th____155___#55 Adonis BotP
8th____144___#74 Moo.Danny
9th____143___#5 GWADanny
10th___142___#455 Fin[UK]
11th___130___#07 [FM]^KeNi
12th___127___#79 J.B. BotP
13th___124___#18 [FM]Fischfix
14th___123___#14 [HR] HogaMan
15th___121___#50 TKS||Branislav
16th___117___#66 G.Gab BotP
17th___115___#3 bo duke
18th___114___#22 [FM]Byrney
19th___106___#999 [PWRL]james12s
20th___103___#13 DFH| LONT
21nd___100___#007Jack.McIntyre



included bonus:
Fastest Laptim: +5pts. for #11
Pole Position: +5 pts. for #8
Leading Bonus: +5pts. for #8, #9(review), #11, #38, #42, #74
Highest Climber: +5pts. #9
Qualifying Top 50%: +5pts. #5, #8, #11, #14, #22, #38, #42, #55, #66, #74


as far as i can tell now, we will have a lot of penalties though :)


Team championship looks like this (NOT official)

Team Championships

1st___Halfords Racing (2 Cars)___146.5
2nd___BotP (3 Cars)______________131.33
3rd___Fragmaster (4 Cars)________131

[Leifde]

Why don't I get a leading bonus? (#74)

[Rawex]

well first Great race Fischfix, i liked it alot, true that there were some things about rules and miss commanding.. which caused few places for me and hogaman, but :P things happends.

Yankman thanks for the nice words :) hehe

Now as you probably know me and Hogaman Team'd up as partners and made a pretty good team if i must say ;) loved having you as a partner hoga, we must do that again sometime!

Well nothing in this race went like me and hogaman planned.. pitstop, racing and the start.. and our little change in plans was luck all luck.. the qualify, went as planed, but when we started the main things went down :S we wanted to draft in start... but it was easyere to bumb we found out so we bumbed, but hogaman slipped.. so i went back for him.. and later on he slipped again.. :/ around lap 15 he crashed and it was way to long to go back for him.. and we planed to use 100% fuel and then 25%.. but then i came up with this "Great" idea .. if i must say :P that if we could drive around in the pacecar season for 5 laps more.. to lap 20! we could meet in pit together.. and go out with a 100% fuel and didn't need to pit anymore! so we did..! we ended up last doing the race.. and was bumbing.. we passed alot of people, maybe a little unfair.. "going inside with bumb and pass down smoothly" but there wasn't any rules against it.. and if we had to draft 3 people it would slow us down and maybe risk a crash. So we drived as fast as we could to get up on top again.. and managed to get around pole 5-6.. i think and hoga made a crash sad enough :'( we were thinking about going back.. but 20 sec was too much.. so i kept driving, then i thought back.. OW YEAH WE PITTED!! and hopefully the others havent!!! and none of you luckly hadn't pit ^^ we all had the same plan to go 100+ laps and pit and goal.. but me and hoga's little change and plans because of a crash, did take us up to a first place ^^ little sad for hoga :'( he managed to get allmost 3 place.. but his tyre blew :( and had to pit.. and he clicked end race by misstake nOoo.

thats me and hoga's race! maybe luck, maybe good driving or simply good tactic? who knows :shrug: well great race!!! for my sake.. not a single min was boring.

P.S. this is all out of my memory.. a thing or 2 might be a little slippy.. "around the laps"

[Fischfix]

Why don't I get a leading bonus? (#74)

because of a copy-paste error. thats why it is NOT official :)

[11SuLLy11]

RACE INCIDENT REPORT

Lap 5: #11 hit me under caution phase. When replay checked he was still accelarating when he hit me, didnt brake untill damage had been done.

Leaders Lap 14/My Lap 5: Huge crash under caution - not sure on who did it

Thats it.
me? not like I ruined your race,please don't make a big fuss out of something small,sorry fot the touch

[byrney2004]

I am not making a big fuss. The idea is that I report anything that happened against me. The only thing I am not sure of is how much detail is required, so I just wrote a quick comment of description. It caused an accident, so needs reporting.
If you have a problem with that then sorry to offend you, but my complaint is fair. Just because my race was ruined before it began does not make it ok to hit me (which from your comment seems to be your feelings).

[Fischfix]

just to make sure everyone understands it right: please post all incidents that happened to you or your car

[11SuLLy11]

I am not making a big fuss. The idea is that I report anything that happened against me. The only thing I am not sure of is how much detail is required, so I just wrote a quick comment of description. It caused an accident, so needs reporting.
If you have a problem with that then sorry to offend you, but my complaint is fair. Just because my race was ruined before it began does not make it ok to hit me (which from your comment seems to be your feelings).
I didn't do it intentially mate,really:(

[Fischfix]

Ok here is the race report for the first 53 laps (including all cautions), not reviewed so far Lap 57-130 and all pit-entrance and pit-exits for crossing the yellow line.

Race Report:
Lap 1 (Caution) Penalty
#50 | Put on wrong starting position (is 15th, should be 13th), not sure why this happend, gets a 1pts bonus | #50
#9 | Put on wrong starting position (is 19th, should be 12th), too late on griding |
#22 | False start, gets stop and go penalty by LFS |
#50 | Brakes, locks up tires, causes a domino effect of braking cars | -5 #50
#13 Hit #79 | Because of domino-effect caused by #50 and keeping not enough space | -5 #13
#999 Hit #13 | Because of domino-effect caused by #50 and keeping not enough space | -5 #999
#3 Overtook #9 | Not giving place back before end of caution but #9 gained from being last position and full throttle |
|
Lap 2 |
#66 Hit #07 | #66 tapped the rear end of #07, causing the caution | -5 #66
Lap 3 |
#14 Hit #42 | #14 did not hold line when Caution came out (-5 because #42 did not give much room either) | -5 #14
#5 Hit #2 | Spinning #42 hit #5 which hit #2 |
#455 Hit #14 | #455 went right into the standing #14 in the middle of track |
#8 Overtook #74 | #8 did not give place back before end of caution | -10 #8
#9 Overtook #79 | #9 did not give place back before end of caution | -10 #9
|
Lap 5 (under Caution) |
#22 Hit #74 | #74 slowed down to pacecar-speed, #22 hit #74 because of not enough space | -5 #22
#11 Hit #22 | #11 hit #22 because of not enough space | -5 #11
#5 Hit #11 | #5 hit #11 because of not enough space | -5 #5
#2 Hit #11 | Because of #11 crashs and spins |
|
Lap 6 (under Caution) |
#22 Crossed Yellow line | Because of wrecked car |
#13 Disconnects |
|
Lap 7 (under Caution) |
#455 Is Lucky dog |
#13 Disconnects |
|
Lap 11 |
#74 Hit #8 | #8 lost traction and starts to slide, #74 was right behind and could not avoid #8. #8 spins | -5 #8
#18 Hit #5 | #18 lost controll slammed into side of #5, #18 spins, #5 continutes | -5 #18
Both caused the caution |
|
L14 (under caution) |
#42 Is Lucky dog |
#50 | Parks on track in T2 high, Sent to spectatet after not responding several times in lap 16 | -5 #50
#999 | Brakes to 60km/h in T2 and causes a domino effect which leads to big Pile-up including | -5 #999
#3, #07, #18, #22, #42, #79, #455, #999 |
#79 | Gets stuck on the apex because of pile-up, needs to telepit |
#14 Hit #42 | #14 did not hold line and hit #42, both continued, could have been worse though | -5 #14
|
L18 (caution) |
#66 Hit #14 | #66 slammed into #14 | -10 #66
|
L19 (under caution) |
#8 Hit #5 | because of keeping not enough space under caution, #8 spins out causing the pile-up including | -5 #8
#999, #07, #455, #22, #18, #79, #42, #66 |
#22 Overtook #3 | #3 car was not part of the pile-up, therefore no reason for overtaking him way after the incedent | -10 #22
|
|
L20 (under caution) |
#18 Is Lucky dog | Crash out in lucky dog lap and flips car. Tele-pits |
#79 Thinks he is Lucky dog | Because of #42 told him he is lucky dog. (as there was confusion about it, its only a -5 instead of -10) | -5 #79
| #79 Keeps on going after Admin tells who the real „lucky dog“ is |
|
L40 ??? Random caution |
|
L50 |
#14 Bumps #8 | #14 spins out during bump-drafting, causing a Caution | -5 #14
|
|
L53 |
#14 Gets Lucky dog | |
#38 Is Victim | of too short Caution, expected one more lap and pitted, gets a 1 point bonus | #38
#8 Hit #9 | During caution, #9 spins and takes back his position | -5 #8
#14 Bumps #8 | #14 spins out during bump-drafting |
|
|

Other #999 Braking radio-silence and giving a damn shit about it | -10 #999


Summary so far (until Lap 53):
#8: -25 Pts (maybe DISQ)
#9: -10 Pts.
#11: -5 Pts.
#13: -5 Pts.
#14: -20 Pts.
#18: -5 Pts.
#22: -15 Pts.
#50: -10 Pts.
#66: -15 Pts.
#79: -5 Pts.
#999: -20 Pts.

End of report and official race-results will be published during this evening. if there is any question about the penalties feel free to ask me.

[james12s]

can i just say my braking was do to a car slowing infront under caution and not saying he is stopping so i had to slow down to not overtake, which is part of the rules, so i dont think the points are that valid but you were lenient(sp) with the radio penalty so ill take it just wanted to point out

[james12s]

so i think -5 for #50 should really be 10 or at leats 8 as he caused a situation which including other things including my mistake/missjudgement meant several cars including me to either lose places or have to be telepitted.
and could you add the telepit to the incident list.

thansk

[Becky Rose]

I wish we had had this level of stewarding last season! It's just what a bunch of newbs like us needs :D

Dont worry its jets easier, once we see we cant away with stuff we'll stop trying to get away with it :).

[Fischfix]

i will review that moment one more time as i am not quite convinced. however, you were right, the behaviour of the #50 car caused some irritation in that situation.

anyway just for the information, you can pass any car, that is crashed out or looks like it. (most likely going slower then 50km/h) during caution, as the caution speed shouldn't be below 100km/h anyway.

[J.B.]

Thanks for the detailed report. It must be quite a lot of work but I think ot will really benefit the series by helping us get over the noob stage more quickly. :thumbsup:

[J@mes]

L14 (under caution) |

#14 Hit #42 | #14 did not hold line and hit #42, both continued, could have been worse though | -5 #14


I (#42) didnt get hit by any car in lap 14

[james12s]

i will review that moment one more time as i am not quite convinced. however, you were right, the behaviour of the #50 car caused some irritation in that situation.

anyway just for the information, you can pass any car, that is crashed out or looks like it. (most likely going slower then 50km/h) during caution, as the caution speed shouldn't be below 100km/h anyway.
oh ok fine ill remember that maybe add to the rules that if a car is going very slow it is ok to pass as long as you give the place back if they are not iin trouble

[james12s]

also i passed the yellow line while i was being a prick on the radio and exiting the pits (lol)

[byrney2004]

You wrote #22 Overtook #3 | #3 car was not part of the pile-up, therefore no reason for overtaking him way after the incedent | -10 #22

Sorry, I thought that if there was a crash under caution I was meant to go back in the line where I started if there was enough time and space to do so. My fault, must have misunderstood the correct thing to do.

[finlay]

#455....-ZERO Points :thumb:

Got to say 'WELL DONE TO FISCHFIX' Thats some impressive work you did there

Very Interesting reading, and it does show you have to play nice:-)



I think Race two will be even better, Im looking forward to it.

Will see if I can gain a few spots as quite a few of us are very close in the points table now..

[james12s]

i think everyone learnt alot in race 1 me definatly, but yes well done to fischfix as especcially with oval as there are cars at every point of the track

[Fischfix]

the report is not finished, there are some more changes even to the first 57 laps after sharing the information with the other admins, we stewarded some of the actions different. plz wait for the official thing...

[james12s]

ok no prob, the more opinions and views on a situation the more correct the outcome will be :)

[11SuLLy11]

I can't find championship results ?

[Fischfix]

i've deleted it, as we are now discussing some inscedents with external intelligence who were not racing.

[faster111]

so i only got 2 warnings ok that mean am still in?

[Leifde]

So that's -9 for me. Not too bad. I don't remember cutting the yellow line but I'll go with it. The penalty for my crash with Rawex was justified though. It was totally my fault, I didn't seem to realise I would understeer with the lack of downforce and I'm sorry for causing it. :)

[BranislavS]

Race Report:
Lap 1 (Caution) Penalty
#50 | Put on wrong starting position (is 15th, should be 13th), not sure #50 | Brakes, locks up tires, causes a domino effect of braking cars | -5 #50
#13 Hit #79 | Because of domino-effect caused by #50 and keeping not enough space | -5 #13
#999 Hit #13 | Because of domino-effect caused by #50 and keeping not enough space | -5 #999
#50 | Parks on track in T2 high, Sent to spectatet after not responding Summary so far (until Lap 53):
#50: -10 Pts.


fish ,when I understud -5 - 5 + 1 is -10? :D
and can you explain me the first lap ?"Brakes, locks up tires, causes a domino effect of braking cars" I leave space to front car ,when I saw in the mirror fast zooming cars a hit brakes and move to the right .So it's realy my fault? if you say yes I accept it.

[james12s]

i cant remember the happenings there but the one defined at the end is un arguable, next time please pit or spec it only takes 2-3 seconds

[Fischfix]

fish ,when I understud -5 - 5 + 1 is -10? :D
and can you explain me the first lap ?"Brakes, locks up tires, causes a domino effect of braking cars" I leave space to front car ,when I saw in the mirror fast zooming cars a hit brakes and move to the right .So it's realy my fault? if you say yes I accept it.

yep brainslav, sorry to say, but yes it is your fault, because this kind of braking is causing too much trouble. in fact nobody should be braking at all, as it is not necessary if everyone just keeps a decent distance (it does not need much though) and just lifts the throttle a bit. it is not bad if you are on the side of another car, but it is a problem if one car starts to brake. it causes a domino effect which will lead into a pile-up here. i gave penalties to the other cars, just because they were driving under the wing of each other. which was stupid as well.

i wish we could have a speed limiter at 120km/h then this kind of problem would be solved more or less but as we don't have it we just need to keep the speed by ourself.

to brake-check can also be a way to get rid of other drivers, and with this penalty i show everyone, that it is NOT a sollution. (even if you did not do it intentionally in that specific lap)

i think the best way to know what to do and what not to do is just watching becky rose' caution phases. she was by far the safest on track there.

[J.B.]

i wish we could have a speed limiter at 120km/h then this kind of problem would be solved more or less but as we don't have it we just need to keep the speed by ourself.


Hmm, I wonder if we could fake a speed limiter by setting up a specific gear ratio and running against the rev limiter? Would need some testing in terms of engine damage.

[Fischfix]

i think this will kill your turbo sooner or later...

[byrney2004]

My chances of doing well in this league have gone from bad to worse:(

Sadly I have to work Monday now so cannot compete in another event I was hoping to do well in, oh well - money comes first. Hope you all have a good event anyway. Hopefully see y'all in two weeks. Just in time for the more awkward tracks, LUCKY ME!!!

[yankman]

Will the final results for first race given out before second race ?

[Fischfix]

Lap 1 (Caution) Penalty
#50 | Put on wrong starting position (is 15th, should be 13th), not sure why this happend, gets a 1pts bonus | #50
#9 | Put on wrong starting position (is 19th, should be 12th), too late on griding |
#22 | False start, gets stop and go penalty by LFS |
#50 | Brakes, locks up tires, causes a domino effect of braking cars | -5 #50
#13 Hit #79 | Because of domino-effect caused by #50 and keeping not enough space | -5 #13
#999 Hit #13 | Because of domino-effect caused by #50 and keeping not enough space | -5 #999
#3 Overtook #9 | Not giving place back before end of caution but #9 gained from being last position and full throttle |
|
Lap 2 |
#66 Hit #07 | #66 tapped the rear end of #07, causing the caution | -5 #66
Lap 3 |
#14 Hit #42 | #14 and #42 crashed, #42 did not give much room, #14 was too keen on overtaking there | -5 #14
#5 Hit #2 | Spinning #42 hit #5 which hit #2 |
#455 Hit #14 | #455 went right into the standing #14 in the middle of track |
#8 Overtook #74 | #8 did not give place back before end of caution | -10 #8
#9 Overtook #79 | #9 did not give place back before end of caution | -10 #9
|
Lap 5 (under Caution) |
#22 Hit #74 | #74 slowed down to pacecar-speed, #22 hit #74 because of not enough space | -5 #22
#11 Hit #22 | #11 hit #22 because of not enough space | -5 #11
#5 Hit #11 | #5 hit #11 because of not enough space | -5 #5
#2 Hit #11 | Because of #11 crashs and spins |
|
Lap 6 (under Caution) |
#22 Crossed Yellow line | Because of wrecked car |
#13 Disconnects |
|
Lap 7 (under Caution) |
#455 Is Lucky dog |
#13 Disconnects |
|
Lap 11 |
#74 Hit #8 | #74 ran into #8 car because not lifting the throttle | -5 #74
#18 Hit #5 | #18 lost controll slammed into side of #5, #18 spins, #5 continutes | -5 #18
Both caused the caution |
|
L14 (under caution) |
#42 Is Lucky dog |
#50 | Parks on track in T2 high, Sent to spectatet after not responding several times in lap 16 | -5 #50
Causing a pile-up: victims in the pile-up were |
#3, #07, #18, #22, #42, #79, #455, #999 |
#79 | Gets stuck on the apex because of pile-up, needs to telepit |
L18 |
#14 Hit #42 | #14 did not hold line and hit #42, both continued, could have been worse though | -5 #14
|
#66 Hit #14 | #66 slammed into #14 causing a Caution | -10 #66
|
L19 (under caution) |
#8 Hit #5 | because of keeping not enough space under caution, #8 spins out causing the pile-up including | -5 #8
#999, #07, #455, #22, #18, #79, #42, #66 |
|
|
|
L20 (under caution) |
#18 Is Lucky dog | Crash out in lucky dog lap and flips car. Tele-pits |
#79 Thinks he is Lucky dog | Because of #42 told him he is lucky dog. (as there was confusion about it, its only a -5 instead of -10) | -5 #79
| #79 Keeps on going after Admin tells who the real „lucky dog“ is |
|
L40 Random caution |
|
L50 |
#14 Bumps #8 | #14 spins out during bump-drafting, causing a Caution | -5 #14
|
|
L53 |
#14 Gets Lucky dog | |
#38 Is Victim | of too short Caution, expected one more lap and pitted, gets a 1 point bonus | #38
#8 Hit #9 | During caution, #9 spins and takes back his position | -5 #8
|
L56 |
#07 Hit #79 | #07 crashed into #79 because not holding line, #79 continues, #07 spins out | -5 #07
|
L57 |
#14 Bumps #8 | #14 spins out during bump-drafting |
|
L63 |
#42 Hit #74 | #74 could go on, #42 hits wall, racing accident |
|
|
Pitting Penalties |
L8 #07 | Cross yellow line pit entrance on straight | -2 #07
L12 #18 | Cross yellow line at exit on the straight | -2 #18
L20 #8 | Cross yellow line pit entrance on straight | -2 #8
L66 #74 | Cross yellow line pit entrance on straight and exit | -4 #74
L50 #9 | Cross yellow line on exit in the turn | -2 #9
L54 #38 | Cross yellow line at exit on the straight | -2 #38
L101 #11 | Cross yellow line pit entrance and exit in turn | -4 #11
| |
Other #999 | Braking radio-silence and giving a damn shit about it | -10 #999
#3 | Warning for being pretty slow late in the race (only 220km/h) a few times almost causing a crash | Warning #3


Summary:

-22_____#8
-15_____#14
-15_____#999
-15_____#66
-12_____#9
-9______#50
-9______#11
-9______#74
-7______#07
-7______#18
-5______#13
-5______#22
-5______#5
-5______#79
-1______#38
Warning_#3

FINAL POINTS AND STANDINGS:
=============================================
1st_________179_________#38[FPR]Yankman
2nd_________173_________#8|Rawex -6
3rd_________170_________#42 Strokes>UK< -9
4th_________165_________#2_Becky Rose -14
5th_________161_________#11[HR] SuLLy -18
6th_________155_________#55 Adonis BotP -24
7th_________142_________#455 Fin[UK] -37
8th_________139_________#9[FM]^Ketil -40
9th_________138_________#5 GWADanny -41
10th________135_________#74 - Moo.Danny -44
11th________123_________#07[FM]^KeNi -56
12th________122_________#79 J.B. BotP -57
13th________117_________#18_[FM]Fischfix -62
14th________115_________#3 bo duke -64
15th________112_________#50 TKS||Branislav -67
16th________109_________#22 [FM]Byrney -70
17th________108_________#14[HR] HogaMan -71
18th________102_________#66 G.Gab BotP -77
19th________100_________#007Jack.McIntyre -79
20th________98__________#13 DFH| LONT -81
21st________91__________#999_[PWRL]james12s -88


Team Championships
=============================================
1st_____147,33_____Halfords Racing (#8, #11, #14)
2nd____ 126,33_____BotP (#55, #66, #79)
3rd_____122________Fragmaster.net (#07, #9, #18, #22)


Rookie Championships
=============================================
1st_____170_____#42 Strokes>UK<
2nd_____161_____#11[HR] SuLLy
3rd_____155_____#55 Adonis BotP
4th_____138_____#5 GWADanny
5th_____123_____#07[FM]^KeNi
6th_____122_____#79 J.B. BotP
7th_____109_____#22 [FM]Byrney
8th_____108_____#14[HR] HogaMan
9th_____102_____#66 G.Gab BotP
10th_____98______#13 DFH| LONT
12th____91______#999_[PWRL]james12s

[11SuLLy11]

yay,I am leading Rookied champs:)

[J@mes]

That should be me, i only completed a qualifying last season :P

Hooray for having no penalties!

[Fischfix]

race control considered taking part only in a qualifying not as being part of a race, so j@mes you are in the rookies.