New Nvidia Driver 81.85

[Fordman]

Awesome, simply, Awesome.

http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_rel70betadriver.html

Cleared all my problems in HL2 / CSS. Can now play full screen, AAx2 and AFx2

Fordie

[Stellios]

What problem you been getting on CSS mate? Ive got the 81.84s and there good, but AA and AF absolutely kills my FPS in CSS.

[Fordman]

Here take a look.

In Piccy 1, is how it is meant to look.

Turn ever so slightly and I got Piccy 2. 81.85 fixed this for me.

Stellios, don;t you have a shit hot PC also. I have a Semp 3000, 1gb DDR 400 and a FX5500 256mb AGP Card, and I can not run AF and AA. @2x only, but going to try and push the boat out now :o)

Fordie

[keiran]

Won't bother making a new topic to ask a little question about drivers :)

Would you recommend using the Nvidia drivers over the omega ones ?

Keiran

[jmkz]

nVidia omega drivers are based on too old nVidia drivers atm

[Fordman]

Won't bother making a new topic to ask a little question about drivers :)

Would you recommend using the Nvidia drivers over the omega ones ?

Keiran

Yes, believe me, I have tried them all

I can now use in LFS 4x AF and 4x As with little FPS loss. Oh my, LFS looks sexy :)

[sinbad]

Is it true that there is little or no point in updating to the very latest drivers unless your card is one of the newer models? I heard that the new features in new driver versions only have an effect on the latest cards. Is it really going to make any difference to the performance of an older card like mine? I only ask because GF FX5500s are getting long in the tooth too now, even if they are spring chickens compared to my 4200ti :)

[ORION]

For a GeForce 3, some 21.8x driver is still the best performing, but of course there could be compatibility problems :)

Im waiting for the XG 81.85 btw ;)

[Fordman]

Is it true that there is little or no point in updating to the very latest drivers unless your card is one of the newer models? I heard that the new features in new driver versions only have an effect on the latest cards. Is it really going to make any difference to the performance of an older card like mine? I only ask because GF FX5500s are getting long in the tooth too now, even if they are spring chickens compared to my 4200ti :)

Well I saw in NVForums that 66.93 and 77.77 was best drivers for my GFX card, and to a certain extent they were, but I could only run HL2 and CSS in Directx 8.1 with no AA and AF.

Now with the 81.85 drivers, I can run HL2 in Dx9 and with 2x AA/AF. The whole game runs alot smoother, and also LFS. But on Guru, some people said that they are crap quality, but I had the same effects in the 81.84, where other raved about them.

Its a classic case of NV drivers that some work for some and others work for others. If you do try this, then use DriverCleaner before you install new ones.

@Orion - What are these XG81.85 you talk about

[ORION]

There are some people around who tweak the drivers, mostly by modding the *.inf files. I guess you know Omega, but the really good ones are XG (Xtreme-G - www.tweaksrus.com).
You can also watch out for DNA, NGO, DHzer0point, Apocalypse etc :)

[Fordman]

Arr OK Orion. I had the DHzer0point 81.84, and I had to turn off Haze in LFS otherwise everything was white.

Will keep an eye for those who you speak of :)

[ORION]

LOL :yikes:
never had such a problem (well, the last time was with my voodoo banshee where all texture were green in NFS3 :P)

[jmkz]

none of these custom drivers are really "recommended" installs, because they are only tested by a very select amount of people they are mostly the cause for graphical errors. nVidia & ATI invest quite a bit of time beta testing their drivers and each setting. Although these custom tweaked drivers will work wonders for some, I've also seen them crash whole systems :)

[Fordman]

Orion, those XG 81.85 v2 are out. :yikes: They are yummy. :thumb: for that m8

Fordie

[seggons]

Orion, those XG 81.85 v2 are out. :yikes: They are yummy. :thumb: for that m8

Fordie
Hi Fordie, Any chance you can explain 'yummy'. What do they improve over the Nvidia Drivers? Is there any danger of these diffrent drivers doing damage to my graphics card?

[ORION]

They are not overclocking or increasing the voltage, just some settings are different, resulting in very good performance and quality :)
But of course they are not official, so use them at your own risk.

[seggons]

You are a star ORION. I made the jump and wow. LFS has just been made a whole lot better. Thanks alot ORION :)

[Fordman]

Welcome to the Modified world Seggons. Hmm, so when I say Yummy again Seggons, you will know what I am talking about :D

[seggons]

Hmm, so when I say Yummy again Seggons, you will know what I am talking about :D
So if I put a slice of cake in front of you, and you say yummy, I then know that the graphics are good on that piece of cake? :D

[xaotik]

So if I put a slice of cake in front of you, and you say yummy, I then know that the graphics are good on that piece of cake? :D

You'll also know that the cake will disappear with more Fragments Per Second.

[L(Oo)ney]

Orion, those XG 81.85 v2 are out. :yikes: They are yummy. :thumb: for that m8

Fordie

Guess they didnt test these on an ancient GF 5600. :really:

When i turn anti aliasing on, LFS goes nuts, colours and lines everywhere, like the cards over heating (its not), as soon as i get to the 4x setting, everything works fine.

Heres a pic, was taken with a phone cam so its a bit crap, print screen didnt show the problem.

[Fordman]

Hi All,

Doing my usual search, and came across this. There is now Version 81.87 out. People are RAVING about these, in a bigger way than the 81.85 and 81.84 driver sets.

Here is the Forum : http://www.tweaksrus.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2556

Here is the Drivers : http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_rel70betadriver.html

And Yes they are Beta, and NO Orion, XG's are not out yet :D

@L(Oo)ney Your totally right m8. I automatically put mine to x4 so obviously missed this problem. Done as you said, and hay presto, lots of 60's colours and patterns, WOW Man :)

But as I like Driver Cleaner :pillepall so for the purpose's of testing, I will download and install these tonight. I will run the AAx2 and AAx4 and AA Off, and let you all know, so not to bugger up your system, as I am kind like that :D

[XRRoy]

i've tried one of the 81.xx series but they didn't work with the 6800LE :(

[Fordman]

i've tried one of the 81.xx series but they didn't work with the 6800LE :(

There was issue's with the earlier version's of the 81.x drivers with various cards, but these 81.87 are "mean't" to be the dog's nuts. As somebody said on that forum " What ever Nvidia have done, finally they have got it right" and various other comments. As I said, I will give these a bash tonight, and report back.

By then again, don't take my word for it, give them a go yourself, just make sure you uninstall, reboot, use driver cleaner, reboot, then install. :nod:

[seggons]

Just read the whole thread and there is not much diffrence from the 81.85 XG drivers and the 81.87 untweaked, so I am gonna wait for the 81.87 XG drivers.

[Fordman]

Well I said I report back, and here I am. Well, what ever Nvidia have done, they have certainly done something right. I am getting approx 5fps increase across the board. IQ is, in my old eyes much better. I can now run LFS, HL2 and CSS in 1024x768 but with x4 AA and x4 AF ( Remember I only have a FX5500 )

no AF and x2 AF also work flawlesly LoOney :)

HL2 is much more stable, and so is CCS. I can run LFS full maxed out and at 1280x1024 and still got 30fps with no stutters, full grid :)

Well I am a happy chappy.

Fordie

[L(Oo)ney]

no AF and x2 AF also work flawlesly LoOney :)

81.87?

I've got these installed right now, and im still having the AA problems. :(

Did notice a small increase in FPS, but that increase is useless as i have to use 4x AA, i normally use 2xQ.

[ORION]

http://www.tweaksrus.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=127&Itemid=41
here we go gilz :D

[Fordman]

http://www.tweaksrus.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=127&Itemid=41
here we go gilz :D

And, any good?

[ORION]

Not tried them yet, currently on my notebook.
I'll tell you tomorrow :)

[Fordman]

Not tried them yet, currently on my notebook.
I'll tell you tomorrow :)

No Need m8, could not wait any longer. Yummy, very very Yummy :D

[seggons]

Just updated to the 81.87 XG Drivers and tbh I see no real diffrence. The reason that could be is that all my gfx settings are on max with 8xAA and 16xAF. There is one thing diffrent for me and that is a frame rate drop, but that could be because of the better, but no seeable textures.

Attached is 2 pics, one with the 81.85 drivers, the other with the 81.87 drivers. See if you can tell the diffrence :)

[NotAnIllusion]

Just updated to the 81.87 XG Drivers and tbh I see no real diffrence. The reason that could be is that all my gfx settings are on max with 8xAA and 16xAF. There is one thing diffrent for me and that is a frame rate drop, but that could be because of the better, but no seeable textures.


I noticed a frame rate drop moving the the WHQLs preceeding the 81.85 and another drop from 81.85 to 81.87, with the same (everything minimum/off) settings. Didn't see any improvement in quality, so not a good set of drivers for me & my FX 5200.

Attached is 2 pics, one with the 81.85 drivers, the other with the 81.87 drivers. See if you can tell the diffrence

Can't tell, I could swear the 81.85 is slightly fuzzier but it could just be the angle. :)

[Rob76]

81.85 and 81.87 lock up my PC (2 7800GTX in SLi mode running under Win XP x64 )

Having to stick with 77.77, although I have no issues with them except a few glitches in BF2. LFS with AA SLi16x looks pretty sweet.

LFS is so reliant on the CPU, it doesn't really stress my Graphics card(s) anyway, but it's a little worrying the latest drivers so thoroughly lock up my PC :(

[Fordman]

81.85 and 81.87 lock up my PC (2 7800GTX in SLi mode running under Win XP x64 )

Having to stick with 77.77, although I have no issues with them except a few glitches in BF2. LFS with AA SLi16x looks pretty sweet.

LFS is so reliant on the CPU, it doesn't really stress my Graphics card(s) anyway, but it's a little worrying the latest drivers so thoroughly lock up my PC :(

DO you have Dual Monitors or a P4 with HT enabled, as there seems to be a problem with HT enabled and dual monitors. People have found that it you disabled the HT on your P4 it works.

[Rob76]

DO you have Dual Monitors or a P4 with HT enabled, as there seems to be a problem with HT enabled and dual monitors. People have found that it you disabled the HT on your P4 it works.

No I have AMD and only one monitor. It seemed to be linked to SLi mode as the PC was only locking up in games running SLi and LFS didn't lockup if I set the NVidia drivers to single GPU (i.e. SLi off).

Anyone know if the 8x drivers push the hardware harder than version 7x - could be a Power supply issue if they do?

[Rob76]

The latest 81.94 drivers seem to have cured the lockup issues (fingers crossed).

[X-Ter]

so not a good set of drivers for me & my FX 5200.

Actually, I haven't seen any major (if any) improvement for the FX5200 since 66.++. I might be wrong, but I don't think any of the newer drivers will do much difference on such an old card. Please correct me if I'm wrong here, cause I'd love to get some more power out of my old FX5200 :)

[NotAnIllusion]

Hehe, you're right. I keep hoping - to no avail obviously - that one day it will make a slight difference, so I keep getting the newest drivers.. New ones are out, 81.94. Good drivers! :p

[JFRivard]

I had problem with slow FPS / Crashing when I re-started playing this game about 2 mos ago and I did the following:

1) New Nvidia Driver 81.84
2) New Sound Driver Latest Soundblaster
3) Re-Flash the Mother Board
4) Defrag
5) Adjust Nvidia Settings
6) Remove un-needed background processes
7) New Direct X (9C I beleive)
8) Disable Norton / Microsoft Spy Remove

It was a little better and still crashed on occasion. I removed a the Audio HQ toolbar and that did the trick for the crashes. As for the FPS I was still @ 8-12 FPS @ the beggining of an online race and never better than about 28 FPS when racing online..

I was thinking about buying a new video card when I saw this post. I went to NVidia and got the 81.87 driver and went from always getting passed on the first corner with my choppy hard to control 8-9 FPS to a "So long sucker" smooth & controllable 22-25 FPS. For the rest of the race when the traffic clears up a bit it now runs between 52 and 60 FPS!.

In conjunction with the the 4XS Antialiasing setting on the card I've got eye candy I never knew I had:smileypul . It's like a different game! Within 30 minutes of playing online I was a good .5 sec faster around Blackwood (FOX) than I ever was before:thumb:

My PC has : Pentium IV 2.20 GHZ 512MB Ram, NVidia GEForce Ti 4600 128 MB, slow 60Hz LCD Flatscreen, Sound Blaster Audigy 1st Generation

[contourSVT]

these drivers simply rock

i use to play hl2 then i updated to the newer drivers (old ones before this one)

then didnt play hl2 for a while, then when i tried it ran like crap and studdered so bad I couldnt play at all.

i downloaded these the other day and WOW what a boost in performance in all games.


BTW, this is with a fx5200

hl2 on high and 2x aa and 2xaf i never see less then 25fps, doom 3 is locked at 22fps and cs:s is locked at 52

these drivers deffinetly give more power out of the fx5200