BOTT series discussion

[Arrow.]

I thought i would put forward my ideas for next season of BOTT
and see what you think.

Season starts: July/August

Time: 20:00 or 21:00 UTC

It all depends on the number of team that join but..
Premiere Division (All the teams from last season will be invite back and all the team who were invited last time and unable to make it) - 16 teams
Division 1
Divison 2
If we were to have divisions then possibly 6 rounds
Round 1: Fern bay Club - UF1
Round 2: South City long - XFR
Round 3: Aston Cadet - TBO
Round 4: Aston ??? - GTR
Round 5: Fern Bay Gold or ??? - FOX
Round 6: Kyoto Ring National - FO8

Ruling/penalties
There will be a Tribunal which consists of 2-3 members of LFS with a good understanding of racing.
If a complaint is made it will be reviewed by the tribunal judges and they will come to a conclusion on the penalty

Comments, criticism, suggestions welcome
:)

[Jonesy_]

I personally would like to see some variety on the choosen combos.
Some xfi+xrg action would be nice also, on a track where they are competetive.
For the starting time I must suggest 20.00 UTC, as 21 would already be midnight for Finns in the summer time.

I´m sure Mercury will show intrest in the upcoming season. :thumb:

[jamesrowe]

I thought i would put forward my ideas for next season of BOTT
and see what you think.

Season starts: July/August

Time: 20:00 or 21:00 UTC

It all depends on the number of team that join but..
Premiere Division (All the teams from last season will be invite back and all the team who were invited last time and unable to make it) - 16 teams
Division 1
Divison 2
If we were to have divisions then possibly 6 rounds
Round 1: Fern bay Club - UF1
Round 2: South City long - XFR
Round 3: Aston Cadet - TBO
Round 4: Aston ??? - GTR
Round 5: Fern Bay Gold or ??? - FOX
Round 6: Kyoto Ring National - FO8

Ruling/penalties
There will be a Tribunal which consists of 2-3 members of LFS with a good understanding of racing.
If a complaint is made it will be reviewed by the tribunal judges and they will come to a conclusion on the penalty

Comments, criticism, suggestions welcome
:)

Aston National with GTRs :shy: 50laps would not be a boring thing, I think there would be action all 50 laps there!

The LRF at BL1 Rev if I remember was great fun!!

[LFSn00b]

Don't put almost all the same combos from season 1 to season 2 ;)

[Arrow.]

I personally would like to see some variety on the choosen combos.
Some xfi+xrg action would be nice also, on a track where they are competetive.
For the starting time I must suggest 20.00 UTC, as 21 would already be midnight for Finns in the summer time.

I´m sure Mercury will show intrest in the upcoming season. :thumb:

What about Bl1 - XFG/XRG
times are very close there

20:00UTC should be ok i guess

[traxxion]

July/August is - in my opinion - a very bad time to plan league races in :)

[Arrow.]

Whys that Rene?

[traxxion]

Whys that Rene?
Oh sorry for not explaining, for me it was obvious :shy:

Reason is, that July / August is summer holidays time. :)

[Arrow.]

ok When do the holidays finish?
does everyone feel the same, start after the holidays?

[racer hero]

I say start before the holdidays and run through. More time to practice for people that go to school.

Also maybe fe rallyx with RB4?

[Arrow.]

Also maybe fe rallyx with RB4?

lol i wonder why

[Greboth]

I enjoyed fe gold fox but possible go for some more unusual combos. Maybe something like fox at as north gtr's at fe or something, just mixed up a bit or maybe if want gtr's at aston go for something different than national.

As for when to run the league, those on summer holidays benifit from summer as they have nothing to do but the risk is run of teams having members going on holiday. So IMO would be best to run it later in year, round september time.

[arco]

Oh sorry for not explaining, for me it was obvious :shy:

Reason is, that July / August is summer holidays time. :)

Yup, bad time. October or later will be better. Last Sunday in October we're off summertime, meaning it will be just UTC+1 or +2 for most here in Europe.

[Bawbag]

What about Bl1 - XFG/XRG
times are very close there

20:00UTC should be ok i guess

lol i wonder why


Had to be done, you chose a combo that your team has hotlapped the shit out of then complain because someone else wants a combo they have done? :thumbsup:

How about some variety, Kyoto Gp Long reversed or National reversed for the XFR and UFR, fern bay anything except the club for the xfg and xrg, same with the uf1.

It's really way to boring doing the same combos or the same kind of combos, like Uf1 Fe club, maybe something differnt? Sprint 1 reversed, 2 reversed? Even green reversed, the track doesn't have to be small to have good racing for small cars.

Would just like to see something differnt, like F08 club reversed or something, or maybe even cadet, might sound silly but atleast you will be offering combos that arn't very common.

[Nobo]

Any chance you could set up 2nd Season so thats not colliding with OWRL, that would be great!

[arco]

Had to be done, you chose a combo that your team has hotlapped the shit out of then complain because someone else wants a combo they have done? :thumbsup:

Personally, I haven't been driving the BL1/XFG combo at all for over 6 months. So I guess I'm just as fast/slow as most people there now. :D
Anyhow, that combo isn't the most exciting imo, so whether it's chosen or not doesn't bother me.

Keep the suggestions coming!

[N I K I]

- 16 teams
Division 1
Divison 2
If we were to have divisions then possibly 6 rounds
Round 1: Fern bay Club - UF1
Round 2: South City long - XFR
Round 3: Aston Cadet - TBO
Round 4: Aston ??? - GTR
Round 5: Fern Bay Gold or ??? - FOX
Round 6: Kyoto Ring National - FO8

Comments, criticism, suggestions welcome
:)

I think now we won't need divisions, patch X is out soon (32 cars and maybe more :shrug:).
Round 2: SO City long can be XFR + UFR
We had Aston Cadet - TBO last season, maybe now try whit Aston Club Rev, that combo is just so fun, S backwards is so hard to get right so only best would be fast! And I agree whit XFG+XRG race :) (dunno what track, Blackwood is old school :nod:)
Westhill Grand Prix for GTR, nice track for GTRs :smileypul

Oh and what you guys think about one Formula 1 race. All leagues whit mix cars never drive BF1, why? It would be super fun to have BF1 combo for end of season.

July/August is maybe bad time, cuz ppl are at seaside :tilt:, but you need 2 drivers and I can bet there will be someone from team who can race! This is team champ not drivers!

EDIT: lol bawbag you are so full of rev combos in your post :D (AS club Rev in mine, dudes try that combo it's just fun!)

EDIT2: SO classic REV, one of the best tracks in LFS! Organisers hit some car there ;)

P.S AS Club REV, SO classic REV think about it :D This two tracks are not long, they have passing places and they are big challenge, just what we need :shrug:

EDIT3: I've just looked at Hot Lapps, Aston Club Rev whit XFG+XRG looks good (1:22.380 - 1:22.280), so then hit TBO on SO classic REV :) btw. WRs on SO1R are not really important cuz we will have TBO class weight penalties...

[Tweaker]

Round 2 should be South City Long REV... far better for the XFR cars.

But, you need to have more rounds. At least 8.

Do a round (or more) with a certain car at the following tracks:

-BL GP Rev (always a good one for racing) (LRF?)
-AS North Rev (GTRs?)
-KY National Rev (better overtaking opportunities) (FO8)
-SO Town Rev (a VERY good track for racing with the highspeed downhill braking for the hairpin) (XFG, XRG)

It is no coincidence that the REV tracks are my top recommendations. Reverse directions give some great racing, and prove others in the race that you can be prepared if you practice it. If you don't do reverse combos, it is just same old same old, and that just shows you'd be too noob to want to try anything else :p.

AS Club is by far the worst of all choices Niki.

[N I K I]

-SO Town Rev (a VERY good track for racing with the highspeed downhill braking for the hairpin) (XFG, XRG)

XFG is way to fast here (2 sec.)
AS Club is by far the worst of all choices Niki.
I mean on REV combo :schwitz:

[Bawbag]

I just think you should do it in the exact oposite of tracks from last season. Say we done XFR So long, now stay away from So long and go to Fern Bay or Kyoto, atleast it's not going to be similar track conditions to the first race. :shrug:

[Tweaker]

XFG is way to fast here (2 sec.)

I mean on REV combo :schwitz:
Then choose XFG OR XRG :)

And AS Club is a bad combo all around, normal or reverse. It just isn't very interesting and well made. Too short and not many corners. You guys should stick to tracks that are NOT popular tracks online (eg AS Club, AS Nat).

But oh well, you all want to decide.

[Storm_Cloud]

Any chance you could set up 2nd Season so thats not colliding with OWRL, that would be great!

Yes, that's an idea I like very much. If it misses OWRL then I'm sure R4R could raise a team to race. We would like to compete with all the great teams in this series.

[Kaw]

Lets shuffle some tracks and some cars and put them together randomly.

[jamesrowe]

How about every team nominates a combo just before the start of the season?

[r4ptor]

Lets shuffle some tracks and some cars and put them together randomly.

And risk ending up with something like UF1 @ Oval?

BF1 @ fearn bay?

How about GTR rallycrossing?

Go for it.. lol.

[Greboth]

To be honest the best option has to be to pick sensible but unusual combo's.

[LFSn00b]

http://www.lfs-suomi.com/randomgenerator/index.php
Random Combo Generator gave me the results, don't blame me! How about:
1. BMW Sauber @ Fern Bay RallyX Green Reversed (FE6R)
2. XF GTR @ Fern Bay Rallycross Reversed (FE5R)
3. LX4 @ Kyoto Ring Oval Reversed (KY1R)
4. MRT5 @ Aston Grand Prix (AS5)
5. UF GTR @ Blackwood Rallycross Reversed (BL2R)
6. MRT5 @ Fern Bay RallyX Green Reversed (FE6R)
7. UF 1000 @ Kyoto Oval (KY1)
8. FXO GTR @ Blackwood Rallycross (BL2)

[Davo]

random crap

I hope you've taken some lessons from the shortcomings of the first season and will be building on the good qualities when making season 2.

I'd like to see some variety in the combos. Take some combos that are still fun such as MRT @ so classic or as cadet. I also think the BF1 should be used at a suitable track such as historic. Or you can take a well known overused lfs combo and reverse it to mix it up.

[BenjiMC]

GTR's@AS3R
BF1@KY3R
UF1@BL2
Maybe a time trial event? like the simRS stages?
FO8@SO4R
MRT@AS1R
TBO@FE3R
UFR/XFR@BL1R

i think that's a good bunch of combo's

[AppiePils]

I would strongly suggest:

- Set up a decent organization and a clear set of rules, then decide what kind of tracks, number of teams etc, number of rounds etc this league will consist off.

What last season clearly proved is that the organization was a chaos. A few observations:
- change of rules during the season
- unclear how points were dealt out
- admins not showing up
- lack of rules, or clarity how to interpet the rules

Change all that first before you even consider starting a second season.

[[DUcK]]

Is it possible that when the Aussies are racing to make the start 1hr later?
Sorry, but 5am is really pushing the dedication barrier :P

Cheers, kbai.

[Davo]

If the euro guys don't mind racing in the middle of the day on Sunday, the aussies could race sunday night which would work out a lot better.

[Kaw]

And risk ending up with something like UF1 @ Oval?

BF1 @ fearn bay?

How about GTR rallycrossing?

Go for it.. lol.

Do you allways have to prove that I'm wrong. :shrug:

[Arrow.]

What last season clearly proved is that the organization was a chaos. A few observations:
- change of rules during the season
- unclear how points were dealt out
- admins not showing up
- lack of rules, or clarity how to interpet the rules

Change all that first before you even consider starting a second season.

- There was no rules to begin with, because i thought it would be all common sense but obviously it wasnt and we are not living in a perfect world
- points were dealth out as
1st - 40pts
2nd - 38pts
3rd - 36pts
4th - 34pts
- I was unable to show up for 1 round and arco was sick, i asked paulc2k if he could cover for me if i was away.
- and yes we need to fix the loop holes in the rules

It was our first major League we had hosted. So this season all those problems you have in first season will be fixed for this season :thumb:

[Bawbag]

If the euro guys don't mind racing in the middle of the day on Sunday, the aussies could race sunday night which would work out a lot better.


What time would this be? (For the Euro's :) )

The only problem I would have with that is that if it's bang in the midle of my day (Say 2pm) Then many people wouldn't be able to go out early and come back later on at night. So really it's ruining a day as you're not gunna go out just to come back and play on your pc. :nerd:

[Arrow.]

If we were going to do that Aussie at night euro's during the day, i would suggest
10:00am - 11:00am UTC
8:00pm - 9:00pm AUS
:scratchch

[keithano]

If we were going to do that Aussie at night euro's during the day, i would suggest
10:00am - 11:00am UTC
8:00pm - 9:00pm AUS
:scratchch

How about time in US? East Coast?
Our team would like to enter the league if possible..
as the last session is collided with the schedule of OWRL.
Well, nevermind thro, I am the only U.S driver in the team... just wanna ask^^

[Arrow.]

That is 7:00 AM New York time

[PaulC2K]

http://www.lfs-suomi.com/randomgenerator/index.php
Random Combo Generator gave me the results, don't blame me! How about:
1. BMW Sauber @ Fern Bay RallyX Green Reversed (FE6R)
2. XF GTR @ Fern Bay Rallycross Reversed (FE5R)
3. LX4 @ Kyoto Ring Oval Reversed (KY1R)
4. MRT5 @ Aston Grand Prix (AS5)
5. UF GTR @ Blackwood Rallycross Reversed (BL2R)
6. MRT5 @ Fern Bay RallyX Green Reversed (FE6R)
7. UF 1000 @ Kyoto Oval (KY1)
8. FXO GTR @ Blackwood Rallycross (BL2)

Well Random Combo Generator sure loves the brown stuff!
RX, RX, Oval, Track, RX, RX, Oval, RX
Whoever wrote that script should give themselves a serious kick up the arse!! :smileypul

Im all for restarting things in October, give everyone a break, spend some time coming up with some solid rules and get things nailed down tighter so theres less confusion and everything is black and white instead of having grey areas.

One rule i'd love to see banished is the allowance of people disconnecting, going and watching a bit of TV, bite to eat and take a dump and then right at the end deciding to abuse a rule allowing people to rejoin if they lost connection to the server in order to take points they're not entitled to/worthy of. Anyway, thats for another thread.

[jamesrowe]

We don't want that many rally!!! Two is way more then enough.

I dont mind 10am UTC if it makes it easier for others too.

Also I think its good to have some odd combos and also some other normal as well! But I do like the two divisions idea, last seasons teams in D1 and the new ones such as FPR if they got in with D2.

[Arrow.]

I have been thinking about combo's and came up with this
South City Sprint 2 - MRT
Aston History - TBO
South City Town/Long/Reverse - FOX
Kyoto Ring Long - XFR/UFR
Westhill International - Fo8
Fern Bay Black - GTR
Blackwood GP/Reverse - LRF
Kyoto Ring National Reverse - XFG/XRG
or if you would like a rally, maybe..
Blackwood Rally - XFR/XRG

just some of my suggestions :shrug:

[Greboth]

They look good arrow but personally i would say have no rally stage though. Nice to see bl1/r lrf is still in the running :)

[rc10racer]

Maybe on the lines of these combos

South City Sprint 2 Rev - MRT
Aston North - TBO
Aston Grand Touring Reverse - FOX
Kyoto Ring Long - F08
Westhill International Rev - XFR/UFR
Fern Bay Black - GTR
Fern Bay Green Reverse - LRF
Kyoto Ring National - XFG/XRG
Blackwood Rally - XRT

[arco]

10:00am - 11:00am UTC
Too early! :D

[Arrow.]

11:00am UTC? :shrug:

I like those suggestion rc10racer
South City Sprint 2 - MRT
Aston North - TBO
Aston Grand Touring Reverse - FOX
Kyoto Ring Long - F08
Westhill International Rev - XFR/UFR
Fern Bay Black - GTR
Fern Bay Green Reverse - LRF
Kyoto Ring National - XFG/XRG
Blackwood Rally - XRT

What do u all think?

[jamesrowe]

I think BL1/r was one of the best events of the last season with the LRF! Would be good to do it again, also maybe something like GTR/Bl1 also, shortish track with GTRs tend to be good fun!

[Jonesy_]

My suggestion would be to drop the sled off, or at least change of track, since sprint2 is nothing but an alleyway, not even a close to a circle to have a race on, nevermind a track.

And I´d suggest lx4 to be driven on WE reversed too, not driven there too much but everytime I had the chance it felt like right next to eating candy. :tilt:

[nikka]

South City Sprint 2 Rev - MRT
Although this is my favourite combo, it's hard to have a league race here, since it got no pits, and the grid is limited to 16 cars.
But SO1(r)/MRT is a great combo too :)

[jamesrowe]

OK to make Arrow's life harder, here are my choices :D:

BL1 - GTRs
Bl1R - LRF
SO Sprint 1 - TBOs
AS Cadet - MRT
Kyoto Ring National - XFG/XRG
Westhill International - FOX
SO Classic - UFR/XFR
Kyoto Ring Long - BF1

And then for the last round something slightly special, the D1 teams race FE Green Reverse in UFR/XFR while the D2 race XFG/XRG. Now would'nt that be fun :D... But I do like the idea of a special last race with both D's racing in different class of car on the same track!

[Arrow.]

South City Town - MRT
Aston North - TBO
Aston Grand Touring Reverse - FOX
Kyoto Ring Long - F08
Westhill International - XFR/UFR
Fern Bay Black - GTR
Fern Bay Green Reverse - LRF
Kyoto Ring National - XFG/XRG


These are the rounds we are likely to use, any objections?

[N I K I]

South City Town - MRT
Aston North - TBO (use REV)
Aston Grand Touring Reverse - FOX
Kyoto Ring Long - F08
Westhill International - XFR/UFR
Fern Bay Black - GTR
Fern Bay Green Reverse - LRF
Kyoto Ring National - XFG/XRG (use REV)

I think you just need to change this!

[jamesrowe]

OK then, no one even comment on my ideas. Il just not bother making an effort to build BOTT 2, suits me fine.

[Greboth]

OK then, no one even comment on my ideas. Il just not bother making an effort to build BOTT 2, suits me fine.

ok fine by us :razz:

Could be interesting with the less popular combo's chosen arrow :)

[DeadWolfBones]

CoRe is interested in running, but, well, 7am EST just isn't doable. :/

[arco]

CoRe is interested in running, but, well, 7am EST just isn't doable. :/

If the aussies could get up at 6am, then you can too. :thumb: :D:D

[DeadWolfBones]

Ok, ok... let me rephrase...

Doable, but not likely. :tilt:

[BenjiMC]

guessing it's 50 laps does that mean we're gonna have another 2 hour race

South City Town - MRT
Aston North - TBO<<<<Here
Aston Grand Touring Reverse - FOX <<<<Here
Kyoto Ring Long - F08
Westhill International - XFR/UFR
Fern Bay Black - GTR <<<< Here?
Fern Bay Green Reverse - LRF
Kyoto Ring National - XFG/XRG<<<<And here

Endurance championships anyone?

[traxxion]

I'd say make it fixed time instead of fixed amount of laps. One hour races anyone?

[jamesrowe]

Ok, ok... let me rephrase...

Doable, but not likely. :tilt:
Perhaps you will do more then one combo this time :razz:

[arco]

I'd say make it fixed time instead of fixed amount of laps. One hour races anyone?
One hour races sounds good to me.

[Storm_Cloud]

OK then, no one even comment on my ideas. Il just not bother making an effort to build BOTT 2, suits me fine.

I love all of your ideas :)

Can Ready 4 Racing (www.r4r.org.uk (http://www.r4r.org.uk)) go on some sort of provisional entry list?

Cheers

[DeadWolfBones]

Perhaps you will do more then one combo this time :razz:

Ouch!

(I wasn't involved last time, though. :razz:)

[BenjiMC]

I'd say make it fixed time instead of fixed amount of laps. One hour races anyone?

Best idea all day.

@James, you can talk considering some of your teams previous antics. but lets not get into that...

[jamesrowe]

I love all of your ideas :)



Thank you :)

Ouch!

(I wasn't involved last time, though. :razz:)

Was only a joke mate, I'm sure Core will own :D

Best idea all day.

@James, you can talk considering some of your teams previous antics. but lets not get into that...

YES lets not go there, thought RF was going to "own" DR with you... looks like RF was not good enough to keep you :x:razz:


Right back on topic: I like the one hour idea. Beats having to do hours and hours like an endurance when there is a long combo

[Arni Arnason]

Yep, 1.hour race is the way to go i think .:)
I think thease combos are all right, but id love to see LRF/BL1R again :thumb:

South City Town - MRT
Aston North - TBO (use REV)
Aston Grand Touring Reverse - FOX
Kyoto Ring Long - F08
Westhill International - XFR/UFR
Fern Bay Black - GTR
Fern Bay Green Reverse - LRF
Kyoto Ring National - XFG/XRG (use REV)

[[DUcK]]

Yeah I like Arni's ideas :)

[Arrow.]

The Combos are..

South City Town - MRT
Aston North - TBO
Aston Grand Touring Reverse - FOX
Kyoto Ring Long - F08
Westhill International - XFR/UFR
Fern Bay Black - GTR
Fern Bay Green Reverse - LRF
Kyoto Ring National Reverse - XFG/XRG

[jamesrowe]

The Combos are..

South City Town - MRT - hmm
Aston North - TBO - wish it was a shorter track with TBOs!
Aston Grand Touring Reverse - FOX - Sounds good.
Kyoto Ring Long - F08 - I wonder why KY was chosen again?
Westhill International - XFR/UFR - Very interesting.
Fern Bay Black - GTR - Boring.
Fern Bay Green Reverse - LRF - Should have at least one old combo from BOTT1, this should have been Bl1/r again.
Kyoto Ring National Reverse - XFG/XRG - Another KY ring :really:, at least make it the correct way round!

Yes thats it!

[Kaw]

Team name
Turbo Piston Crew (TPC) http://tpc.liveforspeed.se (http://tpc.liveforspeed.se/)

Team Manager
TPC M.Karlsson

Team Logo
http://lfs.freeprohost.com/images/tpclogo.png

Render team skin
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/LFSskins/xrr_tpcnew.jpg

Team history - League results
Winner of RXC season 1 and 3.
1st, 2nd and 3rd places in pool 1 races in OLFSL.
Winner of Torsdagsrace 2 seasons in row.
Propobly best swedish LFS team atm.


Number of drivers:
5

List of drivers:
TPC M.Karlsson (http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=stats&racer=jmracing1) (jmracing1)
TPC L.Engberg (http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=stats&racer=3ttan) (3ttan)
TPC J.Anserius (http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=stats&racer=Anserius) (anserius)
TPC S.Johansson (http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=stats&racer=nollan) (nollan)
TPC F.Kronvall (http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=stats&racer=kronvall) (kronvall)


woooo Nordisk isslet :) Fedt nok :D

[niall09]

thats the same as GMT, right? if so it will be 12BST which is kind of late for some people :o

[arco]

thats the same as GMT, right? if so it will be 12BST which is kind of late for some people :o
Silly 12 hour clock system. :tilt: I have no idea why some english speaking countries still hold on to that system. Thank god we're not using Thai 6 hour clock system! That said, 11 UTC is the same as 12 noon BST, or 11am GMT.

[Arni Arnason]

arco, youre so good with the clock:thumb:

[niall09]

Silly 12 hour clock system. :tilt: I have no idea why some english speaking countries still hold on to that system. Thank god we're not using Thai 6 hour clock system! That said, 11 UTC is the same as 12 noon BST, or 11am GMT.

Still though, if it runs on through september and later, we would be in school :shrug:

[LFSn00b]

Why not moving the BOTT to saturdays then? 2am is way too late in school days


EDIT: nvm, it's 3pm, so i can race :P

[niall09]

oops :o , i see that all the dates are at weekends, silly me :p

[arco]

It IS on saturdays. :) September 9th is on a sunday though. Not sure if that's a slip from Arrow.

[AleBerB]

Render team skin

Can't someone else do that? :p



I can make the render for the team, sendme the skin or post it :thumb:

[joshdifabio]

I can make the render for the team, sendme the skin or post it :thumb:

Thanks, I'll drop you a PM some time :).

[[DUcK]]

Fluid Ftw!

[keithano]

Wow..Fluid and pod. , the next season is going to be interesting thro. What is the application deadline? I need to ask my teammates about this ^^

[Storm_Cloud]

Presumably you will be oversubscribed. What happens in that case? Will there be a preseason? Will there be two divisions?

[keithano]

Presumably you will be oversubscribed. What happens in that case? Will there be a preseason? Will there be two divisions?

Arrow said that there will be 2 divison.

[[DUcK]]

Way to steal arrow's avatar idea keith :D

(not spam)

[Nobo]

I really doubt there are enough teams for 2 divisions over the season, go for one division, do a pre-qualification by hotlap and put the rest on the waiting list if they want. If the team really cares about the event, then they will wait for their chance to enter BOTT. But thats just my opinion and how i would do that.

@Duck: Hehe, one of our mates saw your avatar and said "I WANT THIS" :D
Take it as a compliment for your idea and your work!:nod:

[LordBlaster]

;448115']Way to steal arrow's avatar idea keith :D

(not spam)

ehhhh, ahhh, ohhhh, i think i must admit it was me, who gave this job to
our master-skinners... sorry for copying your great idea.... :smileypul

but i can assure they work on a differnt version.... :thumb:

sorry for beeing so much OT :shrug:

edit: i can tell you, your new one looks 1000 times better ;)

[Kaw]

;448115']Way to steal arrow's avatar idea keith :D

(not spam)


The only thing made by arrow worth stealing :D

[[DUcK]]

The only thing made by arrow worth stealing :D
hahahaha :D

btw, i dont really care if arrow's avatar gets stolen, it aint mine:tilt:
urs one looks good anyway :razz:

[LordBlaster]

;449288']hahahaha :D

btw, i dont really care if arrow's avatar gets stolen, it aint mine:tilt:
urs one looks good anyway :razz:

oops, thought about giving this order to your skinnerz, because it looks
so nice ;)

:D

[[DUcK]]

:d

[GTR_PT]

Here we gooo:laola: :headbang: :headbang:

[[DUcK]]

prove it :P

[Kaw]

- Team Logo: uhm, soon, any restrictions for that?

Yep. But if you use your mind then there arent. :)

[niall09]

speaking of logo's, anyone want to make us one? :p

[dodo.ger]

Yep. But if you use your mind then there arent. :)
o k, can i get at least any infos, like size? i didnt find anything about...

[Kaw]

o k, can i get at least any infos, like size? i didnt find anything about...

I dont really know anything about it. But i assume there arent any restrictions. We just cut it dont. I think :) :nod:

[Arrow.]

o k, can i get at least any infos, like size? i didnt find anything about...
Bigger logos would be better :thumb:

[joshdifabio]

There are some really fast South American, Baltic, Spanish and French teams which may be worth inviting? What about the Aussie teams too? Maybe if there were a lot of teams participating, there could be regional divisions (Australasia, Europe, North America) and then some kind of finals at the end to make racing times easier for everyone?

It would be nice to have all the best teams participating, at the moment it's only really the english speaking teams registered.

[Arrow.]

There are some really fast South American, Baltic, Spanish and French teams which may be worth inviting? What about the Aussie teams too? Maybe if there were a lot of teams participating, there could be regional divisions (Australasia, Europe, North America) and then some kind of finals at the end to make racing times easier for everyone?

It would be nice to have all the best teams participating, at the moment it's only really the english speaking teams registered.

Let me know of the teams i can send them a invite :nod:
i can let the aussie teams know :thumb:
The regional divisions (something like A1 GP of LFS) is a good idea but it wouldnt work for most teams example fusion has European and Australian drivers.

[joshdifabio]

Some of these teams may have been invited already, but I don't know that so I'll just list some of the best teams which aren't yet signed-up.

Drivers from Hell (http://www.dfh-racing.org/)
F1rst Racing (http://www.1stracing.nl/)
Good Friends Connection (http://www.gfc-racing.com/)
Grentis Racing Team (http://www.grentis-racing.com/)
High FiDelity (http://www.hfd.de/)
iNf!N!tY*SkillS (http://www.infinity-skills.hu/)
Italian Racing Team (http://www.italianracingteam.it/)
#low-racing (http://www.low-racing.net/)
masterblasters (http://www.my-mb.de/)
Mercury Racing Team (http://www.mercuryracingteam.com/)
n!Faculty (http://www.faculty.de/)
Pedal to the Metal (http://www.pm-racingteam.de/)
Q3 Team (http://www.q3team.es/)
Renesis (http://www.crunkland.info/)
Scirocco Players (http://www.sciroccoplayers.de/)
Serbian Racing Team (http://www.automototrke.net/sert/)
Sunday Drivers Incorporation (http://www.g-m.name/sdi/)
Team Inferno (http://www.teaminferno.hu/)
ToniKe TeaM (http://www.liveforspeed.es/)
Triple 7 Racing (http://www.triple7racing.net/)

There are probably lots more, I might add some later.

[germanpio]

How will be the division decided where a team takes part?

[Arrow.]

Drivers from Hell - Already entered
F1rst Racing - Discussing
Good Friends Connection - invites via pm
Grentis Racing Team - Too busy
High FiDelity - cant read the site
iNf!N!tY*SkillS - invites via pm [no time]
Italian Racing Team - invites via pm
#low-racing - invites via pm
masterblasters - invites via pm
Mercury Racing Team - Discussing
n!Faculty - invites via pm
Pedal to the Metal - invites via pm
Q3 Team - cant read the site
Renesis - invites via pm
Scirocco Players - Site not Working
Serbian Racing Team - Discussing
Sunday Drivers Incorporation - cant read the site
Team Inferno - invites via pm
ToniKe TeaM - cant read the site
Triple 7 Racing - Discussing


How will be the division decided where a team takes part?

[MyBoss]

If I enter HR into the series.

Can we add drivers later when we get new drivers?

[Arrow.]

yes :nod:

[MyBoss]

Ok, good. That does it for me :)

[PaulC2K]

Drivers from Hell - Already entered
F1rst Racing - Discussing
Good Friends Connection - invites via pm
Grentis Racing Team - Too busy
High FiDelity - cant read the site
iNf!N!tY*SkillS - invites via pm [no time]
Italian Racing Team - invites via pm
#low-racing - invites via pm
masterblasters - invites via pm
Mercury Racing Team - Discussing
n!Faculty - invites via pm
Pedal to the Metal - invites via pm
Q3 Team - cant read the site
Renesis - invites via pm
Scirocco Players - Site not Working
Serbian Racing Team - Discussing
Sunday Drivers Incorporation - cant read the site
Team Inferno - invites via pm
ToniKe TeaM - cant read the site
Triple 7 Racing - Discussing

Discussing?? :razz::D
I've already put us down as being in, post #6 or there abouts.

As ive said a few times, provided theres competition then were happy to compete, Thunder provided that for a few races last time round and havent been seen since, but having Cyber there should make things interesting. I think last time round it suffered because we seemed to be the only team putting in consistant results, others would be quick for a few rounds but then have a bad race or 2 and lose ground, we were lucky to only have 1 bad round (because our drivers werent able to race) and i think with the new additions it should be much tighter and fewer occasions where teams have both their drivers in the top 6.

[[DUcK]]

i think ur underestimating fusion this season :D
were gonna train n stuff lol :P

[Arrow.]

Look at Rnd1 Hotlaps for example :smileypul

[Jonesy_]

Look at Rnd1 Hotlaps for example :smileypul

Can I hotlap too?

[AtomAnt]

yes :nod:


I still haven't heard from you? Any word on what you asked me?

Contact me soon please...got a lot on the go, can multi task when i know what I'm up against :)

Looking forward to speaking with you soon.

AtomAnt

[[DUcK]]

Can I hotlap too?
sorry no. we would like to keep replays playable at normal speed, rather watching replays at the speed of light. :D

[CarstenH]

Why doesnt our site work ? :)
But I got an pm and we entered now ;)

Our site: www.sciroccoplayers.com

[Arrow.]

Welcome :thumb::smileypul