FO8 Racing League

[Gentlefoot]

Gentlefoot is considering launching a new league exclusively for the FO8 or possibly dual Formula with the FOX. Format to be decided. The launch will come after patch X is released. This will mean the potential for 28 grid slots!

Please vote in the poll the format you would be most interested in. Any additional comments/suggestions would be most welcome.


MODS: Sorry - just noticed this is in the wrong Forum. Any chance it can be moved to Leagues and Events? Sorry.

[Storm_Cloud]

Where do I sign up??

Do you mean FO8 and FOX on same grid, like a single seater Le Mans style multi-class race? That would be interesting on a 28 man grid.

I would also go for races over 1 hour. Anything under one hour and two things happen:

1) There is less patience amongst racers leading to public server style "optimistic" attempts to pass. Long races seem to help this, as would disallowing shift-s and reset.

2) Under 60 minutes and there is no strategy - it is no stops. Over the hour mark and depending on the track, the tyre usage and pit lane length mean that 1 stop or no stop can be used.

[Gentlefoot]

Where do I sign up??

Do you mean FO8 and FOX on same grid, like a single seater Le Mans style multi-class race? That would be interesting on a 28 man grid.

I would also go for races over 1 hour. Anything under one hour and two things happen:

1) There is less patience amongst racers leading to public server style "optimistic" attempts to pass. Long races seem to help this, as would disallowing shift-s and reset.

2) Under 60 minutes and there is no strategy - it is no stops. Over the hour mark and depending on the track, the tyre usage and pit lane length mean that 1 stop or no stop can be used.

Yep - FO8 and FOX on same grid Le Mans style - exactly :)

Some good points there Stormy - most welcomed.

[Dr Dink]

started in the FOX league with the CRC before it collapsed due to poor turn out (I was there for all races till the end) and was really enjoying the open wheeled racing. Rules on overtaking must be adheared to in these cars as any kind of contact can be race ending :(

[The Moose]

I voted FO8 only, Fortnightly 1 hour races(though i'd be happy to race over an hour) and yes, I would definitely sign up :thumb: today..without hesitation:D

[FL!P]

I checked both single class and dual class, as I woud be interested in both. Given a choice between those two, though, I think I'd chose dual.

Good points raised by Storm. I agree with him so I voted for "over 1 hour races". Not sure what you mean exactly with "league system", but I checked that too, assuming it meant championships with precise rules.

Where do I sign up? :D

[banshee56]

Gentlefoot, the League Of The Americas just finished it's second FO8 season, and I have one suggestion for you: DO NOT CHOOSE Fern Bay Green! :thumb:

Other than that, try to choose wide open tracks that provide for plenty of maneuvering room due to the aero-push you get with the FO8.

[Gentlefoot]

Gentlefoot, the League Of The Americas just finished it's second FO8 season, and I have one suggestion for you: DO NOT CHOOSE Fern Bay Green! :thumb:

Other than that, try to choose wide open tracks that provide for plenty of maneuvering room due to the aero-push you get with the FO8.

Thanks for the advice dude. I was planning on concentrating on very "suitable" tracks :)

[tombarlin]

i think a mixed grid of one hour races would be amazing and i will definatly be takin part if that is the case :thumb:

[andy_bonjon]

would love an FO8 only league and over 1 hour races would be good as you get proper races in them that arent spoilt by impatient b*st*rds!! and it will give a chance for strategy to play a part as well.

i only voted 'i might sign up' because it depends on where i am and what im doing at the time... as a uni student im moving around a lot atm and nothing is certain for more than a few months.... otherwise i am definitely up for this league

[Storm_Cloud]

Thanks for the advice dude. I was planning on concentrating on very "suitable" tracks :)

I hope that doesn't mean you are ruling out South City - just not Classic! One of the most enjoyable OWRL races I have had so far is SO Town and I was stuck behind someone for 30 laps - loved it.

[Gentlefoot]

I hope that doesn't mean you are ruling out South City - just not Classic! One of the most enjoyable OWRL races I have had so far is SO Town and I was stuck behind someone for 30 laps - loved it.


hmmm - maybe towards the end of the season when everyone has their hand in.

[BigDave2967]

I'm certainly interested in for it, just depends what days you are willing to do?

[Gentlefoot]

I'm certainly interested in for it, just depends what days you are willing to do?

Once I've decided the format I will request people to enlist as a provisional entry. All those people who enter will then be polled as to which day/time the events will take place. That way we maximise entries. Then everyone on the provisional list will be able to decide to put in a formal entry to the competition depending on the day of racing.

[Gentlefoot]

OK the poll seems to have run it's course so this is the format I propose.



Dual FOX and FO8 entries (14 entries per race in each class);

Overall Championship rank and separate FOX and FO8 ranks;

Championship entries unlimited;

1st come first served basis for event entry with reserve list;

12 Events (1 season) held fortnightly;

Races approx 75mins in length (pit stop will be required at most circuits);

League system and points for each event;

Entrants will be able to drop their two lowest scores so they can miss up to two races per season without losing points;

Independent judicial system for decisions and appeals;

Warnings, penalties and possible bans for bad driving;

Approx Start Date: May/June 07 or when patch X is released.

Schedule of events to follow along with detailed rules, guidance and grievance procedures. One trial event will be held prior to the start of the season to allow rules and procedures to be clarified and set in stone ready for season 1.

Please sign up for the provisional entry list (by confirming your entry in this thread) and you will be eligible for voting rights to decide the time and day for the events. Please state what car you wish to drive. If everyone says FO8 then the mixed grid idea will have to bite the dust.

Ofcourse if I recieve less than 30 entries the championship will be abandoned.

So hope I get lots of sign ups :)

Current Entrants:

Gentlefoot (FOX) GB
Storm_Cloud (FO8) GB
FL!P (FO8) FRA
Dr Dink (FOX) GB
ELR AndyGer (FO8) GER
kdempsey (FO8) IRL
nikimere (FO8) IRL
Davo (FO8) AUS
BurnOut69 (FO8) ESP
BigDave2967 (FO8) GB
Toothy (FOX) GB
ChristijaNL (FO8) NL
The Moose (FO8) GB
Gopher04 (FOX) GB
Solidum[NL] (FO8) NL
tombarlin (FO8) GB
starblue (FOX) ITA
robt (FOX) GB
Moo.Looney (FOX) ENG
racer_hero (FOX) CAN
ATC Bandit (FOX) GB
zeugnimod (FOX) GER
andy_bonjon (FO8) GB
[DBP] Stoney (FOX) GB
CELTIC100 (FOX) WAL
K.David (FO8) HUN
sly_guy (FOX) GB
kiethano (FOX) POR
Dygear (FO8) USA
Ian Maslen (FOX) GB
ajp71 (FO8) GB
Gabkicks (FO8) USA
Redline Blade (FOX) GB
TeTE (FO8) ESP
count.bazley (FOX) GB
Juiceman (FOX) USA
Keiran (FO8) SCO
Garph (FO8) GB
Adam5k1 (FO8) GB
Nick A (FOX) GB
nigelpm (FOX) GB
ted209 (FOX) GB
DonTob (FOX) GER
audimasta (FO8) NOR

[Storm_Cloud]

I wish to enter, nay, I DEMAND entry. :thumb:

[FL!P]

Sounds great, GF. Count me in.

[Dr Dink]

sign me up as a back marker he he :), Im in for the FOX

[Storm_Cloud]

I would also like to book a provisional entry for ELR Andy (GER) as I'm sure he will be well up for this.

[kdempsey]

Hi,

I would also like to join this if there is any spaces available??:thumb:

I'll be in F08!!!

[nikimere]

Count me in too! But please don't mix the grids!
28 F08 would be bloody amazing!!

I'll be in an F08... obviously :)

[Davo]

Signing up and requesting an FO8.

btw why hasn't this been moved to leagues yet?

[Gentlefoot]

Signing up and requesting an FO8.

btw why hasn't this been moved to leagues yet?

Consider it done.

Nope - no mods have read the thread I guess.

[Storm_Cloud]

Andy and I will be FO8 entrants

[BurnOut69]

I'm in too - FO8 please :)

[FL!P]

FO8 too for me.

[BigDave2967]

FO8 for me also please.

[Toothy]

Don't worry Dink, I will join you. FOX for me please :)

[ChristijaNL]

Id like a spot with formula 8.

[The Moose]

I'm in with f08 pls:thumb:

[Gopher04]

FOX for me please..

[Leprekaun]

I'll join in :D. FO8 for me plz GF :D

[Solidum[NL]]

Count me in!
F08 would be nice:)

[tombarlin]

count me in fo8 preferrably

[Leprekaun]

GF, if you could please :D. Change the IRL to EGY :D. I'll be racing for Egypt this time league. First ever Egyptian in a league :p

[Starblue]

Add a FOX for me :)

[robt]

il run FOX me thinks, count me in.

[The General Lee]

Moo.Looney > FOX

:thumb:

[racer hero]

FOX plz.

[zeugnimod]

Sorry, but what exactly does "fortnightly" mean? I guess it means that there will be one race per week!?

If yes, I would like to participate with the FOX. :)

[WildRacerUK]

I've been debating to whether run in this league. But since I was part of the previous CRC Fox league I guess I am gonna have to run in this with the FOX I just don't trust myself with the F08 just yet.

So yes count me in with the FOX.

ATC Bandit

[Storm_Cloud]

Sorry, but what exactly does "fortnightly" mean? I guess it means that there will be one race per week!?

If yes, I would like to participate with the FOX. :)

Fortnightly means one race every two weeks, so you will get a weekend off between races to get fresh air, chase girls, read a book, or practice for the following round.

[zeugnimod]

Even better!

Count me in then. :D

[Gentlefoot]

Sorry, but what exactly does "fortnightly" mean? I guess it means that there will be one race per week!?

If yes, I would like to participate with the FOX. :)

forget it lol being an idiot

[andy_bonjon]

FO8 for me :thumb: :thumb:

please please dont mix the grids though... the two cars arent close enough for it to be worthwhile. i raced on a combo yesterday with fo8 and fox and it was absolute carnage... the fo8's are just so much faster!! and if you get loads of entries (which looks likely) split it into two servers, one for fox and one for fo8

jusst my 2p :thumb:

[Solidum[NL]]

;403283']Count me in!
F08 would be nice:)

You know what? Make it FOX:):D

[Gentlefoot]

FO8 for me :thumb: :thumb:

please please dont mix the grids though... the two cars arent close enough for it to be worthwhile. i raced on a combo yesterday with fo8 and fox and it was absolute carnage... the fo8's are just so much faster!! and if you get loads of entries (which looks likely) split it into two servers, one for fox and one for fo8

jusst my 2p :thumb:

If people cause 'carnage' they will recieve penalties. The idea of thre mixed grid is for it to be like Le Mans. Drivers have to be aware that there are slower cars about. Occasionally there are accidents. It all adds interest. I love the idea as do many others and it makes the series different to every other FO8 league. On my server last night the two classes were running together no probs.

So sorry dude, but we're sticking with it :)

[CELTIC100]

I'll Run Fox Please ;)

Will be good prep for the new STCC servers Looking forward to taking part :thumb:

[K.David]

What time would the qualification/race start? Is there a compulsory numberplate/decal to put on skins in order to participate? Are there any restrictions concerning nicknames ingame?
I'm considering joining in an FO8 if there's still room.

[sly_guy]

I'd love to join in an FOX if theres still slots :)..

[Gentlefoot]

What time would the qualification/race start? Is there a compulsory numberplate/decal to put on skins in order to participate? Are there any restrictions concerning nicknames ingame?
I'm considering joining in an FO8 if there's still room.

Please refer to the rest of this thread for the answers to your questions. :)There will be a vote for day/time, rules and procedures to follow. No nickname restrictions.

[Gentlefoot]

People have asked if there will be teams. If you wish to form a team of two cars than that is encouraged. If you want an A and B team then that's fine too. I will add a Team Rank to total up points scored by each team.

[CELTIC100]

Just read the entry list worked perfectly 28 Drivers with perfect 50/50 split between FO8 and Fox at 14 cars in each group :D

Suprised you chose the Fox yourself Gentlefoot.

[Gentlefoot]

Just read the entry list worked perfectly 28 Drivers with perfect 50/50 split between FO8 and Fox at 14 cars in each group :D

Suprised you chose the Fox yourself Gentlefoot.

Competition in the FO8 class is a lot tougher. People like Storm_cloud, AndyGer and quite probably papafant and Grandhuber may enter. In addition I will only enter if I can't get a full grid for an event. :)

[CELTIC100]

Looks like some tough competition in the FO8 class and some of the Fox runners I recognise from the STCC servers, I think were all thinking alike as this is an ideal grounding for the New STCC Licence servers can't wait to get started :thumb:

I was racing with Papafant the other eve on the Z30 server in the MRT around SO City Classic he was running some very low 50's and dipped into the 49's once in a while very impressive, also got my PB down to 50.75 that eve after less than 180 laps for that combo.

I know Aston from conedodgers and redline but the KY curcuits I have very little experience bordering on none so it's back to practice and hope to see you all on track tonight ;)

[zeugnimod]

forget it lol being an idiot

Eh..ok. You can be relieved I didnt read the original post. :D

[keithano]

Am i welcome? ..

If I am, put me into the FOX class ^^

[Gentlefoot]

Am i welcome? ..

If I am, put me into the FOX class ^^

All are welcome :)

[Dygear]

Yeah, sign me up, I don't care the car FO8 is preferred over the FOX, but really, I don't mind.

[Gentlefoot]

OK I’ve been having some more ideas about how I will be running this league. I will add an LFS section to my website www.gentlefoot.com. This part of the website will have all sorts of LFS stuff in it. In particular, the indepth multimedia track guides will be available. These include textual descriptions, telemetry data, drive bys with voice overs and stills of turn in and apex points. I’m part way through the first of these and I will create guides for the tracks that we’ll be competing at in the Gentlefoot Championship. They are track and car specific and will initially only be available for the FO8. The setups used for the track guide analysis will also be available.

Also there will be a Gentlefoot Championship forum for pre and post race discussion and judicial decisions. I will also create a rules section. This will again be multimedia and will describe what is and isn’t acceptable in this competition. We have to be aware that there will be two classes on track. When an FO8 laps a FOX they must keep in mind the fact that even though the FOX is a lap down it could be the lead FOX or even the FOX championship leader and must be treated with respect.

Grievance procedure will be defined here too. I as Race Director will make decisions regarding penalties for inappropriate driving. You will be able to appeal my decisions and my father (who is a magistrate and has competed in karting) will be familier with the rules and apply them as he sees fit in the event of an appeal. I myself will only take part in races where I cannot fill a grid so it shouldn’t be too often that there is a conflict of interests here.

The rules that I will define will form the ‘statute’ if you like for the Gentlefoot Championship. All decisions will be recorded over time and this will build into ‘case law’ and these decisions must be followed when making later judgments. Where decisions are overturned by appeal, the appeal decisions will be followed. Case law will be reffered to when the ‘material facts’ of an incident are the same. This should ensure consistency in decisions but also allow some flexibilty by way of appeal.

The site will also include race results and championship standings.

[Dr Dink]

Man GF you are eally making this run like a RL championship. I LOVE IT!!! :)

[Gentlefoot]

Man GF you are eally making this run like a RL championship. I LOVE IT!!! :)

Thanks mate. Although I really hope we can keep the judicial side to a minimum. I want this to be a gentleman race series where there are very few arguments for me to have to sort out.

[keithano]

Cool ! Would love to see the site working..
and still waiting for detail like tracks and time

[Gentlefoot]

Cool ! Would love to see the site working..
and still waiting for detail like tracks and time

It's gonna take me some time to develop all that content hence the planned start date some time in June.

As for days and times, as mentioned previosly, everyone on the provisional entry list will be able to vote on this.

[Ian Maslen]

This sounds like a great idea, whether it is a mixed grid or not. I would love to take part in a series like this in either a Fox of an F08.

[Gentlefoot]

This sounds like a great idea, whether it is a mixed grid or not. I would love to take part in a series like this in either a Fox of an F08.

What's your car preference dude?

[Dr Dink]

next OFFICIAL patch should be out by the time this gets going so that means we could have 32 grid slots :) Man that will be crazy

[Gentlefoot]

next OFFICIAL patch should be out by the time this gets going so that means we could have 32 grid slots :) Man that will be crazy


Yep - that's my intention.

[Storm_Cloud]

You're putting so much effort into this GF - I really hope it comes off for you. I will support this as much as I can.

I hope everyone can recognise all the work you are putting in and will repay this commitment by turning up for as many races as they possibly can.

[Starblue]

I hope everyone can recognise all the work you are putting in and will repay this commitment by turning up for as many races as they possibly can.
I'll do :)

I really look forward to the trial event, I think it will be important to see "in practice" how it will work out with the rules and the different types of cars on the track.
Actually I hope that there will be occasions to have mixed FOX/FO8 practice on Gentlefoot's server even before the official trial event :)

[CELTIC100]

next OFFICIAL patch should be out by the time this gets going so that means we could have 32 grid slots :) Man that will be crazy

Imagine T1 :bump: and pitstops could get a little crazy for shorter races in particular :D

Wonder if the devs have considered rolling starts.

Looking good so far Gentlefoot :thumb:

[Gentlefoot]

I'll do :)

I really look forward to the trial event, I think it will be important to see "in practice" how it will work out with the rules and the different types of cars on the track.
Actually I hope that there will be occasions to have mixed FOX/FO8 practice on Gentlefoot's server even before the official trial event :)

Well the server is always up and running. Currently set for FOX and FO8 at KY GP Long which has proved a popular combo.

[The Moose]

Although I really hope we can keep the judicial side to a minimum. I want this to be a gentleman race series where there are very few arguments for me to have to sort out.

This is sounding better by the post :)

It appears to be far more like what im used too at the GPC nKPro championship where a very professional approach has been taken, which resulted in,as you called it, a gentelmans race series.
Of course there are always a few incidents that the stewards have too look into, but in 3 seasons only one incident made it to the Court of Appeal (of which I'm a member), which goes to show that if you run a league in a certain style you end up with a certain style of racer participating.

Best of luck with this GF, it looks like it's going to be a great league:thumb: I cant wait for it to begin:)

[The Moose]

Imagine T1 :bump: and pitstops could get a little crazy for shorter races in particular :D

There really is no reason for T1 incidents to happen with any size of grid, as long as people take extra care and have a bit of self control.
A hefty punishment for causing a blatantly stupid T1 accident should help to keep people in check imo.

[ajp71]

Any FO8 slots left?

[Gentlefoot]

This is sounding better by the post :)

It appears to be far more like what im used too at the GPC nKPro championship where a very professional approach has been taken, which resulted in,as you called it, a gentelmans race series.
Of course there are always a few incidents that the stewards have too look into, but in 3 seasons only one incident made it to the Court of Appeal (of which I'm a member), which goes to show that if you run a league in a certain style you end up with a certain style of racer participating.

Best of luck with this GF, it looks like it's going to be a great league:thumb: I cant wait for it to begin:)

Thanks for the vote of confidence mate. I hope that the approach I take to judicial results in consistent decisions but still allows flexibility. As for appeals what I don't want is for people to appeal decisions every time as a matter of course. I may even require a small deposit to lodge an appeal (about £10) which will be refundable if the decision is overturned. That should ensure people only appeal if they feel they have a strong case.

Also, before any decisions are made both parties will get their chance to explain things as they saw them unlike many leagues where the plaintiff makes a complaint and the decision is made without consulting the other driver. This is something that has annoyed me in the past. All decisions will refer back to the rules which the driver may or may not have been in breach of.

I think looking at the list of entrants it should be a gentlemanly competition. All the names I recognise I have the greatest of respect for and know they are clean. I will look to these drivers to lead the way for some of the less experienced guys that may enter.

[Gabkicks]

i would like to sign up for this F08 league

[Gentlefoot]

i would like to sign up for this F08 league

You've been added.

I'm going to change the server name tonight from GentlefootFO8FOXRacing to GentlefootFormulaRacing. Should be done in just over an hour :). Oh and the event will be known as "The Gentlefoot Formula Challenge" or GFC for short :)

[eindh]

An FO8 for me, please :)

[Leprekaun]

GF, apologies but I won't be able to race in the league :(. I've decided to give full commitment to the SGPS. Sorry again :(

[Storm_Cloud]

What is SGPS?

[keithano]

Sim Grand Prix Series, a new BF1 League

[dadge]

GF, apologies but I won't be able to race in the league :(. I've decided to give full commitment to the SGPS. Sorry again :( lol, i wonder why, has wittew wepwakaun have somfin to pwoove? lol

[Leprekaun]

nope, nuthin, zilch.

[count.bazley]

Hey Gentlefoot, could you pencil me in for one of the FOX seats please? :)

[Storm_Cloud]

nope, nuthin, zilch.


Well done for not taking the bait there Lep :thumb:

[Gentlefoot]

OK all added and updated :)

I had a PM from one entrant explaining problems he had joining the server. He is using Tiscali and they use port throttling. Has anyone else had problems of this nature?

It might be an idea to attempt to connect to my server and check that you don't have this problem also. Let me know if you do. It should be possible to change the port to get round this issue.

Thanks.

GF

[andybarsblade]

can i change my entry to FOX instead of F08 please.

[Gentlefoot]

can i change my entry to FOX instead of F08 please.

done :)

[keithano]

wow... redline blade comes to FOX division.. gotta become harder :P

[andybarsblade]

lol, errr no dont mix me up with one of the redline fox regulars im crap lol

[The Moose]

It should be possible to change the port to get round this issue.

I don't know what port your using at the moment, but it's good for me.
I've had months of hassle getting my ISP to open certain ports for LFS, so if you do change it could you please make it one of the standard LFS ports or something in the 27000-27050 range, which is pretty unlikely to be blocked by ISP's as it's used for Counter Strike, which for some reason is still insanely popular:razz:

[CELTIC100]

Not necesarily the case here moose as Tiscali customers are haveing big problems with gaming ports in general.

If GF uses any of the ports that Hosts such as Redline or Conedodgers are set up for then the problem is sorted ;)

[The Moose]

Not necesarily the case here moose as Tiscali customers are haveing big problems with gaming ports in general.

Fair enough m8...that's Tiscali for you though I'm afraid, they are the worst ISP in the country..an utter disgrace of a company.
You can see the problem though...If they change the ports it could sort your problem out and screw it up for other ISP's customers. Traffic shaping is a complete nightmare.

[Juiceman]

If possible, I'd like to give it a go in the FOX.

[keiran]

Dam, missed this thread :o

If your still taking entries... Keiran(FO8) :)

[Gentlefoot]

I'm gonna see if any one else has any problems with ports and my servers before I change anything. Want to see how many people are affected so anyone with problems should let me know.

GF

[andybarsblade]

yhpm :)

[Gentlefoot]

Just wanted to write a very quick note to explain where I am with this and what I've got on my plate right now.

OK, the situation with this league is that all those who have signed up will get to vote on the day/time of the meets. I will set this up either thru the forum or possibly by PMs to you all.

The following things need to be completed before the first 'test' meet.

Day/Time Voting

Rule Book - I have so far got together with some of the lads and taken a load of replays of various on track situations. I need to go through these and pull the stuff out that is of use, convert it into AVI and create a document outlining acceptable and Unaceptable manouvres.

Forum - Create a forum in PHP that will house all the rules, pre/post race dicussions, results, standings, replays etc etc.

Track Guides - I would like to have these prepared ready for the events but this may not be possible. I have made good progress on the first guide though and this should be finished (in some sort of format at least) within the next couple of weeks. This will need to be added to the website too.

Judicial Procedures - these need to be defined and added to the website forum.

Formal Entries - once we have set a day/time for the events people can start entering the first one. The functionality for this will be added to my website too.

Other stuff outside of LFS.

Unfortunately for this week at least I will not be able to work on the LFS stuff very much at all. I quit my job recently and am now doing consultancy work for a seprate legal entity called Gentlefoot Limited. I have incorporated the company but I am now due to send out my first invoice for the last months consultancy and as yet do not have a bank account or any stationary so I need to get this stuff sorted asap.

In addition I have two people waiting for website builds and I really need to start bringing some stock in from China (stuff you boys might like - anything from RC helicopters/cars to windproof lighters) next month so it's all gone a bit mental. This is how this thing works. half the site is LFS resources - "Gentlefoot Lives For Speed" and the other half is my commercial side/products for sale = "Gentlefoot Lives" :) Oh and there has to be a whole separate website for my consultancy type work which is very specialist and something that none of you would be the remotest bit interested in.

So - I guess what I'm trying to say is please be patient. I am determined to see this through but as you can tell, I'm a busy boy right now :)

[Storm_Cloud]

I had this idea when you quit your job that you'd be more like Richard Briers for "The Good Life" - converting your lawn into a vegetable plot, keeping goats and so on.

[Gentlefoot]

I had this idea when you quit your job that you'd be more like Richard Briers for "The Good Life" - converting your lawn into a vegetable plot, keeping goats and so on.

That would be a nice lifestyle - just don't think I can survive like that so its entreprenerial adventures all the way :)

[Gentlefoot]

Am reposting this because everyone keeps sending me PMs asking the same questions. Don't really have time to keep answering these right now :)

Dual FOX and FO8 entries (14 (maybe 16) entries per race in each class);

Overall Championship rank and separate FOX and FO8 ranks;

Championship entries unlimited;

1st come first served basis for event entry with reserve list;

12 Events (1 season) held fortnightly;

Races approx 75mins in length (pit stop will be required at most circuits);

League system and points for each event;

Entrants will be able to drop their two lowest scores so they can miss up to two races per season without losing points;

Independent judicial system for decisions and appeals;

Warnings, penalties and possible bans for bad driving;

Approx Start Date: May/June 07 or when patch X is released.

Schedule of events to follow along with detailed rules, guidance and grievance procedures. One trial event will be held prior to the start of the season to allow rules and procedures to be clarified and set in stone ready for season 1.

[Gentlefoot]

Still accepting entries for this if anyone is up for it. :)

[Demon68]

Hey Gentle,
I'm really interested in driving the F08 but I can only drive at friday night or saturday.
So I wait till you tell us at what day of the week it will be.

[Gentlefoot]

Hey Gentle,
I'm really interested in driving the F08 but I can only drive at friday night or saturday.
So I wait till you tell us at what day of the week it will be.

Best bet is to sign up so you have voting rights on the day/time. I expect the events will take place on either Friday, Saturday or Sunday.

GF

[Adam5k1]

I would like to sign up for the FO8 league, if that is possible?!?!...

Thanks:D

Adam

[Gentlefoot]

I would like to sign up for the FO8 league, if that is possible?!?!...

Thanks:D

Adam

Sure - you want a FOX or a FO8? I'll put you down as FO8 for now :)

[Nick A]

Only just found this thread - sounds fantastic, please sign me up. If there's still a choice I'd go for the FOX, if not I will still enjoy the F08. I would vote for Sunday night when I would think most people would be around, or a week night.

[Gentlefoot]

Only just found this thread - sounds fantastic, please sign me up. If there's still a choice I'd go for the FOX, if not I will still enjoy the F08. I would vote for Sunday night when I would think most people would be around, or a week night.

K mate you're added in the FOX. More likely to be a weekend because I've got entrants from all around the world so it may be easier to accomdate everyone at the weekend. :)

[keithano]

K mate you're added in the FOX. More likely to be a weekend because I've got entrants from all around the world so it may be easier to accomdate everyone at the weekend. :)

Gentlefoot, not meaning to push you, but just asking when will we vote for the combo and also the time? This is because I am going back from Seattle to Hong Kong for summer vacation, so I need to prepare :D

[Gentlefoot]

Gentlefoot, not meaning to push you, but just asking when will we vote for the combo and also the time? This is because I am going back from Seattle to Hong Kong for summer vacation, so I need to prepare :D

:) Well seeing as new entrants seem to be becoming rather sparse and we now have 39 entries I guess I could hold the vote anytime now. I'll get on it this weekend if I can. Got a lot of stuff on my plate right now though. I'll do my best.

GF

[keithano]

:) Well seeing as new entrants seem to be becoming rather sparse and we now have 39 entries I guess I could hold the vote anytime now. I'll get on it this weekend if I can. Got a lot of stuff on my plate right now though. I'll do my best.

GF

Glad to hear that, Gentlefoot. Good luck on your work, we'll meet on the track hopefully if the time is alright for me :thumb:

[Gentlefoot]

OK all - the PMs for the track vote have just been sent. Please reply at your earliest convenience. Let me know if you don't recieve it.

Cheers all.

GF

[andy_bonjon]

I got a pm for Day and Time voting, but not for track!? Was that just a typo?

[zeugnimod]

Same here, probably a typo. :)

[nigelpm]

Count me in too. Don't mind either car.

[Gentlefoot]

I got a pm for Day and Time voting, but not for track!? Was that just a typo?

No typo. I decide the tracks. :)

[Gentlefoot]

Count me in too. Don't mind either car.

No probs - I'll stick you in a FOX

[Nick A]

Remember we are on BST (GMT+1hr) in the UK at the moment, and race times are in GMT. I almost voted an hour early!

[ted209]

Ok, count me in too, love both cars, but put me down for the FOX.

Ed

PS And I vote for Sunday!

[keithano]

Friday whatever time will be good for me

[Gentlefoot]

Ok, count me in too, love both cars, but put me down for the FOX.

Ed

PS And I vote for Sunday!

Done :)

[DonTob]

Although i don't know i have the time to prepare for and to take part in many races, i would like to join your league, Gentlefoot, mate! :) As it seems to need less practice for FOX, i would like to drive this car, but FO8 also would be no problem.
Best day to race for me would probably be sunday afternoon.

[Gentlefoot]

Although i don't know i have the time to prepare for and to take part in many races, i would like to join your league, Gentlefoot, mate! :) As it seems to need less practice for FOX, i would like to drive this car, but FO8 also would be no problem.
Best day to race for me would probably be sunday afternoon.

OK mate - I've added you. Glad to see another quality entrant.

GF

[keithano]

OK mate - I've added you. Glad to see another quality entrant.

GF

:scratchch that makes me feel upset.. i have less and less chance to compete the championship :razz:

btw: glad to see my teammate aboard:thumb:

btw2: when will the championship likely kick off? and I'd like to see the announcement of tracks soon ^^

[Gentlefoot]

:scratchch that makes me feel upset.. i have less and less chance to compete the championship :razz:

btw: glad to see my teammate aboard:thumb:

btw2: when will the championship likely kick off? and I'd like to see the announcement of tracks soon ^^

Well we have to wait for the 32 man version of LFS to be released even if I were to have finished all the rules, procedures, forums etc etc etc.

Maybe this month, more likely June.

Working on the website now.

[Storm_Cloud]

Welcome aboard Tob!

[DonTob]

Thank you, keithano and Storm! Really looking forward to some nice racing with you, even if i will probably be not too competitive :)

[Gentlefoot]

OK all I've been working hard this weekend. I built my friends Dad's website on Saturday morning so that's out of the way. I then turned my attention to my own site. I've now added a whole LFS section. This will be the home of the GFC. I've created a forum and all the sections that I will need. Feel free to go and have a look and add it to your favourites ;) Register and make a post in the forum if you like.

I'm not finished for today either. Just about to tot up the votes for the day/time of events and I'll post that information in my forum shortly. Can't schedule the events yet as we need to wait for patch X to be released.

I might even get one of the track guides done today.

Oh yeah and there's a totally cool clip of me at Brands Hatch on the "About Us" page of my main site - check it out.

Anyway, back to the grindstone :)

GF

[audimasta]

Hey Footy :)

If there still is space, i would like to join in! Is it a free seat in one of the FO8s? If so, i want one.... :D

[Gentlefoot]

Hey Footy :)

If there still is space, i would like to join in! Is it a free seat in one of the FO8s? If so, i want one.... :D

I'll add you to the list mate. Go to gentlefoot.com to see information about the event. Sign up in the forum.

GF

[Gentlefoot]

OK all I've just totalled up the votes for the day and time of the events and we have a clear winner from your 1st choices. I'm pretty glad about that, saves me having to total up 2nd and 3rd choices. :)

Option 11 has 9 votes and is a clear winner by 4 votes. Option 2 was the next closest.

So that means the Gentlefoot Formula Challenge will be held at 20:00 GMT on Sunday nights. That equates to 21:00 BST here in the UK.

I will schedule the events for the weeks between the OWRL events so we don't clash.

I will add this information to the forum which is now up and running. All entrants should go and register so I can contact you easier. Through the LFS PM system is a nightmare because I can only send to 5 recipients at a time. We have well over 40 entries now and climbing.

[Nick A]

Excellent, that was my first choice. :thumb: Looking forward to the start of the season (which I'm guessing might be at the Kyoto Ring?! :scratchch )

[keithano]

OK all I've just totalled up the votes for the day and time of the events and we have a clear winner from your 1st choices. I'm pretty glad about that, saves me having to total up 2nd and 3rd choices. :)

Option 11 has 9 votes and is a clear winner by 4 votes. Option 2 was the next closest.

So that means the Gentlefoot Formula Challenge will be held at 20:00 GMT on Sunday nights. That equates to 21:00 BST here in the UK.

I will schedule the events for the weeks between the OWRL events so we don't clash.

I will add this information to the forum which is now up and running. All entrants should go and register so I can contact you easier. Through the LFS PM system is a nightmare because I can only send to 5 recipients at a time. We have well over 40 entries now and climbing.

How many rounds are there in total? I think I can only make my progress through June 16th as I am heading back to Hong Kong for my summer vacation from Seattle. The time will be ideal for me when I am in Seattle, but 04:00 in Hong Kong is likely to be a nightmare. Anyway, let's see ^^

[Gentlefoot]

How many rounds are there in total? I think I can only make my progress through June 16th as I am heading back to Hong Kong for my summer vacation from Seattle. The time will be ideal for me when I am in Seattle, but 04:00 in Hong Kong is likely to be a nightmare. Anyway, let's see ^^

Please go the the forum to check for info like that please mate. http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/index.php

[keithano]

Please go the the forum to check for info like that please mate. http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/index.php

Sorry my bad^^ got that, tks

[Gentlefoot]

Sorry my bad^^ got that, tks


No worries mate its just when there are 40 of you all asking me questions it's a bit of a problem :)

[Gentlefoot]

Had some good racing on FE Gold tonight with the dual class formula. Seems to work well although some FO8 drivers need to remember that they approach FOXs so fast that the FOXs don't see them coming.

In the GFC the onus will be on the driver behind to take responsibility and pass cleanly, regardless of what cars are involved.

[BigDave2967]

I'm looking forward to this championship :), should be a lot of fun. Only thing I'm a tad worried about, is the lag on sundays evenings. The evenings I get dial up speed. I use virgin.net and I hear from ATC fellows that there will be an upgrade in June, so hopefully, I won't be a bother when the league gets underway :).

[Gentlefoot]

I'm looking forward to this championship :), should be a lot of fun. Only thing I'm a tad worried about, is the lag on sundays evenings. The evenings I get dial up speed. I use virgin.net and I hear from ATC fellows that there will be an upgrade in June, so hopefully, I won't be a bother when the league gets underway :).


Hope you get it sorted mate. There will be some rules regarding lag. i.e. if you are too laggy you won't be able to compete. :( So make sure you get it sorted dude cos I want you on the grid.

[CELTIC100]

Good racing last night guys FE Gold :D

GF has a point with the speed of the faster FO8's as us Fox drivers had under a 2 sec warning of the BLUE FLAG pop up at some parts of the track especially if the Fox was caught entering a slow corner due to the FO8 having better brakes and a faster corner speed.

That race I started from 3rd on the grid in the fox was a check your pants time going into turn 1 got round though and kept my 3rd position thanks guys just shows that your a good bunch and enjoyed the races thanks ;)

[Gentlefoot]

Could I ask, please please please, can all GFC entrants go and register on the forum here http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/profile.php?mode=register&sid=a53940fba7e4a7588179523dff773f75

If you don't you will not recieve important information about the Championship as I am not sending any more LFS Forum PMs to only 5 people at a time and having to wait 60 seconds between posts. :)

There are still a few of you not registered.

Thanks for your cooperation :)

[Gentlefoot]

Points system now added to forum. The system rewards attendance and consistency.

[Gentlefoot]

I have now set a date for the pre-season "dry run" event. See http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18

[CELTIC100]

GF Why not have some Dry runs over the next couple of Sundays at the set time on diff tracks, this would iron out any problems for when the league starts proper and would also be fun - although myself needs to change ISP first as I still cannot get access to your server until after 11pm or later.

[Nick A]

I'd be up for that too, especially as I might not be able to make the test event.

[Gentlefoot]

Well the sever is always open for public racing. Difficulty is holding a long race without having formal entries - hence doing like this so that people have a couple of weeks to sign up.

But I'll surely be on FE Club for the next couple of weeks developing a set and practicing. I'm sure there'll be a few of us.

But yeah - I may do some short notice unofficial practice runs of say 30 laps or whatever with free entry.

[Nick A]

Which server will you be FE Clubbing on?

[Storm_Cloud]

Which one is Club? Green? Gold? How many laps?

[Gentlefoot]

Which server will you be FE Clubbing on?

The GentlefootFormulaRacing server will be set to FE Club from tonight.

[Gentlefoot]

Which one is Club? Green? Gold? How many laps?

I will calculate laps for the event tonight. 75 mins approximately.

[FL!P]

Club is its name, Storm. It's FE1, the shortest tarmac layout (1 mi).

[Gentlefoot]

Club is its name, Storm. It's FE1, the shortest tarmac layout (1 mi).

WR in FO8 is about 32 seconds so I have based my calculation for laps on that. This results in a 136 lap race. :)

This will mean lots of passing of back markers for the front runners so plenty of practice which is just what's needed in preparation for Season 1.

[Storm_Cloud]

Club is its name, Storm. It's FE1, the shortest tarmac layout (1 mi).

Oh, okay - for some reason I thought all the FE tracks were named after colours.

[BigDave2967]

WR in FO8 is about 32 seconds so I have based my calculation for laps on that. This results in a 136 lap race. :)

This will mean lots of passing of back markers for the front runners so plenty of practice which is just what's needed in preparation for Season 1.

That'd be awesome to practice, is this for the 27th may in particular?

[Gentlefoot]

That'd be awesome to practice, is this for the 27th may in particular?


Yes - 27th May is FE Club. I will not always choose this type of circuit. There will be a mixture of tight and open tracks.

[Gentlefoot]

Where are all the FOX entries?

Over 40 entrants in the championship but hardly anyone has signed up for the event.

I won't be able to run the event unless there are more entries unfortunately.

[keithano]

Where are all the FOX entries?

Over 40 entrants in the championship but hardly anyone has signed up for the event.

I won't be able to run the event unless there are more entries unfortunately.

I'd like to participate, but sadly I have to race the 24h race with my team from 26th of May.

I will be up for another dry event or so ^^

[andybarsblade]

Where are all the FOX entries?

Over 40 entrants in the championship but hardly anyone has signed up for the event.

I won't be able to run the event unless there are more entries unfortunately.

i have :)

[Gentlefoot]

i have :)

I only appear to have your championship entry so far mate. No entry for the event on the 27th recieved as yet. Are you competing?

There is an entry for each individual event because there are more championship entries than grid slots. The idea is that people will not make all events but we still want full grids.

First come first served basis for each event with a reserve list.

[WildRacerUK]

Unfortunately I won't be able to make the first event has I am away on a weekend break with the missus. It's a shame really was looking forward to the first race roll on the 2nd one.

[Gentlefoot]

Unfortunately I won't be able to make the first event has I am away on a weekend break with the missus. It's a shame really was looking forward to the first race roll on the 2nd one.

Shame mate. You won't have to wait too long for the next event. :)

[Gentlefoot]

I've now created a track guide for the first event in this league. See http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/trackguide2.html

There are quite a few mistakes at the moment in terms of fonts and stuff and I will update it tonight but it should be of help while you practice for the 27th.

GF

[Gentlefoot]

This event is now called the Gentlefoot Formula Challenge (GFC)

There is a test race being held this Sunday at 20:00 GMT. There are currently 26 entries however, I do not believe everyone wil turn up so if you are interested but put off by the entry list don't be. I'm fairly confident that drivers signing up at this late stage could still get to race on Sunday.

GF

[BigDave2967]

Just to double check so I'm ready. Which patch are we using?

[BigDave2967]

Ohh my backside, so numb! *sob*

Great race guys, hope you didnt mind me ranting in the end, there were somethings that I didn't like.

[Gentlefoot]

Great race wasn't it. Can't wait for the start of the season now with 32 car grids! Gonna be awesome.

Don't worry about the rant mate. So long as you don't direct insults at anyone that's fine. btw - I watched most of your race and you did a fine job mate.

Shame we had some lag. When we had that lag incident at the end of the start finish straight I managed to take the best top speed FOX time. Managed 223kph whereas all the other FOXs only managed 213kph lol. That's why I ended up running into the back of you mate. Had an extra 10kph and couldn't shed it quick enough :)

Check out the race results http://gentlefoot.com/LFS/GFCRace0_results.html#top lol

GF

[Gentlefoot]

Nice video of this event available here:

http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/GFC.html

[Gentlefoot]

There's now only 1 guaranteed slot left for race 1. I will accept up to 10 reserves as there are usually several no shows. 7 failed to turn up last time from an entry list of 26. This grid will have 32 cars on it so I expect at least as many no shows as at FE Club.