Final Test - Patch W

[Scawen]

Hello Test Patch Forum Readers! :)

The changes from V to V9 are good enough, important enough and well tested enough that we want to put them in our full version, so we've decided to put up a compatible patch W and full version W.

The idea is that everyone can use this new version which has better sounds and smoother graphics than version V, while we get on with the multiplayer-incompatible patch which we hope to finish in just a few weeks. That patch will allow more racers online (probably 24) and more spectators, and various other planned updates for it as well (though no physics changes in that first one).

Before releasing today's patch W in full public view, and while we are getting the auto updater and the full version ready, it seems like a good idea to let you have it here first and that will be one final test before it goes live.

Changes from V to W :

Sound :

Included new default car sounds created by DaveWS
Engine sounds automatically switch to new defaults
No need to type edit_eng before using sound editor
Distortion is constant regardless of volume setting
New PACK button in sound editor to load a sound pack
TV camera and SHIFT+U avoid skid / wind volume boost
SKid and wind volumes are 33% louder for all settings

2D Display :

Improved small map car pointers
Improved needles and markers on clocks
Slightly more efficient 2d graphics drawing
Driver names appeared too late when using wide FOV
User LOD defaults to 0.8 (higher than old versions)
Reduced width of lag meter (see more with ctrl+shift)
Cars one lap behind are now shown in grey on small map
FIX : Wide screen autocross object selection buttons
FIX : Invisible warning when wrong way reversing

Graphics :

Higher resolution image in mirrors
Higher level of detail available in main view
LOD is no longer reduced with fov over 90 degrees
Removed unecessary LOD checks on most scenery
Removed option "Wider screen increases LOD"
Removed option "All scenery at maximum LOD"

Interface :

Selected setup is displayed in F12 menu
Another small reduction in pit-out glitch
ESC now closes live suspension view and sound editor
HOME key now works correctly in single player replays
ESC in game setup screen now exits to entry screen
SHIFT+O in main entry screen now goes to options
CTRL+S saves a screen shot to the shots folder
Setups can be sorted by name as well as date
Any resolution as wide as 3:1 is considered 3 screen
FIX : Default sound selected when deleting a colour
FIX : Mouse cursor is now visible on window border
FIX : Small renaming bug when saving replays

Multiplayer :

Some improvements to the ? info system in List of Games
LFS S1 / S2 hosts can now store up to 400 banned users
Admins can now use in-game : /laps /qual /hours /wind
New InSim packets (pit - penalty - take over - flags)
Join specific game - colours are removed from name
New option /adminslots=X reserves slots for admins
FIX : MsgOutPack (MSO) now shows long user messages
FIX : Wrong delay "setup changes" after tyre change

Views :

View options now visible before you go on track
Separate FOV stored for each car's custom view
Separate steer look option for each custom view
Improved options for follow view (chase cam)
View screen rearranged to make more sense

Misc :

New language included : Slovenian / Slovenski
Game setup screen stats : join - pit - spectate
Unlocks now increased every Friday instead of monthly
Master port is now selectable in cfg.txt (29339 or 8080)
Set log file name /log=name.xxx or /log to stop logging
FIX : Unlocking issue with AMD Athlon 64
FIX : Unlocking issue with Cedega

INSTALLATION :

1) Move or save the patch into your main LFS folder
2) Double click the patch to extract it to that folder
3) When you see "Confirm File Replace" select "Yes to All"
4) Now you can start LFS in the normal way

DOWNLOAD :

TEST PATCH W (2 MB) :
[ You can get it using the autoupdater - just click on List of Games in LFS - but if you have any problems here's the link ]
www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_PATCH_V_TO_W.exe

DEDICATED HOST W (1 MB - for hosting only) :
www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_S2_DEDI_W.zip

[mrfell]

Thanks Very Much!!

[Smurfen]

Awsome! Scavier ftw!:razz:

[axus]

Thanks! :thumb:

[N I K I]

:thumb:

[faster111]

Thanks dev.

[FOGlegsy]

:thumb:

[hrtburnout]

Awesome! Thanks for all the hard work! :)

[Vykos69]

goodie!

[joen]

while we get on with the multiplayer-incompatible patch which we hope to finish in just a few weeks.

:nod::thumb::D

These last few patches have made LFS a lot smoother for me. Haven't had any problems. I'm glad we're getting to an official patch W already as i think it has great improvements which will give new users an even better first impression. Thanks Scawen :)

You're probably not going to answer this, but I just have to ask, will there be any updates from Eric in the next incompatible patch? :shy:

[XRRoy]

Looking forward to the next few weeks. Thanks Scawen :D

[Anathema]

:banana::thumb:

[scoobyrbac]

I got a virus from it.....and i go to download it and it says could not download it is already opened or something? so I cant download the user side i downloaded the server side easy but i cant download player side???

[AndroidXP]

Thanks Scawen! :thumbsup:

So, when will you release patch X? Patch W is already half an hour old and I'm getting bored again... ^_^ j/k

[joen]

I got a virus from it.....and i go to download it and it says could not download it is already opened or something? so I cant download the user side i downloaded the server side easy but i cant download player side???

What do you mean with a user and user side?

And it doesn't have any virus in it!

[DC2]

Thanks Scawen =D :thumb:

[scoobyrbac]

What do you mean with a user and user side?

And it doesn't have any virus in it!


mine did lemme restart my compter and try to redownload it and i will take a picture of it

[Markz]

Mirror?

[maddmaff]

i just installed patch w and i gtting error message when trying to start game"could no load font" had to remove and reinstall original copy to get it working again.. any ideas on what the prob is cause i want to try the new patch as everyone says its cool so well done for the work and i hope you can help,,cheers and see you on track

[joen]

mine did

The file you download is the same file everybody downloads, so everybody should have gotten a virus. And I didn't.

[scoobyrbac]

Here is the picture

[Martin.S]

First - Great work Scavier!! You guys really rock :thumb:

The idea is that everyone can use this new version which has better sounds and smoother graphics than version V, while we get on with the multiplayer-incompatible patch which we hope to finish in just a few weeks. That patch will allow more racers online (probably 24) and more spectators, and various other planned updates for it as well (though no physics changes in that first one).

Please excuse me for asking silly (?) questions, but what do you mean by 24 racers and more spectators?
Does it mean that I can spectate a race with full grid, with 24 drivers in race? (or whatever that server admits)

[anik360]

Just waiting for the final release Scawen ol man Good job on getting the updates FASTER THAN SPEED OF LIGHT:D:D any ways im gonna test it now :)

[joen]

Here is the picture
Where does it say LFS gave you that? You just have a trojan which get's active once you download something or whatever. I haven't gotten a virus in over 5 years, and an LFS patch is the last thing I expect getting a virus from. Clean up your system.

http://www.authentium.com/threatmatrix/VirusDefList.aspx

[diablo21]

Looks good

[maddmaff]

File infected with "W32/Downloader2.TZ" virus and was successfully deletedDocuments and Settings\paulmaff\My Documents\lfspeed\LFS_S2_ALPHA_V.zip
ithink gamers hell is the cause of the virys because i just downloaded a full copy of version to replace the corrupt one i thought i got with the patch..and as you can see it is infected with virus,,,maybe some one should tell them..i will download from elsewhere and see what happens

[LFSn00b]

I want Patch U engine sounds back :(

[joen]

File infected with "W32/Downloader2.TZ" virus and was successfully deletedDocuments and Settings\paulmaff\My Documents\lfspeed\LFS_S2_ALPHA_V.zip
ithink gamers hell is the cause of the virys because i just downloaded a full copy of version to replace the corrupt one i thought i got with the patch..and as you can see it is infected with virus,,,maybe some one should tell them..i will download from elsewhere and see what happens

But aren't we talking about the patch posted above, which is hosted on liveforspeed.net?

@Niko: are you serious? :really::x

[LFSn00b]

@Niko: are you serious? :really::xYes i am, i loved the XRT and GTR sounds in patch U.

[anik360]

Thats wierd Liveforspeed.net shouldn't have viruses. and if so why devs didn't bother to clean it!!!:really::really:

[maddmaff]

yes but i downloaded the patch from gamers heel mirror and i got that virus at the same time i think..just trying to clarify whats going on..as anyone got a clue about my other problem with patch or do we think it was cuased by virus???

[joen]

yes but i downloaded the patch from gamers heel mirror and i got that virus at the same time i think..just trying to clarify whats going on..as anyone got a clue about my other problem with patch or do we think it was cuased by virus???

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but the patch hasn't even been posted on the LFS homepage, and I don't see a download for patch W on gamershell.
Maybe you're talking about the patch V download?

Anyway, I'll download the patch V from gamershell to see if they're infected. I can't imagine though.

edit: skip that, they have tons of different servers ofcourse, which one did you download from?

[axus]

Yes i am, i loved the XRT and GTR sounds in patch U.

Well, tough. You're just not gonna get them because the sound engine has made a step forward. There is no way that for one person (most people are happy with the changes), Scawen will reverse the patch. Suck it up. Life can be a bitch (and it gets much worse than getting an LFS sound patch that's made a step backwards in your eyes), the sooner you learn that, the better. It's not like LFS will sound like this forever anyway.

[tristancliffe]

Live For Speed, and any of it's patches, do not have viruses in them. I've downloaded pretty much everything from the devs, and never had a problem. Gamershell (Gamers Heel) doesn't give people viruses either - they are too well known to allow trojans in their downloads.

I suspect you've been looking at monkey porn again, and got a virus from that!

[ORION]

Yes i am, i loved the XRT and GTR sounds in patch U.

Maybe you like those more?
http://www.zt-racing.com/download/uploadscript/oritestsounds.zip

For me, they sound a lot more like a car and less like a tuba :razz: :D

[maddmaff]

lol i dont think so but i may have picked somthing up,,just having a cleanout ..evrything i now download says infected,,,jeeeze people dont let your ten year old kids on the pc when your not there...hope i can sort it cause i have no lfs at the moment,,,dammit all to hell

[LFSn00b]

Does CSR work in Patch W?

[The Moose]

Thanks Scawen:thumbsup:

(http://www.lfsforum.net/member.php?u=43)

[Jakg]

Thats wierd Liveforspeed.net shouldn't have viruses. and if so why devs didn't bother to clean it!!!:really::really:it DOESN'T have a virus, lets just make that clear - a mirror seems to bundle a file that looks to be one, the official mirror is safe

[anik360]

it DOESN'T have a virus, lets just make that clear - a mirror seems to bundle a file that looks to be one, the official mirror is safe

ooo lol

Edit: didn't find A virus in mines and yea i do have kaspersky :p

[Kencan]

Maybe you like those more?
http://www.zt-racing.com/download/uploadscript/oritestsounds.zip

For me, they sound a lot more like a car and less like a tuba :razz: :D


Hey Hey now... let's not be dissing the sound of a tuba!:x

[anik360]

Rofl Tubaa

[Jakg]

Gamers Hell dont HAVE Patch W - what are you on about?

[anik360]

who me?

[JasonJ]

Does CSR work in Patch W?
Yes - works fine here :-)

[on topic]
Didn't you read the fine print ? - LFS is a virus. :tired:
I just did 13.5 hours 136 laps FE4 FZ5
[/on topic]


Dunno where/how I lost 15fps from v8-v9, anyone see where they went to? :shrug:
I even went LOD to 0.5, still not lost em. damn :( Wrong thread :x


Testing W now.....

edit:

W patch is no better unfortunately. I get 30-60fps LOD 0.4 on W, when I used to get 45-60fps LOD 0.85 on V8. All my other settings are the same. AA=2
Dynamic LOD reduction 1.0
Dust 1.0
Mirrors 0.2
Shadow : low res
Wheels/Trees/Flags/Rubber : Main

Just a huge 15 FPS drop (33% loss). Seems to be massivley affected by Layouts and multiplayer. I understand My GPU is sorta oldish - but I have a huge drop here (when V8 was running nicely) and I must now run LFS at 0.2 LOD and that looks quite bad. Quite a few in Multiplayer players report the same large drops is FPS but most wont post here.

[anik360]

thats strange i got a 7 fps boost from 96 to 103

W is a lil better (dunno if more beta is gonna come any wayz)

[XCNuse]

yay autoupdate is working :D

[Blackout]

Thats wierd Liveforspeed.net shouldn't have viruses. and if so why devs didn't bother to clean it!!!:really::really:

He said he just had downloaded the full install from another place, and it was more likely to reason for the virus.

[Drift King CZ]

Hi, i know the new patch will be great, but I unfortunately cannot download it :( .. it says it can't launch autoupdater..

[anik360]

well devs shoudda thought which mirror to host on Filefront is better

[Nine]

same here, auto updater is not working :scratchch

[Jakg]

They hosted it on their own site!

[joen]

well devs shoudda thought which mirror to host on Filefront is better

Until now noone has been able to establish that an LFS patch downloaded from any official mirror has a virus so there isn't anything wrong with the devs' choices.

And once again, patch W is only hosted on liveforspeed.net.......

this is how FUD starts and spreads.

//edit: oh, and filefront IS an LFS mirror already!

[nihil]

I got a virus from it.....and i go to download it and it says could not download it is already opened or something?

I have the same problem - my virus software recognises the file as a threat (same file name W32/downloader...) and immediately deletes the downloaded package. I'm using the autodownloader.

[axus]

well devs shoudda thought which mirror to host on Filefront is better

Oh, enough already. Chances are it was something else. The devs have a very strict policy regarding mirrors, I recall contacting Victor about an SA mirror and he said that he wouldn't put it on the main site because it required you to register. Filefront is not better either. The general idea is to have as many mirrors as possible, if someone offers a good mirror, the devs would obviously accept the offer and link it on the main site. :doh:

[Markz]

In that case...

"Official" Mirror?

lol.

[GP4Flo]

Just use the auto updater, you will see all available mirrors there.

[nihil]

Oh, enough already. Chances are it was something else. The devs have a very strict policy regarding mirrors, I recall contacting Victor about an SA mirror and he said that he wouldn't put it on the main site because it required you to register. Filefront is not better either. The general idea is to have as many mirrors as possible, if someone offers a good mirror, the devs would obviously accept the offer and link it on the main site. :doh:

Please don't give me the 'enough already' shite...

I'm not saying that there IS a virus, but my system is clean and well maintained. My software is recognising the file as a threat. That is all. The autoupdater is not working for me.

[nutty boy]

Does this mean we'll be getting a new patch soon?

[Markz]

Just use the auto updater, you will see all available mirrors there.

Ahh yes, thanks lol.

Never really understood the functions of the Auto Updater...

[joen]

Ahh yes, thanks lol.
Never really understood the functions of the Auto Updater...

convenience and making sure people who don't frequent the frontpage and/or forum don't come complaining how they can't find any players online anymore and that LFS is dead. Which ofcourse would be caused by them not updating to the latest patch.

[axus]

Please don't give me the 'enough already' shite...

I'm not saying that there IS a virus, but my system is clean and well maintained. My software is recognising the file as a threat. That is all. The autoupdater is not working for me.

My post wasn't directed at yours - merely at someone else's poorly typed, presumptuous post.

[Brikkah]

Thanx for the patch, i like the new sounds!

But when i have installed the patch the setting 'window while connecting'
automatically is set to "yes", but i had it set to 'no'
Also Patch V8 set it to "yes".
I don't know if it's a bug or a feature, but i thought i mention it here :)

Brikkah

[maddmaff]

i never said lfs or any mirrirs had a virus,,i said maybe ok..it turns out my antivirus dosnt recognise so is repoting as w32/downloader t2 trojan..wich by the way dosnt seem to exist,,,so i hope this sorts things out,,my apolagies for any offence.. non was meant,,i was just trying to sort myself out and ask for help..which is what i thought the forum was all about...once again sorry for ienience and thanks for all you out there who checked things out,,, cheers and see you on track

[Markz]

lol yes, I just never saw it in use. Nvm it now, I started LFS up and went to Multiplayer and it popped up hehe.

It never worked when the other Test Patches were released... I take it they did not implement the system until Test Patch W?

[nihil]

My post wasn't directed at yours - merely at someone else's poorly typed, presumptuous post.

OK, but there is a problem somewhere. Please do not dismiss it just because the autoupdater is working for you. I'm not an idiot, but without an alternative to the autoupdater the patch is not retrievable for me.

@madmaff: which software are you using?

[GruntOfAction]

Awesome thanks dude!

Cant wait for patch X lol :P

[maddmaff]

this damed new pc gaurd from virgen media
seems to be ok,,just turned it off for dowloading lfs

[Jakg]

Thanx for the patch, i like the new sounds!

But when i have installed the patch the setting 'window while connecting'
automatically is set to "yes", but i had it set to 'no'
Also Patch V8 set it to "yes".
I don't know if it's a bug or a feature, but i thought i mention it here :)

Brikkahits because some firewalls detect its a newer exe, and that it might be malicious, so it might pop up and say something when it tries to connect to the net, so LFS leaves full screen mode just in case

Feature

[axus]

OK, but there is a problem somewhere. Please do not dismiss it just because the autoupdater is working for you. I'm not an idiot, but without an alternative to the autoupdater the patch is not retrievable for me.

@madmaff: which software are you using?

There's the direct link in Scawen's first post in this thread.

[Jakg]

Correction, there was a link in the first post - now removed

[mobiholik]

everything works fine here ! :thumb::thumb:
good Patch

[KingOfIce]

Works fine for me !
Thanksss !!!!! :thumb:

[nihil]

this damed new pc gaurd from virgen media
seems to be ok,,just turned it off for dowloading lfs

Ah... I have netguard, which I think is the same as pc guard - the problem must be with their database. See, information flows once the fanboys shut up.

[Blackout]

Ah... I have netguard, which I think is the same as pc guard - the problem must be with their database. See, information flows once the fanboys shut up.

But was there a fault in LFS? No.

[nihil]

But was there a fault in LFS? No.

If you have netguard or PC guard, then for some reason the LFS patch is recognised as a W32 worm. Its up to the devs to sort out why that is, but they'll have to contact the company involved.

[NeoArnold]

Thanks for the new version, i was waiting so much !!! and dedicate too, great work boys !!! lets test it...


:thumb:

[Blackout]

Well, the patch was released not so long time ago, how could you expect that all the small and random AV programs could know it?

[kiss me]

is this an official release or not? i mean , cuz it aint on the startpage of lfs

[joen]

is this an official release or not? i mean , cuz it aint on the startpage of lfs
Yes it's an official release: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=21880
The frontpage will be updated later I assume.

[imthebestracerthereis]

holy cow, you guys ARE ON FIRE!! good work!

[nesrulz]

Thanks! :thumb:

[Vykos69]

didnt Bush wanted to start a "internet users license"? That you have to get b4 using the internetz? *scnr* :D

[scoobyrbac]

I have never gotten anything such as a virus from LFS in about 2 years...I wouldnt expect to get one.....I guess i will search for another place to download patch W if there is any

[Jakg]

grrrr - the official mirror is PERFECTLY safe, there is NO virus in LFS, it was an anti-virus mistake

[nihil]

Well, the patch was released not so long time ago, how could you expect that all the small and random AV programs could know it?

That's not really how virus scanners work... There is something in the code of the downloaded patch that matches a virus signature in net/pcguards database. That is all.

Scoobyrbac - just turn your virus scanner off and allow the autoupdater to get on with it. Its a pain in the arse, but its not a virus.

[fofillo]

hi, i have a problem, i donwloaded the W patch, i installed but when i open LFS, says me that ocurrs an error un the car, "Can´t open S_Clock" and no image apears in mi dashboard... WTF? what is wrong?

can anyone send me a Pm to fix this problem? thanks a lot!!!

[diablo21]

It sometimes freezes for like 1/2 second/s. Only happens with patch W :shrug:

[Hockquan]

Is anyone else amazed by how different Patch W feels to V?

I've not bothered with any of the V test patches because I've not played LFS in earnest for a while so this is my first experience of the sound/graphics changes. First off, all the cars I've driven so far sound good (ok, that totals the XFG and the UF1, but meh), will have to check out the others soon. The biggest change, however, appears to be the graphics. Not the actual appearance there of but...something...else.

I can't quite put my finger on it but everything feels very different graphically. At first I couldn't drive at all and didn't like it one bit. Now I've gotten used to the smoothness LFS genuinely feels a lot more exciting. If only I could explain why...

Anyways, good work guys. Very pleased so far. Can't wait for the next patch!

:thumb:

[BiqJunior]

Theres is only 1 problem with lfs that i dont like.
I play lfs with the outside camera and that camera dont have mirrors and that´s bad for a drifter like me.

I dont now if this is the place to post this, if not sorry for that.

Keep the good work and i hope you guys can do something about this "problem" :thumb:

[Quigon81]

Patch installed and fully operative :P
Had no problem, evrithing's right...
God job dev!

[Knight_Atack]

X

[The General Lee]

"Could not open the restarted program"

That happens when I click ANY mirror. :schwitz:

[anbiddulph]

"Could not open the restarted program"

That happens when I click ANY mirror. :schwitz:
are you running V9? if so try using V

[geeman1]

If autoupdater doesn't work for you : http://www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs...TCH_V_TO_W.exe (http://www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_PATCH_V_TO_W.exe)
.

[jayhawk]

I think I have found a problem. I was on Fern Bay Gold in a UF1, race started, everything is fine, then I got the "Warning traffic approching" graphic...yet I was not a lap behind, and no one within 10 seconds was behind me. It lasted for about one lap, then left. During that time, I never crashed, spun or left the track; just a normal lap.

[felplacerad]

jayhawk, that is not related to patch W. I believe Becky can explain it in further detail. :shy:

[Boris Lozac]

I think I have found a problem. I was on Fern Bay Gold in a UF1, race started, everything is fine, then I got the "Warning traffic approching" graphic...yet I was not a lap behind, and no one within 10 seconds was behind me. It lasted for about one lap, then left. During that time, I never crashed, spun or left the track; just a normal lap.

Well, you probably went on some City driving, or something server. Even i know that :)

[anik360]

the auto update option works fine, but boris is right dont go in city driving or [TC] servers to be exact go to some server with less pings or something :)

EDIT: also in CLC servers too :p

[Drift King CZ]

BTW: You can also download it here! http://www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_PATCH_V_TO_W.exe
(maybe somebody sent it here but i didnt read..)

[mhpcande]

good!!! i like new patch W!!

[Xarpas]

excellent news!!!!
Downloaded an running well here ;)


tks!!!

[Zachary Zoomy]

big problems. I just got an unecxpected packet size error. i have to try several times to log on to a server. and when I get on a server major lag in the begining and then it eases of.

[yamakawa]

Thank you Scawen!
I like new patch. :thumb:

[Fabri91]

Its faboulous, it's working fine on my pc, if i discover bugs or errors i'll say it here!

[lak]

VERY SLOW DOWNLOAD

Lak:(

[Yaamboo]

I found a strange "feature"; when you exit the multiplayer server list by clicking on "back", instead of straightly teleporting to the "show server list/new server/etc"-menu, there is a 1 frame flash of an empty screen (i.e. only the background visible and no graphics over it). Is this related to the "Closing 1 connect" screen that sometimes pops up at the same point? I remember the older versions just went back to the multiplayer menu without flashing the background for a frame.

Hope you understand what I mean ;)

[Venus]

I had the traffic approaching sign too. It was a 3 player race on SO Town with UF1000. I just spun. The others were right behind; I waited till they passed; had problem starting.. so was 2-3 seconds before getting away. There was no one else behind me; I took off; then the traffic graphic popped up. It only lasted a few seconds. It shouldn't have come up (or should've come up when I spun). Either way; its not operating correctly. Just so you know. :)

Ven

[Venus]

Installed through auto update; no problems. Everything worked fine, except for the above lil problem. :)

Thanks for all ur hard work Scawen. Much appreciated. :)

V

[Scawen]

The "Traffic Approaching" message is not a LFS bug - this message is not produced by LFS. It's the STCC InSim software sending a message to you, probably it is a bug in that. Anyway, it would be best to make a note of it in the STCC sub forum in the leagues section.

[MoonForce]

hi since patch w, lfs starts crashing while trying to initializing mainscreen...

AppName: lfs.exe AppVer: 0.0.0.0 ModName: dsound.dll
ModVer: 5.3.2600.2180 Offset: 0000e3fe

but maybe its a problem couzed by myself, dunno but reboot doesnt helped...

edit: reinstalled audio drivers, now crashing with that message,

AppName: lfs.exe AppVer: 0.0.0.0 ModName: d3d8.dll
ModVer: 5.3.2600.2180 Offset: 00048bb2

[Tube]

TEST PATCH W (2 MB) :
[ EDIT : download link removed - you can get it using the autoupdater - just click on List of Games in LFS ]


can you send me the corresponding link, please? Auto-Update failed and now I'm stuck with the server instead of the client :/

[joen]

can you send me the corresponding link, please? Auto-Update failed and now I'm stuck with the server instead of the client :/

http://www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_PATCH_V_TO_W.exe

[indie]

First of all thanks for the new patch i think that it really means progress. Although i feel i must say something about those sounds, engine sounds.
I must say that some of them sounds really nice, some others all really crap, its only the truth. For instance the F1 car, that can only be a bad taste joke, the car simply sounds crippy, starts to sturtter at high speed, i would like to see that explained. All turbo's, dont have turbo?!?! In FXO/RB4/XRT you can't hear the turbo's, thats non sense to say the least.
The FZ5 sounds worst then my 1300w vacuum cleaner, seriously. The FOX well, needle is showing redline but it sounds like we're still half way through the revs, no pitch, no high pitch on formulas in a general way.
Strangely its not all bad, some cars sounds great, not much of them but some. I don't understand how can ppl praise so much for this sounds when the package has serious flaws. Also strange is how can some sounds fit so good and others so bad, almost horrible. Its also like some of the cars have been neglected.
I respect both devs and Dave's work around this subject, the sounds issue is for a long time now being a major reason of discontentment within the community, but come on!!! Did you guys heared all the sounds some times before releasing them??
I understand that i might not colect many supporters on this, some might think that i'm a flammer or something, but thats not my intentions. I just want a better and better LFS for all of us, my statement was more then overthough and hopefully will be considered.

Regards
Cya on track

[joen]

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Please consider that the sound system has been completely reworked starting with patch V, and more improvements will come.
That's why Scawen said Dave did so well within the limitations of the current sound engine.
I can't really see what's to complain about the new sounds. No they're not perfect yet, but for a long time the sounds did not get any improvements, and now they are getting attention. Noone ever said these are the final sounds, after all LFS is a work in progress. Compared to the previous default sounds I think they're a HUGE step forward. The sounds Dave and others have managed to get out of the current engine have made me a firm believer in the new sound system. Imagine what will be possible when Scawen works on the engine some more. IMO the engine sounds in LFS have never been this good, so that makes me confident about this feature.

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

Interesting.

I can hear the turbochargers aplenty on the TBO class, so I wonder why you can't... You can always turn it up on your own version...

[MoonForce]

Please consider that the sound system has been completely reworked starting with patch V, and more improvements will come.
That's why Scawen said Dave did so well within the limitations of the current sound engine.
I can't really see what's to complain about the new sounds. No they're not perfect yet, but for a long time the sounds did not get any improvements, and now they are getting attention. Noone ever said these are the final sounds, after all LFS is a work in progress. Compared to the previous default sounds I think they're a HUGE step forward. The sounds Dave and others have managed to get out of the current engine have made me a firm believer in the new sound system. Imagine what will be possible when Scawen works on the engine some more. IMO the engine sounds in LFS have never been this good, so that makes me confident about this feature.


new LX6 sound (davews) sounds awesome like hell :) :thumb: :nod:

[Naix]

Thanks for this piece of art Scawen:thumb:

It works fine for me (solo or online). :nod:

[indie]

@ Joen
Mate understand something, i play LFS for almost 3 years now, i love the sim and the dev team and know all the bla bla you talked about. I also consider that the new engine sound its a real upgrade to previous system.
But you speech its on the defense, and i'm not attacking, so you can drop your guards, just listen well to the cars i have refered and them tell your opinion again.

Problably since the devs option went to use sounds moded by the community, they could/should gather some more packs and find the best sound for each car on their opinion and make a small upgrade.

[imthebestracerthereis]

anyone else having trouble connecting to the master server? I try to look for host and it freezes and says Connecting To Master Server

[joen]

@ Joen
Mate understand something, i play LFS for almost 3 years now, i love the sim and the dev team and know all the bla bla you talked about. I also consider that the new engine sound its a real upgrade to previous system.
But you speech its on the defense, and i'm not attacking, so you can drop your guards, just listen well to the cars i have refered and them tell your opinion again.


:shrug: I am not saying you're attacking at all, and I don't have any guards to drop. I think you're just easily offended. I'm just stating that sometimes people tend to think anything new is going to be the final version. Did you follow the thread on the patch V sounds? countless remarks on vacuum cleaners. Read that and you'll know what I mean.

If you know so much about LFS and know all the blabla, maybe you could have expected that sort of response? And maybe you could have provided your feedback on Dave's sound when they were first introduced? Just asking if people have even listened to the sounds before including them is just a pointless remark, as you know what the answer to your own question is.


Problably since the devs option went to use sounds moded by the community, they could/should gather some more packs and find the best sound for each car on their opinion and make a small upgrade.
I think it's better to stick to Dave's sounds. Otherwise we'll maybe end up with 10 different "official" pack creators. Besides Dave has something to build on now.

And actually there should be no problem with the sounds for you, as we have a sound editor now, so you can make them exactly the way you think they should be.

[dizzlez]

Hi the Patch is great but there is one thing i noticed when playing online when driving and in ym rear view mirir a car quite far back well not far viewable to see there driver, the cars bumper comes all solid with no gaps and so the whole body of the car becomes like an oval, is it just me?

I will try get a pic so you understand what i mean

[Boris Lozac]

Hi the Patch is great but there is one thing i noticed when playing online when driving and in ym rear view mirir a car quite far back well not far viewable to see there driver, the cars bumper comes all solid with no gaps and so the whole body of the car becomes like an oval, is it just me?

I will try get a pic so you understand what i mean

Jesus, it's your native language and i barely understood what you mean...

But since you mentioned this, i also had this the other day, it wasn't patch W, it was Test Patch V9 or V8, not sure. I didn't see cars in my rear mirror, but they were very close on the map, and i could see them when looking behind me, they were like 40, 50 metters behind me, but they didn't show up on the main mirror. Only noticed this once... It was on a straight of BL rev if that helps.

[PatNicon]

Thanks! Thought it might be an April fool's joke at first :scratchch but no, great patch. Sounds are way better. MAkes me turn up the volume :)

Have you seen this: http://www.google.com/tisp/ ??? :D

[jayhawk]

Hi the Patch is great but there is one thing i noticed when playing online when driving and in ym rear view mirir a car quite far back well not far viewable to see there driver, the cars bumper comes all solid with no gaps and so the whole body of the car becomes like an oval, is it just me?

I will try get a pic so you understand what i mean

Sometimes only the headlights disappear, other time the cars behind you look like a shoe, if they have no skin.

[mcintyrej]

Hi the Patch is great but there is one thing i noticed when playing online when driving and in ym rear view mirir a car quite far back well not far viewable to see there driver, the cars bumper comes all solid with no gaps and so the whole body of the car becomes like an oval, is it just me?

I will try get a pic so you understand what i mean

Something to do with your LOD reduction. Try "Mirror LOD" and "Dynamic LOD Reduction". Change them around

[Tube]

http://www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_PATCH_V_TO_W.exe


thanks!

[JasonJ]

.....
Just a huge 15 FPS drop (33% loss). Seems to be massivley affected by Layouts and multiplayer. I understand My GPU is sorta oldish - but I have a huge drop here (when V8 was running nicely) and I must now run LFS at 0.2 LOD and that looks quite bad. Quite a few in Multiplayer players report the same large drops is FPS but most wont post here.
I found the problem...... With all my messing around and testing I had actually turn OFF Multiplayer speedup option. I enabled it again and everything was back to normal. :thumb: Sorry for any confusion or hassles.

I double posted this because I double reported the problem. Sheesh:schwitz: