Tracks we wanna see in S3

[RacingSimFan]

In keeping with the thread on cars, post in here what you'd like to see in S3 as far as tracks go.

Because there aren't yet any signs that the developers are going after licenses for real-life tracks, please keep your choices fictional. (ie. don't say Nurburgring or Spa no matter how much we want them). Rather, choose a style as you'll see in my choices.

- a short, low-banked oval, suitable to the FOX and isn't flat out all the way around. Make it American in atmosphere.
- a country roads circuit, like the Isle of Man TT
- a German/Belgian style track that winds through forests and features long straights and fast turns (ideal for FO8)
- an airport course using runways and taxiways

[Qurpiz]

If there's going to be karts, then a track like Buckmore Park. Even if there's not going to be go-karts (which I'm afraid will happen), I'd still like to have Buckmore-type of track, for MRT to race in.

[Lible]

Airport course seems to be damn good idea.

I would personally like some more Blackwood configurations.

[TaiFong]

Personally, I'd like to see an extremely long straightaway. Not only would it be fun to hit maximum high speeds, but sometimes when I get bored, I go to the dragstrip and pretend I'm driving on the street - with AI cars being regular people driving along (think GTI vs. FZR). Then I watch the replays and see how insanely quick I accelerate past them or how big of a lead I can catch them on. Good fun. (Oh, and forget I said this, but a straightaway would be PERFECT for playing with LFSTweak) :shhh:

[Hankstar]

Nordschleife? Yes, that was me. :)

[Scottie]

I think the kind of tracks we need now with the faster cars are more the type like...

Nordschleife, Le mans (without the chicanes), Spa... they need an atmosphere about them. Kyoto GP is quite a long track, yes, but to me it's atmosphere is still the same as any other 3-4km track... need a track with character... out there.

but lets not forget the slower cars too...

maybe one or two more tracks like Bathurst, Philip Island or brands hatch... still with character, but a little twistier.

[TagForce]

Langstrecken... Long tracks that you just can't learn by driving 10 laps... I'm talking 10 miles minimum. Likes of the Nordschleife...

Ovals... Shorttracks, Speedways, Superspeedways, Dirttracks.

Rally stages... Anywhere from 4 to 50km multi surface roads through forests, towns, farmland.

Stadiums... Different setups inside a football stadium for different short racing series... I'm thinking drifting, pick-up truck racing

Kart tracks... Short narrow tracks for those small open wheeled moped type cars.

[marsden1002]

I really want too see a massive uphill track, with no downhills - Which will reverse as a massive downhill course.


Think this will push the cars to their limits, if we have full engine damage ie oil temp, water temp, over heating etc by the time s3 gets here

Cheers,

[Blackout]

I just would like to see more nonreal tracks by Eric. He is artist, no artist wants to copy something what allready done, I wouldnt. Maybe he could do hes own Nurburing, better and even more dangerous. There is no limits because this insnt real, we must remember that. I want my wheels of the ground and fly :D

And another thing to remember is that S2 ISNT EVEN OUT YET!

[marsden1002]

And another thing to remember is that S2 ISNT EVEN OUT YET!

Who said it was. There are things for S3, as we know they will never make S2 :D

[Blackout]

Its just a bit silly to see S3 threads allready

[marsden1002]

We have no influence on S2's features anymore. The next version we can influence is S3. So this isn't silly at all.

Vain

Thats too true :D , The devs prob already know what they are going too add into S2, and what things they are going to sort out.

[Revzalot]

I just would like to see more nonreal tracks by Eric. He is artist, no artist wants to copy something what allready done, I wouldnt. Maybe he could do hes own Nurburing, better and even more dangerous. There is no limits because this insnt real, we must remember that. I want my wheels of the ground and fly :D

And another thing to remember is that S2 ISNT EVEN OUT YET!

I have to agree that Eric design tracks for LFS that are unbelievable. All the tracks in LFS are too fun to drive and the apexes are right on. I'd love to see an airport track with lots of bumps allowing the cars to fly midair. I also would enjoy racing at a port city like Monaco. I think a long straight would be boring. Just hit the drag strip.

[L(Oo)ney]

A baja 1000 type course, to go with the baja truck i mentioned in teh other thread. :nod:

We can dream, i suppose.. :shrug:

[speedfreak227]

i think the current tracks ae AWESOME. it's fun once you get to know where the little bumps are and such.

on thing that might be added (if it's not already) is different sections of pavement on the track with varying levels of grip. corners where the asphalt has been ripped up and concrete has replaced it.

maybe corners where the "line" is one material and off line is another.

also, it would be nice if a track could "rubber in" as the laps went on. and what about if an off course car could bring sand or dirt back onto the track with him.

oh! how about after a few laps if you went off line (could be more pronounced on a street track) you'd pick up "marbles"

these are the little things that plauged me in my karting years.


speedfreak227

[Racedriver76]

I wanna something like an "American route 55 style" track! Gimme a veeery long stright to cruise on, or make a "country road route 55 style circuit" ... that would be great!:boing:

Dont want to seem like a smart ***, but I suppose you mean Route 66!

Would be very cool though, to have a very long straight of road to race on, yet probably not very competitive in the end.

I would like to see the same kind of creativity that came with S2. Fictional tracks, very diverse, but extremely competitive, and loads of fun. And one can always improve on these tracks, which I see as the main feat.

[L(Oo)ney]

Wheres the fun in going in a straight line? Each to their own i guess..

Now, going in a straight line, while jumping over multiple 10/20 foot jumps, that sounds like real fun, to me! :razz:

[Cue-Ball]

I really want too see a massive uphill track, with no downhills - Which will reverse as a massive downhill course.
I agree. This is something I'd like to see as well. A winding country road. Not a race track at all, just a long, twisty two lane road with plenty of elevation changes. There were tracks like this in the original Need for Speed (before it was all about 20" chrome wheels and stickers) and those were a LOT of fun.

I'd also like to see off-road tracks that have no pavement and plenty of jumps (a truck or buggy to go with it would be nice). Maybe an indoor stadium dirt track or an outdoor track with several different configurations.

A dirt track oval and a sprint car or stock car to use on it.

A figure-8 track that will allow us to run multiple laps. This would fit perfectly in the infield of the dirt track. :) I watch this type of racing every year on the 4th of July and it looks like a LOT of fun.

[vpr01]

I would like to see Brands Hatch and Bedford Autodrome circuits implemented (and their variations - GP, club etc)

Main reason being because I've driven those in real life many times :D

[nism0]

I wana see a really long track, like 7-8 minutes, with changes of elevation, like start high above sea level, then go downhill.
Not so much a downhill "mountain" just a long track with a downhill look to it.

[Gunn]

Some great suggestions here, but Airport tracks? Airport tracks are usually hated by drivers because they are bumpy, slippery, dangerous, and have no elevation changes. Most airport tracks suffer from unimaginative layouts as well. I recall reading comments by various drivers stating how much they loathed airport circuits and setting up the car was always a bit of guesswork. Are people suggesting these tracks because of the surrounding environment? I can see how that may be appealing. I'm yet to see a decent track utilising airport runways. (not refering to WW2 airfields that became cicuits like Goodwood, Silverstone etc). I can see how a change of track scenery is appealing in an aiport setting, though.

[X-Ter]

I would like to see some versons of real tracks. And especially Swedish tracks :)
A track like Mantorp Park for example, could be a perfect track location since it has at least three possible configurations.

http://www.racingcircuits.net/Sweden/Mantorp%20Park.gif

And it would be VERY fun to have the not yet finished (if it ever will be) Viking Motor Park in LFS

http://www.racingcircuits.net/Sweden/Viking%20Motor%20Park%20Oval.gif

As you can see, this one has many planned configurations and if finished, it will be one of Europes biggest tracks.

[(NOZ)RockyZ]

I want togues, any elevated plains would be good.

Also a small dirt oval like the ones those champ cars race?

[speedfreak227]

Also a small dirt oval like the ones those champ cars race?

What champ cars have you been watching? DIRT?

speedfreak227

[vpr01]

Some great suggestions here, but Airport tracks? Airport tracks are usually hated by drivers because they are bumpy, slippery, dangerous, and have no elevation changes. Most airport tracks suffer from unimaginative layouts as well. I recall reading comments by various drivers stating how much they loathed airport circuits and setting up the car was always a bit of guesswork. Are people suggesting these tracks because of the surrounding environment? I can see how that may be appealing. I'm yet to see a decent track utilising airport runways. (not refering to WW2 airfields that became cicuits like Goodwood, Silverstone etc). I can see how a change of track scenery is appealing in an aiport setting, though.

I see what your saying, but airfield tracks like Bedford Autodrome are great for rookies/noobs because they are so flat, and the run offs are massive, and dont punish you for spinning. The circuit layout is actually quite good.

[skiingman]

Hey my mistake, ofcourse i meant Route66

I think its odd that two people both not living in the US think a Route 66 track would be cool. I didn't know the Route 66 legend extended past our borders. Cool.

I live uh, about .3 miles from a section of that road.

[skiingman]

I see what your saying, but airfield tracks like Bedford Autodrome are great for rookies/noobs because they are so flat, and the run offs are massive, and dont punish you for spinning. The circuit layout is actually quite good.
My prob with airport tracks in sims/games has always been finding my turnin point. Soooo much concrete and such a narrow field of view.

I like the idea though. Would definitely be cool to have.

[LRB_Aly]

I always hated airport tracks cause of the narrow field of view, and setting the car up is difficult and to find the turn in points. And cause of this probs, i don't think that it would be such a good thing for rookies. Cause you don't really have an orientation on these tracks. Well anyway there surely are poeple who like those though.

[Racer Y]

Yeah I'd like a "route 66" course too.
that would a good idea :) it would be cool to have something like that.
you could have gas stations that were pits. And where it runs from
New Mexico to Arizona is some of the prettiest country I've ever seen.

The trouble is, how much space and memory would be required to make a course that was 150km long?
But real tracks? I dunno I think they ought to base a real track on Eric's aston tracks. And I also got a feeling with S-3, Eric will come up with something that will make people say... nordiwhat?

[Tweaker]

I was just watching some videos of all kinds of cars driving at Nordschliefe, and I have to say, if we had a similar track... regardless of length, all I would really want is something that has rapid change of elevation and proves to be very challenging because of the huge bumps and undulations that you always encounter.

Would be very fun to have. Otherwise, if it weren't a road course, make it rally, that would be nice :).

But I see people suggesting a 'Route 66' type map... hmmm just as long as we get a few supercars that can go really fast, I'll vouch for that :). But doing a huge super draft in slow cars would be sweet.

[1993S14]

I want something with mountains and hills and elevation changes, and of course narrow roads. A really long road.

Other than the tracks, I really think that we need a sedan, I'm not talking about luxury, something like WRX STi or lancer evo. I mean, all the cars are 2 door...or no door. And maybe then whatever that car's name is going to be, make a GTR version as well?? :)

I don't know, just giving some ideas.

[Mazz4200]

As above:-

An alpine track, with 1000ft drops and sheer cliffs either side of the track,
hairpin after hairpin, and loads of tunnels !

If they put a bus in the game you could play out "The Italian Job" every night

And see if the FO8 really can drive upside down at 120mph

Or maybe the centre of London, past all the sights, and , even down into the Tube system (as in Midtown Madness).

:shrug:

[Tweaker]

An alpine track, with 1000ft drops and sheer cliffs either side of the track,
hairpin after hairpin, and loads of tunnels !

DEFINITELY always the type of track I like to play in any car games :).

Hairpins going downhill or uphill are lots of fun.

[vpr01]

what about tracks with cones in places to help rookies with their racing line, breaking points and turning points?

[Kashopi]

I want "hell-dammit-difficult" tracks made by Eric himself. No real ones.
Uphills ,downhills, chicanes,bumps,narrowing zones,windy sectors and , of course , RALLY TRACKS , with holes,long jumps,icy zones,muddy waters.

[(HUN)ultiMate]

what about tracks with cones in places to help rookies with their racing line, breaking points and turning points?

You can do it with the autocross editor (shift+u), only someone got to do it. :nod:. Good idea.

[huxorator]

All we need is a Nordschleife and a million new, realistic cars. :)

[mrfell]

It would seem most people would like longer courses, so with that in mind I want to do the Gumball Rally, be it American or European!!!

Totally over the top but what the heck, everytime i blink hard drives are getting bigger and bigger!!!

[1993S14]

Some great suggestions here, but Airport tracks? Airport tracks are usually hated by drivers because they are bumpy, slippery, dangerous, and have no elevation changes. Most airport tracks suffer from unimaginative layouts as well. I recall reading comments by various drivers stating how much they loathed airport circuits and setting up the car was always a bit of guesswork. Are people suggesting these tracks because of the surrounding environment? I can see how that may be appealing. I'm yet to see a decent track utilising airport runways. (not refering to WW2 airfields that became cicuits like Goodwood, Silverstone etc). I can see how a change of track scenery is appealing in an aiport setting, though.

Airports can cause severe dangers when there are bad winds, see what I mean...:D

[spookthehamster]

It would be excellent to see a real track in LFS, especially something like the Nordschleife or Brands.

One thing I never want to see is tracks that have been converted from other games: You see this sort of thing in GPL and nascar games all the time, and most of them look like arse. Eric would have to make these tracks, and this means that the devs would have to fork out for a license for them, which is pricey.

How about we all pitch together and buy the rights for Eric to create the digital likeness of a track?

[Hyperactive]

What LFS is missing at the moment is a 5km long tarmac track which:
- is very bumpy
- has no loong straights
- lots of altitude changes (jumps and sudden down/uphills)
- a lot of trees and other objects to prevent cutting :)

So a track perfect for a car with around 200-300hp and rwd

And FE black is not this...

[Impexus]

I want to see tracks like this.

1. Gotland Ring. New track in Sweden
2. Scandinavien Raceway Anderstorp.

[canadaman11]

What about tracks in the US. ROAD ATLANTA would be a great track for many of the cars.

[Tweaker]

I want to see tracks like this.

1. Gotland Ring. New track in Sweden
2. Scandinavien Raceway Anderstorp.
That Gotland Ring looks cool, and has many combinations, would be good for LFS :)

[RacingSimFan]

The game needs a track like old Hockenheim.

Now before you reach for your barf bags, hear me out on this.

FO8 racing as it is now is by and large a survival game. Outside of the oval, even at Westhill, we're too busy dancing on the throttle and trying to keep the car under control to actually have a good race.

We need a track almost exactly like old Hockenheim. There should be a windy section to actually reward car control skills of the driver but there should also be a section with really long straights to allow drivers to think more about passing than about whether they can keep the car under control.

Oval racing isn't everyone's cup of tea, but right now it is the best if not only track suited to this car.

[Hyperactive]

The game needs a track like old Hockenheim.
...
FO8 racing as it is now is by and large a survival game. Outside of the oval, even at Westhill, we're too busy dancing on the throttle and trying to keep the car under control to actually have a good race.

We need a track almost exactly like old Hockenheim. There should be a windy section to actually reward car control skills of the driver but there should also be a section with really long straights to allow drivers to think more about passing than about whether they can keep the car under control.


But isn't that Spa you're talking about?

So far people have suggested long and fast tracks and slow and painful tracks (like me too:)). Pain is good :bullwhip:

[farcar]

Definitely a Bathurst inspired course. (http://xtramsn.co.nz/sport/0,,12049-4849759,00.html)

Long fast uphill sectoin with a dangerous, steep and twisty top section, followed by a huge downhill straight with a massive and frighteningly fast chase at the end.

Oh, and maybe a V8 to go with it :D

A modern F1 GP circut might be interesting too for the fast open wheelers (maybe even faster ones in S3). Maybe inspired by Shanghai, Bahraine or Magny Cours.

[ajp71]

A 14 mile German track with a 172 turns.

[spookthehamster]

A 14 mile German track with a 172 turns.

What an amazing idea! Now only if there was a track like that in real life, which we could pay to drive our own cars around...

[Chaos]

What an amazing idea! Now only if there was a track like that in real life, which we could pay to drive our own cars around...
such track exists, and you can drive on it with you car... it's a kind of toll road now...
Nurburgring Nordschleife (http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/map.html) 13 miles, 73 bends

[speedfreak227]

such track exists, and you can drive on it with you car... it's a kind of toll road now...
Nurburgring Nordschleife (http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/map.html) 13 miles, 73 bends


i think he was being sarcastic. most racers know about it and how you can pay per lap to drive on it.

speedfreak227

[Mazz4200]

Three suggestions

1 Mille Miglia (italian for 1000 miles) is a classic race (would that be long enough for ya ?)
2 The race from my office (Newcastle) to Edinburgh (about 120 miles), with a package that has to be there in less than an hour and a half. The A68 or the A697, without a doubt, two of the finest roads in the world, (if you've ever driven them, you'll know)
3 The race to find a parking space in London, on a weekday morning !
:smileypul

[Turb0]

the bathurst for all the aussie fans

[JTbo]

Motopark (http://www.motopark.fi), Finland or something like it would be nice, there is nice hill parts and also few bit technical turns, braking downhill and turning same time, so will be mostly for bit more advanced racers?
In a future that track may not exists because of few ppl that has summer houses on that area :(

Track is available for GPL here (http://www.kolumbus.fi/keni1/motopark.htm), so some of you may test it a bit. Very big thanks to authors that have made track available.

Also that is my home track and I have grown to like those kind of track, like Green Hell too, hills corners, blind corners, fast parts and slow parts. Many tracks are bit too straight forward for my liking, Ovals I can't like, no matter how I try I just can't learn to like from those.

Also I'm one of those idiots asking mountain road ;) So something like that would be nice too :)

Simple and Flat are big no no for me, but I think that some ppl like those too, I think that there should be tracks for everyone.

Well, I think that is my 2c here :)

[WIGGA]

I would like to see the Nürburgring Nordschleife+Gp Track(Nürbugring).
And a very long Dragstrip minumum 25 Kilometers to look what the Car can go.

[Toine]

brisca tracks (baalo northampton bristol sheffield st-maarten bradford hednesford venray ) for racing with the small racingcars would be great

Toine

[CharlieP]

A very large woodland and grass, mud , lakes area where you can design your own courses like AutoX for some great rally fun :)

[Michael Miskella]

well i guess a nordschleife type track is gonna have to be done, alot of us are hoping for it ;)

i'd like to see more kyoto gp long style tracks only with much shorter straights (long enough for safe overtaking moves though) and no banks so we dont have to sacrifice downforce and struggle through cornors for the rest of the lap....basically more from the blgp/westhill style would feed my fo8 fetish nicely :D


and anything else i missed that RacingSimFan said, he knows whats needed.

[ReDorDeD]

Can we have some oval tracks where you have to brake for the turns?

[Huru-aito]

Targa Florio :tilt:
Mille Miglia :pillepall
Nordschleife :D
Mount Panorama
Isle of Man
AVUS (especially the long config :pillepall )
Zolder
Spa
Le Mans

And, of course, one Finnish track: Ahvenisto. Both tracks, tarmac and rallycross.

EDIT: of course we can't have them in LfS, I just hope Eric looks into the tracks and tries to replicate their characteristics with his own designs!

[seinfeld]

I want to see Tsukuba circut, aND FUJI SPEEDWAY, AND NURBURGRING
caps sorry

[Sternendaal]

Sorry guys,but I rather have some fictional tracks like we ALWAYS used to have :)

[Henrik[SWE]]

gotland ring and more rallycross tracks. also cart and drifting tracks

[WeirdOddity]

Noob here.

I was sorta hoping for a really, really difficult track. A uber-downhill or uphill course, mountain-style. Lots of short straights, really small hairpins (1st or 2nd gear) combined with some 3rd-4th gear bends on a really thin, 2-lane (plus shoulders) road. The point of this is for someone to flex their car control rather than what car they use, and make it possible for say, the XFG to kill the XRT, LX4, or even a RB4 on such a road.

Eh...here's something of what I'm thinking about.
http://gallery.tsukaeru.jp/iroha/iroha.htm
doesn't have to be japan though.

[Kannix(GER)]

How about a nice city course with some 90° curves and of course no safty zones?

[Huru-aito]

South City?

[(ADA)Dusty]

I would love to see some touge tracks like based off of maybe like Mt. Akina or just some random mountain roads with lots of turns.

Anotehr thing that would be awesome is to have a track editor and have it so people can download it from your server, just like getting a Counter Strike map. That way we could attract the track makers and anyone.

One track that would totally ROCK is to see Sekia Hills in it. I would bow down to the devs!:lovies3d:

[cynic64]

the bathurst for all the aussie fans

The beauty of a Bathurst-like track is the combination of all that is great about both track racing and road racing. Off camber curves, downhill, uphill, chicanes, loooong straights.

.......Oh and a V8 saloon to drive there too please

Track first, V8 second though.
:nod:

[theblackrabbi]

Gatta Have Long Beach

[shim]

id like to see a track surrounded by forrests.. where on the other side of the barriers you cant see nothing but trees for miles..kinda a mix between Trail mountain and deep forrest from the GT series..

[noj38]

i would like some silly(yet great fun )tracks like in mario kart. For example there could be a track made from cheese. etc etc but more importantly what i would like to see in S3 is an option for the weather snow and things like that.:nod:

[Hyperactive]

i would like some silly(yet great fun )tracks like in mario kart. For example there could be a track made from cheese. etc etc but more importantly what i would like to see in S3 is an option for the weather snow and things like that.:nod:

Hmm... I really see no possibilities for a cheese track :pillepall :D And then we would need some cheese-slicer cars, with v8 of course.

[MoBy]

Chicago Airport.

they race cars on there....

[Julppu]

And, of course, one Finnish track: Ahvenisto. Both tracks, tarmac and rallycross.
Aah, Ahvenisto... Considering the political athmosphere that has ruled Hämeenlinna for decades, it's a little miracle that Ahvenisto still exists... Never raced it, but had my "dark hours driving session" in driving school there.

Ok, maybe bit off topic, but just had to rant about it for.. :shy:

[M. Oliver]

Dear LFS Team
Live For Speed is the best racing simulator in the world, I'm sure!!!
But I think something is missing: :shrug:The Nürburgring + Nordschleife!!!!
PLEASE make this tracks in on of the NEXT PATCHES!!!!:shy:
!!!!!PLEASE!!!!!
:thumb:Thx M. Oliver:thumb:

[Primoz]

Keep dreaming. :pillepall

[tristancliffe]

Dear LFS Team
Live For Speed is the best racing simulator in the world, I'm sure!!!
But I think something is missing: :shrug:The Nürburgring + Nordschleife!!!!
PLEASE make this tracks in on of the NEXT PATCHES!!!!:shy:
!!!!!PLEASE!!!!!
:thumb:Thx M. Oliver:thumb:

Make the cheque payable to:

"Scavier isn't made of money, and these things are expensive",
c/o Scawen Roberts,
A recently refurbished house that makes baby noises,
Twickenham
London
England

[george_tsiros]

You guys got nuthin... we need group B cars and the Rally Acropolis course. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_Acropolis :razz:

[MyBoss]

Definitely a Bathurst inspired course. (http://xtramsn.co.nz/sport/0,,12049-4849759,00.html)

Long fast uphill sectoin with a dangerous, steep and twisty top section, followed by a huge downhill straight with a massive and frighteningly fast chase at the end.

Oh, and maybe a V8 to go with it :D

A modern F1 GP circut might be interesting too for the fast open wheelers (maybe even faster ones in S3). Maybe inspired by Shanghai, Bahraine or Magny Cours.



I'm with you on that, bathurst is one amazing track

[Primoz]

Philip island is also a nice track, dunno how it would suit for car racing (is it possible it's meant for motorcycles?). has lots of ups and downs, fast, sweeping turns, hairpins :)

[anbiddulph]

A verry long (10-15 mile) track, very tight but very smooth 21st century núrburgring ( is that spelt rite?):pillepall

[lavigne165]

I think there should be a south city configuration : "the whole city"
wouldn't that be just ......"GREAT".....???

[MyBoss]

I think there should be a south city configuration : "the whole city"
wouldn't that be just ......"GREAT".....???


Yes it would, and at the same time open up Fern Bay, Aston, Kyoto and so on. Would be fun:nod:

[jasoncarthes]

I'd love these track :
-Bathurst ou a bathurst like track (for exemple like blue mountain raceway in forza)
-Laguna seca (or a copy of a fictional track that look like laguna)
-Surfer paradise city track
-A track based on a close road for racing in the mountain (like fuji for exemple) ideal for drift :D
-A complete offroad track :)
-A1 Alpine ring track :D
With tese tracks i'd like to see fictional 70's american muscle too (like 'vette and dodge charger mustang etc....)
and why not some 80's style car :) (initial d styled)

[Eldanor]

Ok, dreaming is free so here I go :)

Jarama (Madrid): Usually unknown great track with up & down hills and a damn fast finish straight.

http://www.racingcircuits.net/Spain/Jarama%20Long.gif

And.. oh yes... THE RING

[Primoz]

Link doesn't work. And seing Long in the name, does it have more layouts? :)

[Primoz]

The physics engine doesn't support open tracks, sorry... Would be nice though, for qualifying or hot lapping, if you screw up a lap, just take a shortcut :)

[Lerxster]

Knockhill is always good for some exciting racing! Short but very sweet.

Caterham racing at Knockhill (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3984612778462445397&q=caterham)

Circuit (http://www.btcc.net/html/circuit_detail.php?id=8)

[evyytw133]

There still seams that there are more possiblities at Aston for new tracks.
With the already popular North and Grand Touring proving that there are untapped depths.

Idea 1 is a combination of Club and Cadet. It would make new approaches to a lot of corners and make the tight hairpin pair of corners different.
Idea 2 is a combination of Cadet and the upper part of National. This would mean taking on the fast chicane in Club from the top hairpin and making it even more daring.
Idea 3, combine Kyoto National and GP Long making a monster course that would challange all drivers and allow some long endurance races.

Just and idea.

"LFS, the best racing sim EVER"

[mengy007]

If they ever post a track editor other than the autocross one I will make several long freeway type tracks. I've always wanted to make tracks like that. I guess in certain places you could block off certain lanes to make the track more challenging... I think it'll be fun

It'll be like ridge racer but more realistic.. it would be cool if we could add traffic

[Badyk]

The Nurburgring would be awesome (but perhaps a bit overambitious).

I reckon the Top Gear test track would be pretty cool

[Primoz]

TG test track is useless, figure of 8.

I have an idea. I know we already have 3 brittish racing tracks but one more wouldn't hurt. One with KILLER uphils and downhills, tight, unforgiving, bad tarmac, challenging corners and series of corners, cambered outwards sometimes, etc. Aston is WAY too modern for that, Westhill is quite modern too, too wide at least, Blackwood was close but has been renovated since, quite wide now too. So basicly i'm saying to go back to the roots, S1 style. Narrow tracks that give the feeling of a rollercoaster BUT when you drive it right, hit the corner like a nail on it's head, it gives this FANTASTIC feeling of being the king of the world (or that corner :D).

What do you think?

[duke_toaster]

TG test track is useless, figure of 8.

I have an idea. I know we already have 3 brittish racing tracks but one more wouldn't hurt. One with KILLER uphils and downhills, tight, unforgiving, bad tarmac, challenging corners and series of corners, cambered outwards sometimes, etc. Aston is WAY too modern for that, Westhill is quite modern too, too wide at least, Blackwood was close but has been renovated since, quite wide now too. So basicly i'm saying to go back to the roots, S1 style. Narrow tracks that give the feeling of a rollercoaster BUT when you drive it right, hit the corner like a nail on it's head, it gives this FANTASTIC feeling of being the king of the world (or that corner :D).

What do you think?

A knockhill clone, you mean :)

[Primoz]

I first thought of Brand's Hatch (guess what i watched on Eurosport yesterday :) ), but Knockhill comes close too. Donnington has a nice downhill section soon after the start too :)

[thsancho]

I wouldn't mind seeing the track Road Atlanta, mainly because I have driven on it and It is an awesome track.

[Mazz4200]

A knockhill clone, you mean :)

Maybe Cadwell Park is closer to his idea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL9unpxzewo&search=%20Cadwell%20Park

The in car commentary on this is quite funny too :) (although it is a very slow lap)

p.s this is one of the best tracks in GPL :nod:

[Yaamboo]

One of my tracks like this one. ;)

[Primoz]

Wow, a nice design. Lots of tightening corners :) Maybe could flow a bit better (it has a lot of 'breaks' in it - hairpins, non-sweeping corners), but it would still be nice. It gives A LOT of passing oprotunities.

[Ill_eagle94]

A mixed dirt/tarmac hillclimb such as Pikes Peak: Map / (http://www.ppihc.com/default.asp?mtype=maps&contid=29)Video (http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/kp/PikesPeak.mpeg)

Nordschleife, but that has already been mentioned.

A "Tough Trucks" stadium truck style racing area or 2, complete with jumps and whatnot. Link (http://www.nmro.net/tough_trucks.html)

Small (1/8 mile or so) oval track, with a possible figure 8 configuration with and without small ramps, to make things interesting. Example (http://www.nmro.net/tough_trucks.html)

More road courses, with large elevation changes. Example (http://www.clubmotorsports.com/track/index.cfm?ac=description&CFID=1119941&CFTOKEN=54068647)

[altquark]

First of all, I'd like to see a track editor. That would be fantastic - and I'm not talking about an autocross editor.

Here are the tracks I'd like to see.

1. Sebring International Raceway with current AND with 1950's hairpin
2. Barber Motorsports Park. This is the #1 reason I play rFactor - so I can practice on this prior to actually racing it.
3. Homestead Speedway, Miami

Of course, the above are personal greedy reasons - I race those circuits, and I would love to have LFS as my "replacement" sim !

Circuits in the UK I'd like to see :

1. Silverstone - modern F1 wide circuit with lots of overtaking
2. Castle Combe - a "club" circuit with a very difficult blind off-camber corner
3. Goodwood - a "classic" circuit.
4. A Hillclimb - either Wiscombe or Prescott
5. A tough special stage rally course - such as Kielder forest in Scotland !

If I had all these SE US and UK circuits I'd retire from work and play LFS day in and day out. I might even cut down on real racing .......!

[KillerMonkey]

I'd love a really really long and narrow track, a la Nurburgring. Right now, even Fern Black doesn't come close to The Ring's length. Some rally tracks would be great too!

[Chris_Kerry]

I'd just like to see a new Eric creation. The only track I'm not fond of is the Westhill track. I don't know why, just doesn't float my boat.

[Primoz]

Silverstone isn't a modern F1 circuit. It has been used for F1 for a while with practiacly no changes. It's still ran on an abandoned airfield. But i'd still like either one that is simmilar or a track that is more like one that i have described above. And we already have 2 modern racing circuits situated in England - Aston and Blackwood. Westhill may be modernized with a layout or two in the future too.

Fern Bay Black isn't the longest track in LFS anymore, Aston takes it's place. But Black is nicer for GTRs, that's true. Also try SO Long if you haven't, rollercoaster too :> An even scarier one :D

[jrusselluk]

I'd like to seen any short oval for the UF1 bangers.

James

[BuddY ChRisT]

great track yaamboo! what do you use to design tracks??
since its gonna be hard for the devs to afford a real track licence, what we could do is organize a little contest, each one of us just design a track and post it. then with a simple vote, the community decides which track is gonna appear in our beloved LFS. what do you think? of course the pbm is we cant see elevation on your track yaamboo, whereas a race track has to have elevations issue, do you guys now any simple tool to create race track or add elevation lines on a track like yaamboo's?

[Yaamboo]

I used Photoshop for that one. Usually I draw the track first on paper, then scan it and redraw it in Photoshop.

[www_SoundChilds_net]

Long enough, twisted enough - but still officially suited for F1: Monaco GP

Naturally our girlfriends should have a special spectator spot from a suite at Hotel Du Paris :D

-M

[Bluebird B B]

Long enough, twisted enough - but still officially suited for F1: Monaco GP

Naturally our girlfriends should have a special spectator spot from a suite at Hotel Du Paris :D

-M
Monaco is not an F1 track
F1 is racing there for one simple reason
MONEY!

[Primoz]

We have the City.

[downwiz2]

MOUNTAIN COURSES!:thumb:

[sgt.flippy]

I still want Zolder.

[www_SoundChilds_net]

Monaco is not an F1 track
F1 is racing there for one simple reason
MONEY!

Maybe true, but as there are quite many requests for narrow tracks with elevations I think Monaco would be cool because its just like that: narrow with elevations.

I also presonally prefer real world tracks over fictional ones as LFS is a more realistic sim than any other driving game I´ve tried - the very reason (in addition to the excellent online gaming interface) why I selected it :)

-M

[exon]

I beg for Nordschleife.... It will take long enough to get bored with such a long and winding track!

[apackdk]

I would really like to see a Touge style track... Long and very narrow track with lots of tight blind corners. If you know Best Motoring International, you know what im on about... The track should be just wide enough for 2 cars to go side by side. It will also be great for some drifting action!

A track like this will require lots of skills to go fast.

[Colin_Chapman]

Nordschleife or similar

there is no other track that could compete with that :)

[PanterACFH]

Yep, Bathurst or a fake Bathurst like in Forza as someone said previously. Even the Adelaide street circuit would be sweet. I made a mini version up on the autocross editor :)

PanterA

[Dajmin]

I know it's been suggested before, but something in a Finnish style; narrow, twisty, elevated with some nasty humps and with a couple of icy sections :)

[Captain Slow]

Nordschleife or similar

there is no other track that could compete with that :)

ill agree, definetly should make that track, or a one with very similar styling. :thumb:

[Trekkerfahrer]

i think a modern f1 track like the today ones (bahrain, malaysia, hockenheimring) will be nice...... cause there is no really good track for the bf1 in lfs yet.....

mfg

trekker

[DeKo]

i think something like hockenheim, like a new moderm circuit with wide run off areas, great track layout, etc..

[Nate2212]

There's a little track that's near me, very hilly, very challenging and I think it would transfer over to LFS really well. The one thing that would be a problem is getting the permission of the group that runs the track, to recreate it for a product that would be sold - I talked to them about making it for GPL and they didn't mind, but for LFS, well...

It's 1.6 miles long, 12 turns and near 100 feet, if not more of elevation change

This is the map of the track from the website.

http://www.atlanticmotorsportpark.com/images/AMP-Map.jpg

Think of it as a smaller, tighter, more demanding mosport, with bigger elevation change. The drop through turn 1 is unreal even going 60km/h

[Waakku]

I don't have much track ideas but car ideas much more but that's not the idea of this topic.

I would like to see new oval track or long long straight for top speed testing. and much more long drag strip would be also nice.

Sprint track and ofrroad terrain / park would be also good. But the most I wanna see very very long track with very fast turns and small and bit bigger bumps. Like Nurburgring.

Let's hope the best and fear the worst :D

[JamesK]

I'd like to see something like Mount Washington (very old video HERE (http://www.glhracing.com/movies/washing2000.wmv)).

[dravgunov]

Nürburgring Nordshleife

[Sketchyrollin564]

The two common most wanted tracks are probly Nurburgring, and a mountain pass (touge) track.

I want them both, really bad.

[Stage D]

i'd have a japanese mounting for drifting and a city with ai cars as civilians and cops...

[Venus]

I'd like to see Bathurst. Love that track. Its sooo technical. Also some hillclimbs. The idea for a long narrow two lane twisty road is great idea, but should be both up and downhill. Going down can be more challenging than going up. Also, more erics maps particularly with a laguna seca corkscrew (but not laguna seca (boring except for the corkscrew).

I'd love to see Nurburgring, and no F1 tracks please. Done them to death.

On the track issue though, I would like to compliment Eric on his artistry. His tracks are brilliantly designed, and would make first class tracks in real life. Well done!!!

Ven

[Tony Pearce]

My idea for a track is a little different than the ones above.

I'm not suggesting a particular track. Rather, the dev's allowing others to make tracks themselves. Then we can have some real world tracks that aren't made by LFS dev's. Similar to the way GPL works. It's a game that's nearly 10 years old, and still has new tracks, or updates for tracks, coming out regularly. I don't think the Bathurst council, or the mayor of Suzuka is out hunting down the bastards that made their track for GPL and there's more people driving GPL at the moment than LFS.

I don't think we should be able to edit cars. I don't think we want to go down the rFactor route with 50 different mods. But having real world tracks with the cars we have would be a great inclusion to LFS.

IMHO, appart from the wet weather and sound, the only thing this game needs to be near-perfect is real world tracks, and if no money's being made off them, it can only be a good thing :nod:

[JamesK]

... and a city with ai cars as civilians and cops...Sounds like you're after Grand Theft Auto or something :shrug:

[ZerFEr]

ill agree, definetly should make that track, or a one with very similar styling. :thumb:

just agreeing ;)

[mrminor28]

LOT Of a tracks and track editor please :D

[Mugna]

Yes... so... the nurburgring it's a little bit... some says "ambitious" :scratchch

But the Top Gear test track... just for fun, that live fors speed is :D

Fabio

[Primoz]

For that, we'd need a big AutoX area and TG's permission.

[Cue-Ball]

Sounds like you're after Grand Theft Auto or something :shrug:Have you ever played the original Need For Speed? It had tracks like this and was probably the most fun racing sim I've ever played (including LFS). There were mountain tracks, city tracks, and racing circuits. On the mountain tracks there was traffic traveling in both directions which added a big element of risk to the racing. The city tracks also had traffic, but only in the same direction (racing down the freeway, essentially). Not only did you have to tame the road, but you had to contend with traffic as well, knowing when you could push it and when you should slow down a bit.

I would give almost anything to have the original NFS remade with the physics of LFS.

[Vain]

Südschleife.

That'd be pretty unique. :)

Vain

[jtr99]

Südschleife.

That'd be pretty unique. :)



It would indeed. When was it last raced on? Got a link? (Or I can go look for myself, I am admittedly just being lazy.)

[Aquilifer]

Südschleife.

That'd be pretty unique. :)

Vain

What about an 'Old Ring' area with 3 tracks:
- Nordschleife
- Südschleife
- Combined (Nord und Süd)
Like it was in reality before they scrapped the Süd in the early 80s. There was also some shorter piece of track in Südschleife used for practising.

Then we would need some old classic car for those tracks.

[ethan520]

Have you ever played the original Need For Speed? It had tracks like this and was probably the most fun racing sim I've ever played (including LFS). There were mountain tracks, city tracks, and racing circuits. On the mountain tracks there was traffic traveling in both directions which added a big element of risk to the racing. The city tracks also had traffic, but only in the same direction (racing down the freeway, essentially). Not only did you have to tame the road, but you had to contend with traffic as well, knowing when you could push it and when you should slow down a bit.

I would give almost anything to have the original NFS remade with the physics of LFS.
same but i wouldn't call NFS a racing sim
rather an arcade sim :tilt:

[animal1313]

http://www.richardkunze.de/sued_000.htm

In german, but has a map.

[Cue-Ball]

same but i wouldn't call NFS a racing sim
rather an arcade sim :tilt:The first Need for Speed wasn't like the later ones. It was fairly realistic for the time. Not to the level of Indy Car Racing or the original NASCAR sims, but pretty good none the less. And it's one of the few games that had point to point tracks, traffic, and decent cars (Supra, NSX, Diablo, etc).

[Vain]

Here (http://www.richard-kunze.de/filme/sued.wmv) are a few video-pieces. First from the 70s, when the track was still sometimes used, but the tape ran out during the lap, so the author drove again there 10 years later, when the track was already in a horrible shape.
It's the same author as in the link above. You can click corners on the map to get to stereo-images of the corner.

Vain

[jtr99]

Danke, Vain and Animal.

[Hyperactive]

...
But the Top Gear test track... just for fun, that live fors speed is :D

Fabio
For that, we'd need a big AutoX area and TG's permission.

The Top gear track is certainly possible. To cut the long story short, the deal could be something like this:
If Top gear wanted to make a public version of the track LFS could provide the software for it. In simplest form LFS gets the track and the car (probably the Suzuki Liana) and Top gear gets a sim in which the viewers can try their skills and could try to beat the celebrities' (and Stig's) times. This wouldn't add the workload on devs on long term because the TG part would fully be integrated into LFS. No separate versions. LFS was downloaded just like now from lfs.net. All that is needed is the TG track environment and the car. And the track could be used as a environment for airfield tracks and autocrossing layouts (few could be provided as tracks by LFS devs).

Here's the catch: The TG car would be available in demo, but only offline and for that TG track only. For a TG hotlap competition, for example. The demo players got the Suzuki Liana on the TG track and the XFG/XRG/XRT on Blackwood. But with demo lisence you could drive the TG part just offline. Also no LFS cars on the TG track. Only S2 registered users could drive the TG track and the Liana online. I'm not sure about the Liana' specs but I guess it would be quite close to the UF1 ;). With top gear's track we could verify how accurate the physics in LFS, in arcade way at least. It would be interesting to see how close the lap times were, if the track was properly modelled. Not really anything scientific value but still something.

The fact that LFS is (basically) english helps too. I'm sure TG would prefer an english solution ;). And LFS would certainly get a lot of air time all around the world.

[Blas89]

The "Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez" "Rodriguez Brothers Racetrack":)

1992 last formula 1 race here.

[Sketchyrollin564]

and a city with ai cars as civilians and cops...'


ever been in carribean cruise server? Real people as cops, who give you real fines. Real people, 2 way streets..... check it out somtime?

[James Montgomery]

Here (http://www.richard-kunze.de/filme/sued.wmv) are a few video-pieces. First from the 70s, when the track was still sometimes used, but the tape ran out during the lap, so the author drove again there 10 years later, when the track was already in a horrible shape.
It's the same author as in the link above. You can click corners on the map to get to stereo-images of the corner.

Vain



Where is that track and was it an old F1 track?


Also i would like to see old nurbering in, a spechaly designed karting track for MRT and something like brands hatch, good course with plenty of different corners and hills, also mabe a few more rally courses?:shrug:

[Vain]

That was the Südschleife. The Nordschleife's less known brother. It was considerably smaller and located just south of it (they shared the start/finish straight), so still in the same area with it's challanging elevation changes. There were a few big races on it, but the track was later destroyed in favor of the new Nürburgring Grand Prix track.

Vain

[James Montgomery]

god i should have known that:(

Thx for info though:thumb:

[Ndru]

Personally I would like to see a track based on a centre of a real city (street grid) which would allow free roam and say racers vs cops action. True - i am a NFS player - but that doesn't give you the in car feeling. I am a 3d artist myself and could help developing such a track. For me the best places to copy would be either London or Stockholm.

[xpjames]

Proper Top Gear track

[Qgal5kap]

I want something nasty and dangerous !
Some japanese Touge style tracks, and some crazy mountain roads.
Something like Pikes Peak, where we can run the nasty cars!! Even pikes peak reversed would kick ass!

It's hard to say what would be a really good addition though,
there are so many different people with different ideas of what is fun.
Myself I can't stand the F1 style tracks with wide roads and large corners,
while I know many others do.

I think a good idea is to segment the game off a bit, into race, drift, drag, cop&robbers etc... I think this should be implemented into the multiplayer server list as filters.

Then develop speciffic tracks and maps for each segment.
Maybe a city map for cop&robbers. Race and drift go pretty much hand in hand track wise, but I want a bunch of twisty, narrow tracks for drifting purposes. Several airfield layouts for drag, and creating own layouts, as well as purpose built drag stadiums. We would need some good WRC rally courses for the ppl who like off road. Snow would be kewl, for use with studded tires.

For detail on the tracks themselves, I'd like a tad more realism, like wet spots,
uneven surfaces, varying asphalt quality stuff like that! Like another person said, even places where the course has "rubbered in".

[josealb777]

NORDSCHLEIFE NORDSCHLEIFE, this one would be the best LFS addition... it would suits as a long track, and as a real one, like we say in Spain this way we "kill two birds in a shoot" (matamos dos pajaros de un tiro) :thumb:

[Ju-Dazz]

i would really like to see a norwergian valley style track with lots of elevation changes, dangerous bends, and just enough space for two cars to pass.
i would say it will be a life saver for me, so i won't die racing on these roads in real life :eclipseeh

[lizardfolk]

I'd like to see a winter track :D

[h3adbang3r]

Daytona FTW (both oval and road course configurations)

[StableX]

laguna Seca for one.

[Michel 4AGE]

Nuernbergring Nürschliefe :tilt:
Laguna seca
Virginia Int.
Willow Springs
Tsukuba

etc. etc.

[lizardfolk]

Talladega!!!!! Multiple drafting lanes FTW!!!!

[Hankstar]

Every sodding track in the entire world FTW.

[dawesdust_12]

I Want To Race Around The Block That Hank Lives! Drive Into His Garage As A Pit Stall! Its An Amazing Idea!

[Hankstar]

My street's a no-through-road but I'm sure my neighbours won't mind if you use their kids' bedrooms as a short cut.

Oh, and [insert track name]shouty shouty shout shout!!!1shiftONEeleventy!1

[AstroBoy]

Hmm what track would i like to see.

Sandown Raceway
Bathurst
Melbourne GP
Calder Park
Lol hell even a sprint race from certian Melbourne Areas i know quite biast towards where i live :P
Bathurst
Symmonsplains
Sepang
Hockemhein (sorry for the incorrect spelling)
Tsukuba
Laguna Seca
Cleaveland Raceway
Las Vagas Speedway
Magny Cour
Perinize Mountians
Ect.

Lol ill just leave it at that, theres a fair few that i would like to see but so far i like the tracks that are in LFS even if they do get a tad repetative sometimes but with diffrent people comes diffrent race enviroments.

[Linsen]

I've compiled a small list of a couple of racetracks for the Scaviers to have a guideline. Just to lighten the workload, you know.

List 1 (http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Category:Tracks)

And since that one is a little USA-biased, here's another one:

List 2 (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Motorsport-Rennstrecken)

Those are just the ones that need implementation asap, preferably in the next patch, but I could wait till Z if neccessary.

[Chrisuu01]

Maybe a nioce roud track somewhere in the alpine moutains that would be one hel of an excperience in a Fox ore F08

like sjattering that nice peaceful silence by screeaming engines

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XTq2MyWLjiU

Like this for exsample

[Travis Rowe01]

if you want a stright line get a drag racing simulator:D

[jwardy]

Castle combe race circuit , and a infinity drag so u can get to top speed

[The Very End]

laguna Seca for one.

Agree with you on that.
And I also have to agree, it would be fun with a bigger oval, so agree with the one that suggestion Tallegate (right spelled?)

[Jax_KiBez]

One track i really want to see in LFS, is Finnish track called Ahvenisto.

Wonderful and challenging track, i think most of LFS drivers would love it too.

http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Ahvenisto Here is the layout

http://www.ftcc.fi/content/fi/1/24/24.html Another pic of layout

http://www.ahvenistonfanisivut.com/ahvenistovideot/Sport200019972osa.wmv And here is video from Ahvenisto and class is FTCC in year 1997. It gives quite good look of the track.

http://www.racingimages.fi/rata-sm-media/index.php?t=gal&id=7 And finally many pictures from this years FTCC race weekend.

[Chrisuu01]

Whel what kindoff siprises me that no one mansoins the Suzuka track

Caus it has a long grand prix trach a club track and a 3rd one so it would suit quite nicely

wouldn't it
Aldo it is in alot of games so me myself had quite enough of susuka

just thought is was strange no said it beforehttp://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Suzuka

[Gnarkill013]

Some tracks wich would suit (future) LFS cars never hurt ^^

My list

- A big/bigger rally track, a must imo
- A track wich could suit a possible S3, V8 Supercar.. Many curves, one straight part?
- A track losely based on the VW test track? :scratchch
- And last, something i've seen in some other posts, a track suitable for the FO8.

[bass4usall]

Any new track would be welcome!

I've run every possible combo in LFS and I need more!!

Check my stats! http://www.lfsforum.net/images/icons/icon14.gif

[alland44]

Personally, I'd like to see an extremely long straightaway. Not only would it be fun to hit maximum high speeds, but sometimes when I get bored, I go to the dragstrip and pretend I'm driving on the street - with AI cars being regular people driving along (think GTI vs. FZR). Then I watch the replays and see how insanely quick I accelerate past them or how big of a lead I can catch them on. Good fun. (Oh, and forget I said this, but a straightaway would be PERFECT for playing with LFSTweak) :shhh:

Better like the old Le Mans configuration, with an insane long straigth :)

We need an endurane track. A long track, with no death traps, and a loooooong straigth !

[alland44]

Any new track would be welcome!

I've run every possible combo in LFS and I need more!!

Check my stats! http://www.lfsforum.net/images/icons/icon14.gif

I can second to that, but he asked, what do YOU want to see :)

[alland44]

NORDSCHLEIFE NORDSCHLEIFE, this one would be the best LFS addition... it would suits as a long track, and as a real one, like we say in Spain this way we "kill two birds in a shoot" (matamos dos pajaros de un tiro) :thumb:

I thougth it was the Maltesians, who enjoyed killing birds :(

[Taylor Finger]

how about bonneville salt flats, and some twisting mountain roads. Also, how about a REALLY tight and tricky track, and some good preset autoX's. theres not much autoX going around, but i know there are some people into it( includieng me). Heres an idea: Have a city/town track thing(like nfsu2 but more like a smaller town with country roads and highways and stuff like that(and dont get me wrong, i dont like nfs either, but i love having open roads to cruise on, and it would b cool to have sumthin like TDU but with realistic physics and real car guys, not just kids). It could get bigger with every update, and there would be rain, snow and all that fun stuff, according to the season and time. Tell me if yu think that would b cool, ive always wanted sumthin like that. :D:D:D:D

[Taylor Finger]

oh and a hillclimb:thumb:

[Matt0snap]

Not sure if this has already been said, too lazy to read whole thread :P

I would love a track like this: http://www.naturallightphotography.org/images/nature/down-road-w-trees-&-fog-sm.jpg

A fast track but with no stupidly long straights. A bunch of slight turns and maybe even a rallycross track crossing over the road.

This track does have a few problems....such as if you spin out, you are out of the race. And if people have the trees turned off, then this track would look kind of bland :razz:

[jwardy]

1 good hill climb is prescott hill in gloucester

[MIDWINTER]

im not that fussed what tracks just aslong as they are real ones:thumb: that are popular so that most people will know them for example laguna seca, suzuka, silverstone etc just aslong as they arent made up anymore...........:nod:

[The Very End]

When we are talking about hillclimb tracks - is it possible to drive multiple cars on them? Or is it like a rally stage where 1 and 1 car is racing?

If that`s so -1 from me.
LFS is about racing, not hot laping on public servers :/

[Flotch]

When we are talking about hillclimb tracks - is it possible to drive multiple cars on them? Or is it like a rally stage where 1 and 1 car is racing?

If that`s so -1 from me.
LFS is about racing, not hot laping on public servers :/
it should be possible to code ghosts in LFS, so everyone could drive together on a rally stage :scratchch without having a m*r*n crashing you at the first hairpin :D
But, as a simulator, starts every 2 minutes should be better :p

[mikheil]

i wuld like to see in s3 tracks with rain, snow and more difrent times such as night
i think drifting at night is cool and nice

[jwardy]

When we are talking about hillclimb tracks - is it possible to drive multiple cars on them? Or is it like a rally stage where 1 and 1 car is racing?

If that`s so -1 from me.
LFS is about racing, not hot laping on public servers :/
i think if we have a hill climb or a rally were its 1 car we have what lfs did during the lx month were everyone is queued .

[Dajmin]

When we are talking about hillclimb tracks - is it possible to drive multiple cars on them? Or is it like a rally stage where 1 and 1 car is racing?

If that`s so -1 from me.
LFS is about racing, not hot laping on public servers :/Presumably there'd need to be an option to have it rallycross style or with "proper" rally starts.

It'd be kinda interesting to have them with a couple of minute staggered start, but that time would need to scale to fit the amount of time players are willing to wait. Because there's no real danger in the sim version, 30 secs or 1 min might be enough to keep them out of each other's way for the course (unless you get really unlucky).

Reinstalling RBR has ignited my old passion for rally driving, and I'd love to see it in LFS :)

[The Very End]

I like the idea of rallycross-like hillclimb, but the ghost car thingy is a -1 from me. I like there is possible to make contact, not to crash but the contact itself. With a better crash detection system it would be great fun with rallycross :)

[pigi]

just some mountain road. Uphill and downhill.
If Eric will make somthing interesting i thing it will be cool to see his fantasy in track like stock road in mountains.

1 big track where are all track we have and new tracks.

[johnmcaulay]

It'd be great to have a fairly long (10 to 20 miles) road loop, set in the Scottish Highlands.

[The Very End]

Road loop?
Isn`t a loop something like what you find in a rollercoaster o_O ?

[Primoz]

Yes, it normally is, but this time he meant a circle, a course not 'A to B'.

[MAE_2007]

A rally track in memory of the Rally-Hero Colin McRae ?

[The Very End]

Ahh, I get it, sorry :shy:
You know, I have a rather small ...god damn whats the name for it? Vocoability? No wtf, what I mean - I don`t know many english word, so often it is hard to ecpress myself.

[Blackout]

Ahh, I get it, sorry :shy:
You know, I have a rather small ...god damn whats the name for it? Vocoability? No wtf, what I mean - I don`t know many english word, so often it is hard to ecpress myself.
Vocabulary.

[DrBen]

It'd be great to have a fairly long (10 to 20 miles) road loop, set in the Scottish Highlands.

That would be wonderful to have one or two additional track environments featuring narrow, twisty and bumpy real-world tarmac.

Another thing that buggs me is, that all the current

track environments in lfs are more or less very plain and repetetive. Maybe that is just me thinking like this because lfs is merely the only "game" i continously play all the time.

Fact is: i am desperate for some more tracks, much more than after new cars!!
Especially some more touring car circuits would really add up to the sim. For me the only track environment worth racing with standard road cars is fern bay. All other tracks, even the beloved blackwood are far too wide for my liking and lack in variety of flavour concerning their corners.
What makes blackwood more interesting again after a long time owning my S2-license
is that there is actually one corner that doesn't bend down to it's inner side.

I think we need more touring car competition -like tracks, or at least one where is no more space available than for 2 cars and thus giving back the joy when racing the smaller cars.

Well then, enough for now - or i'll glue on to my keyboard even more(...)

Greets [D-R-T] DrBen

[The Very End]

That would be wonderful to have one or two additional track environments featuring narrow, twisty and bumpy real-world tarmac.

Another thing that buggs me is, that all the current

track environments in lfs are more or less very plain and repetetive. Maybe that is just me thinking like this because lfs is merely the only "game" i continously play all the time.

Fact is: i am desperate for some more tracks, much more than after new cars!!
Especially some more touring car circuits would really add up to the sim. For me the only track environment worth racing with standard road cars is fern bay. All other tracks, even the beloved blackwood are far too wide for my liking and lack in variety of flavour concerning their corners.
What makes blackwood more interesting again after a long time owning my S2-license
is that there is actually one corner that doesn't bend down to it's inner side.

I think we need more touring car competition -like tracks, or at least one where is no more space available than for 2 cars and thus giving back the joy when racing the smaller cars.

Well then, enough for now - or i'll glue on to my keyboard even more(...)

Greets [D-R-T] DrBen

I`ll agree with you.
What LFS need is some norrow tracks with tricky corners, that put`s the drivers on a test.
The current track, as you say, is too wide and you can go like 5-6 cars wide if you want..

[Zigma]

Ahh, I get it, sorry :shy:
You know, I have a rather small ...god damn whats the name for it? Vocoability? No wtf, what I mean - I don`t know many english word, so often it is hard to ecpress myself.

its hard to be a "nissemann" :D

[The Very End]

its hard to be a "nissemann" :D

Oh ROFL xD

Well...ain`t easy to be me sometimes. :shrug:

And rallycross cars ftw aswell, the good old ones from the 80`s and 90`s, not todays FWD crap things :tilt:

[NSX_FReeDoM]

any1 watch Top Gear Season 10 Episode 1???

i want that second last twisty mountain road in italy(or switzerland cant remember)

[jwardy]

any1 watch Top Gear Season 10 Episode 1???

i want that second last twisty mountain road in italy(or switzerland cant remember)

yes yes yes yummy yes yes yes yummy what ? it was in switzerland and yes that is a track to have

[NSX_FReeDoM]

yes yes yes yummy yes yes yes yummy what ? it was in switzerland and yes that is a track to have
cant remember where it is but yeh u know wat i mean..:nod:

[Primoz]

As far as i know, Stelvio is in Italy. Am i wrong? And the load of hairpins is actually quite boring. Ga, brake, steer and repeate. That 'ordinary' road up from Davos in the bottom of a big valley was much better. loads of different corners. But sadly i can't really see it in LFS since that's a lot more suited for a rally sim.

[jwardy]

cant remember where it is but yeh u know wat i mean..:nod:

yes i can but it wot be the same doing it in a xfg compared to a lamborghini gallardo

[FCR01]

Bathurst!!!!

[hectic]

Bathurst!!!! Only if there are kangaroos which can run onto track and beer cans to throw at any fords.

[flymike91]

I'm a drifter, and I'd like to see a multi-level parking garage to drift in. The setups could be really cool and of course it would include ramps like this http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/the_fast_and_the_furious__tokyo_drift/tokyodrift_garage.jpg

[Chrisuu01]

any1 watch Top Gear Season 10 Episode 1???

i want that second last twisty mountain road in italy(or switzerland cant remember)


Yeah i want it you mean the one put on just one mountain oree the more open road?

Caus they both look realy great for driving experience:thumb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXio61cDWAI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWuFLr6FMl0&NR=1

OMFG i jost spotted nearly naked james!! in the last movie the flaw of having no airco (me trying to not faint)

[Stefani24]

I wanna see the ns and and a blackw00d version without the chicane (maybe called indy), coz im alwayss ruining my supsensioo there or i flip.

[The Very End]

I wanna see the ns and and a blackw00d version without the chicane (maybe called indy), coz im alwayss ruining my supsensioo there or i flip.

Actually that would be a good idea, to have a layout where you could drive over the chicane. But then the straight would be redicilous long, but +1 from me tho.
But it would need to be standar BL track, just without the chicane, and that is a pretty little thing so you couldn`t call it a new track :/

[Chrisuu01]

Whel i stil want the blackwood with the trees:shy:

And that top gear mointain road wolald rock not that we coudl drive it with 32 cars simoltainiously that would be the noob crash party of the century with lotsa cars trough the purnigates(ON FIRE!!)

so that woudl be our rally stage then maybe?/:shrug:(it wil also keep drifters happy)that is when they dont go trough the purnigates(ON FIRE!!)

[Ondra_CZ]

Hi everyone,

i d like to ask if its possible to put Nordschleife track to S3, I m quite sure somebody has allready asked. :)

[zeugnimod]

Yes, somebody has.

http://www.lfsforum.net/search.php?searchid=1499701

[The Very End]

Lol, yes only some :razz:
But actually, I don`t belive I ever have seen that track, so I don`t understand why it is so big fuzz about it, is it THAT good as people say it is?

[Primoz]

It's the green hell, over 20 kilometers per lap, about 7 minutes in a fast car, depends on the configuration (short Nürburgring or long or none even - Tourist version which you can drive in a road car), it is the most demanding track in the world, the tarmac is horrible in places, it's bumpy, narrow sometimes, basicly the ultimate test for a car's speed in a lap.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5134783972546535075 - for me, the best Nordschleife onboard video EVER.

[The Very End]

I don`t think that would be any fun. Too long, you would need to be like 100 cars to not drive alone all times lol.
Maybe fun with maxed servers, but it would in the end just be lonely and borring in LFS.

[tristancliffe]

Too long, too narrow, and not really the ultimate vehicle testing ground at all - 90% of cars that get honed there turn out to be rubbish on the road (or, at least, not as good as hyped).

It's a REALLY good track for doing some laps on in real life. But none of the fear, difficulty or complexity ever comes across in a game/sim. Massively overrated.

Everyone that wants it should go and drive it in real life - it's the only way to get the impression of it.

It would suck in LFS. Just like it sucks in every other game after a couple of laps.

[The Very End]

Agree.
As I said, too long. Just look on FE black, nobody seems to drive that, because it`s too long. Lol think of this track then, it would take like 4 times longer to drive, there would be no way in hell anyone could mastered all the corners on that track, as some people do on the track in LFS now.
Increas max players to 100, then we can have that track.

[Flotch]

I would drive it, np

[Aquilifer]

(about Nordschleife)
It's not too long imho. It might be too long for sprint races and many of the pick-up races people like to drive online. But that's just because many are so lazy they prefer driving thousands of laps at simple (and boring) tracks like AS2. If it is bit longer they are scared omg I can't learn all the corners by heart during one evening. I like long tracks like Fe black and Ky GP.

In long races and leagues it would be good (online). Also offline. I don't care if I drive 5 laps at a long track or 50 at a short one. It's just good if there is no problem with blue flagged drivers. Most of the excitement comes from the fact that you can't master it so easily. It would need little patience to wait for the right moment to try overtake.

Sure it's not so wide as modern tracks and it is bumpy too, but in that way it is not so different from South city. If there was a track editor in LFS and nobody else was making it I would try to do it.

[sinbad]

I would drive it, np

Me too. I'd settle for an imitation, but I think it would be great to have something like that. Pick up races might only be two laps, but who cares? I get at least a slight satisfaction/pleasure from driving many of LFS's tracks "well", and I can only imagine a long narrow, hilly, bumpy, twisty, "dangerous" track would be that multiplied a few times. Plus, although you might not have race after race of door to door pack racing, the occasions when you do have a good one would be memorable.

[Chrisuu01]

Whel i think it would be a hit for about a week ,

then it wil be treated as fernbay black and nearly no one wil drive on it

So i say its unwise to do it look at what kind of useful stuf the DEFS could make in the time it takes to make one Green hell:scratchch

[The Very End]

Whel i think it would be a hit for about a week ,

then it wil be treated as fernbay black and nearly no one wil drive on it

So i say its unwise to do it look at what kind of useful stuf the DEFS could make in the time it takes to make one Green hell:scratchch

You saying something there.
Just to make the track would probally take a hell of a lot time, due to the big size of it. And a other thing, I belive the LFS system wouldn`t handle that big tracks eighter, would be too big to load, or it would load but it probally would take minutes to load.

[Chrisuu01]

You saying something there.
Just to make the track would probally take a hell of a lot time, due to the big size of it. And a other thing, I belive the LFS system wouldn`t handle that big tracks eighter, would be too big to load, or it would load but it probally would take minutes to load.


I totaly agree i think its just a waste of time i would like to see it but there is in my eyes just no point in making it:shrug:

Heel of a long load time most of pc would say To many physics objects
caus lets face it not evryone has bucketloads of money:smileypul(including me)

I say that making that top gear road is even a better idea:schwitz:
Losta cars flying into the deep valeey haha for that track the maximum number would be like 4 cars on the track at same time
and like ten 15 second waiting til netxt to cars can leave the start.

so turns aut could be cool but could also be a failrure like having the crash party of the century:razz:

[janwolf]

I would love something like Cadwell Park and of course a long hill track (for example Nordschleife; I know the performance is a problem);)

Here is a video of Cadwell it is really cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcGqGq4e2M&NR=1

Jan

[John Leonhardt]

Has there been any discussion as to the ability to add more tracks?

The "RING" or Green Hell or whatever you want to call it is my favorite track. I would probably spend the rest of my 'days' just driving all of these cool cars on that track.

[AstroBoy]

Id like to see my local race track :D
Calder Park, with the Oval Road and drag strip. It has everything there its a perfect track :D

[silline15]

I think it would be fun to drift in a parking garage like in tokyo drift and on a citycourse with normal traffic

[G!NhO]

I think it would be fun to drift in a parking garage like in tokyo drift and on a citycourse with normal traffic

Go play NFS, you fool!!!! :arge:

[silline15]

I hate NFS it turned from an awesome game into an annoying one
Whats your problem exatly, just because LFS is a simulator ?
I just said it would be cool and lets say these tracks are avilable;
u don't have to use them

[aroX123]

Future Westhill!!!!!! Rahhhh!

[rockclan]

Future Westhill!!!!!! Rahhhh!


AW MAI GAAAAAWD , now that would one heck of an awesome track.:thumb:

[MudPuppy]

A RallyCross option within each major track complex would restore some much needed, but presently absent, balance.:smileypul

[The Very End]

A RallyCross option within each major track complex would restore some much needed, but presently absent, balance.:smileypul

Rally Pack?!

I agree so much on that. Every track enviroment should have at least one rallycross track, would improve LFS a lot IMO :)

[Weasley123]

Really? A rallycross track on South City would be pretty weird, unless it's on some sort of construction site or something.

I'll probably get blown to peices for this but a Dual Carrigeway or Motorway track would be nice, a ring road, that is. Let's say it would be shortened down to about 10 miles, it'd make a good Cruise Server as well as a nice Drag strip thing and a place to test the cars top speed if a proper tuning program replaces LFSTweak.

[Weasley123]

Or perhaps Carlswood NT from Racer, don't believe there are any tracks with tunnels on from LFS it could be pretty fun. Then again it's no Grand Prix track or anything it's more of a little narrow test track thing.

[The Very End]

Hehe, I am not going to oblirate you for telling your opinion :p

Monaco would be pretty darn nice, since that is a town circut and has a tunnel aswell, +1 for tunnels in LFS.

Well, maybe South City wouldn't need a rallycross track, but Aston/Westhill could need / use one :)

[aroX123]

+1 for tunnels in LFS.
Aheem:smileypul
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=48902

[The Very End]

Bloody awesome! :D
But look at this haha, something is quite fun with the voting (look attachment, not editet).

[brandons48]

i was JUST looking at that in the actual thread!!

:Looking_a

[soarer]

If these havn't been mentioned, then Bathurst Australia, it really is an awesome track that goes up around and down a mountain and secondary Phillip Island which is a nice flowing track with a 5th gear right hander at the end of the straight.

http://www.mount-panorama.com/
http://www.phillipislandcircuit.com.au/

[jrd.racer]

Circuit de la Sarthe
meybe it had been mentioned!

[add38]

Nürburgring please !!! :D

[Ivo Georgiev]

+1 for the Blackwood without the chicane. It would really require more setup compromise with the Formula BMW. I would also like some other configurations of Blackwood. Maybe a tilke-style loop/chicane in the middle of the straight. Just kidding, but a new configuration would be really nice.

[blakehoo88]

Maybe a tilke-style loop/chicane in the middle of the straight.

yeah i would enjoy that alot

[ToxicKlay]

I just want a regular city, with intersections.

Will help the youngin's to learn how to drive (kinda)

[Liquid Li0n]

I want an A to B track, like this beautiful mountain pass:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stelvio_Pass

[Gegry1992]

i want long track

[Sir moi 407]

I want Rockingham! :)

[MKR]

BATHURST :thumbsup:

Take a look a Giz's shootout lap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1U1xBnRtsw

And some pics :)

[hsvdt]

BATHURST :thumbsup:

Take a look a Giz's shootout lap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1U1xBnRtsw

And some pics :)
+1:)
BATHURST or Queensland Raceway a.k.a The paperclip

[MKR]

:zombie::zombie:+1:)
BATHURST or Queensland Raceway a.k.a The paperclip


Eww why QRwould have to one of the worst tracks of the season

[rockclan]

Bloody awesome! :D
But look at this haha, something is quite fun with the voting (look attachment, not editet).


A moderator did that you know ? :D