24mbit Broadband for £24/month! I want it!

[Tweaker]

Geez, that is about $42 buckaroos, exactly what I spend for highspeed cable :Looking_a

http://money.guardian.co.uk/internetcosts/story/0,12769,1578645,00.html

From this company: http://www.bethere.co.uk/

UK only it seems. But the trend will catch on all over I'll bet.

[L(Oo)ney]

Shame i cant get it, as im currrently paying £30 a month for my 2mb line.

We have our own telephone company, which owns the lines, and are not allowing anyone else to use them (ie - BT, ntl ect), forcing us to use them, or have no internet.

Basically, they have a monopoly here, so they can charge wtf they want. :mad:

[Tweaker]

Grrrr, that sucks. Was the same situation with me too in my area up until 2005.

[danowat]

I too pay £30 for a 2mb line, I would be VERY warey of this new service as

a) it isnt actually up and running yet

b) it isnt going to be nationwide

c) they are going to have "fair usage limits", which ALWAYS means you will be using to much bandwidth unless you are a very light user.

The good news is that the monopoly will be no more as soon as more and more local exchanges are "unbundled" and ISP's can offer a "complete" service without using any of BT's lines.

Dan.

[the_angry_angel]

Just to let you know, Be isnt the only people doing this.

I believe Pipex have something like this going on, Telewest are upgrading their entire system (those on the elite will soon get 10Mbit/sec down, but all plans will still have a shitty upload).

Also I believe Be were naught - stealing Bulldog's TOS. Norteh.

[danowat]

Just to let you know, Be isnt the only people doing this.

I believe Pipex have something like this going on, Telewest are upgrading their entire system (those on the elite will soon get 10Mbit/sec down, but all plans will still have a shitty upload).

Also I believe Be were naught - stealing Bulldog's TOS. Norteh.

Yes, there are lots of things going on right now, 8mb on normal ADSL will be standard very soon, also uploads will become 768k as opposed to the 256k we now have, and as you say the cable companies have already started rolling out 10mb, I wonder how much extra bandwidth our already choked telecoms system can take.

LLU is going to do great things :).

[the_angry_angel]

I know for a fact that the telewest system can sustain 10Mbit/sec up and down per street/main fibre in my area. God knows what the exchange gets hammered with.

As for anything over copper - not sure. It really cant be much more :( But then it is a ludicriously outdated system.

[danowat]

It is, not to mention some of the god-awfull aluminium wiring that some households have, which in some case won't sustain broadband at all.

I doubt we will see a big overhaul from BT for a while yet, although I did hear of them doing some fibre-optic re-cabling recently.

Trouble with cable is its not that widely available, outside of Norwich I know that pretty much the whole county of Norfolk cant get cable.

Dan.

[AndyC]

Ye, knew about this site a while ago but it isn't going to get going until 06. Might be worth a look then. But like its been said many other companies are going in the same direction. I believe plus.net are going the same way (without looking).

Hopefully they'll come soon but I still think the upload speed will be limited to a poor speed, no more than 1 mb/s I guess.

Andy.

[Madman_CZ]

i pay £25 for 8mb maybe ill upgrade as i live in uk.... :P

[tristancliffe]

Freedom2surf are rolling out both 8Mbit and 24Mbit services in the near future. 8Mbit is active (depending on your exchange, obviously), and 24 is trialling in certain areas (which ones, I don't know).

[Bob Smith]

Yeah I read about ADSL2+ a few weeks ago. The 24Mbit is the line limit, I read that 18Mbit was typically the sort of speeds you could expect. IIRC there are two companies doing trial runs of the product at the moment.

[kevin_vikkerman]

They have the same here in Holland, 20mbit for 20 euro's / month, but i can't get it either, about 90% of holland cant get it, and plus i heard some rumours about it that it won't even reach it's full 20mbit. some people say you get about 10mbit in with it.
Well i didn't test it yet, so i have no proof of that. And it could only be in Holland

[nikimere]

i'm confused...

i have a 2MB (MegaByte) connection. If there are 8 bits in a byte does that mean i have 16MBit line? :confused:
could anyone clear this up for me?

[Blackout]

20 mbit 20 euros! Im paying 33 € for 1/512 line...oh well, long distances and small amount of people on large area makes it expensive :(

and 24£ is only 35 € :Eyecrazy: I would like to have that 24 line too...

[danowat]

i'm confused...

i have a 2MB (MegaByte) connection. If there are 8 bits in a byte does that mean i have 16MBit line? :confused:
could anyone clear this up for me?

No, a 2MB line is 2048k, therefore download speebs of 256kb/s, a 24MB line would be 24,576k, therefore download at 3,072kb/s.

I wish they would'nt use all these differing bits, bytes rubbish and standardize the way speed is described, its almost as confusing for people as HDD size, if I had a £1 for everytime someone asked why a 100GB HDD isnt really 100GB's I would be a very rich man.

Dan.

[ORION]

i'm confused...

i have a 2MB (MegaByte) connection. If there are 8 bits in a byte does that mean i have 16MBit line? :confused:
could anyone clear this up for me?
If you can download with 2000kb/s, then yes

Man, why do all guys who are not from Germany have like 1000kTMb line and pay even less for it :faint2:

[nikimere]

No, a 2MB line is 2048k, therefore download speebs of 256kb/s, a 24MB line would be 24,576k, therefore download at 3,072kb/s.

I wish they would'nt use all these differing bits, bytes rubbish and standardize the way speed is described, its almost as confusing for people as HDD size, if I had a £1 for everytime someone asked why a 100GB HDD isnt really 100GB's I would be a very rich man.

Dan.

so there is no difference between 2 MegaByte and 2 MegaBit??

[Bob Smith]

so there is no difference between 2 MegaByte and 2 MegaBit??
ADSL is always measured in bits and not bytes.

[dUmAsS]

i'm confused...

i have a 2MB (MegaByte) connection. If there are 8 bits in a byte does that mean i have 16MBit line? :confused:
could anyone clear this up for me?


you dont have a 2mbyte line, you have a 2mbit line ;)

[Kegetys]

I'd rather have better upstream speeds, 24Mbps download with 1Mbps upload is quite ridiculous...

so there is no difference between 2 MegaByte and 2 MegaBit??

One byte (B) is eight bits (b).

[nikimere]

you dont have a 2mbyte line, you have a 2mbit line ;)
cool, thanks for clearing that one up

[keiran]

My ISP (http://www.e7even.com) are going to be opening a few more plans to.

Just noticed prices have dropped can't wait to renew and pay £13 a month for 1mb :D can't get 2mb where I live :( Pitty as it's only an extra £2 a month.

Keiran

[nikimere]

@ Kegetys:

...If there are 8 bits in a byte...
got that one earlier ;)

[ORION]

But the problem is that most people dont care if it's B or b :)
many write "kb" when they mean kilobyte, simply because they are too lazy to press Shift just for one Character :P

To test your connection speed it's always a goos idea to download a file from a fast server and see what you got. Maybe you have paid for more than you actually have.

[96 GTS]

*Sigh* In my dorm here at school, I get 5Mbit up and down, and yes, that's real speed, I see download speeds of 3000-3500kb/s. And you're probably asking why I don't host an LFS server, I tried. The ResNet administrators shut off the ports of anyone who gets caught hosting a game server, and I got caught. Stuck on wireless for a week was torture. It's such a shame to see all that beautiful upload speed going to waste. Ah well, it's school administrators, what can you do....

[mist350]

ISDN is the future. Streaming video and sound ! Download a whole floppy disks' worth of files in under 2 minutes !

[nikimere]

ISDN is the future. Streaming video and sound ! Download a whole floppy disks' worth of files in under 2 minutes !
For those of you who dont know what a Floppy Disc is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy_disk ;) :p

[freebaSe]

computing has a tradition of notation where bits are always written with a small 'b' and bytes with a capital 'B'

The nominator should always be in caps :

Kb = Kilobit (1024 bits)
KB = Kilobyte (1024 Bytes or 1 KB)
Mb = Megabit (1024 KB)
Gb = Gigabit (1024 Mb)
GB = Gigabyte (1024MB)
etc.

and of course with 8 bits (and 2 nybbles) to a byte.
Hope this helps :)

[Gunn]

Many ISPs throttle the upload bandwidth to discourage their customers from running web servers or game servers. The new revolution in broadband won't neccessarily mean better upload bandwidth for account holders, our ISPs will decide. :(

[(NOZ)RockyZ]

45USD dollar for a 4MB connection, yes its crazy, and the really stupid thing is they cap our upload speeds at 765/kbs.

If we add another 10USD(per month) we can get a 6MB connection with like 1MB of upload...if only I lived in the UK....

[marsden1002]

Shame i cant get it, as im currrently paying £30 a month for my 2mb line.

We have our own telephone company, which owns the lines, and are not allowing anyone else to use them (ie - BT, ntl ect), forcing us to use them, or have no internet.

Basically, they have a monopoly here, so they can charge wtf they want. :mad:


Im paying £25 for a 2mb line from NTL. Heard roomers this is going up to around 8 MB by Xmas - :)

[JamesF1]

...Floppy Disc...

No, not Disc - Disk :p
"Disk" is short for "Diskette" which was intended to sound like cassette :) It was/is used for the typical 3.5in floppies and the older 5.75in floppies (amongst other disks).

"Disc" denotes something circular and flattened in profile. As such it is used for stuff like Mini-Disc, Compact Disc, Digital Versatile Disc, etc. - all of which are circular :)

[Ryanry64]

Im paying £25 for a 2mb line from NTL. Heard roomers this is going up to around 8 MB by Xmas - :)

If you're on 3 mb with NTL they will be upgrading you to 10mb before Xmas, but I'm pretty sure the other speeds will have to wait till next year, don't quote me on that though ;)

[franky500]

NTL is just the northern version of Telewest Blueyonder.. I am on blueyonder and by the new year some time (according to telewest) iwill be able to get the 10mb line. thats with 367kb upload or something like that.. but its the no limits that make it worth it. on 1mb right now so i will go to 4mb for free. and only £10 more per month for 10mb.. i think the minimum speed they are gonna do from the new year is 2mb. good prices too.

[Ryanry64]

I'm from hampshire, and I can't get blueyonder..It's pretty annoying to be honest :(

[vpr01]

UK-Online are also going to be doing a very similar 24mbit service. It all comes with ADSL2. Cable companies, such as ntl and Telewest will be maxing out DOCSIS2 protocols with 10meg lines to compete, but will also be layering DOCSIS3 once the upgrade is done, to further increse speeds.

With the new protocols comes new speed! Its the dawn of the internet 2 so to speak.

To be honest, I'm with quite a few people here in having faster upload speeds as opposed to faster download. Id rather stay at 2meg and have my upload increased to 1meg than go on to 10meg when ntl release it to the masses.

And FYI, BT are testing fibre optic broadband in certain areas of the UK, offering 100mb up and down for those lucky enough to be involved in the testing. Shame its only for another 6 months or so.

[STROBE]

NTL is just the northern version of Telewest Blueyonder..
No it's not - until the recent merger it was a much larger rival to TW, serving approximately (iirc) three times as many customers as TW.

I'm on TW myself - still awaiting my free upgrade from 1meg to 4meg, but should be soon. :D

[Stellios]

Well, theres been a ot of complaints about BE recently. people are registering with them and they are not connecting people, then when you go to cancel there telephone lines are constantly engaged.

They dont appear to be getting very good feedback at all.

Also, you have to be close to your telephone exchange to get the full 24mb, it is predicted that most peopel will get between 12 and 15mb speeds due to distance between the exchange and the house, and the quality of the telephone line.

Feel sorry for all those on Blueyonder. My mates with them and dreading it since NTL bought them out due to NTLs stupid download caps.

[Lible]

Heh, payng about 13 pounds here for 48 KB/s both up and download.

[P5YcHoM4N]

Pish, forget cables. I want new Broadballon.

Linkage (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4354446.stm).

120mb :o

[franky500]

Feel sorry for all those on Blueyonder. My mates with them and dreading it since NTL bought them out due to NTLs stupid download caps.

there is no download caps on Blueyonder or NTL (speaking as a Blueyonder customer with many NTL Friends up north)

[operator0]

Wireless is the future. It may be shitty now with not very good coverage (for those with city wide coverage), but you can bet that once it gets rolled out in a national campaign, it will quickly improve. In five years we're all going to be laughing at how backwards we were back in the days of hard wires. Not only will raw speed be better, but latency will be improved also.

[snewham]

rumours are that BT is going 8mb as well..

[P5YcHoM4N]

there is no download caps on Blueyonder or NTL (speaking as a Blueyonder customer with many NTL Friends up north)
Yes there is, and has been for some time. Only they are only really inforced on people who have 1mb, with 1gb(or was it three, I forget) a month, everyone else gets 30gb a month, but currently NTL over look it, but are planning a pay as you go bandwidth system (saw it on the inquirer). Not sure if it'll ever happen though.

[dUmAsS]

rumours are that BT is going 8mb as well..

not rumors, facts. its called maxdsl (fastest adsl can go before adsl2 comes into play, that can get up to 24mbit)

[snewham]

ahh ok someone i know works for them and he is trying it out at the moment.

[Bob Smith]

Wireless is the future. It may be shitty now with not very good coverage (for those with city wide coverage), but you can bet that once it gets rolled out in a national campaign, it will quickly improve. In five years we're all going to be laughing at how backwards we were back in the days of hard wires. Not only will raw speed be better, but latency will be improved also.
Yep. And then we'll all get brain cancer and die. And the cockroaches will live happily forever. ;)

[operator0]

Yep. And then we'll all get brain cancer and die. And the cockroaches will live happily forever. ;)

Bah, minor details. We live to long anyway ;) .

[P5YcHoM4N]

Yep. And then we'll all get brain cancer and die. And the cockroaches will live happily forever. ;)
Everything gives you cancer these days. I used to have a list of everything that can give you cancer (I got bored one day) and from that list all you can do without getting cancer is... nothing. Even some junk in the air might increase the risks of cancer :pillepall

[Rtsbasic]

Damn my line only supporting 512kbs :( BT "upgraded" my line to 1mbit in may for free, but it become very unreliable, never being able to connect. Eventually they downgraded it again, so I'm paying £35/month for a pretty slow line.

Thing is I'm hesitant to change ISP's as I don't want any download caps, and I run a streaming music server so I can access my music from college. Any recommendations? I wish NTL cable broadband was available here..

[dUmAsS]

Damn my line only supporting 512kbs :( BT "upgraded" my line to 1mbit in may for free, but it become very unreliable, never being able to connect. Eventually they downgraded it again, so I'm paying £35/month for a pretty slow line.

Thing is I'm hesitant to change ISP's as I don't want any download caps, and I run a streaming music server so I can access my music from college. Any recommendations? I wish NTL cable broadband was available here..

first, work out how much bandwidth you use a month (it normally tells you in the user area on the isp site).

nildram offer 512 at 19 a month with a 25gb cap (on peak, off peak you can use as much as you want)