LfS Spectator 2.02 for S2 released [Archive]

LuckyL

15th September 2005, 21:33

Hi everyone,

here -> http://www.triso.de/download/LfS_Spectator_2_02.zip you can get an S2 ready version of the LfS Spectator.

Changes include a new "look", smoother car movement, ability to set a frame rate (for low cpu usage or smooth graphics) and zoom out to fully visible track.

The download includes the .smx files for all tracks. As usual, please read the readme.txt before posting questions :)

Expect a minor update in a few weeks, when suggestions made in this forum can be realised.

Edit: for best visual quality (font) use fsaa for OpenGL

tristancliffe

15th September 2005, 21:49

Cool! I'll try this later, but sounds great to me. I never actually used the original version, but I heard good things about it :D

El_TaxMaN

15th September 2005, 22:22

Weee! :thumb:

tristancliffe

15th September 2005, 22:27

Tried it :D

It's great. Watching an oval race atm.

My suggestions.
1. I would like to turn off the chat and race time overlays. Is this possible?

2. Everything is in german. How about language text files so we can have English, French, Spanish...... versions, like LFS does?

Tweaker

15th September 2005, 22:34

Wow great!!!! Lots of fun to use :)

This should be stickied :D (I hope league races will let the public use this) Good job.

EDIT: There is a bug I just had when switching between servers. The player you are focused on in the first server is carried over when joining a new server. If you know what I mean... :smileypul

McAzerty

17th September 2005, 07:13

How you start that spion thing? :-p

Chris_Kerry

17th September 2005, 08:58

Maybe a little guide to explain how the thing works to. For many (including me) I haven't used previous versions of LFS spectator so am slightly confused to it's purpose and how to use it. I'm still struggling with LFS stats and thats supposed to be really easy :banghead:

LuckyL

17th September 2005, 09:16

ok, here's a small guide:

LfS Spectator lets you watch races without beeing on the actual server. You can see where people are and what they do on an upside down view of the track.

To watch the races on a certain server, this server must be registered in Victors relay server, so that the server data can be transmitted. In case you want your own Server to be watchable, you can do this here: http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=hosts&whichTab=insim_relay

Now, when you started the LfS Spectator, just click "Get Server List" to receive a list of the available servers, including the number of drivers on that server. Just select one and click "Spectate" - done.

Chris_Kerry

17th September 2005, 09:23

Pretty simple thanks for the heads up.

xaotik

17th September 2005, 09:58

Many thanks - excellent work!

Here's a skin I threw together for this with a slightly more LFS look to it.
Just unzip it in your LFS spectator installation folder.

LuckyL

17th September 2005, 11:07

cool! :)

Eldanor

17th September 2005, 11:14

Tweaker

17th September 2005, 12:18

Great work! LuckyL, I love this tool

Here goes a suggestion:

The messages and playerlist boxes are too big IMHO, when I maximize the window they take a lot of sapce, could yo make them fixed size? :)
I agree, they are very big and take a lot of space over what you are trying to see. The only way to 'kind of' avoid them it so zoom out (with keypad +/-)... but they are still in the way.

They need to be smaller, and we need to have the option to hide/show them I think. OR have the full window with the map and stuff, but have a right/left-side pane that is part of the program but not overlapping the window. Kind of like when you press CTRL+H in your browser to bring up the left-side History panel. Instead it would have all the statistics there and out of the way. :thumbsup:

Chris_Kerry

17th September 2005, 12:29

Many thanks - excellent work!

Here's a skin I threw together for this with a slightly more LFS look to it.
Just unzip it in your LFS spectator installation folder.

I have used this on my version. Gets a big :thumb: from me.

vrooom

17th September 2005, 14:53

Fanastic stuff!!!!!! i agree with chatbox and player list.. but any other from that. Its brillant!

Racedriver76

20th September 2005, 19:49

Very cool indeed! I am grateful it came out now, so I can follow my mates racing online. My pc died some weeks ago, so finally I can follow some racing again! Thanks!

McAzerty

21st September 2005, 11:01

all i get is WHITE SCREEN

bbman

21st September 2005, 11:35

It would be cool to click on a car and the camera follows the car you just clicked... :) Also, I miss some information on the servers dialogue... It would be fine if you could see, what track is being played at the moment on the server... And I couldn't see which type of car the players were driving (or maybe I'm just to stupid to see)... :D

Misko

21st September 2005, 11:41

Just a few noobish questions... ALL you need to do to get your server watchable is apply for inSim Relay on LFSW and thats it? No other configuring?

Is it possible to then use other inSim app on the server? IIRC there could be only one that connects via inSim but with relay I'm not sure.

Does it work with Demo servers as well or only S2? That is if demo servers can apply for relay at all.

thanks :)

Victor

21st September 2005, 12:12

Just a few noobish questions... ALL you need to do to get your server watchable is apply for inSim Relay on LFSW and thats it? No other configuring?

yep - you first request access to the InSim Relay setup page and then when you have access you enter the IP, InSim port nr. and the adminpass of your host. Of course you must make sure the port has been forwarded so the relay can connect to your host.

Is it possible to then use other inSim app on the server? IIRC there could be only one that connects via inSim but with relay I'm not sure.

It used to be the case and still is with current insim mods. However, it is now possible with a few modifications on the insim app's side, to connect to a host, with admin priviledges, via the relay. But the people who made those mods and who will make mods, need to provide the functionality for that to work.

Does it work with Demo servers as well or only S2? That is if demo servers can apply for relay at all.

it works for any host - even in lan mode I guess, as long as the relay can connect.

Frags

22nd September 2005, 08:59

Does it take any bandwidth from the server which is being spectated ?
Would it affect the players on ther server, if people spectates ?

Is the program getting its data from the masterserver ? Or ?

Victor

22nd September 2005, 12:03

well yes, it does take some of the host's bandwidth. It varies a lot though depending on the activity on the host. I guess you should see it as one additional racer being connected.
The MCI packets are set at an interval of twice per second. With no activity, nothing is sent and with 17+ racers in-race, 6 MCI packets are sent per second (2 * 3). Additionally race-state packets are sent for splits, laptimes and messages etc, but those are all pretty tiny packets and only sent when needed.

Victor

22nd September 2005, 18:13

hmm not sure if the cars in the attached image are indeed UF1000 (they look more like xrg)?

LuckyL

22nd September 2005, 19:15

yes, it's a bug.. thnx for poiting it out. will be gone next version :)

joshdifabio

23rd September 2005, 00:47

hmm not sure if the cars in the attached image are indeed UF1000 (they look more like xrg)?

What you talking about they are clearly uf1000s :D

Frags

23rd September 2005, 09:33

hmm not sure if the cars in the attached image are indeed UF1000 (they look more like xrg)?

:hihi: UF1000 Coupé ???

Tomi

30th September 2005, 13:42

Great tool Lucky L :)

One question though : Does it support autocross layouts and if it does not, do you plan to add the layouts + penalties (when hitting a cone or tire) support in the future ?

I'm racing in a slalom championship and it would be a great tool for us :)

Nick Bandini

5th October 2005, 08:46

Many thanks LuckyL for the great tool and thanks xaotik for the skin :thumbsup:

sil3ntwar

6th October 2005, 05:08

would it be possible to get a version that does not include the smx files? I already have the smx files and 10 megs is rather hefty since im on 56k.

sil3ntwar

7th October 2005, 06:52

nvm i got it eventually :P

The tool is awesome and is pretty much exactly what i was going to write to learn delphi + opengl until i realised it was alot harder than i thought :P

LuckyL

11th October 2005, 08:24

Tomi:

I dont think i can do that, sorry. It's because, as far as i now, the track layout of Autocross tracks is not in smx files. And that's where the spectator takes the tracks from.

Tomi

12th October 2005, 13:09

Tomi:

I dont think i can do that, sorry. It's because, as far as i now, the track layout of Autocross tracks is not in smx files. And that's where the spectator takes the tracks from.

But don't you think it would be possible to just allow the viewers to load the layout file manually ? I mean, LFS Spectator would load both the smx and layout files and would overlay the corresponding objects over the track map using sprites or signs such as dots, X and circles, whatever, as long as viewers can figure the layout. English isn't my mother tongue, I don't know if I explain it well enough.

xaotik

12th October 2005, 13:13

That would recquire reading .lyt files and I don't think those are documented somewhere currently.

Tomi

12th October 2005, 17:13

That would recquire reading .lyt files and I don't think those are documented somewhere currently.

I just checked, they aren't :(

misjka

15th February 2006, 07:25

This is a great app :thumb: !

One question, though: Must I specify a static ip to the host or may the InSim part resolve hostnames (i.e. host & domain names)?

EDIT: And, you should clash together with the creator of the LFS Server Script (and maybe Join2LFS?) so it may be easy to choose what host to watch, right from a webpage!!!

Pablo.CZ

16th February 2006, 09:44

Do you plan new version with chatbox and player list suggestions realized?

Becky Rose

23rd March 2006, 20:35

This is a wicked tool, I wish it could be used to show positions on replays too it'd really help in the little video idea i've been playing with.

RSchumacher

23rd April 2006, 18:07

Will there be an update for the "T"-Patch of Live for Speed?

spsamsp

23rd April 2006, 18:08

Cool :thumb:

Thorvertonian

29th April 2006, 14:30

Can't load this, everytime I try just get an error "Floating point division by zero" error

This is version 2.02

SpaceMarineITA

30th June 2006, 00:18

When will be released the new version of this that support bf1?

I have noticed that are not much the servers that support insim relay.
Why scawen does not force all the server hosts to automatically activate it?
(without a separate subscription i mean, something in the dedicated server)

imthebestracerthereis

1st August 2006, 02:22

where the .exe file?!

Jakg

1st August 2006, 10:16

where the .exe file?!tried looking in Release\LfS Spectator.exe?!

imthebestracerthereis

1st August 2006, 16:03

tried looking in Release\LfS Spectator.exe?!

I thought the exe would be an icon like thing, but I found it :D

Jakg

1st August 2006, 16:07

I thought the exe would be an icon like thing, but I found it :Dno, suprisingly an .exe is a program, and a .ico is an icon :D

what im more confused about is that it DOES have an icon!

Tweaker

24th August 2006, 20:10

VoiD

24th August 2006, 20:23

Yeah this doesn't work for BF1 or new AS configs :(

http://www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=SMX_PTH_S2U.zip

Just put *.smx and *.pth in your \spectator\files directory :D

Dygear

24th August 2006, 20:27

You rock

HRT SHAUN

26th August 2006, 09:04

i have a problem, it just doesnt work, always times out :(

edit: just started working, cheers

imthebestracerthereis

26th August 2006, 13:51

how do you get all the races? I read the read-me but no luck...

zeugnimod

26th August 2006, 15:27

You mean, spectate every server?

You cant, there are only some specific servers, you can watch.

Lible

26th August 2006, 20:09

how do you get all the races? I read the read-me but no luck...

You can only see servers, which are connected with Insim Relay.

BranislavS

21st January 2007, 14:46

Can't load this, everytime I try just get an error "Floating point division by zero" error

This is version 2.02

Same problem ,can't run Spectator :( anyone some ideas?

edited: if I run it in 256color mode it's run ,but all is only black and white and isn't showing the whole :(

Ondrejko

21st January 2007, 18:15

does anybody know if lfs lapper block insim relay at lfs world?
i would like to see my servers at lfs spectator, but i always get message about dead connection at insim relay window (maybe because i have lfs lapper running on drift server)

A.Fedorov

22nd January 2007, 04:00

if you use 2 or more addons for lfs (which use insim) you need run it addons over gateway else only one addon will work.

apthomson

26th January 2007, 20:36

You can only see servers, which are connected with Insim Relay.

Does that mean that you would be unable to use this on a LAN which is not internet connected? Or could the relay be set-up locally? I'm just starting to read all the doc now ... so sorry if this is obvious.

Adrian

ps. Nice util! :)

Ondrejko

10th February 2007, 15:27

is here some update (patch) for lfs spectator 2.02?
i think there are not new tracks like aston north, etc

tristancliffe

10th February 2007, 15:59

Download the SMX and PTH files from the Programmers Files section of LFS.net, and stick them in the Spectator folder - then you can use all the tracks in it :)

moshstef

8th June 2007, 06:35

Is it possible to run this behind a proxy? If yes, where do I set the proxy address and port?

srdsprinter

12th June 2007, 14:27

Does this work with Patch X? It has been a excellent tool in the past.

A.Fedorov

12th June 2007, 17:49

now use Insim Gateway http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=25925

srdsprinter

12th June 2007, 20:32

will try that out tonight. Thank you for the help :)

srdsprinter

13th June 2007, 02:04

has anyone been sucessful in using Gateway to run Spectator? I don't know the port settings or the UDP or TCP.

A.Fedorov

13th June 2007, 07:21

connection to LFS
Port: 29999
InSim v4(TCP)

connection from application
Port: 65000
InSim v3(UDP)

in lfs_spectate port 65000

srdsprinter

28th June 2007, 17:22

Still not working :(

Problem is that this software runs outside independant of LFS software.

Anyone have alternative similar software, ideas?

birder

27th August 2007, 09:53

Does anyone have a working Patch X version of Spectator?

FireFox86

27th August 2007, 10:28

I'm working on my own Race Spectator, because LFSSpecator doesnt work anymore. I'm testing it right now. showing split times, and the standings.

Gonna try to release it in a couple of days.

birder

27th August 2007, 11:55

I'm working on my own Race Spectator, because LFSSpecator doesnt work anymore. I'm testing it right now. showing split times, and the standings.

Gonna try to release it in a couple of days.

Great news

birder

31st August 2007, 10:26

FireFox86

31st August 2007, 13:02

Hi

I see you have released LFS Race Viewer 0.3,

Is this your version of spectator?

No, sorry for the confusion. Race Viewer is used within LFS itself.
I will release Race Spectator in a few hours. It hard to work at 2 different project at the same time and I found some bugs which I had to solve.

Edit: Birder: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=538081#post538081