Fellow Demo Racers

[TKKN]

Where should I begin? Well...

1. Race clean
2. Use your brakes
3. Stop crashing into racers on purpose (that's what Car Park is for!)
4. Do not stay in the middle of a turn on purpose
5. Do not drive the wrong way


There are alot of nice demo racers but when some /jerk(s) comes into the race and starts crashing just pisses me off.
It's :x annoying. I'm sick of it! Get lost!

I might not be the best racer but I sure do not :x it up for other players.
I either avoid them or brake so that I don't hit them.

Or if you are a newbie I suggest you to practice in Single player if you later on want to race clean.

Did I make myself clear enough?

Happy racing! :nod:

[zeugnimod]

Everything, what you say, is true. But this wont help much. The demo racers that are here, are the clean ones. I doubt, that the wreckers read here and I doubt, that they would change anything.

Actually, this is, what they want IMO. Attention. :(

[VoiD]

Where should I begin? Well...

...maybe you should begin with buying the S2-licence...

[TKKN]

...maybe you should begin with buying the S2-licence...
:banana_ra:



Everything, what you say, is true. But this wont help much. The demo racers that are here, are the clean ones. I doubt, that the wreckers read here and I doubt, that they would change anything.

Actually, this is, what they want IMO. Attention. :(
It's kinda sad, actually.

Oh well, S2 license soon :thumb:

[TKKN]

Sounds like you're the type of racer we like to see in S2 servers. Looking forward to racing you. :)
:nod:

[AirborneTR]

Since the demo racers here are the clean ones :P, I might add:

Try to join to servers that have vote option, otherwise, if there is no admin at the time, nothing can be done about crashers. Look for letter "V" at the server options column.

Race at a decent team's server. Usually there will be some team members around who try to keep their servers clean so crashers will get banned in no time.

If there are a couple of crashers, there is not much you can do, usually the votes won't be enough to kick them. Just leave and look for another server.

[fujiwara]

Unfortunatly when i want to race in Blackwood + XFG i go to demo servers, and there's plenty of great racers there's, but there's allways a lot wreckers too.
There's not much you can do, unless joining the best servers.

[TKKN]

I do usually leave those servers. Kinda sad thought.

I'm not into the XFG, I'm usually hungry for some RWD action!
And the lack of XR GT servers is annoying, there just a few of them.

Can't wait till christmas when I get $100 for my dear mother.
S2 license here I come! (and ofcourse a wheel as well)

The MRT 5 (?) looks like a blast to drive.

[TyresHot]

just be away of the iDi team ( a team of losers that crash and ban racers),then there is no problem in demo racing.iDi crashers usually crash on the same server so, if you go to another server you will be able to race good.and dont go against iDİ team because of that i am afraid you get a ban :( good luck and have fun :D

[TKKN]

just be away of the iDi team ( a team of losers that crash and ban racers),then there is no problem in demo racing.iDi crashers usually crash on the same server so, if you go to another server you will be able to race good.and dont go against iDİ team because of that i am afraid you get a ban :( good luck and have fun :D

Thanks for the info :)

Well, I'm off to play...

My best time on Blackwood is 1,27.45 so far :(
Gotta improve my times.

[fujiwara]

The MRT 5 (?) looks like a blast to drive.

The MRT is something that you will love or hate, i think that's one of that things where's no middle term.

[TyresHot]

Thanks for the info :)

Well, I'm off to play...

My best time on Blackwood is 1,27.45 so far :(
Gotta improve my times.


no problem, i will help you everytime :thumb:

[Da Mc Style]

Where should I begin? Well...

1. Race clean
2. Use your brakes
3. Stop crashing into racers on purpose (that's what Car Park is for!)
4. Do not stay in the middle of a turn on purpose
5. Do not drive the wrong way


There are alot of nice demo racers but when some /jerk(s) comes into the race and starts crashing just pisses me off.
It's annoying. I'm sick of it! Get lost!

I might not be the best racer but I sure do not it up for other players.
I either avoid them or brake so that I don't hit them.

Or if you are a newbie I suggest you to practice in Single player if you later on want to race clean.

Did I make myself clear enough?

Happy racing!


You can keep saying it thousand times, they won't stop it i geuss

[Dajmin]

My best time on Blackwood is 1,27.45 so far
If that's in the XFG or XRG then you're already way ahead of the WRs :p

The MRT is something that you will love or hate
Got that right. Snap oversteer is nasty on some tracks. But mostly I think it's great fun :)

[TKKN]

So...
I raced on a few servers, got banned from 1. Bunch of a-holes.
Server : |SWE| Träning.
I was spectating and their times weren't better then 1.41 with the FXG.
One of their team member stod just before the 1st corner of Blackwood and
when a person came he crashed into their car.
:scratchch Exciting!

I was racing as any normal person with IQ higher than 70 should have.
I also happen to have a different racing line (faster one), so I accidently bumped into (to be nice I will call him a) racer. I was banned right away.
Watch for team|SWE|, bunch of crashers.

Then there was a guy called e@rox!. It was ....ing great! Well raced!
We overtook eachother a few times and it was a really close battle till I flipped in the last corner at lap 10, stupid apex :trampolin: and at lap 11 I lost connection to host, do'h!

Happy racing! :nod:
If that's in the XFG or XRG then you're already way ahead of the WRs


Got that right. Snap oversteer is nasty on some tracks. But mostly I think it's great fun
XRG. I forgot to mention that.
That time sucks...got to improve more.

I'm currently down in the mid 1,36's with the FXG.
Still improving.

[fujiwara]

:razz::razz: And you keept calling FXG :razz::razz:

[[RCG]Boosted]

just keep ur eyes open...i host sometimes a server "Boosted's Clean Racing"
will open one today again ;)

[gru]

XRG. I forgot to mention that.
That time sucks...got to improve more.

1,27.45 with XRG and U say it sucks? WOW :thumb:
ye, ok, i know U meant XRT ;)

if i may recommend:
when i want XFG i usually choose ZION server (pro racing, good atmosphere)
for XRT will be harder. PINK was best in last few months, but its off for some time.
sometimes DFH Racing and GameZone.cz (but wreckers also like it :/)
RTS Demo is ok, but its usually set to quali

[TKKN]

1,27.45 with XRG and U say it sucks? WOW :thumb:
ye, ok, i know U meant XRT ;)

if i may recommend:
when i want XFG i usually choose ZION server (pro racing, good atmosphere)
for XRT will be harder. PINK was best in last few months, but its off for some time.
sometimes DFH Racing and GameZone.cz (but wreckers also like it :/)
RTS Demo is ok, but its usually set to quali

I've been in those servers...I like them all except from GameZone.
I also need better setups.

[Blas89]

ahgrgr i remember that bunch o losers of the iDi team! i just wanted to be an admin of the server they were racing and ban 'em from every damn server.:pillepall

[ZORER]

Thanks for the info :)

Well, I'm off to play...

My best time on Blackwood is 1,27.45 so far :(
Gotta improve my times.

what? who? how?.. 1:27.45 that's impossible. Kidding?

Edit: o ok you mean xrt....

[PCCD]

I've been in those servers...I like them all except from GameZone.
I also need better setups.

I recommend the Darksideracing.net server. Extremely good racing and crashing isn't tolerated.

Ranting about some demo racers, last night I ended up on a server with a bunch of arses, I drive cleanly through the chicane and come out perfectly fine with two other drivers on either side of me. Both started to slowly close into me but I figured they'd either end up in front/behind me so kept my foot down. Sure enough one got in front, no problem I thought until he pulled across me, hit the front end of my car which sent me into the other car and caused a five car pile-up. Naturally I'm almighty :x off at this point so ask him what his problem is, naturally the entire incident was my fault according to him, I say it was his fault for not being more careful but he laps in the 1.35s while I'm a lowly 1.38 so clearly he's in the right while I'm a idiot n00b which everyone else who didn't see the accident or saw him do his business seems to agree.

Same race after a restart he does me up again overtaking and then demands that I treat any car behind me as a blue flag. WTF? I say no I won't because he's causing the crashs, he votes to ban me, I get banned.

Clearly he's in the right though whatever anyone here thinks, he laps in the 1.35s.

Arrogant f:x ing little b:x ards, probably came along with one of their mothers s:x ts in the morning.

Why yes, I am angry about it.

[NONo443]

I agree with what the others have said. One thing that always helps me get ahead of the "wreckers" is thinking like one (aka, what are they going to do when you get close to them) and use some defensive driving skills (not sure if that helps, but if it does, then that is cool).

[PCCD]

One trick I like to use is quickly braking when someone is going to smash into me from the side, they'll end up in swerving in front of you, going into a barrier or into the gravel or similer and looking completely stupid.

Just make sure noone's behind you when you do it.

Or when someone's trying to physically shove you aside with their car, shove back. Only do this to known crashers though, for some reason people who do quick laps on the demo servers can get away with stuff us plebs would get banned for.

[TKKN]

I was in a 15 lap race last night.
I was in 1st place from lap 1 till lap 10. I had to pit. Then I went down to 2nd place.
My goal was to get as close as to the guy in the 1st place. I was slowly taking in. I saw another player driving out of the pit on lap 12. This couldn't be good, I thought. Now I had 2 guys infront of me. By lap 14 I managed to go down as far as 3 secs being behind them. Lap 15, down to 2 secs. I could see them clearly. In the 1st turn they both collide. Don't know what exactly happened, I just saw the guy behind him drive straight into him.
I was too concentrated on my racing line. I thought I had to cry when I saw them collide. I pass them, up to 1st palce again. He ended up 5 secs behind me. I wouldn't have cared about if I came in the 2nd place and with 1 sec behind, all I wanted is having a good clean race. Which it was, most of the time.

BUT WHEN :xING NOOBS COMES INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE RACE AND :xCKS UP
THE EXCITING RACE I WISH THEY WOULD BE SHOT IN THE HEAD IMMEDIATELY.

I always let the faster people ahead of me, so that I don't trouble them.
If I overtake I make sure that none of us is going to get off the track.
And I also use something called brakes which some people usually forget to use.

Happy racing and don't forget to race clean! :nod:

[dmwright]

TKKN i agree with you, Yesterday I got my PB on Blackwood with xfg 1.33.30, i have aimed for this time but the admin thought i was cheating? But he has been racing for ages and only got a 1.33.48. Maybe because i have been racing since june and he doesnt like tht and i recieved a ban although i have a reply of proof.:shrug:

I normally get every one to ban the crasher so we can carry on with a good race, but i would never cheat and never crash, i just like speed thats all:)

[MW]NOFEAR

[dmwright]

I recommend the Darksideracing.net server. Extremely good racing and crashing isn't tolerated.

Ranting about some demo racers, last night I ended up on a server with a bunch of arses, I drive cleanly through the chicane and come out perfectly fine with two other drivers on either side of me. Both started to slowly close into me but I figured they'd either end up in front/behind me so kept my foot down. Sure enough one got in front, no problem I thought until he pulled across me, hit the front end of my car which sent me into the other car and caused a five car pile-up. Naturally I'm almighty :x off at this point so ask him what his problem is, naturally the entire incident was my fault according to him, I say it was his fault for not being more careful but he laps in the 1.35s while I'm a lowly 1.38 so clearly he's in the right while I'm a idiot n00b which everyone else who didn't see the accident or saw him do his business seems to agree.

Same race after a restart he does me up again overtaking and then demands that I treat any car behind me as a blue flag. WTF? I say no I won't because he's causing the crashs, he votes to ban me, I get banned.

Clearly he's in the right though whatever anyone here thinks, he laps in the 1.35s.

Arrogant f:x ing little b:x ards, probably came along with one of their mothers s:x ts in the morning.

Why yes, I am angry about it.

i was racing there last night was your racing name?

[TKKN]

TKKN i agree with you, Yesterday I got my PB on Blackwood with xfg 1.33.30, i have aimed for this time but the admin thought i was cheating? But he has been racing for ages and only got a 1.33.48. Maybe because i have been racing since june and he doesnt like tht and i recieved a ban although i have a reply of proof.:shrug:

I normally get every one to ban the crasher so we can carry on with a good race, but i would never cheat and never crash, i just like speed thats all:)

[MW]NOFEAR
Admin = :pillepall

Maybe we can meet online, Duck's setup just doesn't work for me, it's for hotlapping. I'm not really good with setups either. I also need to improve on my racing line, I think :scratchch

[PCCD]

i was racing there last night was your racing name?

Same as on here

PCCD

[Iron]

Maybe we should form a team named CDRC = Clean Demo Racers Club :) ,and race on private server(s)... But that would require money, unless someone here has access to a host, and can put up a server. Otherwise we can just buy S2, which i'll do as soon as i get my first salary, which should be around Dec. 10th. :)

[TKKN]

Maybe we should form a team named CDRC = Clean Demo Racers Club :) ,and race on private server(s)... But that would require money, unless someone here has access to a host, and can put up a server. Otherwise we can just buy S2, which i'll do as soon as i get my first salary, which should be around Dec. 10th. :)
That would awesome.
Only if soemone is willing to host a server. I don't have acces to stuff like that.
I'm going to buy S2 license as well, which should be around christmas.

[nihil]

BUT WHEN :xING NOOBS COMES INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE RACE AND :xCKS UP
THE EXCITING RACE I WISH THEY WOULD BE SHOT IN THE HEAD IMMEDIATELY.


Sorry to put a bit of a damper on your enthusiasm, but this is not only rude, but positively stupid.

You are racing on a demo server, so by definition a lot of racers will be 'noobs'.

I was racing LFS online for the first time last night, and to be honest I'm not surprised incidents like this happen. As a complete noob, LFS doesn't give you any sense of when its appropriate to join a race - you just turn up on a server, see a race is in progress, but when do you press the join button? Its a dilemma for a noob...

I missed a couple of restarts, because I was waiting for an appropriate moment. Then I realised that you just have to join asap and hang around somewhere that doesn't interfere with what's going on. But then I'm not a noob to racing etiquette. I can fully understand why someone who is would join and then find themselves being used as a mobile chicane.

I made my share of gaffs last night, mostly due to frame rate drops in the turn one melées - my arthritic computer is really not up to eleven cars all arriving in the same spot at once!

But a shout out to marco and tt87, against whom I had a couple of very enjoyable races - I was tail end charlie for most of the time, but it was all very close, bumper to bumper stuff. I'm afraid I was very screen weary after investigating the servers all night, and rolled in the third race, but it was enough to convince me to stick with LFS as a parallel to my beloved GPL!

[AirborneTR]

Well, I do setup a server sometimes but it seems it isn't attracting enough people. It can handle about 6-7 racers, but pings may be a problem. I gets kinda high pings from abroad servers these days. And too bad, I won't be around after next week.

[nihil]

That would awesome.
Only if soemone is willing to host a server. I don't have acces to stuff like that.


Has anyone here ever used the 'start new game' option in multiplayer? Should allow you to set your computer up to host a race - not explored it myself so don't know whether you can password it...

[TKKN]

Has anyone here ever used the 'start new game' option in multiplayer? Should allow you to set your computer up to host a race - not explored it myself so don't know whether you can password it...
I've but it lagged way too much...I can't host a race becaue of that.

[MR_B]

It always has been and always will be a huge problem with the demo side of the game. Unfortunately there isn't a way to control demo users, unlike S2 where you can bann someone from a server for X amount of days, with demo it's just 24hrs.

There's a clean racers club for S2, but it's harder to admin the demo side because of the lack of LFS usernames...

[AirborneTR]

Has anyone here ever used the 'start new game' option in multiplayer? Should allow you to set your computer up to host a race - not explored it myself so don't know whether you can password it...
Yes, you can set a password. A 256 kbit/s upload bandwidth allows for 7-8 people without a problem.

[TKKN]

Oh man! I just met the biggest losers...I think.
Rallycross - # 02 Gamezone.cz LFS DEMO

I was almost winning constantly. I was driving the XFG. An admin of the server (I think it was the admin) was driving the XRG. I won a few races, came 2nd once or twice. He couldn't catch up with me.
I don't understand their funny language so they went on talking about me.
Didn't understand a word.
The last thing the admin (I still think it was the admin) wrote was ''TKKN - Bye!'' then I lost connection to host.
:pillepall :really:

Bad losers or .....?

Anyway, new PB : 1,12,98 :shy:

[imamura72]

BAD LOSER :nod:

[TKKN]

BAD LOSER :nod:

I don't know...I'm still unsure :scratchch

Anyone wants to meet online today?

[imamura72]

Edit Sorry

[Iron]

Location: ria ria hungaria!

Wtf!? Are you just kidding, or you really live here? :)

[TKKN]

Wtf!? Are you just kidding, or you really live here? :)
I do live in Sweden, since 5 years back, but I'm hungarian ;)

[imamura72]

For approximately an hour I will hold opened a serveur, tried [ EE]DRIFT & RACE, you are the welcomes :D

[Glenn67]

You are racing on a demo server, so by definition a lot of racers will be 'noobs'.

I was racing LFS online for the first time last night, and to be honest I'm not surprised incidents like this happen. As a complete noob, LFS doesn't give you any sense of when its appropriate to join a race - you just turn up on a server, see a race is in progress, but when do you press the join button? Its a dilemma for a noob...

I'm afraid I was very screen weary after investigating the servers all night, and rolled in the third race, but it was enough to convince me to stick with LFS as a parallel to my beloved GPL!

Firstly welcome to LFS :D

I agree with you 100%, alot seem to forget that the demo online environement is for people to "test" the online aspect of the game, so there will be alot of newbies about :nod: so I always make allowances for those that don't have much online experience.

The best advice for demo servers is to get to know who you race with and meet up with them when you can. Secondly only join servers that you can kick or ban people, drive fair yourself, and when you see people deliberately doing the wrong thing, first vote to kick them, if they persist then vote to ban them. If your in a server with some other experienced people you can keep it fairly organised and have some good races :)

There was talk of a demo legaue starting also which might interest you guys, dunno how its going though, as its been awhile since I read that section of the forums, its under the league section if your interseted.

I personally perfer semi organised longer races i.e 20 - 40 laps, some teams hold these type of events every now and again in demo. But would be nice to see more of thses types of events, on a regular basis and catering to a greater variety of skill levels...

[scoobyrbac]

I run a server, I am also mad when people just come in drive the wrong way, run into you on purpose and sit in the middle of the track when you are trying to drift.. I think it would be nice to make a Clean Demo Racers Club....

[red7]

I've only raced online a few times, but it seems that there are about 2, maybe three people who are driving clean, the rest are going crazy and crashing all over the place. Still the online demo gives you a taste of s2 I guess:)

[TKKN]

I've just met another bunch of :xing crashers. Team [phåt].
Avoid those guys.

Is there any way we could arrange an online meeting, for clean racers only? :shrug:

[AirborneTR]

I can host a session. And we can give it a try to see how your pings are, etc. Or if there is anybody with a better connection (I have 1024/256) he can host.

I say, lets form this "Clean Demo Racers Club" and arrange races. But again, I'm around for this week only. And I'd join back once I'm able to race again.

[PCCD]

It always has been and always will be a huge problem with the demo side of the game. Unfortunately there isn't a way to control demo users, unlike S2 where you can bann someone from a server for X amount of days, with demo it's just 24hrs.

There's a clean racers club for S2, but it's harder to admin the demo side because of the lack of LFS usernames...

Lies!

I got banned unfairly once and found I couldn't get back on the server. So I simply closed LFS, disconnected from the web and then reconnected. I fired up LFS, lo & behold there's the server back again and I can get back on it. This was in the space of about 5 minutes.


To another point, there used to be a server on the demo called "LFS Demo Server". I say used to because it doesn't seem to exist anymore, from time to time you could get a fair few folk in there who were of a similer skill level and it was a pretty friendly place and was quite popular. Over time however village idiots and what I like to call "Grinders"* would frequent the server more and more. It's very hard to have a decent race and feel like you've made an improvement when 6 or 7 people in front of you are either lapping 1:34 laps and treating the race as little more than a time trial or mistaking LFS for Burnout.

Ban the idiots then I see you type, here's the problem though unless it happens to them there's folk in races who couldn't give a crap about what's happening in the race unless it knocks 0.001 off of their lap time. So when it comes to banning the village idiots you end up with just one or two votes unless it happens to the folk up front in which case you'll see bans happen in about 6 seconds.

Problem as I see it is that newbies click join and then don't have a clue what's expected of them, there's a fair few folk that are willing to help both on the servers and on these boards but it's about 80% on the demo who see you as little more than a moving chicane who should really be banned and confined to single player for dareing to stray onto their racing line. Also what if newbies assume that the expierence they have on the demo server will be indicative of what their expierence on the S2 servers will be like? Noone's going to fork out £24 if that's what the majority of folk who play LFS online are going to be like.

[TKKN]

If you are going to rallycross go to UCPI's server. Crashers are usually banned right away.
Fast guys, great racing :thumb:

I have to agree with PCCD as well.
But I guess there are way too many kids with low IQ capactiy who plays LFS S2 DEMO.

[nihil]

Problem as I see it is that newbies click join and then don't have a clue what's expected of them, there's a fair few folk that are willing to help both on the servers and on these boards but it's about 80% on the demo who see you as little more than a moving chicane who should really be banned and confined to single player for dareing to stray onto their racing line.

Well, that's really two problems, but both due to inexperience - newbies just scoping out what to do next is to be expected, but the 1.33 hotlappers who get stressed when they're forced to - oh my god - overtake and go off their habitual line - well, that's to be expected too.

I've had two nights online now and already been banned once - joined a server since it was practically the only one allowing use of the "RWD non-turbo thing" - I didn't even get a chance to join before a vote to ban started... Some people like a server to themselves...

I quite like the wild demo environment though. There are good races to be had and if someone wants to play at being the crasher, there's not much imagination involved, so after a while you get to know what will happen and where they'll be. Someone blocking wildly on the straight? You can usually pressure them into the gravel trap at the end without even making contact. Someone sitting on the apex of the chicane? Alter your entry point and go for an apex just ahead and in front of their car. Usually they're either too surprised to move or have gone for a beer anyway....

I don't like the voting system though - maybe it was introduced to combat the wreckers, but its so open to abuse itself and its not a warm way to introduce someone to racing. Also, if someone ends up on their roof just after turn one, they start a vote and repeat the mistake, instead of pressing space and racing for a late position.

The other thing I'd remove from the demo is body damage. Half the servers seem to be full of people happily clowning around, seeing what shapes they can bend their car into. Nothing intrinsically wrong with this, but I reckon half the fun of wrecking an actual race would be removed if the cars didn't go into mad contortions.

[TKKN]

Why do clean racers get banned?

UCPI was good till a few morons joined. I got banned beacuse I got pushed from behind and I spun out and hit a few cars. It wasn't my fault. :pillepall
There is something called BRAKES. Use them mother :xers!

GODDAMIT NOOBS!

Happy racing! :nod:

[PCCD]

Ah heck yeah, the demo enviroment is useful for learning defensive driving (It's more or less mandatory) the voting system does need work though. You'll often find that folk vote for a ban without having seen the accident or vote to ban someone who's only crime was to pit. You also see a lot of people vote in bans instigated by crashers who claim that they race clean and that parking on the first chicane and reversing back and forth is a perfectly legit tactic.

Sometimes I feel like Chris Kamara, voice and opinion of the goings on in the diddy servers.

[TKKN]

Ah heck yeah, the demo enviroment is useful for learning defensive driving (It's more or less mandatory) the voting system does need work though. You'll often find that folk vote for a ban without having seen the accident or vote to ban someone who's only crime was to pit. You also see a lot of people vote in bans instigated by crashers who claim that they race clean and that parking on the first chicane and reversing back and forth is a perfectly legit tactic.

Sometimes I feel like Chris Kamara, voice and opinion of the goings on in the diddy servers.
If I vote to ban somebody, it's for the right reasons.
I don't vote if I haven't seen the person do it.
Accidents happen too. I don't see any sense banning people for that.
Defensive driving? I'm not quiet sure about that.
But I'm rather the offensive one, yet I race clean. I go by the rules.

A thing I have been thinking about...
Are people really that paranoid about their position that they have to block you so you can't pass them?

In rallycross, I'm more concerned for my lap times than my position :D
New PB : 1,12,94. Here I come WR! j/k:uglyhamme

Edit : Make that 1,12,64! hahaha

[PCCD]

By defensive driving I mean what to do if a crasher or the village idiot comes from behind or in front or from where ever they come in from.

Also, some folk are pretty damn paranoid about their track position. When someone is attempting to pass me, I stick to my line and try not to do anything stupid. My philosophy is that if you want to overtake you do it off your own back and shouldn't expect me to let you through regardless of who you are or what your laptimes are (unless it's blue flag). However people will pretty much flood the chat channel with demands to be let through and then smash their way through at a corner often spinning you out in the process.

Start a ban vote and you'll get the sum total of one vote, your own and the claim that you're the problem. You pull the above stunt on them and you get banned GUARENTEED!

The voting system does need a bit of an overhaul and if people don't want all & sundry joining their server they should password protect it. If I had my way the server would start the vote itself. Although that's probably a technical impossibility.

[Leifde]

[...]Any chance that the server you're talking about was "LFS Demo League"?

Kinda off-topic but I've got some good news for the demo league, I just registered www.demo-league.com (http://www.demo-league.com) I've not uploaded anything yet and I still need to get the website finished on my computer but I'm hoping to have the website live by Christmas. I am also planning to order a server from 500servers.com next month to use for races. I am hoping to get the first race going in January.

To any S2 licensed people: I need a couple of admins for the league, to control the race if I can't make it. There are no restrictions but I want to make sure I can trust you with the server password.

Since this is a long(ish) post about the league I'll carry on with ideas for next season :D

1) I'm toying with the idea of having 3 short heats then a longer final. Around Blackwood I'm thinking of 6-lap heats and a 20-lap final. This would take quite a bit of time though.

2) I think I'm going to run 2 divisions side-by-side to allow for different timezones. Last season quite a few people couldn't make it to any races because they had work etc.

3) Penalties will NOT be issued by my decision only (with exceptions). I will have an appeal system like the one in the STCC and that is the only way you can get penalised for stuff like contact - if someone else reports you.

4) Cars must display the series sponsor logos. The person leading the championship MUST have a yellow bonnet/hood.

I can't think of anything else changing at the moment.

I will request a sub-forum in the leagues section as soon as I get the website live.

EDIT: Donations of S2 vouchers are welcome. The more we have available, the more we can give out. :)

[TKKN]

By defensive driving I mean what to do if a crasher or the village idiot comes from behind or in front or from where ever they come in from.

Also, some folk are pretty damn paranoid about their track position. When someone is attempting to pass me, I stick to my line and try not to do anything stupid. My philosophy is that if you want to overtake you do it off your own back and shouldn't expect me to let you through regardless of who you are or what your laptimes are (unless it's blue flag). However people will pretty much flood the chat channel with demands to be let through and then smash their way through at a corner often spinning you out in the process.

Start a ban vote and you'll get the sum total of one vote, your own and the claim that you're the problem. You pull the above stunt on them and you get banned GUARENTEED!

The voting system does need a bit of an overhaul and if people don't want all & sundry joining their server they should password protect it. If I had my way the server would start the vote itself. Although that's probably a technical impossibility.

I try to avoid them if they are infront of me.

And about the position issue, it's pretty pathetic by people who does such thing. They should let faster people pass them, they will somehow end up behind the faster guy anyway.

I also think that it's a technical impossibility.
The server/system wouldn't probably recognise who is the crasher etc.

Happy racing! :nod:

[TKKN]

*text*

Sounds great :thumb:
By January I'll probably have S2 license ;)

[PCCD]

I'll just take the voucher thanks

[jiggly_head]

I try to avoid them if they are infront of me.

And about the position issue, it's pretty pathetic by people who does such thing. They should let faster people pass them, they will somehow end up behind the faster guy anyway.

I also think that it's a technical impossibility.
The server/system wouldn't probably recognise who is the crasher etc.

Happy racing! :nod:

well if it aint a blue flag the car in front is not obligated to let u thru easily. it wouldnt be called racing then. If the car behind is so much faster than the car in front, surely there will be plenty of oppurtunity for him to overtake safely. for example a straight up ahead.

Also ppl should join races to race. there is a hotlap feature in the game. use it.:thumb:

[PCCD]

That's the problem though, I'm convinced some people's fast laps on BW were only achieved online and with a slipstream session on the straight after the first chicane. As far as about 70% of folk on the demo/diddy servers are concerned, online races are just a series of hot laps with some moving chicanes that should be banned if they don't let you through without a blue flag.

I'd like to suggest that servers be ranked according to ability. Simply put a server would be given a rank depending on the average times clocked on the server. Each racer (demo or S2 licensed) would also be given a rank depending on their own average clocked times hot-lapping offline. So people with a rank of say 2 would be allowed on all rank 2 servers. Hosts would be allowed to set parameters on what rank of racer are allowed on their server however, so someone may decide to allow all ranks on their server while another would only allow rank 1 racers.

Now watch as the devs read the above and ask what I've been smoking.

[Barn]

If you are going to rallycross go to UCPI's server. Crashers are usually banned right away.
Fast guys, great racing :thumb:


not just fast.....THE FASTEST!:thumb:

[Barn]

In rallycross, I'm more concerned for my lap times than my position :D
New PB : 1,12,94. Here I come WR! j/k:uglyhamme

Edit : Make that 1,12,64! hahaha

CONGRATS........good enough for 553rd fastest in UCPI Racing:)

[Batou.]

One trick I like to use is quickly braking when someone is going to smash into me from the side, they'll end up in swerving in front of you, going into a barrier or into the gravel or similer and looking completely stupid.

Just make sure noone's behind you when you do it.

Or when someone's trying to physically shove you aside with their car, shove back. Only do this to known crashers though, for some reason people who do quick laps on the demo servers can get away with stuff us plebs would get banned for.

since i usually play in drift servers (no really good ping grip servers in the demo edition...)

i just drift around them. looks cool, pisses em off, kills 2 birds with 1 stone! =]

[Cr!t!calDrift]

Oh, hey batou!

Nice stuff dude, nice to see you there.

Yeah there are alot of demo racers, considering the age range difference and the fact that no one really knows what they have to do on multiplayer.

The real solution is not to get angry, but to teach them.

[cjN]

...maybe you should begin with buying the S2-licence...
what if you can't afford an s2 license?

[theirishnoob]

another topic for the s2 a$$holes to annoy us

[AndroidXP]

Shut up and buy S2 :p

[garph]

Why don't all of the demo racers in this thread and others who want clean and fair races all get together and get a server (doubtful as you can't buy S2), see if one of you can host (need a good connection) or find some friendly demo hoster to help you out and use a passworded server and only give out the password to people you know and trust, if muppets get in then change the password.

You should be able to get enough clean people together to keep the server fairly busy and most importantly free of wreckers. If you want some good clean races you're going to have to put a little effort in to get it up and running and the right kind of people in there!

p.s. This has been suggested a billion times I'm sure so sorry for saying it again.

[RaDuS]

if you have the money grab s2 you wont be dissapointed you will see the a wrecker on the odd ocasion but its very rare.

[Branden3113]

I hate crashers, I was one for like the first day, untill I got hated, now i'm normal:)