Slow M.P.H. Leaving Pits

[Handler]

During a race any time I go to the Pits and make changes or normal stop, the fastest speed that I can get up to is around 47 m.p.h. Can anyone tell me if I'm doing something wrong or is it something wrong with the software. I sure would like some help on this one.

thanks,
Handler

[the_angry_angel]

Try turning the pit limiter off (L by default).

[jtw62074]

During a race any time I go to the Pits and make changes or normal stop, the fastest speed that I can get up to is around 47 m.p.h. Can anyone tell me if I'm doing something wrong or is it something wrong with the software. I sure would like some help on this one.

thanks,
Handler

Turn off your speed limiter. I think it's L on the keyboard, but am not sure. It can be mapped in the options to whatever you want.

[jtw62074]

Wow, simultaneous posts :D

[Gabkicks]

another classic post. :)

[FEANOR]

During a race any time I go to the Pits and make changes or normal stop, the fastest speed that I can get up to is around 47 m.p.h. Can anyone tell me if I'm doing something wrong or is it something wrong with the software. I sure would like some help on this one.

thanks,
Handler

Under FIA regulations the fastest a vehicle can travel down the pitlane is 80kph or 50mph. Speeding in the pitlane is a serious offence and can be punish by several different means. Those include stop go penalties, drive through or exclusion fom the race or event.

[al heeley]

I've had a couple of really irritating pit violations recently, just exiting the pits and getting tapped by another car behind, pulling out of their pit stall, its enough to send the car just over the 80kmh limit and i have to go round for a drive-thru penalty. Most annoying!

[FEANOR]

I've had a couple of really irritating pit violations recently, just exiting the pits and getting tapped by another car behind, pulling out of their pit stall, its enough to send the car just over the 80kmh limit and i have to go round for a drive-thru penalty. Most annoying!

Thats racing unfortunately.

[steve]

Thats racing unfortunately.

what about a lag bump? where you get shot off at 200kph..

[tristancliffe]

If you stay in 1st you seem to get a maximum of 47mph, but if you change to second you tend to get either 48 or 49 mph. Only gonna save a tenth or two in a race, but it could mean a better result!

[GeForz]

Thats racing unfortunately.
You mean it's racing if you run down the pitlane and some dumbass who pulls out of his pit stall withour worrying if someone is driving along hits you?

[StewartFisher]

If you stay in 1st you seem to get a maximum of 47mph, but if you change to second you tend to get either 48 or 49 mph. Only gonna save a tenth or two in a race, but it could mean a better result!
Wouldn't it be more accurate for the pit-limiter to be rev-based instead of speed based? I'd prefer a setup variable to manually set the limiter revs which you'd have to alter according to your 1st gear ratio.

[tristancliffe]

I'm not sure, but I thought that F1 cars (for example) use a wheel speed sensor on the front wheel to measure the speed. This means they don't need to reset the limiter software after a gear ratio adjustment.

But as I say I don't know, it's just a logical deduction.

[StewartFisher]

I'm not sure, but I thought that F1 cars (for example) use a wheel speed sensor on the front wheel to measure the speed. This means they don't need to reset the limiter software after a gear ratio adjustment.

But as I say I don't know, it's just a logical deduction.
Hmm...you could be right. I've heard it called a rev-limiter a few times which made me think it was based on engine revs rather than speed. A site I just found says that the limiter can only be engaged in first or second gear which supports your idea that it's speed based.
Ignore me and carry on :)

[snewham]

I've had a couple of really irritating pit violations recently, just exiting the pits and getting tapped by another car behind, pulling out of their pit stall, its enough to send the car just over the 80kmh limit and i have to go round for a drive-thru penalty. Most annoying!



ahh i hate that as well. Got a tap on the way into the pits earlier on tonight. i got drive throug penalty but car behind didn't :pillepall

[FEANOR]

You mean it's racing if you run down the pitlane and some dumbass who pulls out of his pit stall withour worrying if someone is driving along hits you?

Mate it hapens in real racing when the driver is released as a car is getting close. Have a look at the Monza round of this years F1 championship to cars went side by side down the pits. That was very nearly an accident but it was also for position.

[Warper]

I think real pitlimiters are based on speed-meter and working with ignition-interruption. And thats exactly what i'm missing in LFS until now... Real GT cars are screeming really loud while passing pitlane. Because ignition-interruption is totally remorseless for the engine.

In LFS you drive through the pit lane with an engine limited to exactly 79 kp/h without any problems... totaly quiet.

We need some rumble in da house ;)

[GeForz]

Mate it hapens in real racing when the driver is released as a car is getting close. Have a look at the Monza round of this years F1 championship to cars went side by side down the pits. That was very nearly an accident but it was also for position.
perhaps i understand it wrong but isn't "pit-stall" the building and not the place where you make your pitstop?

[al heeley]

Um, what has that got to do with the discussion about the speed limiter?

In LFS you can hit 'L' in any gear, it limits your speed, not your revs. It's therefore technically not a rev limiter, but it works as well as it should do, I don't really want the extra complication of having to reset depending on gearing, I know its supposed to be an accurate sim, but this factor does not detract from the gameplay in my opinion, it makes it easier to concentrate on more important things like racing well and setting the car up.

[Theafro]

it would be nice to be able to couple a wheel spin to trigger the limiter on. hmm wonder if its been done before? :)

[tristancliffe]

like a shitty version of traction control? I think it would upset the car massively...

[ajp71]

perhaps i understand it wrong but isn't "pit-stall" the building and not the place where you make your pitstop?

Your thinking of the 'Pit Garage', the 'Pit Stall' in the traditional sense was phased out 40 years ago :D http://www.imca-slotracing.com/images/312P-LeMans1969-nr18.jpg

[Theafro]

yeah but it's the kind of bodge i enjoy perfecting!

:homersimp

[Huru-aito]

In LFS you can hit 'L' in any gear, it limits your speed, not your revs. It's therefore technically not a rev limiter, but it works as well as it should do

Correct. When you have 'show pedals' on, you can see LFS automatically limits the throttle when close to the speed limit (and the limiter on of course).

In real life a limiter like that wont make the car sound any different than when you're just cruising, using little throttle. I don't know if a throttle limiter is realistic or not - I'd assume it needs a drive-by-wire system - SuperGT (former JGTC, the series the big GTRs are supposed to resemble) rules require a mechanical throttle linkage :)

[FEANOR]

In real life a limiter like that wont make the car sound any different than when you're just cruising, using little throttle.

Ever heard an F1 or a V8Supercar in pit lane. They sound like rubbish because they keep the throttle flat to the deck and to compinsate the engine management unit makes the egine miss so they splutter along pitlane and its no beacuse their at low rev either.

Also the pit bay (according to CAMS) is the area defined as area directly infront of the garage. Further more the pit bay is marked and any work undertaken outside of this marked area can result in any number of penalties (fines, stop-go's and drive throughs or exclusion from the race or the event).

[Huru-aito]

Ever heard an F1 or a V8Supercar in pit lane. They sound like rubbish because they keep the throttle flat to the deck and to compinsate the engine management unit makes the egine miss so they splutter along pitlane and its no beacuse their at low rev either.

You can still use that kind of rev limiter even if you have electric throttle control. I'd even think using a limiter that cuts fuel and/or spark would be more accurate than throttle limiting. Anyways, my point was that the way the limiter is done in LFS, using a limiter wouldn't result in snap / crackle / pop in real life either.

[tristancliffe]

F1 cars are not allowed to use throttle-by-wire. They MUST have a mechanical connection to the throttle bodies.

[CMoney86]

Also, I've found that if you do a burnout up to the limiter... sometimes it doesnt catch in time and you get screwed also. =\

[tristancliffe]

Can you explain better? I've done burnouts, and sat on the grid on the limiter a few (many) times in my S2 Career, and the limiter has always caught the revs for me. Always. Not once has it failed.

[CMoney86]

Well, since I mainly race FO8... Thats what car I was driving. In the pit, with the limiter on.. I've overcome the limiter more than once while doing a burnout.