Point to point racing [Archive]

Lowe

27th September 2006, 11:03

Hi all,

I'm a bit of a n00b here, and I've searched, but never come across something which I'd love to see in the LFS engine...

Point to point racing. Rather than circuits, have something that's like a nice Welsh B road (obviously without traffic). I wouldn't want this to be NFS style, just something a little different. :)

Could be fun for the grippers and the drifters. Anyhoo feel free to shoot it down in flames :thumb:

keltern

27th September 2006, 11:15

wouldn't mind a sort of "isle of man" type road conditions, and the same kind of point to point racing..

in other words = +1

but expect some flaming though.. :razz:

Becky Rose

27th September 2006, 11:22

Jamexing

27th September 2006, 11:25

I've wished for WRC style rally stages in LFS for a long while, but ATM, even the gravel terrain simulation is quite off. Wish it'll happen, but unfortunately, it's still some way off. :(

Gentlefoot

27th September 2006, 11:29

+1 for this - really challenges your ability to learn the course. Would need to be at least 5 miles long I'd say else it would just be too short.

And would we have actual racing or what it be done against the clock - much more boring IMO. It would be hilarious trying to overtake on some narrow windy road.

the_angry_angel

27th September 2006, 11:59

And would we have actual racing or what it be done against the clock - much more boring IMO. It would be hilarious trying to overtake on some narrow windy road.Against the clock, but have everyone start at offset times (i.e. at 30 second intervals?) :D Lots of chances for fun passing then :)

Gentlefoot

27th September 2006, 12:03

Against the clock, but have everyone start at offset times (i.e. at 30 second intervals?) :D Lots of chances for fun passing then :)

cool idea. And if people tele pitted after crashing it'd work very well indeed.

Lowe

27th September 2006, 13:29

Stuff against the clock, I'd love a pack of say 4 cars battling it out down a tight twisty road. Yes, I guess there's the potential for mahem if one person stacks it (pileup anyone?) but wouldn't that be part of the charm? :D

As for Rally stages - hmm, same kind of thing I guess but I wouldn't want it particularly off road, perhaps a tarmac stage thing...

Michael Denham

27th September 2006, 19:58

Yeah, this is something I'm really looking forward to. I'd be happy not even racing, just enjoying driving a fantastic windy road I don't know at high speed in a nice road car. But then, I did go out for a 600km drive last night just to drive some of the best twisty mountain roads around here.... :D

I would love something in LFS like the Stelvio Pass or something similar. An awesome, narrow road with loads of switchbacks and cliff edges to fall off. If there was say a 20km point to point road like that, I don't think I would ever drive anything else in LFS again... :D It's nice to dream....

Just thought of something else....with circuit racing, 99% of the time the car with the best outright grip and power to weight ratio (or power to drag at high speed...) is the fastest on a circuit. it would be awesome to have these narrow bumpy roads with constant direction changes as I think we'd see some of the less powercul cars keeping up with more powerful cars. If the road was twisty and enough, I'm sure a less confident FZ50 driver wouldn't see which way an LX4 went, and who knows, it might even have a very well driven XR GT in it's mirrors :)

Forbin

27th September 2006, 20:07

I've wished for WRC style rally stages in LFS for a long while, but ATM, even the gravel terrain simulation is quite off. Wish it'll happen, but unfortunately, it's still some way off. :(
LFS on gravel feels pretty similar to RBR on gravel, IMO. :)

wheel4hummer

27th September 2006, 20:17

The rallyX in LFS is amazing. But, we need rally stages, and from the previous posts, this is already planned. I haven't played LFS for at least a week, I have been playing the GPL demo. :D

Becky Rose

27th September 2006, 21:46

I have no idea how accurate LFS' off-road physics are. The only time i've ever driven a car off road has been very brief and abruptly interrupted by an armco.

Eldanor

27th September 2006, 22:23

I would love something in LFS like the Stelvio Pass or something similar. An awesome, narrow road with loads of switchbacks and cliff edges to fall off. If there was say a 20km point to point road like that, I don't think I would ever drive anything else in LFS again... :D It's nice to dream....
:thumb: I also love those roads IRL, and I hope we see them someday.

BTW, everytime someone asks for point to point tracks, the NFS flamming appears. I wonder why this time it hasn't appeared...

Dumpy

27th September 2006, 22:30

Yep, this is still a great idea. Highway 199 please! There are some great mountain/canyon/cliffside roads along the rivers around here. Makes a long trip actually interesting to drive. I like trying to improve my line through the curves and narrows each time (always at completely legal speeds of course!), but I always wonder how fast I could go if I could use both/all four lanes (and if I had a proper car [and no speed limits {or traffic}]) ... :scratchch

Shotglass

27th September 2006, 23:04

you know its funny how a suggestion like this gets lots of supporters as long as nobody dares to call the winding narrow roads you all want "togue"

Breizh

28th September 2006, 04:47

Touge invented narrow roads.

Michael Denham

28th September 2006, 05:55

you know its funny how a suggestion like this gets lots of supporters as long as nobody dares to call the winding narrow roads you all want "togue"
What's wrong with calling them that? It's just another name for them and the guys that do togue just enjoy driving these roads like the rest of us...

Hyperactive

28th September 2006, 11:27

It's unlikely to get flamed simply because Scawen has already said it's planned. Specifically in regards to rally stages, whether you get a Welsh B road depends on wether we get the Rally of Great Britain :)

Hmm. Has he actually said it? There are some severe limitations related to this kind of "from point a to b" race courses and I would be quite surprized to see one in LFS...

SpaceMarineITA

28th September 2006, 11:35

ramtech

28th September 2006, 11:52

this is such a good idea.. point to point.. OMG :)

TyresHot

28th September 2006, 14:31

-1

evans

28th September 2006, 14:46

-1
Weeeell, you're a demo racer, so your input really doesn't count :p
I'm +1 on this. Racing in "stages" would be awesome.

Jamexing

28th September 2006, 14:50

Weeeell, you're a demo racer, so your input really doesn't count :p
I'm +1 on this. Racing in "stages" would be awesome.

No wonder he's still a demo racer. If I've read the elitist anti-demo racer crap on these forums before I got the licencse, well, i simply wouldn't bother.

alliennas

28th September 2006, 14:52

Gentlefoot

28th September 2006, 14:59

No wonder he's still a demo racer. If I've read the elitist anti-demo racer crap on these forums before I got the licencse, well, i simply wouldn't bother.

That fella is spamming all the threads though. We don't want nobbies like that getting licenced.

TyresHot

28th September 2006, 15:07

That fella is spamming all the threads though. We don't want nobbies like that getting licenced.<<<<<<< we = who ?

Jamexing

28th September 2006, 15:20

<<<<<<< we = who ?

Exactly the kind of attitude("by the we TyresHot was referring to") that LFS doesn't need. And I bet a lot of these "veterans" don't even know how to drive REAL cars. I'm quite a noob, aren't I?

I'm not the one spamming the threads. I'm just SICK and TIRED of licensed players picking on every demo player who bothers to post his opinion on these forums. Bet these so-called vets never heard of creating encouraging and positive atmospheres.

ramtech

28th September 2006, 15:21

+1 +2 +3 +4 :)

Gentlefoot

28th September 2006, 15:31

Exactly the kind of attitude("by the we TyresHot was referring to") that LFS doesn't need. And I bet a lot of these "veterans" don't even know how to drive REAL cars. I'm quite a noob, aren't I?

I'm not the one spamming the threads. I'm just SICK and TIRED of licensed players picking on every demo player who bothers to post his opinion on these forums. Bet these so-called vets never heard of creating encouraging and positive atmospheres.

Have a look around the other threads at some of his postings - you'll see what I mean.

And what has "And I bet a lot of these "veterans" don't even know how to drive REAL cars." got to do with anything?

btw I'm an MSA licence holder.

Jamexing

28th September 2006, 15:36

Have a look around the thread at some of his other postings - you'll see what I mean.

And what has "And I bet a lot of these "veterans" don't even know how to drive REAL cars." got to do with anything?

btw I'm an MSA licence holder.

I would LOVE a p to p race in LFS, and the fact that he's a demo racer doesn't mean that he has no right to disagree.

BTW, good on you for your MSA licnese. :)

Gentlefoot

28th September 2006, 15:38

I would LOVE a p to p race in LFS, and the fact that he's a demo racer doesn't mean that he has no right to disagree.

BTW, good on you for your MSA licnese. :)

That wasn't me that said that. I said I didn't want him getting an S2 licence because he was a spammer. Have you looked at his post history yet?

Jamexing

28th September 2006, 15:42

If he's a spammer, we could simply ignore him, not pick on him. Many spammers are simply attention seekers seeking a response from the more serious members of these forums. No need to go on the offensive at all.

A wise man once said:

"To achieve true victory is to do so without becoming the very thing which you fight against."

:)

Gentlefoot

28th September 2006, 15:45

Michael Denham

28th September 2006, 16:00

Another perfectly good thread ruined. *sigh*

Lowe

28th September 2006, 16:09

Ok we've gone off at a tangent, but hey - good idea yes?

I guess the engine can 'cope' with p2p since the drag strip is a basic point to point, just short and without any bends. Still, I guess the potential and support is there, so now we need the Devs to look a it...

Jamexing

28th September 2006, 16:18

Just make a GIANT version of the dragstrip as a starting template, add terrain features and elevation changes/corners and wallop, a good WRC tarmac style point to point race. :)

I know this is a vast oversimplifiication, but point is, it can be done.

TyresHot

28th September 2006, 16:44

i dont know what to say now i am .. ..

Michael Denham

28th September 2006, 16:45

Just make a GIANT version of the dragstrip as a starting template, add terrain features and elevation changes/corners and wallop, a good WRC tarmac style point to point race.

I know this is a vast oversimplifiication, but point is, it can be done.
Definitely. One of my favourite bits of road on the game so far is the little bit that goes back from the finish of the drag strip back to the start :) Something like that with some elevation changes and a little longer would be perfect.

TyresHot

28th September 2006, 16:47

That fella is spamming all the threads though. We don't want nobbies like that getting licenced.

:( :really: i was to buy s2 this night but i changed my opinion of buying s2.if there are guys like you there is no need to have a s2 account.now i am thinking to buy s2 later if there are nice people(i hope too much).:really:

:thumb: :nod: :shy:

sinbad

28th September 2006, 16:54

:( :really: i was to buy s2 this night but i changed my opinion of buying s2.if there are guys like you there is no need to have a s2 account.now i am thinking to buy s2 later if there are nice people(i hope too much).:really:

:thumb: :nod: :shy:

Everyone here is nice, but you have to admit, you've made an odd post or two :) Hardly spamming though. What is said in this forum has nothing to do with what people are like on the tracks either, so don't be put off.

Jamexing

28th September 2006, 16:57

:( :really: i was to buy s2 this night but i changed my opinion of buying s2.if there are guys like you there is no need to have a s2 account.now i am thinking to buy s2 later if there are nice people(i hope too much).:really: :thumb: :nod: :shy:

Now there goes another S2 license. :(

Hope you change your mind, I'm sure most of us still welcome you. Read your posts and TBH, you're not that bad. Just put more though and costructive/serious points into your posts and there's no excuse for anyone to call you a spammer. :)

TyresHot

28th September 2006, 17:04

That fella is spamming all the threads though. We don't want nobbies like that getting licenced.

Really ? look at the posts.Are you kidding with me?"there is no excuse for anyone..." are you sure ? :pillepall :pillepall :pillepall

Jamexing

28th September 2006, 17:14

Really ? look at the posts.Are you kidding with me?"there is no excuse for anyone..." are you sure ? :pillepall :pillepall :pillepall

Well, personally I don't really think you're a spammer. Some of your posts lack any real content, but an annoying spammer you are not.

Anyway, I extend my personal welcome to you for joining the LFS community. Just get a license and maybe we'll have a few good races together. :)

Gentlefoot

29th September 2006, 11:35

Really ? look at the posts.Are you kidding with me?"there is no excuse for anyone..." are you sure ? :pillepall :pillepall :pillepall

Seems as though my point has been proved buddy! lol

Rappa Z

29th September 2006, 11:51

*ignores flaming*

+10, especially since i can't get RBR to work on my computer.

Jamexing

29th September 2006, 12:01

What LFS REALLY needs is proper rallying, which ATM is utterlu non-existant. A monte carlo style tarmac rally stage would satisfy both the serious rally racers (like me) and the drifters. Problem sloved. :)

For the drift guys who absolutely insist on drift specific tracks, just give them a GIANT version of the autocross car park arena and let them setup whatever course they want. This way, everyone's happy.:)

However, I don't see all this happening in the forseeable future. :(