What Racing Wheel do you use?

[kamkorPL]

I will start :)

Logitech Driving Force Pro in 720 degrees.

edit:

Talking of pedals.. I use dfp ones as brake and gas and old gp ff pedals as clutch :)

[rich uk]

for the actual wheel i use a FF thrustmaster wheel

and for pedals i use my MS sidewinder pedals as brake accel and the thrustmaster pedals as clutch

[Fordman]

Momo for me :)

[atledreier]

DFP at whatever rotation my current car will need, and the throttle from my MSFF for clutch, again if my current car require it.

[Qurpiz]

DFP, currently with 450 degree rotation (Formulas :) )

[kamkorPL]

For DFP users who don't know. If you set your wheel to 720 degrees in wingman profiler and to 720 in lfs with steer compensation(0 or 1, probably wont matter here). You will get 720 lock for street cars, n. lock for gtr cars, n. lock for formulas etc. - Just like in game :). Dunno if it works for 900degrees.

[Jenzen]

Dfp - 360°

[Qurpiz]

For DFP users who don't know. If you set your wheel to 720 degrees in wingman profiler and to 720 in lfs with steer compensation(0 or 1, probably wont matter here). You will get 720 lock for street cars, n. lock for gtr cars, n. lock for formulas etc. - Just like in game :). Dunno if it works for 900degrees.

:nana: Didin't know that, Thanks!

[IronFly]

Logitech DFP at 900° :D
awesome to drift with RB4 LOL

[Hummer]

MOMO Racing now, but I'd still like to get a red MOMO somehow :]

[mr_x]

black MOMO does me fine

[ZerFEr]

DFP with I think 270° ... just standard :p

[DodgeRacer]

Momo Black for a steering wheel, threw the pedals away due to me fixing them 50 million times, annoying, love the wheel to much to trash so i have an old sidewinder hooked up so i can use the pedals, LFS and NR2k3 are about the only games that let me do that luckly :D

[Cropsy]

Microsoft Sidewinder (No FF), £2.20 from ebay :D

[HuckD]

Momo Red (and Track IR)

[nesrulz]

Logitech WingMan Formula GP (WithOut FF).

[danbmx_69]

Logitech WingMan Formula GP got me as well havent had it long finding it hard to drift with i can race good with it but not drift :)

[Tweaker]

Red Momo :up:

[ATHome]

DFP with 720° lock. Suitable for all cars and loads of fun

[Ryanry64]

Black Momo, couldn't find a red one... :( Still, does the job nicely

[BWX232]

DFP @

Cars that use 720 degrees of rotation:
XF GTI, XR GT, XR GT Turbo, RB4 GT, XFO Turbo, LX4, LX6, UF1000, UF GTR, XF GTR, FZ50, Raceabout..

Cars that use 540 degrees of rotation:
XR GTR, XFO GTR, FZ50 GTR

Cars that use 450 degrees of rotation:
Formula XR, Formula V8

Car that uses 270 degrees of rotation:
MRT5

Then I do this:

For whatever car you are using, chose that lock to lock in the DFP control panel..
*You can easily press SHIFT + F4 to jump out of the game while in the pits, set the Logitech control panel, and jump right back in the game.. It takes about 10 seconds time and there is no need to re-calibrate.

Say you are in the FZR- set DFP CP to 540, in game set "wheel turn" setting to 540. Keep "wheel turn compensation" to 0.00.. (always leave wheel turn compensation to 0.00 when doing it this way.
That's it. Then you get true linear steering and take advantage of the FF end stops that the DFP driver gives you. I think the FF feels better too.
http://www.lfsforum.net/showpost.php?p=886&postcount=4


Works great either way really. "Easy way, set and forget" or "The above way to get end stops through FF" Sometimes the FF stops get "stuck" a little bit though.. if you have the FF up enough though.

I have a momo racing too, and Driving force original (same as formula force GP but with more buttons). I think I am going to hook up the DFo for a clutch pedal because the pedals are better than the pedals the Momo racing has.

[Don]

DFP @ 900 degrees + MS FF pedals

but if i play RBR, i set it to 360 degrees. i once forgot to change it from 900 and there was joux verte, the track of hundreds hairpins :rolleyes2

[Linsen]

Logitech Formula Force GP. I'd like a DFP though for it's large number of buttons ;).

[BWX232]

DFP @ 900 degrees + MS FF pedals

but if i play RBR, i set it to 360 degrees. i once forgot to change it from 900 and there was joux verte, the track of hundreds hairpins :rolleyes2

Side note-

I use 540 for RBR- it's awesome!! That is what those cars really use. if you give it enough FF (full in game, 65 in Logi. CP overall... 0 spring, o damper) It is sweet. You have to set max steering lock to 792 in the setup for all the cars though.


Basically, the DFP rules in all games.

[ekze]

Black MOMO.... :D

[Levi1]

DFP 720 degrees
and old Driving Force pedals as clutch :)
Only wished the DFP braking pedal would be heavier, threshold braking while shifting down and blipping the throttle is hard with such a light pedal.

[DodgeRacer]

Black Momo, couldn't find a red one... :( Still, does the job nicely

Don't worry I had a red one and didn't quite like it as much as my black one (red one broke, they sent me black one). One you go bla...........nevermind :nana:

[Yellow]

I was wondering if everyone that uses a gaming wheel to play to please post what kind they are using, just to see who has what... :)

The one I just bought for this game is the Logitech® MOMO® Racing wheel..I haven't gotten it yet, I ordered it today with 2nd day shipping, so I am expecting it on Monday unless UPS delivers on Sunday's..

Anyway post yours thanks :)

EDIT: wierd, i just went to the tracking info and it said it will be here by the 17th!?! how messed up is that?

[Slartibartfast]

I'll get in on this.

TSW Sport, circa 1998. (Hmm... what would have prompted the move from TM?) I'm dead serious when I say it feels *exactly* like it did the day I got it. 4 or 5 sets of spec pots - TSW sent me some lever arms that they liked better than the stock ones, though I never had a problem - had one spring retainer break after 5 years, TSW replaced that - never misses a shift - a couple drops of oil every couple years - smooth as buttah.

Every once in a while I call to ask if I should upgrade to this or that. So far they've talked me out of spending money I don't need to a couple of times. They are dead honest about what it is thier products will or won't do. When they say a certain pot will last a year, they mean it.

What more can I say?

[Tweaker]

I own the red Logitech MOMO Force wheel. Too bad this wheel is discontinued, because it is a great wheel in my opinion. Some people don't care much for the pedals, but mine have held up and I always do proper 'tune ups' about every 4 or 5 months (cleaning, replace springs if needed (stiff r/c springs), etc).

It's always a good idea to make sure your wheel is in proper shape. Otherwise you'll find yourself with problems. Maintain it like an airplane so to speak.

You've got yourself a good wheel coming to your door, and you'll definitely enjoy it in LFS. I know quite a few people that own that black momo wheel and i've tried it myself. It works damn good for anyone really. :up:

[Woz]

DFP, Actlab Pro-pedals + H shifter here.

DFP is great wheel though never used the pedals so cant comment on those.

[szyszek]

DFP, Actlab Pro-pedals + H shifter here.

DFP is great wheel though never used the pedals so cant comment on those.

Indeed it is a great wheel. I have it too, but I'm forced to use the pedals. They work fine for about 6 months, after that all hell breaks loose. I'm thinking about buying Finnmotion pedals.

[gloom]

I use a Logitech MOMO Racing Force for the wheel and along with it some Microsoft Sidewinder FFB (USB) Pedals.

A great combination for an affordable price :)

[Levi1]

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=101 :p

[gloom]

*doublepost*

[WGooden]

I didn't know the ms pedals worked with the momo, I think I'll get that wheel sometime soon then :). It's annoying having to open up my momo pedals few weeks.

[Jouni Trogen]

Logitech Momo Force. 3 years old and maintenanced yearly to keep it going. I use the squash ball under my brake pedal.

[Gunn]

*merged similar topic

[(AR)Göran]

Ms Ff

[Doorman]

Oh well, here we go again. :D DFP, Frex three pedal set with SimClutch+ and Frex Hshift+ shifter

[Theafro]

it's a constant evolution ATM but i'm using a DFP @ 720 with an old sidewinder pedalset making do for the clutch, (highly recomended, clutch use that is!) although i'm planning to convert a FF joystick for shifter use and build a custom pedal box from car spares! LFS is great for messing about with your controllers so you can get them exactly as you want 'em.

If anybody asked me what wheel to go for id always recomend the DFP. seems logitech are still having pedal life issues tho', hence i'm planning ahead and building my pedals while they still work!

[Dodii]

Logitech MOMO racing :)

My Friend would buy DFP :nod:

[travbrad]

I just got my DFP 4 days ago for $109US with shipping :) I'm really enjoying it so far. I'm still experimenting with which degrees of rotation i prefer though, and i auto-clutch, because using a button as a clutch would be even harder than using a real clutch IMO (esp in the middle of turns when you're in the middle of turning the wheel)

[marcione]

momo force
brd speed7

[spyshagg]

Thrustmaster Force Feedback GT Racing Wheel
http://img.ferra.ru/pubimages/46274.jpg (http://img.ferra.ru/pubimages/46274.jpg)
http://img.ferra.ru/pubimages/46275.jpg
http://jim.pp.ru/helps/hard/images/wheel-thrustmaster_08_.jpg

dont be fooled by the looks!
the wheel is made of Soft Rubber (feels so good).
ForceFeed back is strong, well, too strong (i play at 15% only, 100% it's nuts!)
The pedals, well... plastic :\
the brakes pedal is harder to push and the Accelerator is soft (just like my car pedals)

270º rotation only :\
i never tried a 900º wheel, so i dont know what i am loosing...

what Wheel you guys recomend? DFP ?

[AJS]

Thrustmaster F1 FFB and DFP.

I had to fix the pedals of the Thrustmaster but the wheel itself is of really good quality. Especially the FFB. If i´ll ever get one of those expensive 3 pedal sets or build one myself i´ll use the wheel again. Great for F1 and GT cars.

I got the DFP a few days ago and the 900 ° mode is sooo much fun. The wheel feels and looks great :)

[BWX232]

If anybody asked me what wheel to go for id always recomend the DFP. seems logitech are still having pedal life issues tho',

I got one a few months ago- it seems if you get the new Rev. B00 (that is B zero,zero) You get Metal POTS! Mine has metal pots and it is SO much better than my Momo racing wheels.. Pedals are so damn smooth.. Perfect. I beat the hell out of them and they never flinch. If you get a Rev. B00, you should have good luck. (says the rev.# on the manual's plastic bag)

[Theafro]

looks like i don't have to worry now! :) i'm still gonna make a pedal-box contraption to kick the hell out of instead of the plastic ones supplied!

[spyshagg]

the only DFP i found in logitech website is for PS2..... is that the one you guys use in the pc??

[TagForce]

the only DFP i found in logitech website is for PS2..... is that the one you guys use in the pc??


Yes, it works just fine with the new drivers... Although there may be some small problems with initial use, just search the RSC forums and the logitech forums... All the answers are there.

[spyshagg]

how much it costs? ...i cant find it in Europe :(

edit: oh nevermind.... the wheel does not have sequential gears change :\ only the gear stick....
damn it!

[geeman1]

Yeah, another DFP user here, rev. B00, wohooo!

how much it costs? ...i cant find it in Europe :(

edit: oh nevermind.... the wheel does not have sequential gears change :\ only the gear stick....
damn it!

Yes, it does have sequential gear flaps too. I bought mine from a computer store, lot of them sell them but they are hidden in console/ps2 accesories.

[spyshagg]

you mean the gear flaps are optional? they dont come in the bundle?

i ask because i did not see them in the pictures....

[TagForce]

you mean the gear flaps are optional? they dont come in the bundle?


No, they're on the back of the wheel... So there's no way to buy a wheel without the flaps... The good thing is that the flaps and the gear stick have different codes assigned, so you can use them seperately. I use the gear stick for shifting (more realistic in LFS since none of the cars have the wheel flippers), and I use the flaps for indicator lights.

One of the pros of this wheel is the number of buttons, and the software has the option of assigning Cycle commands... So I actually have a button assigned to press "F9 - F10 - F11 - F12 - F12" so I can cycle through the telemetry and pit windows without taking my hands or eyes off the game.

[spyshagg]

http://www.thenextfuture.nl/users/marco/dfp/dfp3.jpg
those are the flaps??... damn, they are weird lol

my current wheel flaps are like this:
http://jim.pp.ru/helps/hard/images/wheel-thrustmaster_08_.jpg

about the buttons i agree, they are usefull. My wheel as 14 buttons :) (including the 2 mini-joysticks in the wheel), i use the 2 joysticks with functions assigned as well...
http://img.ferra.ru/pubimages/46274.jpg

[TagForce]

Doing that to a DFP is wrong in soooo many ways :)

But yes... Those are the flaps.

The DFP has 22 buttons if you assign commands to the 8 directional switches on the hatswitch.

[colcob]

Thrustmaster Force Feedback GT Racing Wheel

http://img.ferra.ru/pubimages/46275.jpg
http://jim.pp.ru/helps/hard/images/wheel-thrustmaster_08_.jpg

dont be fooled by the looks!
the wheel is made of Soft Rubber (feels so good).
ForceFeed back is strong, well, too strong (i play at 15% only, 100% it's nuts!)
The pedals, well... plastic :\
the brakes pedal is harder to push and the Accelerator is soft (just like my car pedals)

270º rotation only :\
i never tried a 900º wheel, so i dont know what i am loosing...

what Wheel you guys recomend? DFP ?

Wow, I cant believe you've got one of those thats still going. I bought one to play GP3 with, back in god knows when. It was pretty good, although eventually the paddles broke off, and the FF got as slack as hell. So I got a black momo, which was much better, and now I've just got a DFP, which is better again.

[Theafro]

how much it costs? ...i cant find it in Europe :(

edit: oh nevermind.... the wheel does not have sequential gears change :\ only the gear stick....
damn it!

I ghot mine from www.savastore.co.uk (http://www.savastore.co.uk) for about £70 (shipped) but they might not post it to europe

[Skullman]

Sorry for asking, but I notice people use an extra pedal as a clutch...with paddle shifters - why? Wouldnt that just make you slower? Dont see the point tbh, unless you had a proper manual gearbox.

[Termi]

Me use a red Momo with extra Buttons on the top.
http://www.zekkinetta.de/forum/momopl8.JPG

Termi

[BlackSpider]

I have a 'Trust' ... thing. It came free with Midnight Club, but it's actually pretty decent. Four paddles and a gear-shift (Althought 2 of the paddles share the same code as the gear-shift :(). Peddals are plastic, but tough and durable. Foot grip, too. All for free!

[Racer Y]

I use the Logitech Black Momo. I was gonna get a DFP, but the wheel size and the button arrangement scared me off. Plus the pedal design is the same as the black MOMO. If you just HAVE to have that 700°, do you actually use it?
I actually prefer the 270° or whatever turning I have over the more "realistic"
feel the DFP has to offer.
Even though I have posted numerous times in the RSC forums about how much I can't stand the quality of logitech's pedals, I'm gonna do a 180° and praise them :)

See, after playing numerous Racing games/sims, I realized something....
Us LFSers are very demanding on our equipment. In an arcady type game,
the small loss of calibration is seldom noticed, but in LFS, if the pedals are
only giving you 98% output, it WILL cost you the race you're in.
The average Nascar player or NFSU player doesn't experience this loss due to
aids provided in game. Plus the Nascar guys just don't need the performance
levels we do :)

If you're willing to sacrifice the Warranty, there is an easy way to get at the
internal workings of the pedals and get the most performance value out of
them. Unfortunately, I have to do this about every 3 months, yet my pedal
are ALWAYS better than what they were when I first got them a couple a
years ago (lol I should be OK til November :) )

Well to be honest, what I'm getting at is there should be a sticky about pedal maintenance (not just a link to Mozno and that lamer wingteam patch)
Uhh after almost 2 years of dealing with this issue I've narrowed down the problem of my pedals to a single item. Next time I have to overhaul my pedals
I'm gonna test this theory I have.
I think the pedal problem is not in the Pot position or the play of the pedals. I think it's in the little deal that turns the pot itself. When you take the pedals apart, you'll notice that the pot turns when you're holding the pedal.
I've felt certain amount of roughness in this "turning". rough enough that it
will shift the pot around a bit and mess with efficiency when it "sticks"
In fact, if you were to take my pedals apart and a new logitech model
apart, you'd see radical differences.
I removed all the grease (dust magnets) and have the pedal shafts covered in teflon tape. I have the pot's held even more firmly in place with sponges. I use a spray cleaner for electronics to get rid of the build up in the turning parts between the shaft and the pot.
I have this silicone fluid lubricant, I use it on my guns as it only takes a little bit and it's high heat resistant. My theory is if i use this fluid in the area where the pedal shaft hooks up with the pot, I can cut my maintenance time time to once or twice a year instead of every 3 months........will let y'all know
as soon as I get the nerve to try it :)

ooops I guess I went waaaay waaay off topic. I'm sorry, but I think
there ought to be a sticky on pedal maintenance no matter what brand you use.

[Gabkicks]

DFP 720 degrees
and old Driving Force pedals as clutch :)
Only wished the DFP braking pedal would be heavier, threshold braking while shifting down and blipping the throttle is hard with such a light pedal.

same here. :) i use 540° for RBR. and 540 for the gtr class cars in lfs and GTR. 450 for formula.

[JackDaMaster]

Thrustmaster enzo ferrari FFB wheel.

[D34N0]

DFP RevB00 here.

[Bruce314]

Logitech WingMan Formula GP Red (Force Feedback)

=> I can't accuse the wheel for crashes and bad time, but rather my n00bieness and lack of skills...

[SparkyDave]

Momo Force (red)

Termi ..did you make that momo mod yourself? if not where did you buy it from ?

:)

SD.

[iceKING]

Logitech MOMO Racing Force (Black) :)

[BWX232]

DFP RevB00 here.
Oh I forgot to say- my DFP is a Rev.B00 too- great pedals!

[Termi]

Momo Force (red)

Termi ..did you make that momo mod yourself? if not where did you buy it from ?

:)

SD.

Yes, i have made it self,the Button´s are connectet with a 10 euro Gamepad in the Body of the Momo ;)

Termi

[hrtburnout]

Logitech Formula Force GP (red)

[ColeusRattus]

DFP Rev.B00 too

Way better than my old MS wheel

[Klabbe]

Logitech MOMO Racing Force combined with my old wheel the Guillemont force feedback racing wheel. I use the pedals from both the wheels, a cheap way to get clutch :)

[Misko]

Guillemot Ferrari Force Feedback Racing Wheel. Looks the same as Thrustmaster GT someone posted before except pedals are different and better than those. I can't find the pics right now.

[Warper]

One of the pros of this wheel is the number of buttons, and the software has the option of assigning Cycle commands... So I actually have a button assigned to press "F9 - F10 - F11 - F12 - F12" so I can cycle through the telemetry and pit windows without taking my hands or eyes off the game.

Thanks for the hint... using this now too with my momo. ;)

[BBO@BSR]

I'm using my (almost 5 years old) Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback Wheel :eclipseeh (USB) and pedals :)

[avih]

Microsoft Sidewinder FF USB (with the red grips). 2nd hand from ebay for $35 for about 8 months now. I like it very much and it's ALWAYS 100% calibrated without doing anything (both pedals and wheel).

great wheel imho.

lately the paddles (shifters) started to occasionally produce false clicks, but it seems i've fixed it by openning the wheel and applying some PCB cleaning spray on the microswitches.

[edited a typo]

[deggis]

Seems like PC sim fanatics are the core target group of DFP although it's made for PS2. :)

Black MOMO here. It's keeping now a weird noise when steering. Luckily I have one year left of the warranty...

[BBO@BSR]

Microsoft Sidewinder FF USB (with the red grips). .....
lately the paddles (shifters) started to occasionally produce false clicks...]
I got the original one with the grey grips but i noticed that mine is sometimes producing also false clicks (doesn't shift in the right gears). I always thought it only happends when i got to much lag on a server. Because i don't have it when playing offline. :scratchch Maybe i 'll open mine too and try your "cleaning spray trick" :)

[avih]

I got the original one with the grey grips but i noticed that mine is sometimes producing also false clicks (doesn't shift in the right gears). I always thought it only happends when i got to much lag on a server. Because i don't have it when playing offline. :scratchch Maybe i 'll open mine too and try your "cleaning spray trick" :)

check out this (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=1298) thread about the subject (sw false clicks). also, note that there IS an "input lag" issue that's somehow related to network lag. It's much less noticable in S2 than in S1 (at least for me). I haven't seen any threads on the subject here, at the new forum, but there were quite a few on the old forum at rsc.

[sigemuk]

Momo black for me and still looking for a pedal

[_--NZ--_[HUN]]

DFP (REV B00) here since yesterday... I like it very much.

[steve30x]

i use this wheel

http://www.avbtech.com/pc.htm# <-------- AVB MagTurbo Force Feedback Racing Wheel

i have a dfp ordered with almost 2 weeks. im hoping that the shop will get it soon.

[Chris_Kerry]

I use the Logitech Momo Racing (Black) bought from overclockers uk. :thumb:

[rcromero]

Logitech MOMO Racing Force (Black one)

[freeman29]

Logitech MOMO Racing

[sleepyhead]

I've had my DFP Revision B for a week and i love em. Do any of you guys have suggestions for a clutch. I don't have an older spare wheel lying around and i don't want to spend 100+. Thanks!